Pun and Notorious both got 2 Albums...

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Trillaaaaaa;529863 said:
As well as one posthumous project

Why does Notorious get an automatic top 5 spot but Pun doesn't?

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I don't think Yeah Baby was wack but it's a huge step down from Capitol Punishment.

As for the thread Ready To Die and Life After Death are genre defining albums that both changed the game. Biggie was far more influential than Pun in hip hop. That's why he's top 5.
 
5th Letter;7948260 said:
I don't think Yeah Baby was wack but it's a huge step down from Capitol Punishment.

As for the thread Ready To Die and Life After Death are genre defining albums that both changed the game. Biggie was far more influential than Pun in hip hop. That's why he's top 5.

Facts!
 
Trillaaaaaa;7948188 said:
its....JOHN B;7948025 said:
Stupid question

Ready to die/Life after death>>Capital punishment/yeeeeah baby

Big>>Pun

That's why

BIG's albums are definitely better but Pun was nicer on the mic

gns;7948111 said:
Fucking spics make this dumb ass thread 50 11 times a year.

the answer will always be NO.

lol I'm Haitian

Stop inhaling that dumbinican oxygen

It's inspiring u to make coon threads, I say this respectfully my Haitian brother
 
gns;7948324 said:
Trillaaaaaa;7948188 said:
its....JOHN B;7948025 said:
Stupid question

Ready to die/Life after death>>Capital punishment/yeeeeah baby

Big>>Pun

That's why

BIG's albums are definitely better but Pun was nicer on the mic

gns;7948111 said:
Fucking spics make this dumb ass thread 50 11 times a year.

the answer will always be NO.

lol I'm Haitian

Stop inhaling that dumbinican oxygen

It's inspiring u to make coon threads, I say this respectfully my Haitian brother

lol you trippin, I'm from florida though so I'm not breathiing no Dominican air.

And Pun is a nigga as far as I'm concerned
 
I don't be doing top fives but pun is easily in the same league as biggie, capital punishment is arguably the best hip hop album ever and yeah baby is better than atleast 99% of the bullshit released today, oh and pun chased jigga around the club after going upside his head with a champagne bottle, he gets extra points for that shit.
 
_Goldie_;7947697 said:
Big was the number 1 or 2 cat in the game his entire career. Pun was never the number 1 cat in the game.

Both Big albums are classics and arguably both are top 10 of alltime, Pun only had one and it doesnt compare to either of Bigs.

Summary: Big had better albums and a bigger impact and influence on the game.

LOL at his entire career, He was on top of the game 3 years lol. His albums are not top 10 of all time either they actually havent aged to well. Top 10 his generation easy.
 
The premise of this thread is all wrong.

Notorious BIG has two complete albums; Ready to Die and Life After Death. Then there's two more posthumous albums; Born Again and Duets the Final Chapter.

Big Pun has one complete album; Capital Punishment. Endangered Species and Yeah Baby are posthumous remix/collabo albums.

So basically Notorious BIG has two complete albums and Big Pun has one complete album.
 
Pun had the better technical skills but Big had the better albums.

However, people forget or flat out don't know how crucial of a role Puffy played in crafting those albums.

Big wanted to go in a more illmatic type of direction.

And hell think of the difference between Party & Bullshit and Ready to Die.

Pun didn't have that same focus behind him and it shows. And I have a lot of love for TS.
 
5 Grand;7949660 said:
The premise of this thread is all wrong.

Notorious BIG has two complete albums; Ready to Die and Life After Death. Then there's two more posthumous albums; Born Again and Duets the Final Chapter.

Big Pun has one complete album; Capital Punishment. Endangered Species and Yeah Baby are posthumous remix/collabo albums.

So basically Notorious BIG has two complete albums and Big Pun has one complete album.

Yeahhh baby wasn't completed but it doesn't qualify as a posthumous album like Endangered species, it was close to being finished it wasn't just some shit they threw together after his death
 
5th Letter;7948260 said:
I don't think Yeah Baby was wack but it's a huge step down from Capitol Punishment.

As for the thread Ready To Die and Life After Death are genre defining albums that both changed the game. Biggie was far more influential than Pun in hip hop. That's why he's top 5.

Yeeeah Baby was a step down in part b/c Pun never really finished recording. He was still in the recording process for the album but some of the cuts on the album weren't supposed to be on the final version. Think of it as his first draft for the album. Hence why you have a song that's only Remy Martin rapping, and why it starts off rather solid but midway through the whole concept he was working with and style of songs just gets erratic and is all over the place.

His lyricism and flow definitely didn't drop off for that album, but conceptually it was definitely not complete. The title, the skits, the song concepts all don't mesh together. I don't think we got what he would've released had he been able to finish the album, which is obvious considering the mood Pun had established on Capital Punishment and the mood Fat Joe established on Endangered Species. Pun was known for fucking around and just making jokes out of his music until it was time to really get down to work. We see that on Yeeeah Baby.

So i'd be more inclined to say he probably released 1 1/2 albums rather than two, at best.
 
I got Puerto Rican heritage and will still say big was better

From a rhythm and delivery point of view big had sway and a impeccable sense of cadence..Every word struck the bar when it was supposed to..Biggies style was conversational,that kind of style has more impact with people because its delivered in a certain tone that conveys "I'm talking to you and not down on you"

Pun was a monster but His rapid flow sometimes fell off the beat on certain songs..You have to have a ear for rhythm to pick it up..Nevertheless when pun was on he was ON...The reason I think he doesn't really get love on a grand scale was because his style was simply too complex...the rapid fire delivery didn't help..He kinda Lost some ppl who weren't able to keep up with his flow,it doesn't resonate with everybody's energy the same way

Musicality first,lyricism second...Big had a better tone on the MIC that was agreeable with more people
 
Big is an amazing rapper, but in my opinion his legacy is not like a legend status. Not enough material, plus not much posthumous stuff.

Check for example 2Pac. Dude had so much music, footage, interviews, manuscripts, handwritten lyrics, movies. Still we haven't seen 40% of it, maybe even more, it's crazy and it keep the legacy fresh and relevant.

 
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L-Booma;7953542 said:
Big is an amazing rapper, but in my opinion his legacy is not like a legend status. Not enough material, plus not much posthumous stuff.

Check for example 2Pac. Dude had so much music, footage, interviews, manuscripts, handwritten lyrics, movies. Still we haven't seen 40% of it, maybe even more, it's crazy and it keep the legacy fresh and relevant.

Quality over Quantity.

IMO Biggie had better albums than Tupac.

Ready to Die is a top 3 or top 5 album in hip-hop history, that album alone is legendary status. To say Biggie is not a legend is a ignorant statement.
 
But Pun said " Just call me baby jesus cuz lately niggaz been just by the way i blaze the beat crazily tape to cd lasery it pays to be amazingly flavory........
 

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