Tariq Nasheed: Slavery Wasn't That Bad For Black Women

[NothingButTheTruth]

Now i know that black women have been used in this same regard but were men we have to be better than that. Just because black women have habitually disgraced black men on national airwaves don't mean we should.

we have coons, but where did yall get the idea that blk women have publicly bashed/shamed blk men any more than blk men when it comes to shaming blk women

within the blk community no gender has a monopoly on coon behavior and it is counter productive to perpetuate this lie

Black women and men aren't equal though. A man ridiculing a woman is not the same as a woman ridiculing a man. The man is the king of his household. A man who's bashed by his woman is looked at as weak and lesser than by his peers. This is not the case for women. Women if anything receive sympathy.

Man and woman are not the same in status, role or anything similar. We all have our part to play, but women are being brainwashed to take on more masculine traits, in an attempt to continuously destroy our family structure. In other words, black women are getting their strings pulled by these white feminist demons and fed lies like, the black men doesn't treat them fair, when black culture has never discriminated against our women. That is the white woman's fight with her man.

Right now, we're in a cold war against a system that is trying to extinct us, and they're using these warfare tactics in an attempt to separate and destroy. They're playing to the black woman and too many of them are falling for the trap. Someone needs to tell black woman, this is not the time for you to bring up your subtle differences. We're fighting a war that is much bigger than your feelings. They need to women up and stand by their men.

 

[blackrain]

I'm indifferent to Tariq, but I'm curious as to why some of you dudes are so loyal to him. Being the typical "square ass pretentious intellect" (whatever the fuck that means) doesn't make someone the best resource on something. That's true. But not being that doesn't make you a good resource either. In what way has Tariq established himself to have a reputable amount of expertise on things he addresses? That's a serious question too. I'm not shitting on him. I honestly don't know and was curious.

I've no reason to doubt his intentions or commitment to black empowerment. Alot of the historic information he gives is the same shit I've heard prior to learning of him, along with the New stuff I find out. He fucks with all the black scholars my father put me on. Reciting and acknowledging them for others to go learn. He ain't been bout no bullshit, he speaks up for blacks, gives real contributions to black society, and I've yet to hear him steer somebody wrong. And since white supremacist hate him, that also let's me know he's on the right track.

All I see is a black forum full of coon behavior allowing the opinions of other people influence what they think of him and black empowerment in general. There's has been an innate hate for this guy prior to this bullshit thread, y'all didn't need this to start. All I can say is that if you want to give dude a chance, I highly recommend it.

I didn't know people hated him. That's news to me. I've listened to some of his stuff and I'd agree with what you say. It does seem he's sincere with his intentions and it does seem like he acts mostly as a mouthpiece for the words of others, which isn't in itself a bad thing considering he probably gives those people their due credit. So I'm not knocking and don't have problems with him. I just don't understand why some people on here are taking any criticism so personal. You can respect what someone is doing without thinking they are irrefutable or infallible.

The bold is a foreign idea to many. You must agree w/ everything a person says or else you hate them, are a coon, and want to see them taken down. Criticism and asking questions isn't allowed

 

[semi-auto-mato]

Rashidi is in Tariq's Hidden Colors series and I believe that he was strictly speaking to slave revolts in American history ....it would be interesting to hear him define what he considered a successful slave revolt however ...I can only assume that he meant success in the sense of liberating Black Americans in the regions were the revolts took place im honestly not 100 percent sure

yes he was and you remember him. like I said I hope Tariq leads you to find real historians like Rashidi. don't let hidden colors be the only time u watch a video with dude in it. he has a lot out there. you can start with Introduction To The Study Of African Classical Civilizations

introducing black intellectuals like rashidi to the masses was a primary reason the series was produced ....it says something that these individuals align themselves with Tariq but it's the Internet forum trolls that begrudge him ....yikes

Most historians are easily accessible to the public. They are professors on college campuses across the country. They don't have security outside their door. If you live in LA getting to Rashidi is nothing. don't think that because u see him working with someone that he co-signs them or agrees with them. as a historian its his job to do all he can to get info out there.

don't get mad at folks if they don't view Tariq as a scholar or educator. They have a right to question the information he is putting out there. if it is fact then it should be easily backed up. Tariq is not putting anything new out there. he is not doing any knew research or coming to any new conclusions. he just repeating stuff but he has an audience.

my guy stop ....

anyone with a modicum of integrity isn't going to align themselves with a person they fundemenatally are at odds with ....the lengths some of you niggas go to be anti is amusing ....it's ok to admit that Tariq did something positive and impactful by presenting this "old information" from these "already well know intellectuals" to the masses without the corny caveats or contrived dismissals

Listen tonight starts my fantasy league playoffs. I need Amari to step it up so I can't do this with u.

