Who handled rap beef the WORST?

[bck145]

Biggie and the east coast came away looking super weak from that beef.....no one responded to tupac and tupac had too much influence even on the east coast that it made a lot of new York rappers a running joke back then

@ the bolded. You obviously weren't hip to mix tapes in that era.

And Mobb Deep responded to Pac with Drop a Gem on Em. It was a single.

You've posted those mixtapes multiple times and each time you get the same response...they were weak as fuck.....drop a gem on em was lukewarm at best

But what I mean is biggie. Jayz. Nas....sort of forgot about Mobb deep

You're bugging if you think Doo Wop's mix tapes were "weak as fuck".

In fact, I can't take your opinion seriously. Wop had NYC on lockdown from 95-98 until DJ Clue took over in the late 90s and then Kay Slay from about 01-05. After Kay Slay the internet kind of replaced mix tapes as far as being the primary outlet for new music.

But yeah, white kids in the suburbs might have been getting their info from The Source and/or Yo! MTV Raps but Doo Wop tapes were like gold. They still are.

in fact, @bck145 name ONE Doo Wop tape from 95-98 that was "weak as fuck". Here's a link to most of his tapes from that era. I'll wait.
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-wop/

You just want one? 95live....new York wasn't putting out the quality back then....we've gone over this

Of course the tape has a song or two but for the most part...pretty terrible

 

[5 Grand]

Biggie and the east coast came away looking super weak from that beef.....no one responded to tupac and tupac had too much influence even on the east coast that it made a lot of new York rappers a running joke back then

@ the bolded. You obviously weren't hip to mix tapes in that era.

And Mobb Deep responded to Pac with Drop a Gem on Em. It was a single.

You've posted those mixtapes multiple times and each time you get the same response...they were weak as fuck.....drop a gem on em was lukewarm at best

But what I mean is biggie. Jayz. Nas....sort of forgot about Mobb deep

You're bugging if you think Doo Wop's mix tapes were "weak as fuck".

In fact, I can't take your opinion seriously. Wop had NYC on lockdown from 95-98 until DJ Clue took over in the late 90s and then Kay Slay from about 01-05. After Kay Slay the internet kind of replaced mix tapes as far as being the primary outlet for new music.

But yeah, white kids in the suburbs might have been getting their info from The Source and/or Yo! MTV Raps but Doo Wop tapes were like gold. They still are.

in fact, @bck145 name ONE Doo Wop tape from 95-98 that was "weak as fuck". Here's a link to most of his tapes from that era. I'll wait.
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-wop/

You just want one? 95live....new York wasn't putting out the quality back then....we've gone over this

Of course the tape has a song or two but for the most part...pretty terrible

You're Crazy. Datpiff voted 95 Live as the best mixtape ever. Here's the link;
http://www.datpiff.com/busta-Doo-Wop-Live-95-Voted-Best-Mixtape-Ever-mixtape.165315.html

 

[bck145]

Biggie and the east coast came away looking super weak from that beef.....no one responded to tupac and tupac had too much influence even on the east coast that it made a lot of new York rappers a running joke back then

@ the bolded. You obviously weren't hip to mix tapes in that era.

And Mobb Deep responded to Pac with Drop a Gem on Em. It was a single.

You've posted those mixtapes multiple times and each time you get the same response...they were weak as fuck.....drop a gem on em was lukewarm at best

But what I mean is biggie. Jayz. Nas....sort of forgot about Mobb deep

You're bugging if you think Doo Wop's mix tapes were "weak as fuck".

In fact, I can't take your opinion seriously. Wop had NYC on lockdown from 95-98 until DJ Clue took over in the late 90s and then Kay Slay from about 01-05. After Kay Slay the internet kind of replaced mix tapes as far as being the primary outlet for new music.

