Who handled rap beef the WORST?

[bck145]

Biggie and the east coast came away looking super weak from that beef.....no one responded to tupac and tupac had too much influence even on the east coast that it made a lot of new York rappers a running joke back then

@ the bolded. You obviously weren't hip to mix tapes in that era.

And Mobb Deep responded to Pac with Drop a Gem on Em. It was a single.

You've posted those mixtapes multiple times and each time you get the same response...they were weak as fuck.....drop a gem on em was lukewarm at best

But what I mean is biggie. Jayz. Nas....sort of forgot about Mobb deep

You're bugging if you think Doo Wop's mix tapes were "weak as fuck".

In fact, I can't take your opinion seriously. Wop had NYC on lockdown from 95-98 until DJ Clue took over in the late 90s and then Kay Slay from about 01-05. After Kay Slay the internet kind of replaced mix tapes as far as being the primary outlet for new music.

But yeah, white kids in the suburbs might have been getting their info from The Source and/or Yo! MTV Raps but Doo Wop tapes were like gold. They still are.

in fact, @bck145 name ONE Doo Wop tape from 95-98 that was "weak as fuck". Here's a link to most of his tapes from that era. I'll wait.
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-wop/

And here we go again with Doo Wop. Fact is Pac was shitting on NYC on commercially released platinum records that EVERYONE could here. NYC responds by putting out tracks on mix tapes only NYC can hear. You can see how that is an L for NYC right? And Mobb Deep was too scared to say Pacs name on Drop a Gem on Em. Plus P begged to have his verse taken off of LA,LA. The Mobb didn't want it with the westcoast.

Nonsense.

NYC was in a different stratosphere when all of this was going on. You'd really have to live in New York to understand what the vibe was like. New York had Hot 97 and 125th st along with Video Music Box while everybody else had Yo! MTV Raps and The Source. It was really a different world.

Remember that 2Pac interview when he said, "its like an election, I can lose New York and still win the other 49 states." Well, that's what happened. Cats in Idaho and Nebraska might have preferred Pac and Death Row but the 5 boroughs preferred that fast, uptempo flow with the metaphors, double entendres and alliteration with the mixtape DJ yelling over the track.

So I'll concede that from the perspective of a person in Nebraska it appeared that Pac was "shitting on New York". But cats who actually lived in New York didn't feel that way at all. In fact, from New York's perspective Pac went out like a sucker; he was walking around NYC at 4:00 in the morning with $60,000 worth of jewelry on and got robbed, went to prison and basically got run out of New York. Then instead of handling his business like a G he goes to a recording studio and makes a diss record. Why didn't he really get at Big and Puff instead of making diss records?

I know if I thought somebody robbed me I wouldn't go to the booth and diss him, I'd get my chain back...which Pac never did.

As far as I know Pac never got his jewelry back. Did he?

So this huge ass country agrees on something and one city doesn't? That makes that one city look like the delusional people...not the other way around like your trying to twist it

Inb4 new York is where it started nonsense....I don't care...it's music and I'm judging quality of music all that other crap isn't relative

Yes or No; Did Pac get his jewelry back?

I don't know if he did or didnt....what I do know is he joined death row and made bad boy and everyone involved look like fools....well except for one city so you say that didn't notice haha

Pac went on to drop the greatest diss in hip hop history...drop the greatest double disc in hip hop history and 7 day theory which is another top 5 hip hop album

 

[5 Grand]

I don't know if he did or didnt....what I do know is he joined death row and made bad boy and everyone involved look like fools....well except for one city so you say that didn't notice haha

Really? Bad Boy looked like fools? Look at this clip and tell me who looked like the real fool

 

[bck145]

I don't know if he did or didnt....what I do know is he joined death row and made bad boy and everyone involved look like fools....well except for one city so you say that didn't notice haha

Really? Bad Boy looked like fools? Look at this clip and tell me who looked like the real fool

Bad boy

 

[Lefty_]

50 cent's sociopathic ways led to the destruction of an entire coast. He's as close to Marlo rising to prominence on the wire as there is in hip hop. He wanted to be king of his house and destroy all in his path so much that he ended up burning the house down for his crown. Now his own city is struggling for an identity in hip hop(which I thought would never happen) and he himself barely has ground to stand on musically. Without power, 50's on a milk carton.

do people actually believe 50 is the reason new york rap fell off ?? hahaha dumb sheeps roll with anything that becomes popular even if it dont make sense smh HOW ??? HOW SWAY ??? someone explain that shit to me in an inteligent way ,yeah the idea sounds cool but it dont make no sense ,what happened was :

cash money ,young jeezy ,lil wayne, etc blew up and ringtones was makin a bunch of money so people copied the south ,If 50 ,fat joe,jadakiss and ja rule never beefed that still would of happened ,it was a new sound and people hopped on it thats it ! Now its that mumble rap shit taking over...trends change thats it smh

in 90-91 it was that quick rapping shit in the east and the west was dominating until ,wu tang ,bootcamp click ,Nas, mobb deep and biggie came around and shifted it back to new york...CYCLES...