Tariq is not an historian. He is a filmmaker so it's no reason for a historian to not work with him. They trying to reach people like u. What research has tariq done? If ur a historian bring stuff to masses u need to talk archaeologist sociologist and doctors. That's the minimum u can do when talking ancient history. If he wants to talk about black women and slavery he should talk the association for black women historians. All if these people will work with him. It doesn't mean he is on their level. It doesn't mean the respect him intellectually. It means he has a platform and a audience.

Tell me something that tariq has taught u and tell how u know it be true. In others words show his work.

 

[desertrain10]

Now i know that black women have been used in this same regard but were men we have to be better than that. Just because black women have habitually disgraced black men on national airwaves don't mean we should.

we have coons, but where did yall get the idea that blk women have publicly bashed/shamed blk men any more than blk men when it comes to shaming blk women

within the blk community no gender has a monopoly on coon behavior and it is counter productive to perpetuate this lie

I don't know which gender and shit on the other more. I do know that black women supported two separate ABC specials basically bashing black men. I'm not going to say that's trumped everything that black men have done, but it was pretty bad and I don't recall black men doing anything like that.

Yes, there were Blk women who went on tv crying about how they can't find a good man in the 80's or 90's

I like many of other Blk women thought it was bad form to say the least

At the same time, based solely off the words of many popular Blk male entertainers over the last 3, 4 decades I'd assume most Blk women were hoes and gold diggers with bad attitudes if I didnt know any better

No one is blameless

Pointing fingers means shit if both genders don't own up to how they perpetuate stereotypes that only serves to reinforce white supremacy

 

[zzombie]

Now i know that black women have been used in this same regard but were men we have to be better than that. Just because black women have habitually disgraced black men on national airwaves don't mean we should.

we have coons, but where did yall get the idea that blk women have publicly bashed/shamed blk men any more than blk men when it comes to shaming blk women

within the blk community no gender has a monopoly on coon behavior and it is counter productive to perpetuate this lie

Black women and men aren't equal though. A man ridiculing a woman is not the same as a woman ridiculing a man. The man is the king of his household. A man who's bashed by his woman is looked at as weak and lesser than by his peers. This is not the case for women. Women if anything receive sympathy.

Man and woman are not the same in status, role or anything similar. We all have our part to play, but women are being brainwashed to take on more masculine traits, in an attempt to continuously destroy our family structure. In other words, black women are getting their strings pulled by these white feminist demons and fed lies like, the black men doesn't treat them fair, when black culture has never discriminated against our women. That is the white woman's fight with her man.

Right now, we're in a cold war against a system that is trying to extinct us, and they're using these warfare tactics in an attempt to separate and destroy. They're playing to the black woman and too many of them are falling for the trap. Someone needs to tell black woman, this is not the time for you to bring up your subtle differences. We're fighting a war that is much bigger than your feelings. They need to women up and stand by their men.

You are talking to a feminist REALITY will always escape her

 

[kzzl]

I'm indifferent to Tariq, but I'm curious as to why some of you dudes are so loyal to him. Being the typical "square ass pretentious intellect" (whatever the fuck that means) doesn't make someone the best resource on something. That's true. But not being that doesn't make you a good resource either. In what way has Tariq established himself to have a reputable amount of expertise on things he addresses? That's a serious question too. I'm not shitting on him. I honestly don't know and was curious.

I've no reason to doubt his intentions or commitment to black empowerment. Alot of the historic information he gives is the same shit I've heard prior to learning of him, along with the New stuff I find out. He fucks with all the black scholars my father put me on. Reciting and acknowledging them for others to go learn. He ain't been bout no bullshit, he speaks up for blacks, gives real contributions to black society, and I've yet to hear him steer somebody wrong. And since white supremacist hate him, that also let's me know he's on the right track.

