Men's Rights and Abortions?

[Chillin&Postin]

bet. you might be feeling down about it now.. but nigga u dodged a bullet better than NEO

yeah

tuff pain
but some months from now when you doin some shit that is adding up to much fun and rewards you will think to yourself "damn,good thing i didnt have that kid"

not sayin life ends at a child but it can severely limit opportunities in some cases

it literally took me 9 months to get over an incident,,but i am so happy it didnt happen at that time

 

[wackestrapper]

yeah

tuff pain

but some months from now when you doin some shit that is adding up to much fun and rewards you will think to yourself "damn,good thing i didnt have that kid"

not sayin life ends at a child but it can severely limit opportunities in some cases

it literally took me 9 months to get over an incident,,but i am so happy it didnt happen at that time

bruh it took me 30 minutes shit i was stressin like my life was over when i thought she was pregnant no tellin how i wuda been if she wuda had it..

real shit nigga when i hung dat phone up i hit my knees and thanked God cuz no matter what i always get through some shit no matter how bad i fucked up

 

[MeTaL]

she didnt have sex with him w/ no protection?

Confuse with what you said. What was trying to say may I ask? she didn't or did?

 

[Chillin&Postin]

I understand everything you said.
First, prevention should be practiced before a solution has to be made.
Second, two people who feel they are grown enough to engage in sex should have a relative discussion prior to developing a sexual relationship.
Third, to expect this from all who engage in sex is not realistic in our society. Unfortunate but true.

With that said, you haven't directly addressed the hypothetical rights of a man. If there were an actual law implemented where the man has an equal right to that life altering decision, how would it work if each party couldn't reach a common decision together?

prevention should be practiced,,but in most cases it is not and that is why they are having that talk now

of course we cant expect that but that is jus how i see it
i cant expect my brothers to stop calling themselves nigga and saggin they pants cuz hey,thats life

arbitration or counseling,,,ahhh,i think the word im lookin for is mediation

the same way there is custody hearings,marriage counseling and divorce court there should be a Un/Planned Parenthood Review Board where relationship history,financial stability,mental health and other factors can make a decision when there is a split decision

cant say that shit aint realistic ,,,cuz they doin it already with child custody and alimony cases

 

[fiat_money]

Ideally, if the father relinquishes his claims to the fetus early on in the pregnancy, he shouldn't be required to "support" it once/if it's born. A "termination of paternity" if you will.

However, it's more convenient to just make the father pay child support, so his "rights" aren't too relevant here.

 

[jonlakadeadmic]

Confuse with what you said. What was trying to say may I ask? she didn't or did?

well you said He had sex with Her

but they had sex with each other

 

[MeTaL]

well you said He had sex with Her

but they had sex with each other

Ok, yes they did, was confuse of your previous wording.

 

[Conscious__Nkechi]

prevention should be practiced,,but in most cases it is not and that is why they are having that talk now

of course we cant expect that but that is jus how i see it
i cant expect my brothers to stop calling themselves nigga and saggin they pants cuz hey,thats life

arbitration or counseling,,,ahhh,i think the word im lookin for is mediation

the same way there is custody hearings,marriage counseling and divorce court there should be a Un/Planned Parenthood Review Board where relationship history,financial stability,mental health and other factors can make a decision when there is a split decision

cant say that shit aint realistic ,,,cuz they doin it already with child custody and alimony cases

Right, mediation is the initial step to settling without the system involved in the final decision.
However, as we know, mediation fails much of the time. Two people firm in their beliefs and they happen to be the exact opposite beliefs. That isn't an easy thing to break just because a mediator is present.
With that said, let's say it does fail, what next? Taking it to court in front of a judge? Who will make that final decision if all else fails if it were to become a legal matter and how?

 

[Chillin&Postin]

Right, mediation is the initial step to settling without the system involved in the final decision.
However, as we know, mediation fails much of the time. Two people firm in their beliefs and they happen to be the exact opposite beliefs. That isn't an easy thing to break just because a mediator is present.
With that said, let's say it does fail, what next? Taking it to court in front of a judge? Who will make that final decision if all else fails if it were to become a legal matter and how?

if mediation fails,then fine,,take it to the courts

let it be on record how much of a fuck up someone is.
and i jus learned last week that folks is payin processing fees in child support cases welllll...let the fees for this abortion court be sky high so maybe that would persuade them to come to a mutual agreement

yes,,it think it has to go that far cuz most folks cant make good decisions unless the hand is forced

 

[D-Marco]

See I made a thread about this awhile back. Because this question gives me 2 answers. On one hand since we dont have to carry the seed, our only rights are prevention once its inside her, its on her. Thats the "intellectual answer" but in real life I feel its a decision that both parties should agree to but I also understand if niggas dont want to own up to their responsibilities the kids are the ones who suffer.

