Has Kendrick Lamar lowkey surpassed Drake in hip hop stardom?

[aneed123]

The 2 shouldn't be compared at this point. Both have different ambitions. Kendrick wants to be the best rapper, Drake wants to be the best entertainer. Drake about that bag, Kendrick about the integrity.

Kendrick Lamar isn't as big as Drake in terms of stardom but that doesn't mean he can't surpass him in the near Future. In 2000/2001 it was farfetched ​to believe Jay-Z could surpass DMX and today look at how their careers stack up to one another. Shit it's possible Wale could come out the woodworks and surpass everyone and one day become the GOAT rapper. I mean it's not like anyone saw Pac coming amongst the Snoops, LLs, Wu-Tang, Ice Cubes, Ice T, Hammer, Heavy Ds, Scarfaces, or Busta Rhymes of the time..... No way in hell could anyone have predicted that the dancer from Digital Underground would become "2Pac" as we came to know him...

Slim I swear you be having the most revisionist history on this bitch.

Jay at worst was on the same level as X back then.

TF you be coming up with this shit.

Stop it negro, I remember that era clear as day. X was multi platinum off 2 albums in one year and sold like 12 million records in the span of the same year. Then the year after did like 8 million. No doubt Jay was dope but Hov was NOT the Hov we look at and praise now in 99/2000. Jay just got his first major album and became a household name. X was already there 98/99.

Hell if you said in 96 even that Jay would be hailed the GOAT in the same tier as Big, Pac, Heavy D, Wu-Tang, NaS etc. Niggas would have laughed at you. It's not always easy to tell. I remember when DMX was supposed to be the next Pac and end up being bigger than him. And look at X today.

I guess the 18 million records Jay sold worldwide over the same time period ain't shit.

Log off b.

He right tho. X was hotter at that time and Jay was a after thought in 96....

 

[Ghostdenithegawd]

key point to the question...."in HIP HOP stardom"

 

[its....JOHN B]

The 2 shouldn't be compared at this point. Both have different ambitions. Kendrick wants to be the best rapper, Drake wants to be the best entertainer. Drake about that bag, Kendrick about the integrity.

Kendrick Lamar isn't as big as Drake in terms of stardom but that doesn't mean he can't surpass him in the near Future. In 2000/2001 it was farfetched ​to believe Jay-Z could surpass DMX and today look at how their careers stack up to one another. Shit it's possible Wale could come out the woodworks and surpass everyone and one day become the GOAT rapper. I mean it's not like anyone saw Pac coming amongst the Snoops, LLs, Wu-Tang, Ice Cubes, Ice T, Hammer, Heavy Ds, Scarfaces, or Busta Rhymes of the time..... No way in hell could anyone have predicted that the dancer from Digital Underground would become "2Pac" as we came to know him...

Slim I swear you be having the most revisionist history on this bitch.

Jay at worst was on the same level as X back then.

TF you be coming up with this shit.

Stop it negro, I remember that era clear as day. X was multi platinum off 2 albums in one year and sold like 12 million records in the span of the same year. Then the year after did like 8 million. No doubt Jay was dope but Hov was NOT the Hov we look at and praise now in 99/2000. Jay just got his first major album and became a household name. X was already there 98/99.

Hell if you said in 96 even that Jay would be hailed the GOAT in the same tier as Big, Pac, Heavy D, Wu-Tang, NaS etc. Niggas would have laughed at you. It's not always easy to tell. I remember when DMX was supposed to be the next Pac and end up being bigger than him. And look at X today.

I guess the 18 million records Jay sold worldwide over the same time period ain't shit.

Log off b.

He right tho. X was hotter at that time and Jay was a after thought in 96....

00/01 Jay was bigger overall, 98 through 00 X was bigger

 

[its....JOHN B]

Remember the comment "if I'm not better than Big I'm the closest one" well people were believing him in that time frame, by 2001 the Great Depression wasn't really getting no love but the Blueprint...well I don't have to explain

 

[its....JOHN B]

And you're wrong about Ja Rule too

 

[aneed123]

Remember the comment "if I'm not better than Big I'm the closest one" well people were believing him in that time frame, by 2001 the Great Depression wasn't really getting no love but the Blueprint...well I don't have to explain

So u agreeing... Jay ain't surpass him til 01...If pac nas big had 94-97 the dmx had 98-00...

