Tariq Nasheed: Slavery Wasn't That Bad For Black Women

[JDSTAYWITIT]

I'm indifferent to Tariq, but I'm curious as to why some of you dudes are so loyal to him. Being the typical "square ass pretentious intellect" (whatever the fuck that means) doesn't make someone the best resource on something. That's true. But not being that doesn't make you a good resource either. In what way has Tariq established himself to have a reputable amount of expertise on things he addresses? That's a serious question too. I'm not shitting on him. I honestly don't know and was curious.

mhhhhmmmm these niggas devoted to that nigga Tariq guuuurrrll I don't know what they problem is ...all he gone do is use em ....I'm so tired of these niggas talking about they "mackin" oh helllll no ...not over here boo boo boy bye

 

[playmaker88]

No one is above condemnation. its funny how people pick and choose who to criticize... Then on another hand totally dismiss some other person.. because he or she is not the flavor of the month.

 

[caddo man]

I cant knock dudes hustle Especially if it is to put out info on the history of our ancestors. It all needs to be fact checked regardless of who put it out.

So I am not saying dont support the brother but remember noone is above scrutiny. It sometimes makes them a better person.

 

[playmaker88]

I'm indifferent to Tariq, but I'm curious as to why some of you dudes are so loyal to him. Being the typical "square ass pretentious intellect" (whatever the fuck that means) doesn't make someone the best resource on something. That's true. But not being that doesn't make you a good resource either. In what way has Tariq established himself to have a reputable amount of expertise on things he addresses? That's a serious question too. I'm not shitting on him. I honestly don't know and was curious.

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

Rashidi is in Tariq's Hidden Colors series and I believe that he was strictly speaking to slave revolts in American history ....it would be interesting to hear him define what he considered a successful slave revolt however ...I can only assume that he meant success in the sense of liberating Black Americans in the regions were the revolts took place im honestly not 100 percent sure

Hold on my dude. You took shots at me for questioning claims made in the shit, but you yourself don't even know how true some of the claims made are? Come on, man.

The obtusity of this comment is mind numbing ...

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Rashidi is in Tariq's Hidden Colors series and I believe that he was strictly speaking to slave revolts in American history ....it would be interesting to hear him define what he considered a successful slave revolt however ...I can only assume that he meant success in the sense of liberating Black Americans in the regions were the revolts took place im honestly not 100 percent sure

Hold on my dude. You took shots at me for questioning claims made in the shit, but you yourself don't even know how true some of the claims made are? Come on, man.

The obtusity of this comment is mind numbing ...

Based on some of your comments, your mind has been numb.

My original point was that I couldn't really get into Hidden Colors because there was no sourcing or attempts to support the claims made. So it just seemed like they were pulling claims out of the air. And if I wanted to go and verify those claims, gain a better understanding, or simply learn more about the subject, I wouldn't be able to outside of plugging some shit in Google and hoping for the best.

You acted like I was wrong for that stance, but then turn around and give an example of a claim made in the documentary that you can't fully explain and you admit you don't fully understand. Do you not see how that supports my stance that sourcing is important when making such claims?

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

Rashidi is in Tariq's Hidden Colors series and I believe that he was strictly speaking to slave revolts in American history ....it would be interesting to hear him define what he considered a successful slave revolt however ...I can only assume that he meant success in the sense of liberating Black Americans in the regions were the revolts took place im honestly not 100 percent sure

yes he was and you remember him. like I said I hope Tariq leads you to find real historians like Rashidi. don't let hidden colors be the only time u watch a video with dude in it. he has a lot out there. you can start with Introduction To The Study Of African Classical Civilizations

introducing black intellectuals like rashidi to the masses was a primary reason the series was produced ....it says something that these individuals align themselves with Tariq but it's the Internet forum trolls that begrudge him ....yikes

 

[playmaker88]

He right.

Black women were having CONSENSUAL sex with white men...of course some got raped but this fact is often overlooked. Black men couldn't get down wit women like that....this whole black male white woman thing is new in America....Mixed race of people were always the offspring of white men and black women.