Yo, don't be dumb ya whole life.

 

[confucius_says]

Hands down meek handled the beef wrong. He took the first shoot in his beef with drake. Didn't put out a diss record until drake's second diss. The one he put out was luke warm. Cassidy got at him. Game got at him. When he responded to game, he got help from others on the first diss track. He already lost after that.

 

[aneed123]

Easily Rick Ross, that's the worst I've ever seen. It didn't have the same depth of an effect because Defjam was promoting him heavily. 50 showed you Ross was a CO, had Ross baby mother on thisis50, he made her write a tell all book about Ross, took her shopping with her kids, had Ross' kids at Mayweather house (while those 2 were beefing), she showed documents from child support court that Ross' cars and jewellery were rented except for his escalade that was like 6 years old and how Ross was too broke to pay the child support she wanted (2k a month). Just when you thought that was the worst it could get 50 dropped a sextape of Ross' other baby mother getting her back blown out as he narrated LOLOLOLOLOL and then another video on boobooTV of gunplay knocked out being dragged and disrespected. 50 did a great job exposing Ross as a deadbeat, to the point where I remember Game, Snoop, Jim Jones and Jarule were commenting on how Ross got it bad. Shit was funny af LOLOLOLOL.

That shit was funny af and the worst I have ever seen anyone get disrespected. You can say Jarule but Ja came at 50 on a street level, his only mistake was acknowledging Fif when he should have ignored him. Ross on the other hand was stupid and jaded SMMFH.

Ross beat him with better music and disses .... 50 had to pay that girl millions

 

[5 Grand]

Easily Rick Ross, that's the worst I've ever seen. It didn't have the same depth of an effect because Defjam was promoting him heavily. 50 showed you Ross was a CO, had Ross baby mother on thisis50, he made her write a tell all book about Ross, took her shopping with her kids, had Ross' kids at Mayweather house (while those 2 were beefing), she showed documents from child support court that Ross' cars and jewellery were rented except for his escalade that was like 6 years old and how Ross was too broke to pay the child support she wanted (2k a month). Just when you thought that was the worst it could get 50 dropped a sextape of Ross' other baby mother getting her back blown out as he narrated LOLOLOLOLOL and then another video on boobooTV of gunplay knocked out being dragged and disrespected. 50 did a great job exposing Ross as a deadbeat, to the point where I remember Game, Snoop, Jim Jones and Jarule were commenting on how Ross got it bad. Shit was funny af LOLOLOLOL.

That shit was funny af and the worst I have ever seen anyone get disrespected. You can say Jarule but Ja came at 50 on a street level, his only mistake was acknowledging Fif when he should have ignored him. Ross on the other hand was stupid and jaded SMMFH.

Ross beat him with better music and disses .... 50 had to pay that girl millions

Cosign. From when Ross came out until now he's been putting out better music than 50.

And I don't care if he used to be a C.O. It doesn't have anything to do with the quality of his music.

 

[Ether44mag]

50 cent's sociopathic ways led to the destruction of an entire coast. He's as close to Marlo rising to prominence on the wire as there is in hip hop. He wanted to be king of his house and destroy all in his path so much that he ended up burning the house down for his crown. Now his own city is struggling for an identity in hip hop(which I thought would never happen) and he himself barely has ground to stand on musically. Without power, 50's on a milk carton.

do people actually believe 50 is the reason new york rap fell off ?? hahaha dumb sheeps roll with anything that becomes popular even if it dont make sense smh HOW ??? HOW SWAY ??? someone explain that shit to me in an inteligent way ,yeah the idea sounds cool but it dont make no sense ,what happened was :

cash money ,young jeezy ,lil wayne, etc blew up and ringtones was makin a bunch of money so people copied the south ,If 50 ,fat joe,jadakiss and ja rule never beefed that still would of happened ,it was a new sound and people hopped on it thats it ! Now its that mumble rap shit taking over...trends change thats it smh

in 90-91 it was that quick rapping shit in the east and the west was dominating until ,wu tang ,bootcamp click ,Nas, mobb deep and biggie came around and shifted it back to new york...CYCLES...