But yeah, white kids in the suburbs might have been getting their info from The Source and/or Yo! MTV Raps but Doo Wop tapes were like gold. They still are.

in fact, @bck145 name ONE Doo Wop tape from 95-98 that was "weak as fuck". Here's a link to most of his tapes from that era. I'll wait.
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-wop/

You just want one? 95live....new York wasn't putting out the quality back then....we've gone over this

Of course the tape has a song or two but for the most part...pretty terrible

You're Crazy. Datpiff voted 95 Live as the best mixtape ever. Here's the link;
http://www.datpiff.com/busta-Doo-Wop-Live-95-Voted-Best-Mixtape-Ever-mixtape.165315.html

Cool

 

[5 Grand]

@bck145 serious question. How old are you and do you remember the mixtape scene in the mid 90s?

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Bck is a white boy from the burbs. No one takes him seriously, why you arguing with him lol

 

[bck145]

@bck145 serious question. How old are you and do you remember the mixtape scene in the mid 90s?

I'm not going down this road.....that has nothing to do with the quality of the music

I could care less who had new York on lockdown...I don't care who sampled who....none of that shit matters

 

[5 Grand]

Bck is a white boy from the burbs. No one takes him seriously, why you arguing with him lol

Yeah anybody who says, "95 Live is weak as fuck" is irrelevant.

 

[bck145]

Bck is a white boy from the burbs. No one takes him seriously, why you arguing with him lol

Yeah @5grand why argue with me? Built 4 will tell ya...I've ran circles around him plenty of times....it doesn't end well

 

[IceBergTaylor]

Bck is a white boy from the burbs. No one takes him seriously, why you arguing with him lol

Bck is a white boy from the burbs. No one takes him seriously, why you arguing with him lol

Bck is a white boy from the burbs. No one takes him seriously, why you arguing with him lol

Bck is a white boy from the burbs. No one takes him seriously, why you arguing with him lol

 

[smp4life]

Biggie and the east coast came away looking super weak from that beef.....no one responded to tupac and tupac had too much influence even on the east coast that it made a lot of new York rappers a running joke back then

@ the bolded. You obviously weren't hip to mix tapes in that era.

And Mobb Deep responded to Pac with Drop a Gem on Em. It was a single.

You've posted those mixtapes multiple times and each time you get the same response...they were weak as fuck.....drop a gem on em was lukewarm at best

But what I mean is biggie. Jayz. Nas....sort of forgot about Mobb deep

You're bugging if you think Doo Wop's mix tapes were "weak as fuck".

In fact, I can't take your opinion seriously. Wop had NYC on lockdown from 95-98 until DJ Clue took over in the late 90s and then Kay Slay from about 01-05. After Kay Slay the internet kind of replaced mix tapes as far as being the primary outlet for new music.

But yeah, white kids in the suburbs might have been getting their info from The Source and/or Yo! MTV Raps but Doo Wop tapes were like gold. They still are.

in fact, @bck145 name ONE Doo Wop tape from 95-98 that was "weak as fuck". Here's a link to most of his tapes from that era. I'll wait.
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-wop/

And here we go again with Doo Wop. Fact is Pac was shitting on NYC on commercially released platinum records that EVERYONE could here. NYC responds by putting out tracks on mix tapes only NYC can hear. You can see how that is an L for NYC right? And Mobb Deep was too scared to say Pacs name on Drop a Gem on Em. Plus P begged to have his verse taken off of LA,LA. The Mobb didn't want it with the westcoast.

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Here we go with "they didn't say his name" bullshit. Everyone including pac knew they were talking about him. Who else got shot in quad and went to prison afterwards. Niggas dont use y'all heads lol

 

[StoneColdMikey]

Bck is a white boy from the burbs. No one takes him seriously, why you arguing with him lol

Bck is a white boy from the burbs. No one takes him seriously, why you arguing with him lol

Bck is a white boy from the burbs. No one takes him seriously, why you arguing with him lol

Bck is a white boy from the burbs. No one takes him seriously, why you arguing with him lol

 

[5 Grand]

Biggie and the east coast came away looking super weak from that beef.....no one responded to tupac and tupac had too much influence even on the east coast that it made a lot of new York rappers a running joke back then

@ the bolded. You obviously weren't hip to mix tapes in that era.

