one_manshow;3180704 said:
Adds another country to the list that the U.S goes into and steals resources from...
i'm still trying to figure out what countries are on this list
kingblaze84;3182292 said:
I'm not anti-American and I never said America is always bad.
too tired to search for a good quote right now, but come on, this statement here seems very contrary to some of your most angry hyperbole
kingblaze84;3182292 said:
But I know the American govt is not on my side, it is on the side of corporations and big business. Everyone else is cannon fodder, ask yourself why the fed reserve gives trillions to big business at zero percent interest and why social security and other govt programs are about to get cut due to "low funding", lmao.
well, look, honestly, i'd rather talk about Libya in the Libya thread instead of the Fed in EVERY damn thread. but let me state this a different way: the point is that while it's perfectly fine and good and necessary to question the government and criticize the government, it makes your criticism suspect when your position is ALWAYS "the US is no good at all times." i can come back to my general "there is NO government free of selfish interests" sentiment if you like.
kingblaze84;3182292 said:
Our foreign policy is not much better, and I have little problem admitting that. It's no coincidence most Americans, 73%, think America is on the wrong track now. 73% dog.....73 fucking percent.
general statements like that don't mean much because you can have a left-wing progressive who hates war and a right-wing reactionary who hates Obama both telling you that "America is on the wrong track now" for reasons that are completely different and not necessarily related to foreign policy.
kingblaze84;3182292 said:
I'm not anti-American, I just know where my priorities are.....here at home.
i think this is why i've been saying that i get the argument of "i'd rather focus on the US than foreign nations with our dollars," but i don't get claiming there was NO reason to help in Libya.
kingblaze84;3182224 said:
I will say this though, Chavez and Ahmadinejad must be VERY nervous right now.
Chavez should, because even now he's taking current events as a reason to defend Gaddafi and rail against the US/NATO/whoever. for a man who claims to have all this respect for the people, he certainly seems to care much more about his buddy Gaddafi. i am not surprised.
also, i just want to point out that many people on this forum were ranting how we'd be at war with Iran YEARS ago. where are these posters now?