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[Old Fart]

a poll they did. This was before Pac and Big got killed and the results show that they weren't as respected before they died. i been telling people that for the longest since i was old enough to remember those days but new school fans stay saying i'm wrong. yeah they had fans but neither was consideder GOAT until they died. Before then most talk was about KRS, LL, Rakim, Kane, Chuck D and a few more. LOL they voted both as a runner up in the overrated poll

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From: eazy...@ix.netcom.com(Yan Issers)
Date: 1996/03/26
Subject: BEST RAPPERS POLL RESULTS

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THE RESULTS OF THE POLL ARE IN:
BEST RAP PERFORMER: KRS-1 runners up: dr. dre, coolio, doug e. fresh
BEST MALE RAP PERFORMER: KRS-1 runners up: dr. dre, 2pac, big daddy
kane
BEST FEMALE RAP PERFORMER: LAURYN HILL runners up: mc lyte, queen
latifah
BEST GROUP: NWA runners up: a tribe called quest, run dmc, public
enemy
BEST LYRICIST: KRS-1 runners up: nas, too $hort, redman
BEST MUSICIAN: WYCLEFF runners up: dr.dre, rza, dj muggs
BEST DJ: DJ PREMIERE runners up: dj jazzy jeff, funkmaster flex, dj
battlecat
BEST GANGSTA RAPPER: ICE CUBE runners up: snoop, eazy-e, ice-t
BEST WEST COAST RAPPER: ICE CUBE runners up: snoop, ice-t, coolio
BEST EAST COAST RAPPER: NAS runners up: ll cool j, method man, krs-1
MOST SOCIALY CONCIOUS RAPPER: KRS-1 runners up: chuck d, bushwick bill
BEST BASS ARTIST: LUKE runners up: dj magic mike, 2 live crew
BEST DANCE/PARTY ARTIST: DOUG E. FRESH runners up: kriss kross, tag
team
BEST PRODUCER: RZA runners up: dr.dre, dj premiere
BEST RECORD LABEL: DEF JAM runners up: death row, ruthless, bad boy
BEST ALBUM: IT TAKES A NATION OF MILLIONS TO HOLD US BACK--PUBLIC ENEMY
BEST SONG--TODAY WAS A GOOD DAY--ICE CUBE
BEST VIDEO: CALIFORNIA LOVE--DR. DRE AND 2PAC
BEST COMPILATION: RAP'S GREATEST DISSES
BEST SOUNDTRACK: THE JUICE
MOST UNIQUE STYLE: OL' DIRTY BASTARD runners up: bone, mystical,
redman
MOST OVERRATED RAPPER: COOLIO runners up: snop, biggie smalls, 2pac
MOST UNDERAPPRECIATED RAPPER: ACEYALONE runners up: o.c., big daddy
kane
MOST IMPORTANT FIGURE IN HISTORY OF RAP: RUN DMC
BEST VOCALS: LAURYN HILL runners up: montell jordan, nate dogg, eazy-e

 

[Llahsram]

People bitching about the Source in 1995 and I remember it. Putting Mary J. Blige on the cover was seen as a sellout move.

Feb 16 1995

WHATS UP WITH THE SOURCE?

TO BE PLAIN ****ING SIMPLE

THE MAG IS WACK. THE WRITERS OF THE MAG APPEARED TO ALL WALK OUT ON THE SOURCE

TO ME THIS ****ED ME UP BECAUSE THE SOURCE WAS THE **** TO FIND OUT WHATS GOING

ON IN THE HIP HOP WORLD. I MEAN THE OTHER MAGS OUT LIKE WORD UP AND VIBE AND

ETC.. DIDN'T STACK WELL WITH THE SOURCE BECAUSE TO SOME EXENT THEY REPRESENTED

THE REAL. LAST ****ING COUPLE OF ISSUES WERE SAD TO LOOK AT. I USED TO GET HYP

ED EVERYTIME I BOUGHT ONE. THE MAIN REASON FOR THE DECLINE TO ME IS THE STAFF

THAT TOOK OFF ON THE SOURCE. NOW THE NEW STAFF AINT PUTTING OUT AND I JUST HOP

ING THAT THEY DO GET SOME OF THE OLD WRITERS BACK AND SAVE THE ****. EVEN THAT

PHAT ***** THE RAP BANDIT NEED TO COME BACK!!!!!!