All I see is a black forum full of coon behavior allowing the opinions of other people influence what they think of him and black empowerment in general. There's has been an innate hate for this guy prior to this bullshit thread, y'all didn't need this to start. All I can say is that if you want to give dude a chance, I highly recommend it.

I didn't know people hated him. That's news to me. I've listened to some of his stuff and I'd agree with what you say. It does seem he's sincere with his intentions and it does seem like he acts mostly as a mouthpiece for the words of others, which isn't in itself a bad thing considering he probably gives those people their due credit. So I'm not knocking and don't have problems with him. I just don't understand why some people on here are taking any criticism so personal. You can respect what someone is doing without thinking they are irrefutable or infallible.

This aint about him being above anything. For one, people took what he said made some bullshit out of it. Thats not critiqing, that's an act of sabotage. Second, if he's that wrong, about anything, people would have posted evidence showing so. And if they was really bout it, they would have tweeted, emailed, or attempted to make contact to challenge his claim.

Instead we get a bunch people using this opportunity to express unwarranted disdain and rumors for a black man that has done nothing but made real contributions. Whether it be historic info, surviving white supremacy, or game on finding the right mate. It would be a shame for folks to miss out on the efforts of people really putting out work because some crab thinking niggas want to shame a brother, or sister, cause they feelings hurt.

 

[LordZuko]

Now i know that black women have been used in this same regard but were men we have to be better than that. Just because black women have habitually disgraced black men on national airwaves don't mean we should.

we have coons, but where did yall get the idea that blk women have publicly bashed/shamed blk men any more than blk men when it comes to shaming blk women

within the blk community no gender has a monopoly on coon behavior and it is counter productive to perpetuate this lie

I don't know which gender and shit on the other more. I do know that black women supported two separate ABC specials basically bashing black men. I'm not going to say that's trumped everything that black men have done, but it was pretty bad and I don't recall black men doing anything like that.

Yes, there were Blk women who went on tv crying about how they can't find a good man in the 80's or 90's

I like many of other Blk women thought it was bad form to say the least

At the same time, based solely off the words of many popular Blk male entertainers over the last 3, 4 decades I'd assume most Blk women were hoes and gold diggers with bad attitudes if I didnt know any better

No one is blameless

Pointing fingers means shit if both genders don't own up to how they perpetuate stereotypes that only serves to reinforce white supremacy

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I'm indifferent to Tariq, but I'm curious as to why some of you dudes are so loyal to him. Being the typical "square ass pretentious intellect" (whatever the fuck that means) doesn't make someone the best resource on something. That's true. But not being that doesn't make you a good resource either. In what way has Tariq established himself to have a reputable amount of expertise on things he addresses? That's a serious question too. I'm not shitting on him. I honestly don't know and was curious.

I've no reason to doubt his intentions or commitment to black empowerment. Alot of the historic information he gives is the same shit I've heard prior to learning of him, along with the New stuff I find out. He fucks with all the black scholars my father put me on. Reciting and acknowledging them for others to go learn. He ain't been bout no bullshit, he speaks up for blacks, gives real contributions to black society, and I've yet to hear him steer somebody wrong. And since white supremacist hate him, that also let's me know he's on the right track.

All I see is a black forum full of coon behavior allowing the opinions of other people influence what they think of him and black empowerment in general. There's has been an innate hate for this guy prior to this bullshit thread, y'all didn't need this to start. All I can say is that if you want to give dude a chance, I highly recommend it.

I didn't know people hated him. That's news to me. I've listened to some of his stuff and I'd agree with what you say. It does seem he's sincere with his intentions and it does seem like he acts mostly as a mouthpiece for the words of others, which isn't in itself a bad thing considering he probably gives those people their due credit. So I'm not knocking and don't have problems with him. I just don't understand why some people on here are taking any criticism so personal. You can respect what someone is doing without thinking they are irrefutable or infallible.

This aint about him being above anything. For one, people took what he said made some bullshit out of it. Thats not critiqing, that's an act of sabotage. Second, if he's that wrong, about anything, people would have posted evidence showing so. And if they was really bout it, they would have tweeted, emailed, or attempted to make contact to challenge his claim.

