one_manshow
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jrod44;2175570 said:
From an overall perspective who is the better coach Phil Jackson or Greg Popovich?
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one_manshow
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I think Tom Thibodeau and Doc Rivers should be runners up for Coach of the year award if Spurs loose a couple games down the stretch.
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greenwood1921
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Pop, easily. But truth be told, NBA Coaches are more interchangeable and expendable than any other sport because of the power the ownership and the fans give the players.
You ever listen to those "mic'd" sideline "coach speak" shitz?
This is your average NBA pep-talk....
*On one knee surrounded by a bunch of nonchalant NBA niggas that know you'll get fired before they will.
"Okay, guys, we gotta go out there and rebound, hustle... and, um... when you shoot the ball make sure it goes in that orange cylinder with the white threads hanging off of it, mkay? And um... Yeah. And hustle an' stuff. And second-chance points or something or another."
You ever listen to those "mic'd" sideline "coach speak" shitz?
This is your average NBA pep-talk....
*On one knee surrounded by a bunch of nonchalant NBA niggas that know you'll get fired before they will.
"Okay, guys, we gotta go out there and rebound, hustle... and, um... when you shoot the ball make sure it goes in that orange cylinder with the white threads hanging off of it, mkay? And um... Yeah. And hustle an' stuff. And second-chance points or something or another."
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Mdizzle9000
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greenwood1921;2175588 said:
i think nba coaches do most of the real coaching in practice. learnin plays etc, so in games its just like run this, do that and stop fuckin up. they still just as important as any other sport.
ps: does baseball have coaches, if so, wtf do they do???? like oh hey make sure you hit the ball...
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KeepOnPushing
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mdizzle9000;2175594 said:
Bruh.................
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one_manshow;2175574 said:
I mean I guess I gotta go with Pop.
Jackson is great but he runs Tex Winter's shit, and always played with the #1 guy in the NBA with help in a big market.
But I think Pop is usually given too much leeway. Parker, Manu, and Duncan compliment each other perfect. They are great great players. So I think sometimes Pop gets too much credit, but I would still go with Pop, because he and the Spurs have the uncanny ability to make unknowns, very good players.
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greenwood1921
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mdizzle9000;2175594 said:
Yeah, of course there's SOME coaching going on somewhere, but it's not a coincidence that the NBA has had the most "instant" coaches of any league. Niggas like Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, etc just walking in after being retired for a couple years and getting HEAD COACHING jobs all willie nillie, lol.
You'll never see that shit in the NFL. Mike Singletary is arguably one of the top 5 linebackers of ALL TIME, yet he had to work his way up from position coach to get a HC job (that he only got because Nolan was fired in San Fran.)
I remember when Deion tried to talk his way into becoming the Falcons head coach when Dan Reeves got fired, and Arthur Blank was like...
And in Baseball, the players are more interchangeable than any sport. In most cases, a Shortstop is just a shortstop. He does the same thing in Milwaukee that he'll do in New York or Atlanta. THere really is no "system" in baseball. However, hitting coaches and base coaches are important because they coordinate steal-attempts, bunts, outfield positioning etc.
And there are a lot of "figure head" head coaches in football, but that's because they've done the dirty work as position coaches and now just sign or veto major decisions throughout the game. (i.e. Bobby Bowden, Joe Gibbs, etc.)
But notice how you never really hear b-ball fans argue or debate about which coaches their team should get -- it's always about which players they should get.
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ricanprince
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Coach Pop is the greatest head coach of the past 20 years
GO SPURS GO
GO SPURS GO
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one_manshow
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jrod44;2175617 said:
Agree/cosign your post.
There are many people who look at coaches from a "winning" stand point in terms of rings like Phil Jackson but little do they understand that it takes more than "winning" to be a great coach.
If my memory is correct I don't think the Spurs have failed to make the playoffs since TD entered the league but with the Lakers the same cannot be said.
Also depending on a coaches philsophy and system a star can be created it is through coaches players become legends.
Having the right coach is an important variable.
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A$AP_A$TON
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Probably Chicago's coach, they have the same team as last year but now they went from an 8th seed to top 3 in a stacked East. Rick Carlisle is doin his thing to in the West, very silently. That might be for the best since every time they are favored they start to slow down goin in to the playoffs.
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G.R.I.P. Money $$$
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gotta b soda pop...
dey stay winnin..
always able to max out the contribution of random unknown niggas(helped a couple of em become stars)..
dey stay winnin..
always able to max out the contribution of random unknown niggas(helped a couple of em become stars)..
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Got go with Doc Rivers....He a a former player who learned from pop ,who manages four future hall of famers, a budding superstar (rondo) and a young nigga that could get alot more elsewhere (baby)And an allstar who sadly has been hurt lazy(J. ONeal, R. wallace) Hes won a title, and hes had shitty years where he made men out of alot of youngins (kenrick perkins, delonte west, al jefferson, rondo) ....the difference...he PLAYED the game, hes a motivator whos done it out of KNOWLEDGE and not fear, he played with stars..... dominique, ewing, Robinson) played against alot of great early 80s/90s players, and hes won a title, or gotten them to the finals. Pop has experienced assistants where doc hasnt.....and hes a better teacher. Pop has a better GM, because he named the guy they have now GM. Doc has had to work with what he got and pop has more say so in day to day.......And they have beaten the spurs waaaay more in the D. Rivers age than they did beforehand.....
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G.R.I.P. Money $$$;2175835 said:
If anyone remembers, tony parker and Ginobili werent unknown in NBA circles...the issue was getting them over seas. But they had the foresight to have more euro scouts than the next team, and keep their rights. But these guys didnt sneak up on anyone. They were just more difficult to sign
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