Kanye interview on the Breakfast Club out Now!

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I see some people are unable to recognize the "spirit" of what Kanye is saying. They're too stuck on the details specific to his reality to understand the relevance of the overall message...and the point he's trying to get across.

 

[blackrain]

So here's what's interesting. A lot of y'all who see all positive in what Kanye is saying are also admitting he needs to change his approach so more people can understand him coherently so you're admitting it comes off as ranting and pure arrogance yet fault people for not getting behind a message you admit he's not getting across clearly while blaming people for being sheep. Would people be sheep for following his message not understanding what he means though? Somewhere the blame got to lie on Kanye and having temper tantrums in interviews aint the way to get people to see his point

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

Kanye ain't crazy and that there is truly a method to his madness.

He is absolutely right in what he is saying. I felt like he answered the questions he just has a ton to say

People may look at it and think why the fashion industry but honestly you gotta start somewhere.

Sure he can start his own but then what? 10 years down the line it will be "played out" while LV, Gucci and RL will still be going strong.

And I don't even think its just fashion it seems he has more of a problem with people telling him he can't do something.

He wants to be heard he wants to get his thoughts out and he's passionate about it. I have no problem with that.

Somebody has to be meanwhile youhave other niggas just happy to be there.

like he said we ain't Jewish

We need people breaking down barriers in all facets

It's true money isn't everything but in this world money equates to power.

He was dropping knowledge it's just that his vision is just short sighted on fashion

 

[blackrain]

She's right though. Like C Tha G@d said we like him because of his music and his latest album was a letdown. He started out as a producer, but he's been a rapper for a decade now. Fans care about his music. All that whining about fashion 'n sh*t doesn't mean much to the average fan if you gonna keep releasing stuff like Yeezus. He rarely gave a straight answer to C tha G@d.

I'm getting tired now so I'll log off but I gotta read @xxCivixxx post cuz he might be on to something.

Why put him in a box though. Fans don't just care about the music as seen by the shoe sales and those stupid window sunglasses. Lol

It's like people can't let dude be great at more than one thing.

It's not about putting him in a box it's about asking him not to let the music suffer in pursuit of other things which he has done with Cruel Summer and Yeezus, and Watch The Throne depending on who you ask. He can design all the clothes he wants just don't slack off when he hits the studio

 

[UnderMiSensi]

To all of the people in here saying that financial empowerment is anything short of absolutely key in correcting the state of afro americans in this country please give me a SINGLE example of any sort of long-term positive changes that these "broke revolutionaries" have facilitated/influenced? Why are so many black people content with being hardcapped financially? Kanye was exactly right, as long as someone is signing your check, you're a slave. As long as you need to go to some bank for a loan to accomplish something(black people are also hardcapped on the size of business loans that we can recieve), you're a slave. Black people are all talk but when one of us tries to step up and do something, the crabs come right out of the woodwork.

Black people have been shut out of pretty much ALL distribution companies, and that's where the money is at in ANY industry. What Kanye is saying is that we need more black billionaires so that we can gain a GLOBAL VOICE because we don't have one. We have absolutely no influence on ANY global-scale decision has been made/is being made right now. Some of our more enlightened niggas feel some type of way about that. For all the talk of doing it by himself, show me one example of a black person that has successfully started a clothing line and worked it up to the gucci/givenchy/versace level? FUBU? Rockawear? Karl Kani? None of those brands even came close. How would the result be any different for Kanye? Especially since he's already proven that his previous fashion joint ventures have ALL BEEN SUCCESSFUL?

This shit is deeper than rap, it's deeper than clothes. It's about distribution. Kanye feels he has a calling in clothes and he feels like he kick the billionaire club's door in through that industry. More fucking power to him. He's in a position to at least attempt it, so why shouldn't he? He wasn't the first to try. Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, P Diddy, Suge Knight, Marvin Gaye, Same Cook as well as many other black artists expressed interest in starting an all-black music distribution company in order to break into that billionaire club. How many of those people are alive today? How many of those people didn't have their names run through the mud in the media? I mean diddy has a body and almost went to jail for shooting a club up. Suge Knight is broke in and out of jail gettin knocked out by small niggas outside of clubs. Michael Jackson would actually be a billionaire if he were alive today, his estate clears over a billion a year and it's still gaining more and more profits. This shit is deeper than music