Instead we get a bunch people using this opportunity to express unwarranted disdain and rumors for a black man that has done nothing but made real contributions. Whether it be historic info, surviving white supremacy, or game on finding the right mate. It would be a shame for folks to miss out on the efforts of people really putting out work because some crab thinking niggas want to shame a brother, or sister, cause they feelings hurt.

I feel what you saying, but some of these dudes are in here act like dude can't be criticized. Niggas was really coming at me just because I said I didn't like the way info was presented in Hidden Colors. I get what you're saying and respect that, but let's be real, the IC is never that civil on either side of an issue, no matter what the issue is.

 

[desertrain10]

@JDSTAYWITIT

Hey bew

Ok really what he doing is pushing the tired narrative that Blk women are/were more likely to allign themselves with white men/white supremacy than Blk men. Mainly because Blk women have not had it as bad as Blk men

Everyone is free to have an opinion, cool. I just question how he arrived at that conclusion since most historical record does not support his thesis.

Yes, the experiences of a house slave were different than those of a field slave...same as the experiences/plight of Blk men and women differ...but to suggest Blk women haven't had it "too bad" is different...and again historically inaccurate

Most importantly slave women had no agency so I fail to really see how their supposed mentality translates to contemporary blk women

In the past he has also suggested a contemporary negro bed wench would be a blk woman who, through her feminism, her success, and/or her dating options, challenges the institution of black patriarchy. Which is a false equivalency

Challenging blk patriarchy is and was never the same as actively working to uphold white supremacy

That said, to say for every Harriet Tubman there are thousands of supa heads is not really controversial but rather a roundabout way of saying the majority of Blk women ain't shit....keep it real

To conclude, misandary and feminism are not one and the same. So for some one to come to the conclusion that I am trying to vilify men with no other evidence than me identifying myself as a feminism would be corny. Same as me saying dude is a coon or misogynist based on him solely referring to a lone Blk woman as a "vindictive bitch". But time and time again he has made these sweeping generalizations largely at the expense of Blk women. It puzzles me how anyone can view him as being this misunderstood freedom fighter. All the criticisms thrown his way are well deserved

 

[5th Letter]

I'm indifferent to Tariq, but I'm curious as to why some of you dudes are so loyal to him. Being the typical "square ass pretentious intellect" (whatever the fuck that means) doesn't make someone the best resource on something. That's true. But not being that doesn't make you a good resource either. In what way has Tariq established himself to have a reputable amount of expertise on things he addresses? That's a serious question too. I'm not shitting on him. I honestly don't know and was curious.

I've no reason to doubt his intentions or commitment to black empowerment. Alot of the historic information he gives is the same shit I've heard prior to learning of him, along with the New stuff I find out. He fucks with all the black scholars my father put me on. Reciting and acknowledging them for others to go learn. He ain't been bout no bullshit, he speaks up for blacks, gives real contributions to black society, and I've yet to hear him steer somebody wrong. And since white supremacist hate him, that also let's me know he's on the right track.

All I see is a black forum full of coon behavior allowing the opinions of other people influence what they think of him and black empowerment in general. There's has been an innate hate for this guy prior to this bullshit thread, y'all didn't need this to start. All I can say is that if you want to give dude a chance, I highly recommend it.

I didn't know people hated him. That's news to me. I've listened to some of his stuff and I'd agree with what you say. It does seem he's sincere with his intentions and it does seem like he acts mostly as a mouthpiece for the words of others, which isn't in itself a bad thing considering he probably gives those people their due credit. So I'm not knocking and don't have problems with him. I just don't understand why some people on here are taking any criticism so personal. You can respect what someone is doing without thinking they are irrefutable or infallible.

This aint about him being above anything. For one, people took what he said made some bullshit out of it. Thats not critiqing, that's an act of sabotage. Second, if he's that wrong, about anything, people would have posted evidence showing so. And if they was really bout it, they would have tweeted, emailed, or attempted to make contact to challenge his claim.

Instead we get a bunch people using this opportunity to express unwarranted disdain and rumors for a black man that has done nothing but made real contributions. Whether it be historic info, surviving white supremacy, or game on finding the right mate. It would be a shame for folks to miss out on the efforts of people really putting out work because some crab thinking niggas want to shame a brother, or sister, cause they feelings hurt.

I feel what you saying, but some of these dudes are in here act like dude can't be criticized. Niggas was really coming at me just because I said I didn't like the way info was presented in Hidden Colors. I get what you're saying and respect that, but let's be real, the IC is never that civil on either side of an issue, no matter what the issue is.