And Mobb Deep responded to Pac with Drop a Gem on Em. It was a single.

You've posted those mixtapes multiple times and each time you get the same response...they were weak as fuck.....drop a gem on em was lukewarm at best

But what I mean is biggie. Jayz. Nas....sort of forgot about Mobb deep

You're bugging if you think Doo Wop's mix tapes were "weak as fuck".

In fact, I can't take your opinion seriously. Wop had NYC on lockdown from 95-98 until DJ Clue took over in the late 90s and then Kay Slay from about 01-05. After Kay Slay the internet kind of replaced mix tapes as far as being the primary outlet for new music.

But yeah, white kids in the suburbs might have been getting their info from The Source and/or Yo! MTV Raps but Doo Wop tapes were like gold. They still are.

in fact, @bck145 name ONE Doo Wop tape from 95-98 that was "weak as fuck". Here's a link to most of his tapes from that era. I'll wait.
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-wop/

And here we go again with Doo Wop. Fact is Pac was shitting on NYC on commercially released platinum records that EVERYONE could here. NYC responds by putting out tracks on mix tapes only NYC can hear. You can see how that is an L for NYC right? And Mobb Deep was too scared to say Pacs name on Drop a Gem on Em. Plus P begged to have his verse taken off of LA,LA. The Mobb didn't want it with the westcoast.

Nonsense.

NYC was in a different stratosphere when all of this was going on. You'd really have to live in New York to understand what the vibe was like. New York had Hot 97 and 125th st along with Video Music Box while everybody else had Yo! MTV Raps and The Source. It was really a different world.

Remember that 2Pac interview when he said, "its like an election, I can lose New York and still win the other 49 states." Well, that's what happened. Cats in Idaho and Nebraska might have preferred Pac and Death Row but the 5 boroughs preferred that fast, uptempo flow with the metaphors, double entendres and alliteration with the mixtape DJ yelling over the track.

So I'll concede that from the perspective of a person in Nebraska it appeared that Pac was "shitting on New York". But cats who actually lived in New York didn't feel that way at all. In fact, from New York's perspective Pac went out like a sucker; he was walking around NYC at 4:00 in the morning with $60,000 worth of jewelry on and got robbed, went to prison and basically got run out of New York. Then instead of handling his business like a G he goes to a recording studio and makes a diss record. Why didn't he really get at Big and Puff instead of making diss records?

I know if I thought somebody robbed me I wouldn't go to the booth and diss him, I'd get my chain back...which Pac never did.

As far as I know Pac never got his jewelry back. Did he?

 

[bck145]

Biggie and the east coast came away looking super weak from that beef.....no one responded to tupac and tupac had too much influence even on the east coast that it made a lot of new York rappers a running joke back then

@ the bolded. You obviously weren't hip to mix tapes in that era.

And Mobb Deep responded to Pac with Drop a Gem on Em. It was a single.

You've posted those mixtapes multiple times and each time you get the same response...they were weak as fuck.....drop a gem on em was lukewarm at best

But what I mean is biggie. Jayz. Nas....sort of forgot about Mobb deep

You're bugging if you think Doo Wop's mix tapes were "weak as fuck".

In fact, I can't take your opinion seriously. Wop had NYC on lockdown from 95-98 until DJ Clue took over in the late 90s and then Kay Slay from about 01-05. After Kay Slay the internet kind of replaced mix tapes as far as being the primary outlet for new music.

But yeah, white kids in the suburbs might have been getting their info from The Source and/or Yo! MTV Raps but Doo Wop tapes were like gold. They still are.

in fact, @bck145 name ONE Doo Wop tape from 95-98 that was "weak as fuck". Here's a link to most of his tapes from that era. I'll wait.
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-wop/

And here we go again with Doo Wop. Fact is Pac was shitting on NYC on commercially released platinum records that EVERYONE could here. NYC responds by putting out tracks on mix tapes only NYC can hear. You can see how that is an L for NYC right? And Mobb Deep was too scared to say Pacs name on Drop a Gem on Em. Plus P begged to have his verse taken off of LA,LA. The Mobb didn't want it with the westcoast.