Yo, don't be dumb ya whole life.

I said explain to me in an INTELLIGENT WAY...sayin 50 killed new york music is dumb ,Ja rule did not do new york type music his shit was commecial ,Fat Joe and Jadakiss did not stop makin hot music...Nas kept being Nas ,Fabolous too ...Jim jones held the flag for dipset ...so HOW did 50 make people stop listening to new york music ?? HOW ?

 

[5 Grand]

50 cent's sociopathic ways led to the destruction of an entire coast. He's as close to Marlo rising to prominence on the wire as there is in hip hop. He wanted to be king of his house and destroy all in his path so much that he ended up burning the house down for his crown. Now his own city is struggling for an identity in hip hop(which I thought would never happen) and he himself barely has ground to stand on musically. Without power, 50's on a milk carton.

do people actually believe 50 is the reason new york rap fell off ?? hahaha dumb sheeps roll with anything that becomes popular even if it dont make sense smh HOW ??? HOW SWAY ??? someone explain that shit to me in an inteligent way ,yeah the idea sounds cool but it dont make no sense ,what happened was :

cash money ,young jeezy ,lil wayne, etc blew up and ringtones was makin a bunch of money so people copied the south ,If 50 ,fat joe,jadakiss and ja rule never beefed that still would of happened ,it was a new sound and people hopped on it thats it ! Now its that mumble rap shit taking over...trends change thats it smh

in 90-91 it was that quick rapping shit in the east and the west was dominating until ,wu tang ,bootcamp click ,Nas, mobb deep and biggie came around and shifted it back to new york...CYCLES...

Yo, don't be dumb ya whole life.

I said explain to me in an INTELLIGENT WAY...sayin 50 killed new york music is dumb ,Ja rule did not do new york type music his shit was commecial ,Fat Joe and Jadakiss did not stop makin hot music...Nas kept being Nas ,Fabolous too ...Jim jones held the flag for dipset ...so HOW did 50 make people stop listening to new york music ?? HOW ?

I know what Lefty is saying. 50 beefed with everybody when he was at the top. As a result he made people pick sides. He had a lot of power at the time and could get people blacklisted. But over the years he lost his power and pretty much got himself blacklisted. His TV show is popular but he made a fool of himself in that Rick Ross beef. As a result he had to file chapter 11. That's arguably the worst way to handle a beef, to go bankrupt.

If there's anything to be learned from all of this is that beefing, in general, is stupid. It makes more sense to build alliances than to beef.

 

[Trollio]

Westside

 

[smp4life]

Biggie and the east coast came away looking super weak from that beef.....no one responded to tupac and tupac had too much influence even on the east coast that it made a lot of new York rappers a running joke back then

@ the bolded. You obviously weren't hip to mix tapes in that era.

And Mobb Deep responded to Pac with Drop a Gem on Em. It was a single.

You've posted those mixtapes multiple times and each time you get the same response...they were weak as fuck.....drop a gem on em was lukewarm at best

But what I mean is biggie. Jayz. Nas....sort of forgot about Mobb deep

You're bugging if you think Doo Wop's mix tapes were "weak as fuck".

In fact, I can't take your opinion seriously. Wop had NYC on lockdown from 95-98 until DJ Clue took over in the late 90s and then Kay Slay from about 01-05. After Kay Slay the internet kind of replaced mix tapes as far as being the primary outlet for new music.

But yeah, white kids in the suburbs might have been getting their info from The Source and/or Yo! MTV Raps but Doo Wop tapes were like gold. They still are.

in fact, @bck145 name ONE Doo Wop tape from 95-98 that was "weak as fuck". Here's a link to most of his tapes from that era. I'll wait.
http://www.f-yourmixtape.com/dj-doo-wop/

And here we go again with Doo Wop. Fact is Pac was shitting on NYC on commercially released platinum records that EVERYONE could here. NYC responds by putting out tracks on mix tapes only NYC can hear. You can see how that is an L for NYC right? And Mobb Deep was too scared to say Pacs name on Drop a Gem on Em. Plus P begged to have his verse taken off of LA,LA. The Mobb didn't want it with the westcoast.

Nonsense.