No one said he's above criticism nor was that even implied. But what do you expect when someone blatantly spreads misinformation?

 

[R.D.]

I'm indifferent to Tariq, but I'm curious as to why some of you dudes are so loyal to him. Being the typical "square ass pretentious intellect" (whatever the fuck that means) doesn't make someone the best resource on something. That's true. But not being that doesn't make you a good resource either. In what way has Tariq established himself to have a reputable amount of expertise on things he addresses? That's a serious question too. I'm not shitting on him. I honestly don't know and was curious.

I've no reason to doubt his intentions or commitment to black empowerment. Alot of the historic information he gives is the same shit I've heard prior to learning of him, along with the New stuff I find out. He fucks with all the black scholars my father put me on. Reciting and acknowledging them for others to go learn. He ain't been bout no bullshit, he speaks up for blacks, gives real contributions to black society, and I've yet to hear him steer somebody wrong. And since white supremacist hate him, that also let's me know he's on the right track.

All I see is a black forum full of coon behavior allowing the opinions of other people influence what they think of him and black empowerment in general. There's has been an innate hate for this guy prior to this bullshit thread, y'all didn't need this to start. All I can say is that if you want to give dude a chance, I highly recommend it.

I didn't know people hated him. That's news to me. I've listened to some of his stuff and I'd agree with what you say. It does seem he's sincere with his intentions and it does seem like he acts mostly as a mouthpiece for the words of others, which isn't in itself a bad thing considering he probably gives those people their due credit. So I'm not knocking and don't have problems with him. I just don't understand why some people on here are taking any criticism so personal. You can respect what someone is doing without thinking they are irrefutable or infallible.

The bold is a foreign idea to many. You must agree w/ everything a person says or else you hate them, are a coon, and want to see them taken down. Criticism and asking questions isn't allowed

My nigga that's exactly what you and the rest of the niggas who cosign bullshit like this are doing

The same people who made this thread and purposely missed his point to make theirs(this thread for starters) I've seen constantly critiquing niggas like him, Umar Johnson, etc.

You niggas always find something and then act like whatever you believe you found proves your point and discredits everything they've done

Nobody is above criticism but when that's all you do, there's a problem and it points to you clearly being disingenuous

This whole thread got a "umhmm girl, I told you he wasn't shit" vibe

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I'm indifferent to Tariq, but I'm curious as to why some of you dudes are so loyal to him. Being the typical "square ass pretentious intellect" (whatever the fuck that means) doesn't make someone the best resource on something. That's true. But not being that doesn't make you a good resource either. In what way has Tariq established himself to have a reputable amount of expertise on things he addresses? That's a serious question too. I'm not shitting on him. I honestly don't know and was curious.

I've no reason to doubt his intentions or commitment to black empowerment. Alot of the historic information he gives is the same shit I've heard prior to learning of him, along with the New stuff I find out. He fucks with all the black scholars my father put me on. Reciting and acknowledging them for others to go learn. He ain't been bout no bullshit, he speaks up for blacks, gives real contributions to black society, and I've yet to hear him steer somebody wrong. And since white supremacist hate him, that also let's me know he's on the right track.

All I see is a black forum full of coon behavior allowing the opinions of other people influence what they think of him and black empowerment in general. There's has been an innate hate for this guy prior to this bullshit thread, y'all didn't need this to start. All I can say is that if you want to give dude a chance, I highly recommend it.

I didn't know people hated him. That's news to me. I've listened to some of his stuff and I'd agree with what you say. It does seem he's sincere with his intentions and it does seem like he acts mostly as a mouthpiece for the words of others, which isn't in itself a bad thing considering he probably gives those people their due credit. So I'm not knocking and don't have problems with him. I just don't understand why some people on here are taking any criticism so personal. You can respect what someone is doing without thinking they are irrefutable or infallible.

This aint about him being above anything. For one, people took what he said made some bullshit out of it. Thats not critiqing, that's an act of sabotage. Second, if he's that wrong, about anything, people would have posted evidence showing so. And if they was really bout it, they would have tweeted, emailed, or attempted to make contact to challenge his claim.

