Roland Martin vs. Dr. Umar Johnson

[2stepz_ahead]

Serious question for the Umar supporters. Do you really think there is a problem with people being skeptical about his plans for the school that haven't come to fruition yet? Granted I get you might have reasons for continued support, but do you really think it's wrong for people to want to grill him on this point?

Just for clarity. I am a supporter of Black Men and Women who take up the mantle of speaking on topics that affect Blacks while offering ideas and solutions on how to repair or strengthen Black communities.

Yes, there is a problem. 1. Most if not none of yall gave a dime. 2. You weren't going to send your child there any damn ways. 3. Yall just popping yall gums because you can.

Yes, for the reasons given above. In addition if, you aint got nothing good to say STFU. Especially as it pertains to Black men and Women that aren't doing harm to the Black community.

So basically you don't believe in accountability? You believe a black man should be able to collect a bunch of money from other blacks for a cause and no one should be able to ask him about it or hold him accountable. How can you say he's not doing harm to the Black community if you're not willing to hold him accountable. People are accusing him of pimping the community by taking money from it with no intentions of following through. I'm not saying he's doing that and I don't know. I personally hope he's successful with this endeavor, but even as a supporter of him in this matter, it doesn't make sense to me to be mad at people who are asking questions relating to his legitimacy. That should be done for all people that are taking money from others, not just Umar.

I dont disagree with this mans message yesterday, today and likely wont tomorrow.

That enough for me to fuck wifh em.

People criticize Polight the same way to this day. I fuck with him too.

I will always love and respect someone that teaches me. I learned a lot watching this brother and the things i didnt learn he at least stirred up my curiosity to go teach myself.

You still fuck with Polight now that he's changed his mindset somewhat?

Any of those people who asking questions but didn't donate need to shut the fuck up. Plain and simple.

You talk like the initial funding is all he'll ever need. Even if he's successful getting the school up, he's going to need outside funding. All schools do. So what's wrong with people holding back on contributing and waiting to see what becomes of it before going all in. What world do you live in where people hear an idea and throw money at it without any evaluation? That's unwise.

Now if you're talking about people who just don't care about the school at all and are bashing for the sake of bashing, then get you. I'm just trying to understand why anyone would have a problem with people trying to assess the validity of claims. To me that seems like a common sense effort that anyone interested in something would do.

I ain't talking like shit. I was very direct with what I said. If you ain't donate then shut the fuck up cause you haven't lost one fucking penny so you should have nothing to say about what that man did or didn't do with SOMEONE else money.

Who ever said anything was wrong with holding back contributions? Post that cause I haven't said it and I haven't seen anybody else in here say that.

Trying to asses something and asking questions in an accusatory tone and manner about what was done with some donation money that you never even donated to makes that person a sucka and a hater.

Most of the people asking questions about that money that has been donated so far are asking in a manner and tone that says they feel Umar has stolen that money. If I was him I wouldn't answer anybody who is questioning me in that manner or hasn't donated.

Fuck I look answering the questions of someone who is accusing me of stealing or someone asking what I've done with some other peoples money. What that man has done with someone else's money ain't your fucking business.

Y'all niggas are hostile as he'll for no reason, but I feel you. I don't agree with because there are valid reasons for you to be a watchdog even if you don't have a personal stake. Still, if niggas are just attacking him and not coming from a productive standpoint then their opinions are invalid.

I just cuss when I talk not hostile, this not personal for me. Only time I actually watch how much I cuss is around little kids, my granny & mother.

I don't have an issue with a person being a watchdog either. It's just that you can see and feel that some of the people questioning him want him to fail at building that school or want to him to have done something fucked up with that money. It just feels like some are dreaming, hoping and wishing for that "I told you he was a fraud" moment. If he is a fraud than let it happen but to push for it and sow those seeds in other folks mind is just wrong IMO.

If a person is digging his idea for the school but uncomfortable with his reaction to some people questions regarding the money and want to hold off on donating. I have absolutely no problem with that. Its a sound move. But I do have a problem with those who haven't donated talking shit and attacking him though.

I don't why these simple ideas allude folks. These are my sentiments as well.