Nonsense.

NYC was in a different stratosphere when all of this was going on. You'd really have to live in New York to understand what the vibe was like. New York had Hot 97 and 125th st along with Video Music Box while everybody else had Yo! MTV Raps and The Source. It was really a different world.

Remember that 2Pac interview when he said, "its like an election, I can lose New York and still win the other 49 states." Well, that's what happened. Cats in Idaho and Nebraska might have preferred Pac and Death Row but the 5 boroughs preferred that fast, uptempo flow with the metaphors, double entendres and alliteration with the mixtape DJ yelling over the track.

So I'll concede that from the perspective of a person in Nebraska it appeared that Pac was "shitting on New York". But cats who actually lived in New York didn't feel that way at all. In fact, from New York's perspective Pac went out like a sucker; he was walking around NYC at 4:00 in the morning with $60,000 worth of jewelry on and got robbed, went to prison and basically got run out of New York. Then instead of handling his business like a G he goes to a recording studio and makes a diss record. Why didn't he really get at Big and Puff instead of making diss records?

I know if I thought somebody robbed me I wouldn't go to the booth and diss him, I'd get my chain back...which Pac never did.

As far as I know Pac never got his jewelry back. Did he?

So this huge ass country agrees on something and one city doesn't? That makes that one city look like the delusional people...not the other way around like your trying to twist it

Inb4 new York is where it started nonsense....I don't care...it's music and I'm judging quality of music all that other crap isn't relative

 

[Ether44mag]

50 cent's sociopathic ways led to the destruction of an entire coast. He's as close to Marlo rising to prominence on the wire as there is in hip hop. He wanted to be king of his house and destroy all in his path so much that he ended up burning the house down for his crown. Now his own city is struggling for an identity in hip hop(which I thought would never happen) and he himself barely has ground to stand on musically. Without power, 50's on a milk carton.

do people actually believe 50 is the reason new york rap fell off ?? hahaha dumb sheeps roll with anything that becomes popular even if it dont make sense smh HOW ??? HOW SWAY ??? someone explain that shit to me in an inteligent way ,yeah the idea sounds cool but it dont make no sense ,what happened was :

cash money ,young jeezy ,lil wayne, etc blew up and ringtones was makin a bunch of money so people copied the south ,If 50 ,fat joe,jadakiss and ja rule never beefed that still would of happened ,it was a new sound and people hopped on it thats it ! Now its that mumble rap shit taking over...trends change thats it smh

in 90-91 it was that quick rapping shit in the east and the west was dominating until ,wu tang ,bootcamp click ,Nas, mobb deep and biggie came around and shifted it back to new york...CYCLES...

 

[BenjaminE]

If Who Shot Ya wasn't a diss, then why compare the two?

 

[5 Grand]

Biggie and the east coast came away looking super weak from that beef.....no one responded to tupac and tupac had too much influence even on the east coast that it made a lot of new York rappers a running joke back then

@ the bolded. You obviously weren't hip to mix tapes in that era.

And Mobb Deep responded to Pac with Drop a Gem on Em. It was a single.

You've posted those mixtapes multiple times and each time you get the same response...they were weak as fuck.....drop a gem on em was lukewarm at best

But what I mean is biggie. Jayz. Nas....sort of forgot about Mobb deep

You're bugging if you think Doo Wop's mix tapes were "weak as fuck".

In fact, I can't take your opinion seriously. Wop had NYC on lockdown from 95-98 until DJ Clue took over in the late 90s and then Kay Slay from about 01-05. After Kay Slay the internet kind of replaced mix tapes as far as being the primary outlet for new music.