Instead we get a bunch people using this opportunity to express unwarranted disdain and rumors for a black man that has done nothing but made real contributions. Whether it be historic info, surviving white supremacy, or game on finding the right mate. It would be a shame for folks to miss out on the efforts of people really putting out work because some crab thinking niggas want to shame a brother, or sister, cause they feelings hurt.

I feel what you saying, but some of these dudes are in here act like dude can't be criticized. Niggas was really coming at me just because I said I didn't like the way info was presented in Hidden Colors. I get what you're saying and respect that, but let's be real, the IC is never that civil on either side of an issue, no matter what the issue is.

No one said he's above criticism nor was that even implied. But what do you expect when someone blatantly spreads misinformation?

Who said you said or implied he was above criticism? You don't have to say anything. If cats come in here expressing concerns with something he said or they believe he said, and you dudes go on the attack like niggas are insulting your mothers, that says it all.

And what misinformation am I spreading? Just because you silly niggas keep saying something over and over again doesn't make it true. Why don't try actually formulating an argument instead of making personal attacks and saying stupid shit. I suspect you can't do that though which is why you do what you do.

 

[R.D.]

I'm indifferent to Tariq, but I'm curious as to why some of you dudes are so loyal to him. Being the typical "square ass pretentious intellect" (whatever the fuck that means) doesn't make someone the best resource on something. That's true. But not being that doesn't make you a good resource either. In what way has Tariq established himself to have a reputable amount of expertise on things he addresses? That's a serious question too. I'm not shitting on him. I honestly don't know and was curious.

I've no reason to doubt his intentions or commitment to black empowerment. Alot of the historic information he gives is the same shit I've heard prior to learning of him, along with the New stuff I find out. He fucks with all the black scholars my father put me on. Reciting and acknowledging them for others to go learn. He ain't been bout no bullshit, he speaks up for blacks, gives real contributions to black society, and I've yet to hear him steer somebody wrong. And since white supremacist hate him, that also let's me know he's on the right track.

All I see is a black forum full of coon behavior allowing the opinions of other people influence what they think of him and black empowerment in general. There's has been an innate hate for this guy prior to this bullshit thread, y'all didn't need this to start. All I can say is that if you want to give dude a chance, I highly recommend it.

I didn't know people hated him. That's news to me. I've listened to some of his stuff and I'd agree with what you say. It does seem he's sincere with his intentions and it does seem like he acts mostly as a mouthpiece for the words of others, which isn't in itself a bad thing considering he probably gives those people their due credit. So I'm not knocking and don't have problems with him. I just don't understand why some people on here are taking any criticism so personal. You can respect what someone is doing without thinking they are irrefutable or infallible.

This aint about him being above anything. For one, people took what he said made some bullshit out of it. Thats not critiqing, that's an act of sabotage. Second, if he's that wrong, about anything, people would have posted evidence showing so. And if they was really bout it, they would have tweeted, emailed, or attempted to make contact to challenge his claim.

Instead we get a bunch people using this opportunity to express unwarranted disdain and rumors for a black man that has done nothing but made real contributions. Whether it be historic info, surviving white supremacy, or game on finding the right mate. It would be a shame for folks to miss out on the efforts of people really putting out work because some crab thinking niggas want to shame a brother, or sister, cause they feelings hurt.

I feel what you saying, but some of these dudes are in here act like dude can't be criticized. Niggas was really coming at me just because I said I didn't like the way info was presented in Hidden Colors. I get what you're saying and respect that, but let's be real, the IC is never that civil on either side of an issue, no matter what the issue is.

And foh nigga, that wasn't what you said

That's another thing, when you wrong, just own it

You said the shit wasn't accurate or some other bullshit and that the information was provided w/o sources

Nigga you on the internet and they giving you times, names, places and you talking about sources. Four movies full of scholars and historians giving info and you talking about sources. You watched half of one movie and criticized the whole series. How can you not see the issue with that. Say you didn't watch so you have no opinion cause you can't but to write two paragraphs of criticism after watching an hour and a half of maybe 9 hours worth of material

 

[5th Letter]

I'm indifferent to Tariq, but I'm curious as to why some of you dudes are so loyal to him. Being the typical "square ass pretentious intellect" (whatever the fuck that means) doesn't make someone the best resource on something. That's true. But not being that doesn't make you a good resource either. In what way has Tariq established himself to have a reputable amount of expertise on things he addresses? That's a serious question too. I'm not shitting on him. I honestly don't know and was curious.