Black women pretty much ran the show over black men just like it is now....the white patriarch has giving black women control over the black family just like it was in slavery.

If folks think enslaved African women had it tougher than enslaved African men then you need to hit those history books and slave movies that y'all love to hate and check that shit out.

Black men have always been the target.

not worth a response.

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

I'm indifferent to Tariq, but I'm curious as to why some of you dudes are so loyal to him. Being the typical "square ass pretentious intellect" (whatever the fuck that means) doesn't make someone the best resource on something. That's true. But not being that doesn't make you a good resource either. In what way has Tariq established himself to have a reputable amount of expertise on things he addresses? That's a serious question too. I'm not shitting on him.I honestly don't know and was curious.

Says the negro who just two pages prior claimed to possibly be "too intellectual to get into hidden colors" .... disregarding the multiple scholars phds and individuals with years of field study who comprise the overwhelming bulk of content being disbursed in the series ..

This shit a mess on here

Is that what I really said? Really? I think some of ya'll niggas just have inferiority complexes and legitimate inferiority. Dr. Umar Johnson has a PhD in psychology or something like that,

so that means he knows everything about Asian History and we should all just accept what he says without questioning the basis behind his claims huh?[/quote]

What a pathetic straw man

If you think expecting claims to be sourced or backed by some reasonable proof is being too intellectual, I don't know what to tell you other than this guy I work with said the most valuable substance on the planet is silicon dioxide. He has a PhD in emergency management so he knows what he's talking about. I've got a ton of the stuff and I'll give it to you for a good price since you're such a good and knowledgeable guy. What's up? You down?

Secondly you've already established and admitted to not having a foundation to speak intelligently on the work from Tariq or the people associated with his work so to take the position that anyone is claiming what you're stating in the quote above is not only blatantly disingenuous it's also a sign that you're the type of time wasting negro detrimental to any kind of productive conversation .....goodspeed nigga

 

[LordZuko]

No matter if it's true or not it's reckless for a black man to make that statement about black women.

No matter what beef black men have with black women we shouldn't make public statements that can be misconstrued interpreted or read as disparaging towards his own. Such matters should be discussed only in private circles. Definitely not for white consumption. It makes him like a clown and all of us look like clowns.

But speaking in generalities. No one is your hero. You can only judge people by a body of work and when you look at that body of work it's neither white or black it's gray. Great moments bad moments.

When someone offers or is invited to speak publicly you have to consider and ask to whose benefit is it that this person is being given this platform. We already know that white people are not up for giving a platform to a black man that is going to say some profound shit. That didn't serve them well. So if white purple are putting tariq up its only because they see a flaw to exploit. Tariqs flaw could be making statements to a white audience that damages black people.

Now i know that black women have been used in this same regard but were men we have to be better than that. Just because black women have habitually disgraced black men on national airwaves don't mean we should.

 

[desertrain10]

Now i know that black women have been used in this same regard but were men we have to be better than that. Just because black women have habitually disgraced black men on national airwaves don't mean we should.

we have coons, but where did yall get the idea that blk women have publicly bashed/shamed blk men any more than blk men when it comes to shaming blk women

within the blk community no gender has a monopoly on coon behavior and it is counter productive to perpetuate this lie

 

[semi-auto-mato]

Rashidi is in Tariq's Hidden Colors series and I believe that he was strictly speaking to slave revolts in American history ....it would be interesting to hear him define what he considered a successful slave revolt however ...I can only assume that he meant success in the sense of liberating Black Americans in the regions were the revolts took place im honestly not 100 percent sure

yes he was and you remember him. like I said I hope Tariq leads you to find real historians like Rashidi. don't let hidden colors be the only time u watch a video with dude in it. he has a lot out there. you can start with Introduction To The Study Of African Classical Civilizations

introducing black intellectuals like rashidi to the masses was a primary reason the series was produced ....it says something that these individuals align themselves with Tariq but it's the Internet forum trolls that begrudge him ....yikes

Most historians are easily accessible to the public. They are professors on college campuses across the country. They don't have security outside their door. If you live in LA getting to Rashidi is nothing. don't think that because u see him working with someone that he co-signs them or agrees with them. as a historian its his job to do all he can to get info out there.

don't get mad at folks if they don't view Tariq as a scholar or educator. They have a right to question the information he is putting out there. if it is fact then it should be easily backed up. Tariq is not putting anything new out there. he is not doing any knew research or coming to any new conclusions. he just repeating stuff but he has an audience.