But yeah, white kids in the suburbs might have been getting their info from The Source and/or Yo! MTV Raps but Doo Wop tapes were like gold. They still are.

in fact, @bck145 name ONE Doo Wop tape from 95-98 that was "weak as fuck". Here's a link to most of his tapes from that era. I'll wait.
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-wop/

And here we go again with Doo Wop. Fact is Pac was shitting on NYC on commercially released platinum records that EVERYONE could here. NYC responds by putting out tracks on mix tapes only NYC can hear. You can see how that is an L for NYC right? And Mobb Deep was too scared to say Pacs name on Drop a Gem on Em. Plus P begged to have his verse taken off of LA,LA. The Mobb didn't want it with the westcoast.

Nonsense.

NYC was in a different stratosphere when all of this was going on. You'd really have to live in New York to understand what the vibe was like. New York had Hot 97 and 125th st along with Video Music Box while everybody else had Yo! MTV Raps and The Source. It was really a different world.

Remember that 2Pac interview when he said, "its like an election, I can lose New York and still win the other 49 states." Well, that's what happened. Cats in Idaho and Nebraska might have preferred Pac and Death Row but the 5 boroughs preferred that fast, uptempo flow with the metaphors, double entendres and alliteration with the mixtape DJ yelling over the track.

So I'll concede that from the perspective of a person in Nebraska it appeared that Pac was "shitting on New York". But cats who actually lived in New York didn't feel that way at all. In fact, from New York's perspective Pac went out like a sucker; he was walking around NYC at 4:00 in the morning with $60,000 worth of jewelry on and got robbed, went to prison and basically got run out of New York. Then instead of handling his business like a G he goes to a recording studio and makes a diss record. Why didn't he really get at Big and Puff instead of making diss records?

I know if I thought somebody robbed me I wouldn't go to the booth and diss him, I'd get my chain back...which Pac never did.

As far as I know Pac never got his jewelry back. Did he?

So this huge ass country agrees on something and one city doesn't? That makes that one city look like the delusional people...not the other way around like your trying to twist it

Inb4 new York is where it started nonsense....I don't care...it's music and I'm judging quality of music all that other crap isn't relative

Yes or No; Did Pac get his jewelry back?

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Biggie and the east coast came away looking super weak from that beef.....no one responded to tupac and tupac had too much influence even on the east coast that it made a lot of new York rappers a running joke back then

@ the bolded. You obviously weren't hip to mix tapes in that era.

And Mobb Deep responded to Pac with Drop a Gem on Em. It was a single.

You've posted those mixtapes multiple times and each time you get the same response...they were weak as fuck.....drop a gem on em was lukewarm at best

But what I mean is biggie. Jayz. Nas....sort of forgot about Mobb deep

You're bugging if you think Doo Wop's mix tapes were "weak as fuck".

In fact, I can't take your opinion seriously. Wop had NYC on lockdown from 95-98 until DJ Clue took over in the late 90s and then Kay Slay from about 01-05. After Kay Slay the internet kind of replaced mix tapes as far as being the primary outlet for new music.

But yeah, white kids in the suburbs might have been getting their info from The Source and/or Yo! MTV Raps but Doo Wop tapes were like gold. They still are.

in fact, @bck145 name ONE Doo Wop tape from 95-98 that was "weak as fuck". Here's a link to most of his tapes from that era. I'll wait.
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-wop/

And here we go again with Doo Wop. Fact is Pac was shitting on NYC on commercially released platinum records that EVERYONE could here. NYC responds by putting out tracks on mix tapes only NYC can hear. You can see how that is an L for NYC right? And Mobb Deep was too scared to say Pacs name on Drop a Gem on Em. Plus P begged to have his verse taken off of LA,LA. The Mobb didn't want it with the westcoast.

Nonsense.

NYC was in a different stratosphere when all of this was going on. You'd really have to live in New York to understand what the vibe was like. New York had Hot 97 and 125th st along with Video Music Box while everybody else had Yo! MTV Raps and The Source. It was really a different world.

