Kendrick Lamar Dropped Another Control Verse In The BET Cypher

[ohhhla]

WTF are y'all talking about he rambles?

 

[LUClEN]

Humans are inherently shallow.

 

[judahxulu]

WTF are y'all talking about he rambles?

meaning he often uses filler in the form of funny voices, general threats and "poetic" tough guy talk... he can paint incredible detail in a story but at the same time it comes off disjointed... true ADD shit....

 

[StoneColdMikey]

Did you listen to gkmc and section 80 or you just basing that off his feature verses?

 

[judahxulu]

Humans are inherently shallow.

speak for yourself...

 

[ohhhla]

Humans are shallow.

You ain't above this shit.

 

[judahxulu]

Humans are shallow.

You ain't above this shit.

says who? by what fucking authority? just because you let a mufucka limit YOU dont mean you can limit humanity...

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

alright all the debate aside where the fuck is the audio????

 

[LUClEN]

It's inherent. Not only in what we seek as far as reproductive partners are concerned but all throughout our history we've feuded over material nonsense.

We're a reproduction-focused species that requires resources to survive, the fact that we are shallow, materialistic and lustful is a necessary conclusion.

 

[judahxulu]

It's inherent. Not only in what we seek as far as reproductive partners are concerned but all throughout our history we've feuded over material nonsense.

We're a reproduction-focused species that requires resources to survive, the fact that we are shallow, materialistic and lustful is a necessary conclusion.

Thats an opinion. You dont know every single human being to make that assumption. What you are saying is part and parcel of a specific doctrine that cannot be qualified or quantified. It is the power elite who feud over material nonsense and thats evidenced by the fact that 1% of the population controls 99% of the resources. Like I said speak for yourself... it is YOUR understanding that is shallow

 

[blackrain]

I'm not knocking Kendrick at all. I've been supporting dude from the beginning...

But I see where @judahxulu is coming from with his synopsis where Interscope is WWE'ing this "Control" scenario with Kendrick.

Of course they're trying to milk the control scenario who with sense wouldn't? He called everybody out to step they game up, named his main competition and that's it. Who actually expected dude to respond to all these cats lol. Seriously? People trying to interpret the verse literally like he really wants to end J. Cole career, nothing was passive aggressive about the verse, it was never as aggressive as people tried to make it, bold, but not all that aggressive. These dudes supposed to be hip hop heads, but can't understand the use of hyperbole in a track. C'mon son.

hip hop 101 : calling out names is ground for verbal assault

It can be but when you do a verse like Kendrick did, do you logically expect a personalized response to every person that made a song? In that Control thread with every response track that dropped you had some idiot saying Kendrick better respond to this, this, and this one too. At this rate, unless every verse somehow references someone who responded to Control alot of ya'll going to say Kendrick is a bitch. Fans expectations are just as wild as these fantasy lives rappers sell in their music. As for the Interscope shit, idk why ya'll tend to forget this but this is the music BUSINESS meaning marketing still matters...adn Kendrick's verse was a great marketing tool

then that means the whole fucking thing was contrived... thats not artistic or a good look.. lemme me make a mad aggressive verse but explain it away all artzy phartzy like... and its not like INTERSCOPE DOESNT HAVE A PATTERN. a verse as a MARKETING TOOL? thats the fucking problem... they just are in CONTROL of the nigga to steer his content and image on some fickle shit cause hes one of the ones that COULD have some shit to say... im looking at layers to the game... the whole shit is contrived. nobody logically expects a personalized response. theres a lot of ways to respond. i dont get how you dudes think. you cant say or insinuate you on some real hip hop shit and are bringing it back then you cant address mufuckas saying some ill shit about you IN RHYME FORM? the nigga took time to SAY sumn back about Meek Mill TO TALK about Paps... thats ho shit. No response is no response. Whatever though.

This is what all battles or disses or challenges set out between any rapper is about at it's heart though. A way of letting the world know you're better than the person you're talking about. Any battle record is a marketing tool from The Bridge Is Over to The Takeover to Hit Em Up. They all had the point of wanting to shut somebody else down and raise their own profile in the process.

 

[blackrain]

K-Dot is the best young nigga out.

