LOOKS LIKE ITS A WRAP FOR GHADAFFI (Tripoli falling, Qadaffi fleeing w/ sons?)

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you're right, a dictator's army slaughtering civilians is exactly the same issue as cops shooting Pookie from the block when he ran away because he had crack on him and prior convictions

same thing no problem real talk u mad nas lost
 
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@My_nameaintearl;3179487 said:
you're right, a dictator's army slaughtering civilians

yup...same thing, different Nation..The reasons vary depending on where you're at...Gaddaffi had a good run
 
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kingblaze84;3175472 said:
That money wouldv'e been better spent bailing out American cities and states, so NO I don't see any good reason to have wasted money on this damn war.
i guess i should repeat myself. "you might not like to spend the money for that reason as much as OTHER reasons --it's totally fine to prioritize-- but that's also not the same thing as "no good reason."" i admit that DID save me some time.

kingblaze84;3175472 said:
If you expect me to give American govt props for this, look for another poster.
i don't expect you to give America credit for anything, as your internet identity is 100% tied up in being an anti-American rebel. but shouldn't you want America to spend money fixing other countries since you're moving out of here as soon as you make those millions of dollars here in America?

kingblaze84;3175472 said:
I highly doubt Congress and the White House will get any major approval rating bumps from this but hey Gadafi is gone and yes he was a bad guy.
whoops, looks like you accidentally found that good reason

kingblaze84;3175476 said:
---I'd love it even more if my tax payer money was spent at home fixing problems like this.
i'd love it if you realized that we all understood your argument as stated

kingblaze84;3175837 said:
NATO offered to help, and America didn't have to get involved. I understand America is the backbone and spine of what NATO does around the world-
wait, do you? because you said we didn't have to get involved... but you also said we were the backbone of NATO...

kingblaze84;3175837 said:
Libya should have been handled by the rebels and rebels alone.
and if it could NOT have been, is the answer really "fuck the rebels, let Gaddafi beat them?"

because here is LITERALLY the argument you would be making right now if that happened: "see, America can get involved when they want to steal IRAQ'S OIL or AFGHANISTAN'S ... POMEGRANATES, but when they have a chance to do an unselfish thing, they let Gaddafi win. WHY DOESN'T AMERICA CARE ABOUT LIYBA?!"

kingblaze84;3175840 said:
And don't get me started on the real reason why we're over there......
you might as well run with the BLOOD FOR OIL internet thing because the actual steady theme between your posts on Libya is "America = always bad"
 
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lol @ them never really having his son.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...20095763.shtml

When asked about the ICC's claim that he was arrested by rebels, he said: "The ICC can go to hell," and added "We are going to break the backbone of the rebels."

At Bab al-Aziziya he shook hands with his supporters, who waved green flags and posters of his father. He blamed NATO for bringing rebels into the capital through the sea.

and

He claimed NATO and the West distorted Libyan communications.

"They sent text messages to the Libyan people through the Libyana network. They stopped our broadcast transmission. They perpetuated an electronic and media war in order to spread chaos and fear in Libya. Also they brought gangs from the sea and by car to Tripoli," Saif said.
 
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Adds another country to the list that the U.S goes into and steals resources from......scared to go into Iran and North Korea when both leaders have invited the U.S to come step foot soil on their countries turf but the invite was declined..reminds me of the bully in elementary school who wouldn't go close to the kids who were above 5"2.
 
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They don't want it with Iran and there is evidence to show this....Ahmadinejad will go down Scarface style if they go in there. There might be a Black Hawk Down pt 2 if they decide to in there.

The mission would be too costly as well.
 
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one_manshow;3180768 said:
They don't want it with Iran and there is evidence to show this....Ahmadinejad will go down Scarface style if they go in there. There might be a Black Hawk Down pt 2 if they decide to in there.

The mission would be too costly as well.

I agree, Iran would be way too costly. I don't see America attacking Iran unless a Republican gets elected president in 2012, and even than there won't be much appetite for a long war. If Romney, Bachmann, or Perry get elected, Iran will be bombed to hell, but only a few U.S. troops will get involved. Those troops will still be getting busy in Afghanistan, lol.

I will say this though, Chavez and Ahmadinejad must be VERY nervous right now.
 