 

[PanchoYoSancho]

We getting off topic as hell (why wouldn't we), but anyone acting like Jay wasn't in DMX's league in terms of popularity in the late 90's is out their minds or got revisionist history. X was huge and I'd give him 98/99, but Jay wasn't far behind. The streets was fucking with X more and he had a more loyal fanbase back then, but Jay had more commercial appeal. Vol. 2 outsold any album DMX ever had (even tho X stole the show off 1 feature).

 

[Revolver Ocelot]

The 2 shouldn't be compared at this point. Both have different ambitions. Kendrick wants to be the best rapper, Drake wants to be the best entertainer. Drake about that bag, Kendrick about the integrity.

Kendrick Lamar isn't as big as Drake in terms of stardom but that doesn't mean he can't surpass him in the near Future. In 2000/2001 it was farfetched ​to believe Jay-Z could surpass DMX and today look at how their careers stack up to one another. Shit it's possible Wale could come out the woodworks and surpass everyone and one day become the GOAT rapper. I mean it's not like anyone saw Pac coming amongst the Snoops, LLs, Wu-Tang, Ice Cubes, Ice T, Hammer, Heavy Ds, Scarfaces, or Busta Rhymes of the time..... No way in hell could anyone have predicted that the dancer from Digital Underground would become "2Pac" as we came to know him...

Slim I swear you be having the most revisionist history on this bitch.

Jay at worst was on the same level as X back then.

TF you be coming up with this shit.

Stop it negro, I remember that era clear as day. X was multi platinum off 2 albums in one year and sold like 12 million records in the span of the same year. Then the year after did like 8 million. No doubt Jay was dope but Hov was NOT the Hov we look at and praise now in 99/2000. Jay just got his first major album and became a household name. X was already there 98/99.

Hell if you said in 96 even that Jay would be hailed the GOAT in the same tier as Big, Pac, Heavy D, Wu-Tang, NaS etc. Niggas would have laughed at you. It's not always easy to tell. I remember when DMX was supposed to be the next Pac and end up being bigger than him. And look at X today.

I guess the 18 million records Jay sold worldwide over the same time period ain't shit.

Log off b.

He right tho. X was hotter at that time and Jay was a after thought in 96....

Guess that Sion-itis is spreading.

X was hotter than Jay in 96 even tho no one even heard of him til 54321 or Money,Power, Respect both of which was released AFTER 96.

X was hotter than Jay in 96 even tho Jay had 2 hits in Ain't No Nigga and Can't Knock the Hustle and a Gold selling single in Dead Presidents.

X was hotter than Jay in 96 even tho Jay dropped Reasonable Doubt that got critical praise, went Gold, and had features from to of the biggest artist in there respective genre ( Mary J & Big ) at the time. While X wouldn't release his album for damn near 2 FUCKING YEARS.

Folks wanna criticize white Em fans for being part-time hip hop fans and not knowing anything about hip hop...... then niggas type this bullshit. SMH

 

[Listencloser]

The 2 shouldn't be compared at this point. Both have different ambitions. Kendrick wants to be the best rapper, Drake wants to be the best entertainer. Drake about that bag, Kendrick about the integrity.

Kendrick Lamar isn't as big as Drake in terms of stardom but that doesn't mean he can't surpass him in the near Future. In 2000/2001 it was farfetched ​to believe Jay-Z could surpass DMX and today look at how their careers stack up to one another. Shit it's possible Wale could come out the woodworks and surpass everyone and one day become the GOAT rapper. I mean it's not like anyone saw Pac coming amongst the Snoops, LLs, Wu-Tang, Ice Cubes, Ice T, Hammer, Heavy Ds, Scarfaces, or Busta Rhymes of the time..... No way in hell could anyone have predicted that the dancer from Digital Underground would become "2Pac" as we came to know him...

Slim I swear you be having the most revisionist history on this bitch.

Jay at worst was on the same level as X back then.