If extreme confidence in oneself is some kind of mental illness then I probably have that same shit that Kanye has. I think his problem is that he thinks faster than he talks(I have the same issue) so he comes off as intense when he's just trying to get a bunch of points across at once. I think he's frustrated because of how dense a lot of niggas seem to be. C tha god is a funny guy but after this interview I'm forced to question his intelligence because this nigga was letting gems go completely over his head

I gotta say that after reading this thread I'm a little frustrated too. A lot of you niggas really need to learn some critical thinking skills

I cosign this post. I'm going through what Kanye is going through to an extent, but I try not to let it get me too angry. I know what's like to be ahead of your time and be ambitous, but be surrounded by happy go lucky, small minded niggas who don't see the bigger picture. So it's like your speaking a different language have to time because you going over "negroes" heads(which ain't hard to do). All in all I hope Kanye succeeds and grows in whatever endeavor he pursues, but he does need to work on his approach when it comes to dealing with people, he needs to learn better patience, tact, and humility. All that matched with ambition is deadly, if you going at corporations you gotta be times more focused and can't get flustered. Kanye got the right idea but he needs to work on himself a little more, maybe he does need a new circle of friends.

All that shit he said about blacks not having power or any connections is on point that shit makes it a thousand times harder to prevail, because you gotta go outside you're racial/class group for money to get a project started or start up funding and the risk is magnified when you approach a investor/bank due to you're class or racial background they'll not fund you even if you got your i's dotted and t's crossed so it's a catch 22. I just hope I make it so I can give ambitious "blacks" a hand up that I didn't receive when starting out so this damn cycle of mediocrity and failure will stop. BTW all that shit Kanye is saying in regards to financial freedom, Claude Anderson, Malcolm X, Amos Wilson and Marcus Garvey already elaborated on it( and much more coherently), it's just that "negroes" are hard headed, ignorant. and selfish so they never get the message

what church you preach at because amen at the bolded. I've been saying the same thing about myself because I'm one of the rare that sees the bigger picture. Most niggas are content with crumbs, I'm looking at the whole rack of bread that could be ours if people just wake tf up. Once you realized that their are mentally stuck, that's when you distances your presences from their existence.

A person will tell you who is hiring at jobs but wont ever tell you to create your own business.

BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS! haha

 

[lookdude]

"Don't nobody care bout what Obama wearing"

lol it's too many quotables in here

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

I cosign this post. I'm going through what Kanye is going through to an extent, but I try not to let it get me too angry. I know what's like to be ahead of your time and be ambitous, but be surrounded by happy go lucky, small minded niggas who don't see the bigger picture. So it's like your speaking a different language have to time because you going over "negroes" heads(which ain't hard to do). All in all I hope Kanye succeeds and grows in whatever endeavor he pursues, but he does need to work on his approach when it comes to dealing with people, he needs to learn better patience, tact, and humility. All that matched with ambition is deadly, if you going at corporations you gotta be times more focused and can't get flustered. Kanye got the right idea but he needs to work on himself a little more, maybe he does need a new circle of friends.

All that shit he said about blacks not having power or any connections is on point that shit makes it a thousand times harder to prevail, because you gotta go outside you're racial/class group for money to get a project started or start up funding and the risk is magnified when you approach a investor/bank due to you're class or racial background they'll not fund you even if you got your i's dotted and t's crossed so it's a catch 22. I just hope I make it so I can give ambitious "blacks" a hand up that I didn't receive when starting out so this damn cycle of mediocrity and failure will stop. BTW all that shit Kanye is saying in regards to financial freedom, Claude Anderson, Malcolm X, Amos Wilson and Marcus Garvey already elaborated on it( and much more coherently), it's just that "negroes" are hard headed, ignorant. and selfish so they never get the message

I usually don't call niggas out, but bruh...