Feb 23 1995

Yeah, that punk BUC WILD is now writin for the Source. Muthaphucka ain't

even outta high school tryin to school us bout hip-hop. Looks like the

Source's "Golden Age" has passed. You know I ain't gonna renew my

subscription! Once I saw Mary J. on the cover, I knew that was the end

of the Source's commitment to hip hop music. Don't get me wrong, Mary J.

is phat, but her makin the cover of the Source, a hip hop mag??? Even

though I enjoyed the article, that was VIBE material, not the Source's.

May the Source rest in peace.

 

[Llahsram]

a poll they did. This was before Pac and Big got killed and the results show that they weren't as respected before they died. i been telling people that for the longest since i was old enough to remember those days but new school fans stay saying i'm wrong. yeah they had fans but neither was consideder GOAT until they died. Before then most talk was about KRS, LL, Rakim, Kane, Chuck D and a few more. LOL they voted both as a runner up in the overrated poll

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From: eazy...@ix.netcom.com(Yan Issers)

Date: 1996/03/26

Subject: BEST RAPPERS POLL RESULTS

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THE RESULTS OF THE POLL ARE IN:

BEST RAP PERFORMER: KRS-1 runners up: dr. dre, coolio, doug e. fresh

BEST MALE RAP PERFORMER: KRS-1 runners up: dr. dre, 2pac, big daddy

kane

BEST FEMALE RAP PERFORMER: LAURYN HILL runners up: mc lyte, queen

latifah

BEST GROUP: NWA runners up: a tribe called quest, run dmc, public

enemy

BEST LYRICIST: KRS-1 runners up: nas, too $hort, redman

BEST MUSICIAN: WYCLEFF runners up: dr.dre, rza, dj muggs

BEST DJ: DJ PREMIERE runners up: dj jazzy jeff, funkmaster flex, dj

battlecat

BEST GANGSTA RAPPER: ICE CUBE runners up: snoop, eazy-e, ice-t

BEST WEST COAST RAPPER: ICE CUBE runners up: snoop, ice-t, coolio

BEST EAST COAST RAPPER: NAS runners up: ll cool j, method man, krs-1

MOST SOCIALY CONCIOUS RAPPER: KRS-1 runners up: chuck d, bushwick bill

BEST BASS ARTIST: LUKE runners up: dj magic mike, 2 live crew

BEST DANCE/PARTY ARTIST: DOUG E. FRESH runners up: kriss kross, tag

team

BEST PRODUCER: RZA runners up: dr.dre, dj premiere

BEST RECORD LABEL: DEF JAM runners up: death row, ruthless, bad boy

BEST ALBUM: IT TAKES A NATION OF MILLIONS TO HOLD US BACK--PUBLIC ENEMY

BEST SONG--TODAY WAS A GOOD DAY--ICE CUBE

BEST VIDEO: CALIFORNIA LOVE--DR. DRE AND 2PAC

BEST COMPILATION: RAP'S GREATEST DISSES

BEST SOUNDTRACK: THE JUICE

MOST UNIQUE STYLE: OL' DIRTY BASTARD runners up: bone, mystical,

redman

MOST OVERRATED RAPPER: COOLIO runners up: snop, biggie smalls, 2pac

MOST UNDERAPPRECIATED RAPPER: ACEYALONE runners up: o.c., big daddy

kane

MOST IMPORTANT FIGURE IN HISTORY OF RAP: RUN DMC

BEST VOCALS: LAURYN HILL runners up: montell jordan, nate dogg, eazy-e

I agree and remember people saying that.