I will also add that. I personally don't care whether or not Umar builds the school. If, he does I will do my best to support his efforts. I just know from the first time I saw Umar in an interview speaking on the education system and the systematic racism, drugging, and bias that our Young Black boys and Girls face on a daily I wanted to hear more. Seeing my son and other Black boys who come from two parent, middle and upper class homes forced into boxes that suppress their warrior spirit and freedom of expression to be unapologetically Black, I identified with his analysis. So, for me his message is sound as I not only have lived, but have seen throughout my past and present travels what Umar speaks about.

So if he doesn't build the school and doesnt use the money he's collected for building the school but instead just keeps it you see nothing wrong with that? That's the same as th3 church never ending "building fund" collected every Sunday while don't shit in the church ever get fixed.

i talked about this once..

they got people in the church volunteering for the church to do things.....

so where the building fund go? all the maintenance is free.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

what yall think?

 

[Mister B.]

@Max, can we get a link to that editorial?

 

[TDUB1]

Umar is a charlatan.....

A lot of people don't care about his credentials and suggest that it doesn't matter....

However, it does matter, especially if you call yourself a Dr....

The Root searched every level of Johnson’s education but could find no proof that he holds a doctorate in psychology. But what started off as simple educational research has turned into a mystery.

I do not think that Interracial marriage is a problem in black communities.....

To shit on the work of people in the struggle because their choice of mate is ridiculous.....

And it overshadows any good points that he may otherwise make....

THE ROOT ISNT OWNED BY BLACKS THOUGH SMH CANT TRUST THEM

 

[Mister B.]

And VSB once again gives the perfect reason why UJ isn't to be taken seriously:

Very Smart Brothas

 

[bambu]

Umar is a charlatan.....

A lot of people don't care about his credentials and suggest that it doesn't matter....

However, it does matter, especially if you call yourself a Dr....

The Root searched every level of Johnson’s education but could find no proof that he holds a doctorate in psychology. But what started off as simple educational research has turned into a mystery.

I do not think that Interracial marriage is a problem in black communities.....

To shit on the work of people in the struggle because their choice of mate is ridiculous.....

And it overshadows any good points that he may otherwise make....

THE ROOT ISNT OWNED BY BLACKS THOUGH SMH CANT TRUST THEM

Doesn't matter who owns the publication....

I have researched myself....

And as an individual in academia, I can tell you that if you put the work in to be called a doctor....

Then you would be happy to show your credentials & there won't be anything mysterious about it....

I wish a nigga would ask me about my credentials.....

But it only really matters if you call yourself a doctor....

Especially a doctor of psychology.....

 

[Ajackson17]

Umar is a charlatan.....

A lot of people don't care about his credentials and suggest that it doesn't matter....

However, it does matter, especially if you call yourself a Dr....

The Root searched every level of Johnson’s education but could find no proof that he holds a doctorate in psychology. But what started off as simple educational research has turned into a mystery.

I do not think that Interracial marriage is a problem in black communities.....

To shit on the work of people in the struggle because their choice of mate is ridiculous.....

And it overshadows any good points that he may otherwise make....

THE ROOT ISNT OWNED BY BLACKS THOUGH SMH CANT TRUST THEM

Doesn't matter who owns the publication....

I have researched myself....

And as an individual in academia, I can tell you that if you put the work in to be called a doctor....

Then you would be happy to show your credentials....

I wish a nigga would ask me about my credentials.....

But it only really matters if you call yourself a doctor....

Especially a doctor of psychology.....

What's your degrees are in? No malice at all. Because I'll use you as a reference for later debates depending on your authority that you have in.

 

[jetlifebih]

Look at the language used in the article.....

 

[bambu]

Umar is a charlatan.....

A lot of people don't care about his credentials and suggest that it doesn't matter....

However, it does matter, especially if you call yourself a Dr....

The Root searched every level of Johnson’s education but could find no proof that he holds a doctorate in psychology. But what started off as simple educational research has turned into a mystery.

I do not think that Interracial marriage is a problem in black communities.....

To shit on the work of people in the struggle because their choice of mate is ridiculous.....

And it overshadows any good points that he may otherwise make....

THE ROOT ISNT OWNED BY BLACKS THOUGH SMH CANT TRUST THEM

Doesn't matter who owns the publication....

I have researched myself....

And as an individual in academia, I can tell you that if you put the work in to be called a doctor....

Then you would be happy to show your credentials....

I wish a nigga would ask me about my credentials.....

But it only really matters if you call yourself a doctor....

Especially a doctor of psychology.....

What's your degrees are in? No malice at all. Because I'll use you as a reference for later debates depending on your authority that you have in.

