G.Avant;6332944 said:
judahxulu;6330492 said:
blackrain;6330403 said:
judahxulu;6330108 said:
ohhhla;6330000 said:
K-Dot is the best young nigga out.
I dunno how he's wack.
he's not wack in most categories of raw skill but he rambles, his ideas are disjointed, he's very negative with his content, his whole schtick is contrived, the voices get annoying, not only does he have an overwhelming amount of negative content but its very shallow and immature... hooks are hella weak... i overlooked all that just waiting cause every artist needs time to mature..but this control thing just disgusted me... its so contrived and pseudo... at least on section 80 he came off kinda genuine... more and more its like he was making great effort to appear genuine but not so. now he just cause off like an egocentric douchebag and a timid nigga tryna chest puff and hide behind literary device excuses and industry heads with a financial interest
Do you actually listen to his music? Negative content? His first hit record is a song that's about not drinking yourself retarded. How is that a bad thing?
Yes I do. You dont. That is not about NOT drinking yourself retarded. Its open ended. And he still is fucking drunk in the song. This is my exact point. A nigga describing a problem but at the end of the story he's still doing it is negative content. Why in the fuck would a mainstream media outlet that has stake in Seagrams make an ANTI-DRINKING song. That shit is shallow. THIS is a clear cut message:
There is no room to interpret glorification of alcohol consumption. And they aint backed by the same mufucka who backed "Gin and Juice" which "coincidentally" mentions Seagrams gin by name. Expand your mind past that "hater" block..everybody who offers critique is not just pulling it out their ass. But seeing the game past what is put in your face requires common sense and just plain life game...wisdom
Who's gonna actually hear that Dead Prez shit you posted though lets be real? If you really trying to male an impact and get your message out to those that need to hear it you going to need to be skilled at slipping the medicine into the candy. Package your shit so that it has mainstream appeal and appeals to those in the negativity so your message can reach more people. Most conscious MCs are actually causing very little to change because they only preach to the choir, they fan base are mostly those who already consider themselves conscious and they either think they too good to try to appeal to the masses or just don't understand that the ends justifies the means. If you really about change do whatever you need to do to reach as many people as possible. This is a nigga like Lupe problem. I really realized Kendrick was that dude when he was able to put that message into a club track like that.
plenty of people. yall need to overstand that rap makes more money outside of the u.s. when it comes to unit sales and shows. most conscious emcees are inffective because they offer no solution. thats the part that gives a "conscious" undertone to k-dots shit...he describes problems well.
if you are trying to deliver a message, mainstream appeal is not what is needed in 2013. to get mainstream appeal you need industry dollars behind you. when you have industry dollars behind you they are not going to allow you to say the most pivotal things. ex: how rapeover was censored offa mos defs joint..
mainstream appeal usually means that you trading influence for debt in an extended plan to make that money back in shows, unit sales and alligning yourself with products under the same corporate umbrella. theres no way you will be able to be in those circles and say things to challenge it. the bottom line is these people making money offa selling black people vice and selling non-blacks vicarious vice through different shades of the "nigga experience".
it just depends on what you want most and whether what you paying in is worth the payoff.
most conscious emcees dont so shit because there allways going for that mainstream appeal.
you got lupe twisted. just because the label is fucking with him does not make him ineffective. it just depend on what you calling effective. lupe, not too long ago, did a project with my brother on the southside of chicago serving vegan soul food to people in the hood. thats effective.
kendrick is doing him. i aint mad at that but lets keep it 1000... he aint bout nothing but him and his crew. and his content is "control"ed.
lupe got that oversea show money tho because they like straightforward positive or densely intelligent material...
kendrick getting it too because his stuff sounds "different" but not as much cause he aint established as anti-establishment if that makes sense.
look at all the highest paid rappers on the forbes list. how many of them niggas got money in ALCOHOL and CLUBS... that vice money. you can have hella mainstream appeal but they not giving you tall bread unless you selling their shit. selling their culture.