 

[Llahsram]

This shit is funny as hell.

CHECK OUT MY LYRICAL SKILLS!!

Osei Luta- King Ampadu

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From: chops...@wam.umd.edu (Osei Luta- King Ampadu)

Date: 1996/09/20

Subject: CHECK OUT MY LYRICAL SKILLS!!

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CHECK OUT THIS FRESTYLE!!!! YOU'LL BE BEGGIN FOR MY DEMO TAPE!!!!

FROM A SONG I WROTE CALLED "BIG TITTY"

- Oh ****.... here I go once again

- *****es taste like **** when you put your tongue in

- that ***** that taste like vinegar mixed with gin

- Like Chavez when I step on the mike I ususally win

- check my spin... its like Tupac gettin ****ed in jail

- in and out of your butt so quick won't even need money for bail

- My **** is hard- time to call up Shanice, Tasha, and Gail

- They all *****es but what the hey I'll take the time to make them

wail

- CHORUS: -Back in my cadillac still steady drivin'

- 100 miles an' hour but don't give a **** about cops findin'

- me

- 'cause I'm a loc g

- B-I-G-T-I-T-T-to the Y spells BIG TITTY!!!

That's just a sample... I'm on No Limit

Records... My name is O-Boy and my album will be out on Oct. 9 at a stoe

near you.... its called CONTEMPLATION. So.... what do ya think?????

 

[Maalik]

Here's a sports fourm I thought was funny

No dap to Michael Jordan for saying that just b/c he's won 3 in a row,

he's better than Magic. Listen, if you end up wearing six Championship

rings, then we'll talk...but I'm calling it...Chicago has won it's last

Championship. Expect the Knicks or the Suns to whomp 'em next year...

O-D.U.B.

no APAthy

Jun 22 1993, 2:39 am

Oh lord.....that nigga need to never post online again

 

[Llahsram]

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From: havi...@aol.comk1op23k4 (Havikkk)

Date: 1999/06/10

Subject: Re: CASH MONEY WHACK OR PHAT

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If there was something between Master Penis and Juvenile tell me what happened.

No Limit sucks ass, and Cash Money is alright if they would get rid of Lil

Wayne. Lil Wayne has the most ***gish voice. I think he should kicked off,

and if I ever saw him on the streets, I would kick his ass cause he is such a

dork... Looks like a butt pirate sorta like all the members of No Limit.

 

[MR.CJ]

MOST OVERRATED RAPPER: COOLIO runners up: snop, biggie smalls, 2pac

lmaooooooooooooo

 

[Llahsram]

Oh lord.....that nigga need to never post online again

lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Epic Loss

 

[Llahsram]

This is only 2003 but I thought it was funny as hell

Feb 28 2003, 11:01 am

Subject: Re: My Predictions for the year in rap

Crooked I will drop his album and establish himself as another great

emcee in Hip Hop.

A lot of **** from Aftermath -- Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, D12 solo albums,

Rakim, and much more.

 

[MICHAEL-V.I.]

oh lord.....that nigga need to never post online again

the knicker-bocker's? Fool's gold they aint won no ring since the 70's

the sun's never won a nba championship

yeah duke crazy

THE BULLS MIGHT COME OUT THE EAST

BEHIND MVP #1 D.ROSE

THE BEST PG IN THE NBA

 

[MR.CJ]

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From: havi...@aol.comk1op23k4 (Havikkk)

Date: 1999/06/10

Subject: Re: CASH MONEY WHACK OR PHAT

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If there was something between Master Penis and Juvenile tell me what happened.

No Limit sucks ass, and Cash Money is alright if they would get rid of Lil

Wayne. Lil Wayne has the most ***gish voice. I think he should kicked off,

and if I ever saw him on the streets, I would kick his ass cause he is such a

dork... Looks like a butt pirate sorta like all the members of No Limit.