I've no reason to doubt his intentions or commitment to black empowerment. Alot of the historic information he gives is the same shit I've heard prior to learning of him, along with the New stuff I find out. He fucks with all the black scholars my father put me on. Reciting and acknowledging them for others to go learn. He ain't been bout no bullshit, he speaks up for blacks, gives real contributions to black society, and I've yet to hear him steer somebody wrong. And since white supremacist hate him, that also let's me know he's on the right track.

All I see is a black forum full of coon behavior allowing the opinions of other people influence what they think of him and black empowerment in general. There's has been an innate hate for this guy prior to this bullshit thread, y'all didn't need this to start. All I can say is that if you want to give dude a chance, I highly recommend it.

I didn't know people hated him. That's news to me. I've listened to some of his stuff and I'd agree with what you say. It does seem he's sincere with his intentions and it does seem like he acts mostly as a mouthpiece for the words of others, which isn't in itself a bad thing considering he probably gives those people their due credit. So I'm not knocking and don't have problems with him. I just don't understand why some people on here are taking any criticism so personal. You can respect what someone is doing without thinking they are irrefutable or infallible.

This aint about him being above anything. For one, people took what he said made some bullshit out of it. Thats not critiqing, that's an act of sabotage. Second, if he's that wrong, about anything, people would have posted evidence showing so. And if they was really bout it, they would have tweeted, emailed, or attempted to make contact to challenge his claim.

Instead we get a bunch people using this opportunity to express unwarranted disdain and rumors for a black man that has done nothing but made real contributions. Whether it be historic info, surviving white supremacy, or game on finding the right mate. It would be a shame for folks to miss out on the efforts of people really putting out work because some crab thinking niggas want to shame a brother, or sister, cause they feelings hurt.

I feel what you saying, but some of these dudes are in here act like dude can't be criticized. Niggas was really coming at me just because I said I didn't like the way info was presented in Hidden Colors. I get what you're saying and respect that, but let's be real, the IC is never that civil on either side of an issue, no matter what the issue is.

That's what you said. I'm responding to the bold. As for the part about misinformation I'm talking about this thread as a whole.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

And foh nigga, that wasn't what you said

That's another thing, when you wrong, just own it

You said the shit wasn't accurate or some other bullshit and that the information was provided w/o sources

Nigga you on the internet and they giving you times, names, places and you talking about sources. Four movies full of scholars and historians giving info and you talking about sources. You watched half of one movie and criticized the whole series. How can you not see the issue with that. Say you didn't watch so you have no opinion cause you can't but to write two paragraphs of criticism after watching an hour and a half of maybe 9 hours worth of material

I didn't say the shit wasn't accurate. You niggas need to either read, learn to read, or stop responding my messages. But stop quoting me and then saying shit that I never said. I said I watched half of the first Hidden Colors and couldn't get into it because there was no sourcing or proof given for most of the claims made. That's a fact. I said on more than one occasion that I'm not knocking the series or saying that the information was false. I just prefer documentaries that are a little more rigorous about supporting the claims made.

That's all, and you niggas are throwing hissy fits over it like some bitches. That's the shit that I'm talking about. Why does it hurt you so bad that someone didn't like the shit as much as you did. Why do I have to watch a whole series of something if I didn't like the style of the first one? Did the people the project change? Is Hidden Colors the only fucking resource for knowledge about black history, culture, and issues? Am I telling people not to watch because it's bad? The answer to all those questions is no. And I didn't write two paragraphs of criticism. I gave one criticism, and you silly niggas came at me like I was making shit up, so I gave examples from the actual documentary and you ignored those and started attacking me. That's so hoe ass shit.

And yes, scholars and historians need to give sources too. They aren't giving first hand accounts of anything. They are passing on knowledge they gained from their own research. Have you niggas never written a fucking research paper before. It doesn't matter if you have 4 PhDs and 100 years of experience, you still source your shit and provide a basis for claims you make especially when you're making claims like "The first samuari was black," "Arabic is an African language," and "a black man was the first to map out the Americas." I can't for the life of me understand why you're making it seem like I'm asking for something crazy when it's actually the standard for academic presentations of any kind papers, documentaries, whatever.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

That's what you said. I'm responding to the bold. As for the part about misinformation I'm talking about this thread as a whole.