NYC was in a different stratosphere when all of this was going on. You'd really have to live in New York to understand what the vibe was like. New York had Hot 97 and 125th st along with Video Music Box while everybody else had Yo! MTV Raps and The Source. It was really a different world.

Remember that 2Pac interview when he said, "its like an election, I can lose New York and still win the other 49 states." Well, that's what happened. Cats in Idaho and Nebraska might have preferred Pac and Death Row but the 5 boroughs preferred that fast, uptempo flow with the metaphors, double entendres and alliteration with the mixtape DJ yelling over the track.

So I'll concede that from the perspective of a person in Nebraska it appeared that Pac was "shitting on New York". But cats who actually lived in New York didn't feel that way at all. In fact, from New York's perspective Pac went out like a sucker; he was walking around NYC at 4:00 in the morning with $60,000 worth of jewelry on and got robbed, went to prison and basically got run out of New York. Then instead of handling his business like a G he goes to a recording studio and makes a diss record. Why didn't he really get at Big and Puff instead of making diss records?

I know if I thought somebody robbed me I wouldn't go to the booth and diss him, I'd get my chain back...which Pac never did.

As far as I know Pac never got his jewelry back. Did he?

Anyone can be robbed. But Pac wasn't robbed by a rapper that was wearing his chain in public or nothing like that. So I don't see how this counts as "rap beef" frankly. When Wu-Tang got robbed in Vegas, who got their shit back for them? Pac! That's how a G handles shit. If Bad Boy was affiliated with those robbers in any way why couldn't they get Pac, their homie not from there, a pass? Because they didn't run shit. Please explain how Bad Boy won the beef w/o releasing any diss tracks. If his murder in Vegas is your answer then Bad Boy lost too when BIG got murdered.

 

[smp4life]

And fuck Doo Wop as a DJ, a staff, and as a motherfucking crew.

 

[smp4life]

Here we go with "they didn't say his name" bullshit. Everyone including pac knew they were talking about him. Who else got shot in quad and went to prison afterwards. Niggas dont use y'all heads lol

So tell me why didn't they say his name? I'll tell you. It's called plausible deniability. They wanted to diss Pac and also be able to deny dissing Pac if they needed that option. I'm a big Mobb Deep fan but they were never good at rap beef. Do they have any wins at all?

Mobb Vs. Saigon = L

Mobb Vs. Pac = L

Mobb Vs. Jay = L

Mobb Vs. Nas = L

Mobb Vs. Mobb = Littles dissed them and they Havoc and P went at each other = L

 

[5 Grand]

Anyone can be robbed. But Pac wasn't robbed by a rapper that was wearing his chain in public or nothing like that. So I don't see how this counts as "rap beef" frankly. When Wu-Tang got robbed in Vegas, who got their shit back for them? Pac! That's how a G handles shit. If Bad Boy was affiliated with those robbers in any way why couldn't they get Pac, their homie not from there, a pass? Because they didn't run shit. Please explain how Bad Boy won the beef w/o releasing any diss tracks. If his murder in Vegas is your answer then Bad Boy lost too when BIG got murdered.

They sold 30 million records in 1997

According to the RIAA, in 1997, Bad Boy sold over 30 million records in the U.S. alone;

• Can’t Nobody Hold Me Down (single) – Puff Daddy & Ma$e 4X Platinum

• Hypnotize (single) – Notorious B.I.G. – Platinum

• I’ll Be Missing You (single) – Puff Daddy & The Family – 3X Platinum

• Its All About The Benjamins (single) – Puff Daddy & The Family - Platinum

• Been Around The World (single) – Puff Daddy & The Family– 2X Platinum

• Life After Death (album) – Notorious B.I.G. 10X Platinum

• No Way Out (album) – Puff Daddy & The Family – 7X Platinum

• Harlem World (album) – Ma$e – 4X Platinum

 

[Shizlansky]

Anyone can be robbed. But Pac wasn't robbed by a rapper that was wearing his chain in public or nothing like that. So I don't see how this counts as "rap beef" frankly. When Wu-Tang got robbed in Vegas, who got their shit back for them? Pac! That's how a G handles shit. If Bad Boy was affiliated with those robbers in any way why couldn't they get Pac, their homie not from there, a pass? Because they didn't run shit. Please explain how Bad Boy won the beef w/o releasing any diss tracks. If his murder in Vegas is your answer then Bad Boy lost too when BIG got murdered.