LMAO

im in tears

 

[Llahsram]

This is classic like the Snoop Doggy Dogg one I posted earlier. LOL

Oct 9 1992

I was listening to a local radio station here in Baltimore earlier today

and I heard a beat that I want some information on. I don't know the name of

the song but it's on the movie soundtrack for "Deep Cover" and it's done by MC

Ren and a brother named Snoopy something or other.

Aug 11 1992

Has anyone out there got any info on 'Snoop Doggy Dogg'?, i saw him on

the Deep Cover video with Dre, hype style and dope lyrics.

Apr 6 1992

Hey has anyone heard anything about the "Deep Cover" soundtrack???

It's Bill Duke's new film staring Larry Fishburne. And I heard Dre of NWA

does the music. But what about jams?? Anyone know?

And also, I heard the soundtrack to "Looters" is going to be more of

a Ice Cube / Ice-T album, with equal songs from both (and one duet).

Jul 1 1992

one-eight-seven ?

anyone care to discipher

the meaning of this term. In Deep Cover with Dre and some new group

whose name escapes me, there's a really cool sounding line, but I have

no clue what the hell they're talking about.

Yeah, and ya don't stop.

Cause it's one-eight-seven on the undercover cop

 

[CirocObama]

LOL reading alot of those posts is making me feel like we actually in the early 90's right now. I be forgettin and shit LOL.

 

[Llahsram]

LMAO

im in tears

LOL Me too

 

[Llahsram]

"when i was a wee lad of about 15-18 we never had money to go to shows (oh, po'

po' pitiful me), so we used to get together about 10 -15 fellas and simply

crash the gates to get in. this is what we called a bumrush. sometimes you'd

get grabbed, but usually if you were in the middle of the pack you'd make it

in."

*dies*

 

[Llahsram]

Vanilla Ice in the 90s is what Soulja Boy is now.

Apr 21 1991

Why does everyone hate Vanilla Ice so much? I don't listen to much rap, but

it doesn't sound any different from any other stuff that's popular. Is it

because he's white? Seriously, what's the deal here?

Apr 21 1991

The reason that comes to my mind the quickest when I think of Vanilla Ice

(and I don't think of him a lot, trust me) is that he is a PERPETRATOR in

every sense of the word. The boy totally lied about his past, saying that

he lived in a Miami ghetto when actually the sucker duck was maxxin in a

Dallas suburb. And what trips me out the most was that he practically had

the Top 40 (read: white) audience won, so much so that they were dishin

Dig 'Em Smacks (disses) to another sucker duck, MC Hammer (whom I don't like

either, but at least he didn't lie about his past.)

I have not got an inkling of respect for Vanilla Ice. Not because he's white,

(I used to dig 3rd Bass and the Beastie Boys) but because the boy has no

rhymes, he's lame, he's got no beat, the boy is just plain WACK. Period.

Apr 23 1991

This amazes me. Vanilla Ice is to rap music what Donny Osmond was to

rock and roll. In 5 years, V-Ice will be relegated to "whatever

became of..." on Entertainment Tonight. In 10 years, he will be a

footnote (if that) in the history of music. Even pop-rap like MC

Hammer is a million times classier than Ice's act. Ice is less than nothing - a complete fabrication, worthy of

the New Kids or Tiffany. He's the watered-down version of the

watered-down versions.

Every generation has its origintors and its pale (yes, both kinds)

imitators. I think that Vanilla Ice's closest analog would be Pat

Boone. In the fifties, Pat Boone covered r&b songs in the most

simpering, sad, pathetic way possible and racked in big bucks. In

fact, he was even a sex symbol for roughly the same demographic group

that Ice appeals to (little girls).

That's right, Vanilla Ice = Pat Boone.

Apr 27 1991

Can anybody really take Vanilla White seriously? You just have to laugh.