Engineering Design, Anthropology & History

Associates, bachelors & masters

I do not have a PhD...

But if and when I get mine.....

Please believe niggas will address me as Dr. Bambu....

And there would be no questions regarding credentials....

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Umar is a charlatan.....

A lot of people don't care about his credentials and suggest that it doesn't matter....

However, it does matter, especially if you call yourself a Dr....

The Root searched every level of Johnson’s education but could find no proof that he holds a doctorate in psychology. But what started off as simple educational research has turned into a mystery.

I do not think that Interracial marriage is a problem in black communities.....

To shit on the work of people in the struggle because their choice of mate is ridiculous.....

And it overshadows any good points that he may otherwise make....

THE ROOT ISNT OWNED BY BLACKS THOUGH SMH CANT TRUST THEM

Doesn't matter who owns the publication....

I have researched myself....

And as an individual in academia, I can tell you that if you put the work in to be called a doctor....

Then you would be happy to show your credentials....

I wish a nigga would ask me about my credentials.....

But it only really matters if you call yourself a doctor....

Especially a doctor of psychology.....

What's your degrees are in? No malice at all. Because I'll use you as a reference for later debates depending on your authority that you have in.

Engineering Design, Anthropology & History

Associates, bachelors & masters

I do not have a PhD...

But if and when I get mine.....

Please believe niggas will address me as Dr. Bambu....

And there would be no questions regarding credentials....

that aint shit,.

i aint got it and these words are strictly for hating purposes.

 

[Kwan Dai]

They'd rather discuss who has the more robust alphabet soup then, the issues Umar has put on the table. Talk about worthless nonsense.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

They'd rather discuss who has the more robust alphabet soup then, the issues Umar has put on the table. Talk about worthless nonsense.

this is always my problem with this.

deflect

deflect

deflect

spend more time defending you worth than proving or encouraging it.

 

[bambu]

Umar is a charlatan.....

A lot of people don't care about his credentials and suggest that it doesn't matter....

However, it does matter, especially if you call yourself a Dr....

The Root searched every level of Johnson’s education but could find no proof that he holds a doctorate in psychology. But what started off as simple educational research has turned into a mystery.

I do not think that Interracial marriage is a problem in black communities.....

To shit on the work of people in the struggle because their choice of mate is ridiculous.....

And it overshadows any good points that he may otherwise make....

THE ROOT ISNT OWNED BY BLACKS THOUGH SMH CANT TRUST THEM

Doesn't matter who owns the publication....

I have researched myself....

And as an individual in academia, I can tell you that if you put the work in to be called a doctor....

Then you would be happy to show your credentials....

I wish a nigga would ask me about my credentials.....

But it only really matters if you call yourself a doctor....

Especially a doctor of psychology.....

What's your degrees are in? No malice at all. Because I'll use you as a reference for later debates depending on your authority that you have in.

Engineering Design, Anthropology & History

Associates, bachelors & masters

I do not have a PhD...

But if and when I get mine.....

Please believe niggas will address me as Dr. Bambu....

And there would be no questions regarding credentials....

that aint shit,.

i aint got it and these words are strictly for hating purposes.

You are right....

And umar's message doesn't require a PhD....

To me its the fact that he claims one but it cannot be verified....

If he's gonna lie about that, then what else is he lying about....????

 

[NoCompetition]

Umar, and folks like him, have spent decades giving the message that your favorite rapper is just now starting to put in their music.

Why is one able to make millions off it, but the other is reduced to a "pimp"? Theyre both giving the same message.

Whose favorite rapper? Hip Hop has always been littered with knowledge for the betterment of our people.

I wasnt trying to imply Hip Hop culture never had knowledge. So I repeat, why does your favorite rapper get props for kicking knowledge, but a fella like Umar doesnt?

Serious question, cause i have no reason to believe yall would of treated X any different. Reflects poorly on the shoe it fits, but id at least hope such a person was consistent with it.

The cache that Umar's name has speaks to the acclaim that his words have garnered. Just because some people don't acknowledge him doesn't mean he's not being acknowledged.

Umar definitely needs to exercise more self-control. His message is on point most of the time but he doesn't respond to negative criticism well. Like, at all. One "liar" and he's ready to go back and forth name calling. I look to Malcolm X, who never stooped to the level of his detractors. His poise alone made racists and uncle Toms look foolish.