Yes, some of you are acting like he can't be criticized. I don't know if he said what the TC claimed or not, but claiming people are just trying to tear him down simply because they express disagreement with what they believe he said is an example of that.

And just look right above your post. This nigga @R.D. is still bitching for not other reason but because I said I couldn't get into Hidden Colors because of lack of sourcing. You really telling me, that I'm out of line to say what I said when you have multiple people trying to go to war with me over some trivial shit like that? If the dude is doing positive things for blacks, and ya'll want to show him love or defend him, cool. I can respect that, but a few of you niggas need to get off his nuts because these reactions are out of control.

 

[R.D.]

Word

 

[5th Letter]

That's what you said. I'm responding to the bold. As for the part about misinformation I'm talking about this thread as a whole.

Yes, some of you are acting like he can't be criticized. I don't know if he said what the TC claimed or not, but claiming people are just trying to tear him down simply because they express disagreement with what they believe he said is an example of that.

And just look right above your post. This nigga @R.D. is still bitching for not other reason but because I said I couldn't get into Hidden Colors because of lack of sourcing. You really telling me, that I'm out of line to say what I said when you have multiple people trying to go to war with me over some trivial shit like that? If the dude is doing positive things for blacks, and ya'll want to show him love or defend him, cool. I can respect that, but a few of you niggas need to get off his nuts because these reactions are out of control.

Again you or anybody can disagree with what he says but when people make click bait threads like this what would you expect? When you claim you only seen half of something (or 1/4 of something) and saying there were "no sources" that can't be taken serious.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

That's what you said. I'm responding to the bold. As for the part about misinformation I'm talking about this thread as a whole.

Yes, some of you are acting like he can't be criticized. I don't know if he said what the TC claimed or not, but claiming people are just trying to tear him down simply because they express disagreement with what they believe he said is an example of that.

And just look right above your post. This nigga @R.D. is still bitching for not other reason but because I said I couldn't get into Hidden Colors because of lack of sourcing. You really telling me, that I'm out of line to say what I said when you have multiple people trying to go to war with me over some trivial shit like that? If the dude is doing positive things for blacks, and ya'll want to show him love or defend him, cool. I can respect that, but a few of you niggas need to get off his nuts because these reactions are out of control.

Again you or anybody can disagree with what he says but when people make click bait threads like this what would you expect? When you claim you only seen half of something (or 1/4 of something) and saying there were "no sources" that can't be taken serious.

What about what I said cannot be taken serious. I didn't say there was no sourcing in it. I said I watch half and there was was no sourcing in what I saw so I couldn't get into it. And I watched the rest yesterday in response to this topic, and it didn't change. In fact, it got worse because they transitioned from discussing things that could actually be fact checked to promoting afrocentric theory and speculation (e.g. ADD/ADHD was pushed as a means of keeping black children down). That kind of stuff doesn't interest me as much as the historical and cultural discussions and revelations. So again, me not caring for the documentary is just a matter of taste. I never said it was bad or false or any of the other shit these niggas are saying. I just said many of the claims made weren't well sourced or supported in the documentary and that turned me off.

If you want an example of something more like what interests me, check out Henry Louis Gates' Black in the Americas series. They drop a lot of historical knowledge there, but he isn't just pulling out claims and expecting the viewer to take his word for it. He's traveling to places, speaking to the people in the area, pulling out the original documentation, showing the evidence supporting the claims first hand. Those are the types of documentaries I like. It's just a matter of personal preference. I didn't need to see the full Hidden Colors series to know it wasn't going to be that. It was obvious in the first 10 minutes.

 

[AP21]

Ive read Booker T Washington, read Fred Douglass, read Harriet Jacobs...three slave narratives from REAL slaves and none of them say anything remotely positive about how women were treated as slaves.

Jacobs in particular (a female) hid in the attic to get away from slavery.

But somehow Tariq Nasheed knows how women were treated during slavery...because he was there...apparently. He certainly has no source for this shit either.

This nigga transitioned from teaching lames how to "mack hoes" to teaching lames false history. Get off your knees bruh. You the hoe.

At least research this bullshit yourself. All you Youtube University niggas are the worst.

~reads Youtube University niggas~