They sold 30 million records in 1997

According to the RIAA, in 1997, Bad Boy sold over 30 million records in the U.S. alone;

• Can’t Nobody Hold Me Down (single) – Puff Daddy & Ma$e 4X Platinum

• Hypnotize (single) – Notorious B.I.G. – Platinum

• I’ll Be Missing You (single) – Puff Daddy & The Family – 3X Platinum

• Its All About The Benjamins (single) – Puff Daddy & The Family - Platinum

• Been Around The World (single) – Puff Daddy & The Family– 2X Platinum

• Life After Death (album) – Notorious B.I.G. 10X Platinum

• No Way Out (album) – Puff Daddy & The Family – 7X Platinum

• Harlem World (album) – Ma$e – 4X Platinum

Smh

Do you have Brain aneurysm?

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Here we go with "they didn't say his name" bullshit. Everyone including pac knew they were talking about him. Who else got shot in quad and went to prison afterwards. Niggas dont use y'all heads lol

So tell me why didn't they say his name? I'll tell you. It's called plausible deniability. They wanted to diss Pac and also be able to deny dissing Pac if they needed that option. I'm a big Mobb Deep fan but they were never good at rap beef. Do they have any wins at all?

Mobb Vs. Saigon = L

Mobb Vs. Pac = L

Mobb Vs. Jay = L

Mobb Vs. Nas = L

Mobb Vs. Mobb = Littles dissed them and they Havoc and P went at each other = L

Fail nice try tho, the song was broke as a tupac diss track period hence me telling you everyone knew who they were talking about. You casual Hip Hop fans are the worse. Lol y'all probably the type that didn't know nwa was dissing cube on real niggaz cause they didn't say his name either huh??? Smh

 

[Ether44mag]

50 cent's sociopathic ways led to the destruction of an entire coast. He's as close to Marlo rising to prominence on the wire as there is in hip hop. He wanted to be king of his house and destroy all in his path so much that he ended up burning the house down for his crown. Now his own city is struggling for an identity in hip hop(which I thought would never happen) and he himself barely has ground to stand on musically. Without power, 50's on a milk carton.

do people actually believe 50 is the reason new york rap fell off ?? hahaha dumb sheeps roll with anything that becomes popular even if it dont make sense smh HOW ??? HOW SWAY ??? someone explain that shit to me in an inteligent way ,yeah the idea sounds cool but it dont make no sense ,what happened was :

cash money ,young jeezy ,lil wayne, etc blew up and ringtones was makin a bunch of money so people copied the south ,If 50 ,fat joe,jadakiss and ja rule never beefed that still would of happened ,it was a new sound and people hopped on it thats it ! Now its that mumble rap shit taking over...trends change thats it smh

in 90-91 it was that quick rapping shit in the east and the west was dominating until ,wu tang ,bootcamp click ,Nas, mobb deep and biggie came around and shifted it back to new york...CYCLES...

Yo, don't be dumb ya whole life.

I said explain to me in an INTELLIGENT WAY...sayin 50 killed new york music is dumb ,Ja rule did not do new york type music his shit was commecial ,Fat Joe and Jadakiss did not stop makin hot music...Nas kept being Nas ,Fabolous too ...Jim jones held the flag for dipset ...so HOW did 50 make people stop listening to new york music ?? HOW ?

I know what Lefty is saying. 50 beefed with everybody when he was at the top. As a result he made people pick sides. He had a lot of power at the time and could get people blacklisted. But over the years he lost his power and pretty much got himself blacklisted. His TV show is popular but he made a fool of himself in that Rick Ross beef. As a result he had to file chapter 11. That's arguably the worst way to handle a beef, to go bankrupt.

If there's anything to be learned from all of this is that beefing, in general, is stupid. It makes more sense to build alliances than to beef.

what does that have to do with the music ? the style of music changed thats all ! the south started poppin and gangsta rap from the east was starting to become redundant ,who got blackballed ?? Fat Joe ?? Jadakiss ?? Fabolous ?? stop it *Shaq Voice* who got B;ackballed ?? certainly not Rick Ross Certainly not the Game who he had beef with so execpt Ja rule nobody suffered from 50 , most got more hype than they had before beefin with him

yeah ok maybe we missed on some Lloyd banks featuring the lox tracks or some 50 and fat joe joints but other than that it had nothing to do on why the south took over

 

[DR. JEK]

I say Biggie handled beef wit Pac the worse because if everyone knows you are lyrically superior to Tupac, it shoulda been nothing to drop something sorta like Nas's "Ether" song after hit em up came out. You coulda talked about so much from the jail shit to the fact he had you use your own beat for a diss to you, I mean they use to hang out so it's not like you don't know a lot about the nigga. A titan like Big who had the rap game on smash shoulda been able to go ham but instead he let Mobb and Cnn stand up for NYC when you the king and you the one got shat on the worse, it shoulda been you being the first mc responding. Him not made it look like NY was Willing to take an L.