If that's your only gripe, you're not who my original question was aimed at. I'm trying to hear from the niggas that cut these conscious cat's at the knee's.

Like hearing that pro-black shit makes them go, "He's pimping the black community".

I'm like with what? Knowledge, game, facts. Like a book? Like these niggas enjoy getting FBI visits, death threats, and risking they livelihood. They compare the conscious to preachers, preachers ain't gotta worry bout being targeted. The money is in cooning, so what sense does it make for them to not go where the money is? What sense does it make to stand up and risk getting shot, for teaching powerless negroes, if one wanted to pimp black folks? It makes none, which is why I don't believe that surface shit when niggas make that claim.

A good number of these niggas ain't giving facts...theyre giving their opinion. I saw a video of one of these conscious dudes talking about women having a menstrual cycle is unnatural and that changing your diet to a non European diet would eliminate it....really my nigga? These the folks you want to prop up?

Im propping up no one here, just trying give some understanding. Now the IC was more than willing to separate that black lady cop that was killed from all the crooked cops we hear bout, even while knowing nothing of her conduct on the job. It should be no problem to separate a nigga talking nonsense from the niggas talking with sense. Its what you should do.

And if someone is talking crazy PROVING them wrong should take priority. A conscious person worth their salt doesnt want you to just take their word, they welcome you to do your own research. So argue the information before the messenger. Use evidence, not ego. Cant be dismissing, or accepting, information simply cause it makes you feel a certain way. Unfortunately, i beleive thats what the majority of yall do on here.

Accepting information because it makes you feel a certain way is exactly what people like Umar thrive on. People accepting what they're saying because it connects to an anger and frustration we all feel as black people in this country. They play on that. You can argue both the information and the messenger as both are equally important. You asked "what are they pimping the black community with" and say you don't get the criticism...then talk about separating the people actually speaking truthfully vs those just speaking bullshit. The niggas speaking bullshit is exactly who the criticism is aimed at.

Good breakdown. I always think of these types as either just grossly misinformed/confused and/or ruthless. They prey on the most vulnerable and impressionable. And they use emotion to do it. When you use any critical thinking it doesnt connect. And its easy for some to see through like "Im not going to waste any time on that". It takes a certain type to even follow such unconnected, incomplete, and just nonsensical lines of "reasoning". For instance, dropping out of the political process-common sense says you are depriving yourself of representation and it will go whatever direction others want it to go disregarding your will and wellbeing. Right? quite simple. Its not something you can take "off" it doesnt stop. But they can actually convince some that its worth it, for some theoretical future consideration that may never come to pass, to give up your voice. And what about the effects of the politics that are allowed to transpire in your absence? Doesnt make sense. Thats a losing proposition.

But to me its simple, Pretty quick my b.s. detectors go up even if they say something that makes sense they say a lot that doesnt and it goes somewhere that doesnt make sense and at best these clowns nonsensical ramblings go in the entertainment pile. Which is what they are. Entertainment. Its to sell what they sell to those who they can. Its not about practical reality it doesnt work. You can be conscious and aware but part of that, a big part is actual real life day to day. Its not the extreme forget the society you actually live in for theoreticals that may not actually even exist. When you know the day to day society you live in exists.

 

[Kwan Dai]

Umar is a charlatan.....

A lot of people don't care about his credentials and suggest that it doesn't matter....

However, it does matter, especially if you call yourself a Dr....

The Root searched every level of Johnson’s education but could find no proof that he holds a doctorate in psychology. But what started off as simple educational research has turned into a mystery.

I do not think that Interracial marriage is a problem in black communities.....

To shit on the work of people in the struggle because their choice of mate is ridiculous.....

And it overshadows any good points that he may otherwise make....

THE ROOT ISNT OWNED BY BLACKS THOUGH SMH CANT TRUST THEM

Doesn't matter who owns the publication....

I have researched myself....

And as an individual in academia, I can tell you that if you put the work in to be called a doctor....

Then you would be happy to show your credentials....

I wish a nigga would ask me about my credentials.....

But it only really matters if you call yourself a doctor....

Especially a doctor of psychology.....

What's your degrees are in? No malice at all. Because I'll use you as a reference for later debates depending on your authority that you have in.

Engineering Design, Anthropology & History

Associates, bachelors & masters

I do not have a PhD...

But if and when I get mine.....

Please believe niggas will address me as Dr. Bambu....