TF you be coming up with this shit.

Stop it negro, I remember that era clear as day. X was multi platinum off 2 albums in one year and sold like 12 million records in the span of the same year. Then the year after did like 8 million. No doubt Jay was dope but Hov was NOT the Hov we look at and praise now in 99/2000. Jay just got his first major album and became a household name. X was already there 98/99.

Hell if you said in 96 even that Jay would be hailed the GOAT in the same tier as Big, Pac, Heavy D, Wu-Tang, NaS etc. Niggas would have laughed at you. It's not always easy to tell. I remember when DMX was supposed to be the next Pac and end up being bigger than him. And look at X today.

You are sadly mistaken. Vol 2 and IDAHIH both came out 1998, made both of them super stars and did about the same crazy numbers.

 

[Revolver Ocelot]

The 2 shouldn't be compared at this point. Both have different ambitions. Kendrick wants to be the best rapper, Drake wants to be the best entertainer. Drake about that bag, Kendrick about the integrity.

Kendrick Lamar isn't as big as Drake in terms of stardom but that doesn't mean he can't surpass him in the near Future. In 2000/2001 it was farfetched ​to believe Jay-Z could surpass DMX and today look at how their careers stack up to one another. Shit it's possible Wale could come out the woodworks and surpass everyone and one day become the GOAT rapper. I mean it's not like anyone saw Pac coming amongst the Snoops, LLs, Wu-Tang, Ice Cubes, Ice T, Hammer, Heavy Ds, Scarfaces, or Busta Rhymes of the time..... No way in hell could anyone have predicted that the dancer from Digital Underground would become "2Pac" as we came to know him...

Slim I swear you be having the most revisionist history on this bitch.

Jay at worst was on the same level as X back then.

TF you be coming up with this shit.

Stop it negro, I remember that era clear as day. X was multi platinum off 2 albums in one year and sold like 12 million records in the span of the same year. Then the year after did like 8 million. No doubt Jay was dope but Hov was NOT the Hov we look at and praise now in 99/2000. Jay just got his first major album and became a household name. X was already there 98/99.

Hell if you said in 96 even that Jay would be hailed the GOAT in the same tier as Big, Pac, Heavy D, Wu-Tang, NaS etc. Niggas would have laughed at you. It's not always easy to tell. I remember when DMX was supposed to be the next Pac and end up being bigger than him. And look at X today.

You are sadly mistaken. Vol 2 and IDAHIH came out the same year, made both of them super stars and did about the same numbers.

Shhhh....... nah nigga we the ones that's crazy. X was a megastar and niggas everywhere were like "who da fuck is a Jay-Z".

 

[Listencloser]

The 2 shouldn't be compared at this point. Both have different ambitions. Kendrick wants to be the best rapper, Drake wants to be the best entertainer. Drake about that bag, Kendrick about the integrity.

Kendrick Lamar isn't as big as Drake in terms of stardom but that doesn't mean he can't surpass him in the near Future. In 2000/2001 it was farfetched ​to believe Jay-Z could surpass DMX and today look at how their careers stack up to one another. Shit it's possible Wale could come out the woodworks and surpass everyone and one day become the GOAT rapper. I mean it's not like anyone saw Pac coming amongst the Snoops, LLs, Wu-Tang, Ice Cubes, Ice T, Hammer, Heavy Ds, Scarfaces, or Busta Rhymes of the time..... No way in hell could anyone have predicted that the dancer from Digital Underground would become "2Pac" as we came to know him...

Slim I swear you be having the most revisionist history on this bitch.

Jay at worst was on the same level as X back then.

TF you be coming up with this shit.

Stop it negro, I remember that era clear as day. X was multi platinum off 2 albums in one year and sold like 12 million records in the span of the same year. Then the year after did like 8 million. No doubt Jay was dope but Hov was NOT the Hov we look at and praise now in 99/2000. Jay just got his first major album and became a household name. X was already there 98/99.

Hell if you said in 96 even that Jay would be hailed the GOAT in the same tier as Big, Pac, Heavy D, Wu-Tang, NaS etc. Niggas would have laughed at you. It's not always easy to tell. I remember when DMX was supposed to be the next Pac and end up being bigger than him. And look at X today.