SO fuck the grimy Bm trying to keep a nigga and get CS. And fuck the lazy nigga not tryna to take care of a kid he made.

But I still think that women are more responsible for getting pregnant than men. If they let a nigga go raw they dont know if your gonna pull out or not. Its like giving a drunk nigga ur keys to drive ur car and blaming him for crashing. Like "niggas you gave the nigga the keys!"

 

[bluprint]

I'm against cs. Idon't think the gov should force you to take care of a child. If a parent doesn't want the child I say f***em and keep it movin.

you can give up parental rights if you don't want the child tho

 

[D-Marco]

I'm against cs. Idon't think the gov should force you to take care of a child. If a parent doesn't want the child I say f***em and keep it movin.

you can give up parental rights if you don't want the child tho

So you think its cool for niggas to not take care of their kids? As simple as it sounds, you dont want kids then dont bust in bitches.

 

[MsVShantrell]

I'm against cs. Idon't think the gov should force you to take care of a child. If a parent doesn't want the child I say f***em and keep it movin.

you can give up parental rights if you don't want the child tho

I definitely believe in child support. If a nigga wanna punk out and not actually help raise the child, the very minimum he can do is make the burden slightly easier for the mother to take care of their child. You should not be able to dodge some responsibility just because you don't feel like raising a child. If you are not in a position to have children or simply just don't want them a) dont have sex or b) make sure either you or the chick is sterile. The only 100% way to prevent pregnancy is by not having sex. If you wanna go out there and fuck like you grown you better know that you "enter" at your own risk.

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[kzzl]

Both parents of the child have a say in abortion. I feel if the father, or mother, decides to bounce they should pay child support or completely remove themselves from the child's life.

 

[lighthearted25]

women can walk away from kids too and actually do alot of times. why do u think they made that law about droppin babies off at firestations and hospitals. either way i feel like abortion is always the 1st thought after an accidental pregnancy when it should be a last resort and i personally went through this. it should be up to both parents except in special circumstances like if the mother was raped or has some health problems which cud cause her death if she carried full term.

 

[Dupac]

there's a lotta loss in these situations../

firstly i don't even fucks with abortion unless it's for health reasons....however that shit should go both ways...but i mean....even mistakes carry consequences...and sometimes we gotta live with them shits despite how unfavorable they may be....

my advise....don't be recklessly sexing chicks u know u don't want kids with under no circumstances....shit sounds extreme..but it's a far better alternative in case of the worse case scenario....

 

[Tha Killa]

Until I feel I'm financially and emotionally ready to father a child, as a good friend of mine suggested, I'll be drawing up a contract, and getting it notarized saying that if a woman decides to have a child against all of my protests, I will give up my parental rights to the child and will no longer be held responsible for a decision I had no say in anyway.

This contract will be signed by the other party before, during, or immediately after sexual intercourse so that it can be made painstakingly clear that I do NOT wish to be a father at this point in time. I only hope it never comes to this.

 

[desertrain10]

women will never be forced into having an abortion in the u.s..... so i'm for child support i don't think a child should have to suffer for the sins of their mothers or the stupidity/cowardice of their fathers

plus most single parents use government assistance programs so if the tax payers money is going towards the up keep of your child you should have to at least do something

at the end of the day this whole issue could be avoided by simply using protection men

 

[desertrain10]

Until I feel I'm financially and emotionally ready to father a child, as a good friend of mine suggested, I'll be drawing up a contract, and getting it notarized saying that if a woman decides to have a child against all of my protests, I will give up my parental rights to the child and will no longer be held responsible for a decision I had no say in anyway.

This contract will be signed by the other party before, during, or immediately after sexual intercourse so that it can be made painstakingly clear that I do NOT wish to be a father at this point in time. I only hope it never comes to this.

the contract can be overturned or dismissed by a judge if i'm not mistaken ....i read about a similar situation not to long ago. it might depend on the state though

 

[Purr]

Until I feel I'm financially and emotionally ready to father a child, as a good friend of mine suggested, I'll be drawing up a contract, and getting it notarized saying that if a woman decides to have a child against all of my protests, I will give up my parental rights to the child and will no longer be held responsible for a decision I had no say in anyway.

This contract will be signed by the other party before, during, or immediately after sexual intercourse so that it can be made painstakingly clear that I do NOT wish to be a father at this point in time. I only hope it never comes to this.

bro.

Cool story bro.