Remember that 2Pac interview when he said, "its like an election, I can lose New York and still win the other 49 states." Well, that's what happened. Cats in Idaho and Nebraska might have preferred Pac and Death Row but the 5 boroughs preferred that fast, uptempo flow with the metaphors, double entendres and alliteration with the mixtape DJ yelling over the track.

So I'll concede that from the perspective of a person in Nebraska it appeared that Pac was "shitting on New York". But cats who actually lived in New York didn't feel that way at all. In fact, from New York's perspective Pac went out like a sucker; he was walking around NYC at 4:00 in the morning with $60,000 worth of jewelry on and got robbed, went to prison and basically got run out of New York. Then instead of handling his business like a G he goes to a recording studio and makes a diss record. Why didn't he really get at Big and Puff instead of making diss records?

I know if I thought somebody robbed me I wouldn't go to the booth and diss him, I'd get my chain back...which Pac never did.

As far as I know Pac never got his jewelry back. Did he?

So this huge ass country agrees on something and one city doesn't? That makes that one city look like the delusional people...not the other way around like your trying to twist it

Inb4 new York is where it started nonsense....I don't care...it's music and I'm judging quality of music all that other crap isn't relative

Yes or No; Did Pac get his jewelry back?

Nah he just went to the studio and started throwing temper tantrums over beats

 

[5 Grand]

Biggie and the east coast came away looking super weak from that beef.....no one responded to tupac and tupac had too much influence even on the east coast that it made a lot of new York rappers a running joke back then

@ the bolded. You obviously weren't hip to mix tapes in that era.

And Mobb Deep responded to Pac with Drop a Gem on Em. It was a single.

You've posted those mixtapes multiple times and each time you get the same response...they were weak as fuck.....drop a gem on em was lukewarm at best

But what I mean is biggie. Jayz. Nas....sort of forgot about Mobb deep

You're bugging if you think Doo Wop's mix tapes were "weak as fuck".

In fact, I can't take your opinion seriously. Wop had NYC on lockdown from 95-98 until DJ Clue took over in the late 90s and then Kay Slay from about 01-05. After Kay Slay the internet kind of replaced mix tapes as far as being the primary outlet for new music.

But yeah, white kids in the suburbs might have been getting their info from The Source and/or Yo! MTV Raps but Doo Wop tapes were like gold. They still are.

in fact, @bck145 name ONE Doo Wop tape from 95-98 that was "weak as fuck". Here's a link to most of his tapes from that era. I'll wait.
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-wop/

And here we go again with Doo Wop. Fact is Pac was shitting on NYC on commercially released platinum records that EVERYONE could here. NYC responds by putting out tracks on mix tapes only NYC can hear. You can see how that is an L for NYC right? And Mobb Deep was too scared to say Pacs name on Drop a Gem on Em. Plus P begged to have his verse taken off of LA,LA. The Mobb didn't want it with the westcoast.

Nonsense.

NYC was in a different stratosphere when all of this was going on. You'd really have to live in New York to understand what the vibe was like. New York had Hot 97 and 125th st along with Video Music Box while everybody else had Yo! MTV Raps and The Source. It was really a different world.

Remember that 2Pac interview when he said, "its like an election, I can lose New York and still win the other 49 states." Well, that's what happened. Cats in Idaho and Nebraska might have preferred Pac and Death Row but the 5 boroughs preferred that fast, uptempo flow with the metaphors, double entendres and alliteration with the mixtape DJ yelling over the track.

So I'll concede that from the perspective of a person in Nebraska it appeared that Pac was "shitting on New York". But cats who actually lived in New York didn't feel that way at all. In fact, from New York's perspective Pac went out like a sucker; he was walking around NYC at 4:00 in the morning with $60,000 worth of jewelry on and got robbed, went to prison and basically got run out of New York. Then instead of handling his business like a G he goes to a recording studio and makes a diss record. Why didn't he really get at Big and Puff instead of making diss records?

I know if I thought somebody robbed me I wouldn't go to the booth and diss him, I'd get my chain back...which Pac never did.