He says he came from the streets. Doesn't he come from Texas or Long

Island or something? The guy's a hypocrite through and through.

Apr 28 1991

If V-Ice ever tried to step in Stong-Island, he'd probably get shot (depending

on what part of the island) If I saw him, I'd throw every crack at him I know

and make up some as I went along. I think he's from Texas somewhere around

Whacksville (east of SuckerCity).

Apr 28 1991

Well, I was reading an article anout him the other day and the reporter

mentioned that White younger-teenaged, middle class, suburban girls were

his main audience by far. Almost exclusively so. In fact, he has the same

demographic appeal as New Kids On The Block (which is interesting in that

the New Kids took a primarily "Black" sound and repackaged it into

commercial pap, quite on purpose

May 7 1991

Vanilla Ice is no great talent, but since when has talent had anything to do

with popularity in any artistic medium? There are a million rock bands better

than Bon Jovi, a thousand TV shows better than America's Funniest Home Videos,

10 to the nth power movies with more artistic merit than Pretty Woman, but

guess what sells? Packaging and non-offensiveness (something that fits in

comfortably with the intended audience's world view) will get you a lot farther

than genius when it comes to raking in the bucks!

This has been accelerated

in music by the dominance of videos as a means of spreading new music. The

caucasian teenager/preadolescent female flipping through her family's cable

channels is going to be more likely to stop when she sees a conventionally

(i.e. like the guys in "MY" neighborhood) handsome youth on the screen, and

unless the singing is AWFUL she's going to stick around and "listen", but

really she's looking- do you notice that many pop bands have lyrics that are

undecipherable without the video? If there were no videos and it wasn't

apparent to the radio listener that Vanilla Ice was white and photogenic,

would his songs have attracted as much attention? Nyaah.

Caucasians

aren't evil or unique for reacting this way - I noticed an intense interest in

Wimbledon among African Americans who had never previously followed tennis

when Zena (gorgeous) Garrison played. BTW, the above comments are not an

excuse for the shameful way the music industry has exploited and continues to

exploit African American artists, and some of these factors are of no doubt an

important part of the Vanilla Ice popularity "puzzle", but it's not all of it.

Sandra Thomas

 

[P. Town]

This is classic like the Snoop Doggy Dogg one I posted earlier. LOL

Oct 9 1992

I was listening to a local radio station here in Baltimore earlier today
and I heard a beat that I want some information on. I don't know the name of
the song but it's on the movie soundtrack for "Deep Cover" and it's done by MC
Ren and a brother named Snoopy something or other.

Aug 11 1992

Has anyone out there got any info on 'Snoop Doggy Dogg'?, i saw him on
the Deep Cover video with Dre, hype style and dope lyrics.

Apr 6 1992

Hey has anyone heard anything about the "Deep Cover" soundtrack???
It's Bill Duke's new film staring Larry Fishburne. And I heard Dre of NWA
does the music. But what about jams?? Anyone know?

And also, I heard the soundtrack to "Looters" is going to be more of
a Ice Cube / Ice-T album, with equal songs from both (and one duet).

Jul 1 1992

one-eight-seven ?

anyone care to discipher
the meaning of this term. In Deep Cover with Dre and some new group
whose name escapes me, there's a really cool sounding line, but I have
no clue what the hell they're talking about.

Yeah, and ya don't stop.
Cause it's one-eight-seven on the undercover cop

Comedy.....

 

[Llahsram]

Jan 17 1994

the rebith of ****

what the **** is happening to the state of rap music today?! whatever

happenend to the days when rap music was a slamm'n beat that you could

kick yer head to. i'm sick of hearing these weak ass "jazz" beats with say

nothing lyrics. bring back the funky drummer beat. and lose those silly

french jazz beats.

 

[P. Town]

Bruh called Vanilla Ice a Sucker Duck though

 

[Llahsram]

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