b*braze;2185211 said:just stop...
mad cuz i make sense right...yeah i know
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b*braze;2185211 said:just stop...
qoolaide33;2184739 said:I'm not going to waste my energy on a Boston native anymore.
I already said I agreed that greats players and coaches go together. Doc just wasn't shit until he got a few. Nothing wrong with that. But one of the best... after sub-par seasons with the Magic.... Negative.
Niggas throwing around the word elite like breadcrumbs.
rap doctor;2176499 said:You're not serious
And im going go with Nate McMillan although i am biased
ghost!;2187630 said:mad cuz i make sense right...yeah i know
b*braze;2188145 said:more like embarassed... for you... makin a ass outta yourself, diggin a deeper hole with every post
ghost!;2187632 said:stop using that as an excuse..i dropped knowledge and back'd up my examples..plan n simple..u give doc some praises but not enough cuz he had HOFers...so again i ask what was pat riley when he had magic and the rest..how about when he went to miami and had wade n shaq...did u notice that he only one titles with those teams....never won one with the knicks nor won anymore after shaq left....thankx its knowledge i know.
and u tell me would phil jackson or pop have done better with the magic team doc rivers had that year? i'll wait for this answer
ghost!;2188195 said:oh plz wise one (sacrasm)..plz show me where i'm wrong?
doc rivers is not one of the better coaches in the league? Really?
qoolaide33;2188603 said:Dropping knowledge? Don't flatter yourself. I said that because I'm not the type of person to argue in circles with someone who is a homer, because the argument will never end. That's what I was getting at. Never was I bailing out, I just have better shit to do..
qoolaide33;2188603 said:And when it comes to Riley, I never was a huge Riley fan. So we agree on that. But even though he didn't win a ring in NY, he still got to the Finals, and he had some 60 win seasons with the Heat of the 90s. Doc's other team won a max of 45 games and didn't leave the first round. So if you take Doc away from Boston and Riley away from the Lakers and the Wade/Shaq Heat team, Riley's resume is still clearly over Doc's. And if you say it isn't you're out of your damn mind. You're trying to discredit what Riley did when he wasn't with his better teams, but you want to give Doc props for his Magic run? No...
qoolaide33;2188603 said:You're trying to name Doc elite for 3 1/2 years of work, when his resume is closer to 10 years. You're just disregarding the longer half of his coaching career. I'm not mad at what Doc's doing now, I just don't remember him being a hell of a coach before. Phil, Pop and Riley had just as much or more help, but they've had success twice as long and longer. Doc needs to be great a few more years lil homie. I don't how I can explain myself any further. Doc isn't that dude.
And would they have done better with the Magic? My guess is yes. You sound silly as hell trying to make it like they couldn't do a better job. Go watch badminton or something.
b*braze;2188885 said:dog your posts are dumb... you compared PJ to robert horry and then tried to say what doc rivers has done puts him up there with popovich, riley and jackson.
is doc a good coach... no doubt.
on the same level as 4x champion popovich 6x champion riley and 11x champion jackson???? gtfoh
ricanprince;2175627 said:Coach Pop is the greatest head coach of the past 20 years
GO SPURS GO
ghost!;2189280 said:the f you hear me say anything about PJ brown and robert horry..get your posters correct! and get the "elite" ish off your friggin brain...he's one of the better coaches in the league...pop and phil jackson had great teams to coach..won titles with great teams..most great coaches do..the only difference is....doc hasnt coached long enough
i can't say it any clearly to you....ONE OF THE BETTER COACHES....
ghost!;2183150 said:my point..is what doc did was enough to be put in the same sentence with pop and phil the only difference is he hasnt coach as long as them...
b*braze;2189470 said:PJ=phil jackson. im sure no one is thinkin about pj brown
and you right,wrong poster, my bad...its just that a lot of you jackasses say similar shit
but back to the point... know you tryin to back off your claim that doc "belong in the same sentence" as PJ, and pop when the facts of the matter is he dont.
i mean this IS YOU right? im not getting the wrong poster here am i? this is your dumb ass quote.
PJ and pop are elite coaches... you said doc belongs with them... meaning you think he's elite. i mean that would be a reasonable assessment of your claim right?
now you sayin that you didnt mean elite. he's either an elite coach on their level or he aint. which is it?
we already know the answer, but indulge me anyway.
ghost!;2189621 said:posters threw names together in the list (in no order) pop, phil, and doc were mention.
i'm saying he is one of the better coaches...anot the best but one of the better coaches.(i do think he is a better X's and O's coach then phil jackson).i'm not saying doc rivers is better then them..but right now for the past few years he is one of the better coaches..thats' all i'm saying...i have said it over and over again..he cant compare to phil and pop CUZ HE HADNT COACH LONG ENOUGH NOR HAS THE RESUME again for the 10000 time i said that.
but for recent history he is looked at around the league as one of the better coaches..thats' what i'm talking about..why do i care what other posters view on him is like that???..i'm just saying he is viewed as one of the better coaches in the league..now this is me repeating myself again since u didnt read me saying that before..apparently
and i even said i think jerry solan could be better then all of them...
b*braze;2189756 said:phil jackson first 8 years with the bulls... 6 rings. first 3 years with the lakers... 3straight.
pop first 10 years 3 rings
doc rivers first 12 years... 1 ring.
still no comparison even if pop and PJ retire tomorrow and doc wins the 3 next 5 championships. pop and PJ accomplished more in a shorter time span.
and jerry sloan being better than any of them is even more laughable
ghost!;2189879 said:the fuck..if i said he can't compare to what they have done..then why the f are u running down the list...if i said his resume cant compare to them..why are u running down the list..
u retarded??? really are u retarded...never said he was better then pop, i feel he is a better Xo's and Os coah then phil and you give me a list..as of right now i think he is one of th ebetter coaches and you give me this list...
i'm think you are retarded for real..im done with you..it's like talking to a female who done know how to listen...
and PS:
dont even give me phil's resume after inheriting the bulls..and having shaq and kobe on the same team.....nigga plz...didnt win another ring until he got gasol ass on his squad..
phil jackson i think is over hyped...wake me up when he actually makes a bad team good.
ghost!;2183150 said:u dont make sense....chi-town phil jackosn took over doug collins team..and if you watch'd then during the piston vs bulls ECFs runs u knew they were(the bulls) a season away from over taken the pistons..tommy would of tell you that....and pop too...they had superstars..how u gonna say they took teams over the hump but doc didnt do that when he took a first year assemble team to the finals?? and won plus handing A PHIL JACKSON lead team to the one of th e worst finals ass whippin in history??
yea cuz first year teams always win championships right? Yup the heat are doing fine, the first year shaq and kobe got together they did fine, how about the nuggets when a.i. first got there, or when billups got there....or the time the lakers got g.peyton and karl malone..my point..is what doc did was enough to be put in the same sentence with pop and phil the only difference is he hasnt coach as long as them...
smh you given pop props and u admitt to him always having a good team, also with phil jackson ..but doc doesnt get props for taken the very first
super team" so to speak over the hump when everyone outside of boston didnt think they were gonna win a championship that year?
smh..and like i said...a coaching branch off of doc rivers is in the league now doing a great job as head coach for coach..how many coaches off of phil jackson's (for example) branch is doing that?
b*braze;2189969 said:you all frustrated and flustered
YOU the one who said what doc has done so far puts him on the level of pop and PJ.
YOU said that dumb shit.
i just showed your remedial ass why that was false
b*braze;2184157 said:hell muthafuckin nawwww....