I dunno how he's wack.

he's not wack in most categories of raw skill but he rambles, his ideas are disjointed, he's very negative with his content, his whole schtick is contrived, the voices get annoying, not only does he have an overwhelming amount of negative content but its very shallow and immature... hooks are hella weak... i overlooked all that just waiting cause every artist needs time to mature..but this control thing just disgusted me... its so contrived and pseudo... at least on section 80 he came off kinda genuine... more and more its like he was making great effort to appear genuine but not so. now he just cause off like an egocentric douchebag and a timid nigga tryna chest puff and hide behind literary device excuses and industry heads with a financial interest

Do you actually listen to his music? Negative content? His first hit record is a song that's about not drinking yourself retarded. How is that a bad thing?

 

[antarticp]

The only way Kendrick could impress me in the cypher at this point is to fire back at Meek and Papoose and jab at the ones that where afraid to respond. But he won't because he's a pussy on a level just slightly above Drake.

lol u mad ??

 

[antarticp]

K-Dot is the best young nigga out.

I dunno how he's wack.

he's not wack in most categories of raw skill but he rambles, his ideas are disjointed, he's very negative with his content, his whole schtick is contrived, the voices get annoying, not only does he have an overwhelming amount of negative content but its very shallow and immature... hooks are hella weak... i overlooked all that just waiting cause every artist needs time to mature..but this control thing just disgusted me... its so contrived and pseudo... at least on section 80 he came off kinda genuine... more and more its like he was making great effort to appear genuine but not so. now he just cause off like an egocentric douchebag and a timid nigga tryna chest puff and hide behind literary device excuses and industry heads with a financial interest

maybe maybe not i guess time will tell ... but 1 thing i will disagree that an overwhelming amount of his content is negative ... imo the kid is from compton ... for the most part most of his storys are rhymes on the above ground level are going to be negative ... but he always imo has a positive underlining message in most of his music ....... he doesnt glorify he tells the truths .... or @least he tells a story with more color .... and doesnt try to paint everything the same way ..... if you get what im saying ....

 

[judahxulu]

K-Dot is the best young nigga out.

I dunno how he's wack.

he's not wack in most categories of raw skill but he rambles, his ideas are disjointed, he's very negative with his content, his whole schtick is contrived, the voices get annoying, not only does he have an overwhelming amount of negative content but its very shallow and immature... hooks are hella weak... i overlooked all that just waiting cause every artist needs time to mature..but this control thing just disgusted me... its so contrived and pseudo... at least on section 80 he came off kinda genuine... more and more its like he was making great effort to appear genuine but not so. now he just cause off like an egocentric douchebag and a timid nigga tryna chest puff and hide behind literary device excuses and industry heads with a financial interest

Do you actually listen to his music? Negative content? His first hit record is a song that's about not drinking yourself retarded. How is that a bad thing?

Yes I do. You dont. That is not about NOT drinking yourself retarded. Its open ended. And he still is fucking drunk in the song. This is my exact point. A nigga describing a problem but at the end of the story he's still doing it is negative content. Why in the fuck would a mainstream media outlet that has stake in Seagrams make an ANTI-DRINKING song. That shit is shallow. THIS is a clear cut message: There is no room to interpret glorification of alcohol consumption. And they aint backed by the same mufucka who backed "Gin and Juice" which "coincidentally" mentions Seagrams gin by name. Expand your mind past that "hater" block..everybody who offers critique is not just pulling it out their ass. But seeing the game past what is put in your face requires common sense and just plain life game...wisdom

 

[judahxulu]

Not to mention the nigga keeps switching the story between whether he drinks and smokes or not. I know when Section 80 came out he wasnt..... this shit is not positive: [Bridge]

Pour up drank, head shot drank

Sit down drank, stand up drank

Pass out drank, wake up drank

Faded drank, faded drank

[Verse 1]

Now I done grew up

Round some people living their lifes in bottles

Granddaddy had the golden flask

Back stroke every day in Chicago

Some people like the way it feels

Some people wanna kill their sorrows

Some people wanna fit in with the popular

That was my problem

I was in the dark room

Loud tunes, looking to make a vow soon

That I'mma get fucked up, filling up my cup

I see the crowd mood

Changing by the minute and the record on repeat

Took a sip then another sip then somebody said to me

[Hook]

Nigga why you babysitting only two or three shots

I'mma show you how to turn it up a notch

First you get a swimming pool full of liquor then you dive in it

Pool full of liquor then you dive in it

I wave a few bottles then I watch em all flock

All the girls wanna play Baywatch

I got a swimming pool full of liquor and they dive in it

Pool full of liquor I'mma dive in it

[Bridge]

[Verse 2: Kendrick's conscience]