 

[ChillaDaKilla]

I'm not understanding how Biggie handled it bad.

He virtually ignored Pac. Going to California was extremely stupid, but him getting killed was a matter of circumstances more than rap beef with a man that was already dead.

Cosign. Biggie handled it like a professional. He threw a few subliminals and kept it moving.

In the premise of this thread I'd say Biggie handled it better than Pac.

wonder why they call you bitch

 

[Lefty_]

50 cent's sociopathic ways led to the destruction of an entire coast. He's as close to Marlo rising to prominence on the wire as there is in hip hop. He wanted to be king of his house and destroy all in his path so much that he ended up burning the house down for his crown. Now his own city is struggling for an identity in hip hop(which I thought would never happen) and he himself barely has ground to stand on musically. Without power, 50's on a milk carton.

do people actually believe 50 is the reason new york rap fell off ?? hahaha dumb sheeps roll with anything that becomes popular even if it dont make sense smh HOW ??? HOW SWAY ??? someone explain that shit to me in an inteligent way ,yeah the idea sounds cool but it dont make no sense ,what happened was :

cash money ,young jeezy ,lil wayne, etc blew up and ringtones was makin a bunch of money so people copied the south ,If 50 ,fat joe,jadakiss and ja rule never beefed that still would of happened ,it was a new sound and people hopped on it thats it ! Now its that mumble rap shit taking over...trends change thats it smh

in 90-91 it was that quick rapping shit in the east and the west was dominating until ,wu tang ,bootcamp click ,Nas, mobb deep and biggie came around and shifted it back to new york...CYCLES...

Yo, don't be dumb ya whole life.

I said explain to me in an INTELLIGENT WAY...sayin 50 killed new york music is dumb ,Ja rule did not do new york type music his shit was commecial ,Fat Joe and Jadakiss did not stop makin hot music...Nas kept being Nas ,Fabolous too ...Jim jones held the flag for dipset ...so HOW did 50 make people stop listening to new york music ?? HOW ?

I know what Lefty is saying. 50 beefed with everybody when he was at the top. As a result he made people pick sides. He had a lot of power at the time and could get people blacklisted. But over the years he lost his power and pretty much got himself blacklisted. His TV show is popular but he made a fool of himself in that Rick Ross beef. As a result he had to file chapter 11. That's arguably the worst way to handle a beef, to go bankrupt.

If there's anything to be learned from all of this is that beefing, in general, is stupid. It makes more sense to build alliances than to beef.

what does that have to do with the music ? the style of music changed thats all ! the south started poppin and gangsta rap from the east was starting to become redundant ,who got blackballed ?? Fat Joe ?? Jadakiss ?? Fabolous ?? stop it *Shaq Voice* who got B;ackballed ?? certainly not Rick Ross Certainly not the Game who he had beef with so execpt Ja rule nobody suffered from 50 , most got more hype than they had before beefin with him

yeah ok maybe we missed on some Lloyd banks featuring the lox tracks or some 50 and fat joe joints but other than that it had nothing to do on why the south took over

You don't have to be blackballed to suffer from someone else's success. There's a such thing as market share, and what you do with it. The south took over because NY ain't have shit goin on in 2004-2005. That left a hole...

The south had been makin music. You actin like Master P just never existed, and Cash Money wasn't takin over for the 99 and 2000....Still, no real shift, Luda dropped back for the first time when I was 17.... Still a balance, After 50 crushed the buildings, and started beefin with everybody, instead of workin with niggas, nobody wanted to hear what NY niggas not named 50 had to say, their other biggest star at the time, Jay-Z wasn't droppin albums, that gave the south the opportunity it needed, and it knocked that shit out the park.

Here comes lil jon in 03 who had been around, but started to gain real momentum when 50 left a crater from wanting to hold the crown himself, here comes jeezy in 04, here comes the whole damn south about the time trap or die took over. About 2006 I started hearin niggas talkin about bringin NY back, but the damage was done..... You NY niggas answered with MIMS......Mims......Mims my nigga. Biggest song to come out of New York after 50 fucked up ya'll work was a southern anthem. Lean back....That's gotta hurt.