As far as I know Pac never got his jewelry back. Did he?

So this huge ass country agrees on something and one city doesn't? That makes that one city look like the delusional people...not the other way around like your trying to twist it

Inb4 new York is where it started nonsense....I don't care...it's music and I'm judging quality of music all that other crap isn't relative

Yes or No; Did Pac get his jewelry back?

Nah he just went to the studio and started throwing temper tantrums over beats

So if person A sets up person B to get robbed for his jewelry and person B goes to the studio and makes a diss record, while person A keeps the jewelry who is the winner?

 

[Paprika]

Biggie and the east coast came away looking super weak from that beef.....no one responded to tupac and tupac had too much influence even on the east coast that it made a lot of new York rappers a running joke back then

@ the bolded. You obviously weren't hip to mix tapes in that era.

And Mobb Deep responded to Pac with Drop a Gem on Em. It was a single.

You've posted those mixtapes multiple times and each time you get the same response...they were weak as fuck.....drop a gem on em was lukewarm at best

But what I mean is biggie. Jayz. Nas....sort of forgot about Mobb deep

You're bugging if you think Doo Wop's mix tapes were "weak as fuck".

In fact, I can't take your opinion seriously. Wop had NYC on lockdown from 95-98 until DJ Clue took over in the late 90s and then Kay Slay from about 01-05. After Kay Slay the internet kind of replaced mix tapes as far as being the primary outlet for new music.

But yeah, white kids in the suburbs might have been getting their info from The Source and/or Yo! MTV Raps but Doo Wop tapes were like gold. They still are.

in fact, @bck145 name ONE Doo Wop tape from 95-98 that was "weak as fuck". Here's a link to most of his tapes from that era. I'll wait.
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-wop/

And here we go again with Doo Wop. Fact is Pac was shitting on NYC on commercially released platinum records that EVERYONE could here. NYC responds by putting out tracks on mix tapes only NYC can hear. You can see how that is an L for NYC right? And Mobb Deep was too scared to say Pacs name on Drop a Gem on Em. Plus P begged to have his verse taken off of LA,LA. The Mobb didn't want it with the westcoast.

Nonsense.

NYC was in a different stratosphere when all of this was going on. You'd really have to live in New York to understand what the vibe was like. New York had Hot 97 and 125th st along with Video Music Box while everybody else had Yo! MTV Raps and The Source. It was really a different world.

Remember that 2Pac interview when he said, "its like an election, I can lose New York and still win the other 49 states." Well, that's what happened. Cats in Idaho and Nebraska might have preferred Pac and Death Row but the 5 boroughs preferred that fast, uptempo flow with the metaphors, double entendres and alliteration with the mixtape DJ yelling over the track.

So I'll concede that from the perspective of a person in Nebraska it appeared that Pac was "shitting on New York". But cats who actually lived in New York didn't feel that way at all. In fact, from New York's perspective Pac went out like a sucker; he was walking around NYC at 4:00 in the morning with $60,000 worth of jewelry on and got robbed, went to prison and basically got run out of New York. Then instead of handling his business like a G he goes to a recording studio and makes a diss record. Why didn't he really get at Big and Puff instead of making diss records?

I know if I thought somebody robbed me I wouldn't go to the booth and diss him, I'd get my chain back...which Pac never did.

As far as I know Pac never got his jewelry back. Did he?

So this huge ass country agrees on something and one city doesn't? That makes that one city look like the delusional people...not the other way around like your trying to twist it

Inb4 new York is where it started nonsense....I don't care...it's music and I'm judging quality of music all that other crap isn't relative

Yes or No; Did Pac get his jewelry back?

Nah he just went to the studio and started throwing temper tantrums over beats

So if person A sets up person B to get robbed for his jewelry and person B goes to the studio and makes a diss record, while person A keeps the jewelry who is the winner?

Person B solidifying their self as the best selling rapper and clowning everyone around them. Do you remember the Hit Em Up video?

What's a battle to the culmination and dominance of a war?