And there would be no questions regarding credentials....

that aint shit,.

i aint got it and these words are strictly for hating purposes.

You are right....

And umar's message doesn't require a PhD....

To me its the fact that he claims one but it cannot be verified....

If he's gonna lie about that, then what else is he lying about....????

You can keep asking lame and speculative questions. While Blacks continue to live with the damaging issues he's openly discussing.

We know he's not lying about the state of Black Men and Women.

He's not lying about racism and bias in education.

He's not lying about the effeminization and suppression of the Black warrior spirit in both Black men and Women.

We know he's not lying about failures present in our current political system\process.

Etc

etc

etc.

 

[Kwan Dai]

Maybe the nigga wouldn't be so tense defending his degree if he could prove he actually had a doctorate...niggas really try and defend him by just brushing over that shit. The man is trying to start a school and ya'll just want to skip over all evidence that has been found pointing to him lying about his level of education?

@2stepz_ahead Everytime the topic of calling someone out for being wrong you go back to the same retort of "Well who is right all fo the time" or "Why does someone have to be perfect in order for you to listen"...Do you not get that perfection isnt' the goal but being accurate is? You stay giving people passes for talking nonsense solely based on "Well, ain't nobody perfect"...no shit...but it ain't a bad thing to get corrected when you're wrong. Especially when you're in certain positions it's definitely to your benefit.

because......the message always gets lost

case and point...alof are mentally fukked up on the grand scheme. they have to correct themselves. the have to listen and learn from others. others that will their own shit...but it not about the shit you can find on them but taking the message they was trying to give without saying you can not tell me because....

one of my mentors was a alcoholic.....that didnt mean he couldnt teach me about business. i learned alot. he spoke about why he drinks like he does. it was none of my business . so that shouldnt stop the message but i could offer advice about alcoholism that i learned from family members.

if you cant allow mistakes from others....you are assuming you are perfect and can teach.

everything dont need to be called out when the problem is much bigger than the person.

do i really need marriage advice from him? no..thats not im there for. if he has a problem respecting me for who i married....thats on him. im not going to prove to him who i fukk wont stop my work because my work wont stop.

I'm all for allowing people to make mistakes. That's how you learn. What you seem to be against though is calling people out and correcting them for making mistakes. That leads to nowhere but repeating the same mistakes. The message doesn't get lost because someone is imperfect. The message gets lost when that person can't acknowledge or is constantly given a pass for their mistakes and never learning from them. That's what you constantly seem to miss. And no every little thing shouldn't be called out but when someone who not only bills themselves as an educator but also wants to start a school has some funny shit on their own educational resume what sense would it make to just brush over that like its a small thing?

So, stop making the mistake of bringing up lame and trivial points that Umar has addressed year in and year out.

He cant even address where the money he collected went and last time he got called out on it started making memes about the person who asked him...this dude is not all y'all think he is. Niggas too easily drawn in by a "fuck the white man" stance. Just as gullible as the church folks you criticize

Care to support your dishonesty by quoting Umar saying "fuck the white man"?

It's Umar's detractors that believe him to be something more then what he is.

Umar is simply a Black man bringing issues and information to the table that affect Blacks todays and in many cases have affected us in the past as well.

I see him same I see Chuck D, Michael Eric Dyson, Cornell West, Wise Intelligent, and Tariq Nasheed to name a few. I don't have to agree with all of their ideas. But I am fully supporting a Black man that is willing to bring our issues to the forefront.. Yall keep worrying about trivial bullshit like degrees though, and money which, you have given none of.

 

[Mister B.]

Why is this thread title worded like that? Roland didn't face off with UJ. Is that some sort of clickbait tactic?

 

[Kwan Dai]

And VSB once again gives the perfect reason why UJ isn't to be taken seriously:

Very Smart Brothas

Not one word in that crap piece discussed any of the issues that Umar addresses in his talks. In addition to the title. "Why Niggas With Advanced Degrees Hate It When People Lie About Having Them, Explained" and poor writing

Talk about not taking someone serious. What a piss poor way to support your lame argument.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Care to support your dishonesty by quoting Umar saying "fuck the white man"?

It's Umar's detractors that believe him to be something more then what he is.

Umar is simply a Black man bringing issues and information to the table that affect Blacks todays and in many cases have affected us in the past as well.