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janklow;3180409 said:
i guess i should repeat myself. "you might not like to spend the money for that reason as much as OTHER reasons --it's totally fine to prioritize-- but that's also not the same thing as "no good reason."" i admit that DID save me some time.

i don't expect you to give America credit for anything, as your internet identity is 100% tied up in being an anti-American rebel. but shouldn't you want America to spend money fixing other countries since you're moving out of here as soon as you make those millions of dollars here in America?

whoops, looks like you accidentally found that good reason

i'd love it if you realized that we all understood your argument as stated

wait, do you? because you said we didn't have to get involved... but you also said we were the backbone of NATO...

and if it could NOT have been, is the answer really "fuck the rebels, let Gaddafi beat them?"

because here is LITERALLY the argument you would be making right now if that happened: "see, America can get involved when they want to steal IRAQ'S OIL or AFGHANISTAN'S ... POMEGRANATES, but when they have a chance to do an unselfish thing, they let Gaddafi win. WHY DOESN'T AMERICA CARE ABOUT LIYBA?!"

you might as well run with the BLOOD FOR OIL internet thing because the actual steady theme between your posts on Libya is "America = always bad"

I'm not anti-American and I never said America is always bad. There are many great things about this country, no one would deny that (ok maybe some would). But I know the American govt is not on my side, it is on the side of corporations and big business. Everyone else is cannon fodder, ask yourself why the fed reserve gives trillions to big business at zero percent interest and why social security and other govt programs are about to get cut due to "low funding", lmao. Why cant the govt give out those trillions to states and cities that REALLY need the money? Our govt is corrupt as fuck, come on man I know what's going on. **Jay-Z voice** you sound a little naive in them articles that you wrote

Our foreign policy is not much better, and I have little problem admitting that. It's no coincidence most Americans, 73%, think America is on the wrong track now. 73% dog.....73 fucking percent.

I'm not anti-American, I just know where my priorities are.....here at home.
 
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carry on...
 
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^lol ghaddafi been talking about that since the early 90's and little has happened....he talked one hell of a game but in reality was a fraud.........
most his props came from being anti-western.......
 
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Think what you like...building a gold currency to match the dollar and euro cannot be a simple task. Say what you want about ghaddafi, but he was more willing to work with Africans than any European or Arabic nation.
 
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MSNBC just reported that Ghadafi was on an arabic tv station vowing to fight NATO to the death.
 
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if gaddafi was so pro-black, why was he accepting money from berlusconi to help keep Africans out of Europe?

dude was a fraud and lots of fake afrocentrics online who get their worldview from youtube conspiracy videos are caping for him now that he's taking an L
 
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Berlusconi wanted illegals out of his nation and to stop coming in, since when is keeping illegals out of one's nation a bad thing lol
 
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one_manshow;3180704 said:
Adds another country to the list that the U.S goes into and steals resources from...
i'm still trying to figure out what countries are on this list

kingblaze84;3182292 said:
I'm not anti-American and I never said America is always bad.
too tired to search for a good quote right now, but come on, this statement here seems very contrary to some of your most angry hyperbole

kingblaze84;3182292 said:
But I know the American govt is not on my side, it is on the side of corporations and big business. Everyone else is cannon fodder, ask yourself why the fed reserve gives trillions to big business at zero percent interest and why social security and other govt programs are about to get cut due to "low funding", lmao.
well, look, honestly, i'd rather talk about Libya in the Libya thread instead of the Fed in EVERY damn thread. but let me state this a different way: the point is that while it's perfectly fine and good and necessary to question the government and criticize the government, it makes your criticism suspect when your position is ALWAYS "the US is no good at all times." i can come back to my general "there is NO government free of selfish interests" sentiment if you like.

kingblaze84;3182292 said:
Our foreign policy is not much better, and I have little problem admitting that. It's no coincidence most Americans, 73%, think America is on the wrong track now. 73% dog.....73 fucking percent.
general statements like that don't mean much because you can have a left-wing progressive who hates war and a right-wing reactionary who hates Obama both telling you that "America is on the wrong track now" for reasons that are completely different and not necessarily related to foreign policy.

kingblaze84;3182292 said:
I'm not anti-American, I just know where my priorities are.....here at home.
i think this is why i've been saying that i get the argument of "i'd rather focus on the US than foreign nations with our dollars," but i don't get claiming there was NO reason to help in Libya.

kingblaze84;3182224 said:
I will say this though, Chavez and Ahmadinejad must be VERY nervous right now.
Chavez should, because even now he's taking current events as a reason to defend Gaddafi and rail against the US/NATO/whoever. for a man who claims to have all this respect for the people, he certainly seems to care much more about his buddy Gaddafi. i am not surprised.

also, i just want to point out that many people on this forum were ranting how we'd be at war with Iran YEARS ago. where are these posters now?
 
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