 

[desertrain10]

Now i know that black women have been used in this same regard but were men we have to be better than that. Just because black women have habitually disgraced black men on national airwaves don't mean we should.

we have coons, but where did yall get the idea that blk women have publicly bashed/shamed blk men any more than blk men when it comes to shaming blk women

within the blk community no gender has a monopoly on coon behavior and it is counter productive to perpetuate this lie

Nigga u must been under a rock...black men been getting shitted on publicly by black women for the last 30yrs...now that black men have waken up to black womens behavior and speaking on it it's a problem.

my point was blk men are/have been just as guilty ....that is of publicly shitting on blk women....

 

[StoneColdMikey]

Sometimes I think I'm on stormfront with the shit you niggas say

 

[LordZuko]

Now i know that black women have been used in this same regard but were men we have to be better than that. Just because black women have habitually disgraced black men on national airwaves don't mean we should.

we have coons, but where did yall get the idea that blk women have publicly bashed/shamed blk men any more than blk men when it comes to shaming blk women

within the blk community no gender has a monopoly on coon behavior and it is counter productive to perpetuate this lie

Through out the 80s and 90s black women were going on oprah donahue and various news outlets bemoaning how they have all this education and high positions but are single because black men aren't on their level. These same women were low-key not so low-key trying to get the attentions of other men of other races including white men. That's why these women started pushing multiculturalism over black power.

 

[jono]

Ive read Booker T Washington, read Fred Douglass, read Harriet Jacobs...three slave narratives from REAL slaves and none of them say anything remotely positive about how women were treated as slaves.

Jacobs in particular (a female) hid in the attic to get away from slavery.

But somehow Tariq Nasheed knows how women were treated during slavery...because he was there...apparently. He certainly has no source for this shit either.

This nigga transitioned from teaching lames how to "mack hoes" to teaching lames false history. Get off your knees bruh. You the hoe.

At least research this bullshit yourself. All you Youtube University niggas are the worst.

 

[Plutarch]

"Slavery wasn't that bad for black women"? Hmm, I don't think I'm understanding the joke here.

 

[R.D.]

Sometimes I think I'm on stormfront with the shit you niggas say

Nigga after that shit you said, take a break

I legit have yet to see you make a reasonable argument ever but stay doing this girly sublim shit

Btw still haven't watched the video cause idc what he said

 

[not_osirus_jenkins]

Now i know that black women have been used in this same regard but were men we have to be better than that. Just because black women have habitually disgraced black men on national airwaves don't mean we should.

we have coons, but where did yall get the idea that blk women have publicly bashed/shamed blk men any more than blk men when it comes to shaming blk women

within the blk community no gender has a monopoly on coon behavior and it is counter productive to perpetuate this lie

Nigga u must been under a rock...black men been getting shitted on publicly by black women for the last 30yrs...now that black men have waken up to black womens behavior and speaking on it it's a problem.

my point was blk men are/have been just as guilty ....that is of publicly shitting on blk women....

Just as guilty means "equally" which is not true since black women have had a 30yr head start shitting on black men....

Black men have been voicing their opinions about black women pluclicy only for about he last few years...

It's been movies, books, atrticles etc shitting on black men coming from black women....

Cut that shit out and just be honest.

Fucked up but I agree. And the only reason I can say that is because I grew up in a generation where shitting on females was unacceptable as a social norm. Any man that talked about a women we called him a bitch and the shit was nipped in the bud.

 

[5th Letter]

No black men shit on black women more, no black women shit on black men more. No black men ain't shit, no black women aint shit. No black black men love white women more and shit on black women, no black women love white men more and shit on black men. I mean do y'all hear y'all selves? Black men AND black women are under attack by white supremacy who cares who diss who more?