I see him same I see Chuck D, Michael Eric Dyson, Cornell West, Wise Intelligent, and Tariq Nasheed to name a few. I don't have to agree with all of their ideas. But I am fully supporting a Black man that is willing to bring our issues to the forefront.. Yall keep worrying about trivial bullshit like degrees though, and money which, you have given none of.

I respect what you're saying, but I think you keep overlooking something. Let's ignore the haters for a second and focus solely on legitimate critics of Umar.

It's great that Umar is willing to go out and speak on black issues, but if he does it in a poor way, then that can be damaging to the community. Now whether his way is poor or not is often a matter of opinion, and we can have a discussion about that, but you can't bash people because they hear how he presents his information and believe his methods are detrimental. Again, we're talking about legitimate detractors, people who can point to things he's said and express real concerns.

Its the same thing with the credentials and Frederick Douglas claims. I personally don't care about them and think people should move on. However, I can't say people are wrong for bringing those up. It's a matter of credibility. You can't be a good leader in a movement if most of your foundation is built on lies. I'm not saying this is true. I'm just disputing the idea that people shouldn't question him on these things.

It's the same reason I don't understand this "if you didn't contribute, you shouldn't speak on it mindset." If I'm a concerned citizen within the black community who cares about the black community, then I should have a stance on anything that affects the black community. If I think Umar is a conman, it is irrelevant whether or not I fell for his con and gave money, I'm going to speak against him because I believe his actions will hurt the black community. That's not just my right as a black person. That's my responsibility as someone who cares about the fate of our community. If my stance was "This dude Umar is a snake, but he's not getting my money so fuck everyone who's falling for his shit," I couldn't possibly claim that I cared about the welfare of the community.

 

[Kwan Dai]

Care to support your dishonesty by quoting Umar saying "fuck the white man"?

It's Umar's detractors that believe him to be something more then what he is.

Umar is simply a Black man bringing issues and information to the table that affect Blacks todays and in many cases have affected us in the past as well.

I see him same I see Chuck D, Michael Eric Dyson, Cornell West, Wise Intelligent, and Tariq Nasheed to name a few. I don't have to agree with all of their ideas. But I am fully supporting a Black man that is willing to bring our issues to the forefront.. Yall keep worrying about trivial bullshit like degrees though, and money which, you have given none of.

I respect what you're saying, but I think you keep overlooking something. Let's ignore the haters for a second and focus solely on legitimate critics of Umar.

It's great that Umar is willing to go out and speak on black issues, but if he does it in a poor way, then that can be damaging to the community. Now whether his way is poor or not is often a matter of opinion, and we can have a discussion about that, but you can't bash people because they hear how he presents his information and believe his methods are detrimental. Again, we're talking about legitimate detractors, people who can point to things he's said and express real concerns.

Its the same thing with the credentials and Frederick Douglas claims. I personally don't care about them and think people should move on. However, I can't say people are wrong for bringing those up. It's a matter of credibility. You can't be a good leader in a movement if most of your foundation is built on lies. I'm not saying this is true. I'm just disputing the idea that people shouldn't question him on these things.

It's the same reason I don't understand this "if you didn't contribute, you shouldn't speak on it mindset." If I'm a concerned citizen within the black community who cares about the black community, then I should have a stance on anything that affects the black community. If I think Umar is a conman, it is irrelevant whether or not I fell for his con and gave money, I'm going to speak against him because I believe his actions will hurt the black community. That's not just my right as a black person. That's my responsibility as someone who cares about the fate of our community. If my stance was "This dude Umar is a snake, but he's not getting my money so fuck everyone who's falling for his shit," I couldn't possibly claim that I cared about the welfare of the community.

This is all well and good.

A few points.

1. Umar isn't a leader. He's a Black Man with an opinion and a platform.

2. If a person isn't keen on Umar's presentation then, it's best to move on. I agree some of us aren't as thick skinned and need to be spoken to as if studying in a library. However, many said the same about Malcolm and his passion when speaking. Problem is many if not all were simply being dishonest. When the truth was they didn't agree with his message. Which is, also fair but again my advice is move on and support the person you feel comfortable supporting.

3. A concerned citizen should act on sound evidence. If, and when there's clear evidence of Umar fleecing people out of their money then, I will have to view Umar differently. Until then I am going with what History has shown us again and again in regards to Black Men and Women who speak in a tone that is unapologetically Black. They will take you down by any means necessary.