(Okay, now open your mind up and listen to me Kendrick

I am your conscience, if you do not hear me

Then you will be history Kendrick

I know that you're nauseous right now

And I'm hoping to lead you to victory Kendrick)

If I take another one down

I'mma drown in some poison abusing my limit

I think that I'm feeling the vibe

I see the love in her eyes, I see the feeling

The freedom is granted as soon as the damage of vodka arrived

This how you capitalize

This is parental advice

Then apparently I'm over influenced by what you are doing

I thought I was doing the most til someone said to me

[Hook + bridge]

I ride you ride bang

One chopper, one hundred shots bang

Hop out, do you bang

Two chopper, two hundred shots bang

I ride, you ride bang

One chopper, one hundred shots bang

Hop out, do you bang

Two chopper, two hundred shots bang

[Hook + bridge]

*Sherraaaneee*

Aw man, where is she taking me

Where is she taking me

All I, all I, all I

All I have in life is my new appetite for failure

And I got hunger pain that grow insane

Tell me do that sound familiar

If it do then you're like me

Making excuse that your relief

Is in the bottom of the bottle

And the greenest indo leaf

As the window open

I release everything that corrode inside of me

I see you joking, why you laugh

Don't you feel bad

I probably sleep and never ever wake up

Never ever wake up, never ever wake up

In God I trust but just when I thought I had enough

[Skit]

They stomped the homie out over a bitch

K-dot, you good, blood?

Now we can drop, ye we can drop you back off

That nigga's straight man, that nigga ain't tripping

We gon' do the same ol' shit

I'mma pop a few shots, they gon' run, they gon' run opposite ways

Fall right in ----'s lap

And he gon' tear they ass up, simple as that

And I hope that bitch that set him up out there, we gon' pop that bitch too

Wait hold up, aye I see somebody

Car door opens and gunshots are fired

Aha! Got them niggas, K-dot, you good?

L----, you good?

Yeah blood, I'm good, Dave, you good?

Dave? Dave, say something - Dave?

These bitch ass niggas killed my brother!

 

[xxCivicxx]

K-Dot is the best young nigga out.

I dunno how he's wack.

he's not wack in most categories of raw skill but he rambles, his ideas are disjointed, he's very negative with his content, his whole schtick is contrived, the voices get annoying, not only does he have an overwhelming amount of negative content but its very shallow and immature... hooks are hella weak... i overlooked all that just waiting cause every artist needs time to mature..but this control thing just disgusted me... its so contrived and pseudo... at least on section 80 he came off kinda genuine... more and more its like he was making great effort to appear genuine but not so. now he just cause off like an egocentric douchebag and a timid nigga tryna chest puff and hide behind literary device excuses and industry heads with a financial interest

Do you actually listen to his music? Negative content? His first hit record is a song that's about not drinking yourself retarded. How is that a bad thing?

I thought it was about getting hammered and going to see sherane, who either sets him up or gives him an std or both as far as I can tell

 

[judahxulu]

K-Dot is the best young nigga out.

I dunno how he's wack.

he's not wack in most categories of raw skill but he rambles, his ideas are disjointed, he's very negative with his content, his whole schtick is contrived, the voices get annoying, not only does he have an overwhelming amount of negative content but its very shallow and immature... hooks are hella weak... i overlooked all that just waiting cause every artist needs time to mature..but this control thing just disgusted me... its so contrived and pseudo... at least on section 80 he came off kinda genuine... more and more its like he was making great effort to appear genuine but not so. now he just cause off like an egocentric douchebag and a timid nigga tryna chest puff and hide behind literary device excuses and industry heads with a financial interest

Do you actually listen to his music? Negative content? His first hit record is a song that's about not drinking yourself retarded. How is that a bad thing?

I thought it was about getting hammered and going to see sherane, who either sets him up or gives him an std or both as far as I can tell

and getting hammered as an UNDERAGE character mind you....

 

[antarticp]

yall are too hypnotised by the hook listen to the lyrics ... the song is about peer pressue and amatuer drinkers .... and he even compares real drinkers and doesnt glorify them which is why he stayed sober until he tried to fit in to reach fame ....

Some people wanna fit in with the popular

That was my problem

like i said the kid adds color ... its def not straight forward but its a real as song because thats how most people become alcoholics ... nothing that is real is going to be straight forward it has to have layers and twist and turns ... thats life ....

he wasnt on no i get drunk i get high all day type of ish ..

 

[nickel-us P]

Music is timeless. Fuck yo age.