You are sadly mistaken. Vol 2 and IDAHIH came out the same year, made both of them super stars and did about the same numbers.

Shhhh....... nah nigga we the ones that's crazy. X was a megastar and niggas everywhere were like "who da fuck is a Jay-Z".

Let's not forget Nas had 2 commercial successes in 99 ,J Rule stormed the scene with VVV. Nore was pumping out hits, Joe and Pun both went plat and Red and Meth was hitting. NY was just at peak commercial position at the time.

 

[Listencloser]

No one could have predicted Jay-Z of all rappers would be where he is today at the forefront of rap music and popular culture. I don't understand why that's so hard to comprehend.

At what point are we talking? I've been fucking with Jay since Reasonable Doubt. I never considered him better than his contemporaries at any era though. He was a consistent hit maker with some clever lines and an ear for production.

 

[Revolver Ocelot]

No one could have predicted Jay-Z of all rappers would be where he is today at the forefront of rap music and popular culture. I don't understand why that's so hard to comprehend.

Jay has pretty much been at the forefront of rap music and popular culture since Vol. 2 dropped. Has he shared that spotlight through out years with others (X,Ja,Em,Nelly,TI,50,Kanye,Kast,Wayne,or Drake)? Absolutely, but you acting like Jay was just in the background and an afterthought til 03/04 which is bullshit.

 

[Listencloser]

No one could have predicted Jay-Z of all rappers would be where he is today at the forefront of rap music and popular culture. I don't understand why that's so hard to comprehend.

Jay has pretty much been at the forefront of rap music and popular culture since Vol. 2 dropped. Has he shared that spotlight through out years with others (X,Ja,Em,Nelly,TI,50,Kanye,Kast,Wayne,or Drake)? Absolutely, but you acting like Jay was just in the background and an afterthought til 03/04 which is bullshit.

TI was never considered a contemporary though. I'd put Nas, Juvenile and Ludacris though. Has Drake hit 4 plat?

 

[Revolver Ocelot]

No one could have predicted Jay-Z of all rappers would be where he is today at the forefront of rap music and popular culture. I don't understand why that's so hard to comprehend.

Jay has pretty much been at the forefront of rap music and popular culture since Vol. 2 dropped. Has he shared that spotlight through out years with others (X,Ja,Em,Nelly,TI,50,Kanye,Kast,Wayne,or Drake)? Absolutely, but you acting like Jay was just in the background and an afterthought til 03/04 which is bullshit.

TI was never considered a contemporary though. I'd put Nas, Juvenile and Ludacris though. Has Drake hit 4 plat?

Nah TI was up there, from Urban Legend to Paper Trail he was up there. Shit wasn't they calling him the south's Jay-Z.

 

[Listencloser]

Naw he was Fabolous status. Plenty rappers went platinum but only the commercial big dogs went trip or quad.

 

[StoneColdMikey]

Naw he was Fabolous status. Plenty rappers went platinum but only the commercial big dogs went trip or quad.

Songs like bring em out, what you know, whatever you like, big things poppin, and live your life AND dead and gone are all hits. Fabulous wish he could had a run like TI.

 

[its....JOHN B]

No one could have predicted Jay-Z of all rappers would be where he is today at the forefront of rap music and popular culture. I don't understand why that's so hard to comprehend.

Just admit you're wrong dog, so when

Big pimpin

Can I get a

I just wanna love you

Hard knock life

Jigga my nigga

Girls best friend

Anything

Hey Papi

Guilty until proven innocent

Is that your bitch

Hard knock life

Nigga what nigga who

And multiple features (holla holla, minute man, best of me, heartbreaker) and I know I'm missing some but nobody could see him at the forefront in that time frame? Really?

 

[Revolver Ocelot]

Naw he was Fabolous status. Plenty rappers went platinum but only the commercial big dogs went trip or quad.

TI went plat or double plat 5 straight albums with 16 top 20 Rap hits(10 of which were top 5 ) from said albums.

Dawg, he was up there.

 

[gns]

The nigga TI was going gold in a week consistently but he wasnt up there, wow