 

[Jabu_Rule]

So here's what's interesting. A lot of y'all who see all positive in what Kanye is saying are also admitting he needs to change his approach so more people can understand him coherently so you're admitting it comes off as ranting and pure arrogance yet fault people for not getting behind a message you admit he's not getting across clearly while blaming people for being sheep. Would people be sheep for following his message not understanding what he means though? Somewhere the blame got to lie on Kanye and having temper tantrums in interviews aint the way to get people to see his point

Charlemagne was telling him not to pursue his dreams and be content with a family because that's all the happiness you need. Dude trying to build something while simultaneously seeking happiness with his family and he's notably receded from attacking the paparazzi for invading his privacy and saying disrespectful shit to him. It's not that people aren't getting behind his message, it's just that as he's admitted, he is finally able to slow down and define his message which i feel he has in the video. People like Charlamange the "God" wants to keep boxing him in talking bout, but the music? And he's saying sure, that, and much much more... He's been saying that and i think it took him doing battle with a idiot that gets away to often with his hatred and divisiveness as he attempts to margnilize all guest for it to be more defined.

 

[black caesar]

Now lets see a man trying to do his thing in fashion.

Ozwald Boateng began working towards his goal in a studio on Portobello Road, which he opened in 1991 at the age of 23. Over the next few years he developed his design philosophy. In 1994, he was the first tailor to present a collection on the Paris catwalk. At the end of 1994, Ozwald Boateng has opened his first store on Vigo Street, just off Savile Row, and became the youngest and first black tailor to have a store on the row.

Over the past two decades Ozwald Boateng has reinterpreted the British art of bespoke tailoring. Traditional craftsmanship and innovation are corner stones of the House. Ozwald Boateng's iconic contemporary twist, refined fabrics and contemporary silhouettes offer a unique luxury experience to men of all generations.

With the birth of the Savile Row House in 2007 designed by world famous architect David Adjaye, Ozwald Boateng has extended its bespoke expertise to semi-bespoke, ready-to-wear, shoes, accessories and luggage: a sophisticated journey through men's lifestyle. True to his pioneer spirit, Ozwald Boateng consistently breaks new ground, combining fashion, design, art and architecture.

I've seen this cat in GQ mag

 

[1of1]

So here's what's interesting. A lot of y'all who see all positive in what Kanye is saying are also admitting he needs to change his approach so more people can understand him coherently so you're admitting it comes off as ranting and pure arrogance yet fault people for not getting behind a message you admit he's not getting across clearly while blaming people for being sheep. Would people be sheep for following his message not understanding what he means though? Somewhere the blame got to lie on Kanye and having temper tantrums in interviews aint the way to get people to see his point

He wouldn't be who he is w/o his approach. People act like he has offended them. I can understand why Sway felt offended. I don't understand why a listener who isn't directly involved, especially someone BLACK with comprehension skills and experience in this world, would allow something as trivial as his delivery overshadow the strong message he was trying to get across.

Judging by the punchlines of @haute and those who would applaud her perspective on this it seems that people are more focused on the messenger than the actual message...making their acceptance of the message a lot more unlikely b/c it doesn't fall into the box that they've limited him to in their minds.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

So him rattling off the names of designers is his way of saying that the diaspora needs to focus on economic empowerment?

His quest to make the flyest Yeezy is really a quest to stop violence in Chicago?

We believe u. U have enough ppl.

 

[G.Avant]

So here's what's interesting. A lot of y'all who see all positive in what Kanye is saying are also admitting he needs to change his approach so more people can understand him coherently so you're admitting it comes off as ranting and pure arrogance yet fault people for not getting behind a message you admit he's not getting across clearly while blaming people for being sheep. Would people be sheep for following his message not understanding what he means though? Somewhere the blame got to lie on Kanye and having temper tantrums in interviews aint the way to get people to see his point

Who said anybody was sheep though?

 

[Jabu_Rule]

So here's what's interesting. A lot of y'all who see all positive in what Kanye is saying are also admitting he needs to change his approach so more people can understand him coherently so you're admitting it comes off as ranting and pure arrogance yet fault people for not getting behind a message you admit he's not getting across clearly while blaming people for being sheep. Would people be sheep for following his message not understanding what he means though? Somewhere the blame got to lie on Kanye and having temper tantrums in interviews aint the way to get people to see his point

He wouldn't be who he is w/o his approach. People act like he has offended them. I can understand why Sway felt offended. I don't understand why a listener who isn't directly involved, especially someone BLACK with comprehension skills and experience in this world, would allow something as trivial as his delivery overshadow the strong message he was trying to get across.

Judging by the punchlines of @haute and those who would applaud her perspective on this it seems that people are more focused on the messenger than the actual message...making their acceptance of the message a lot more unlikely b/c it doesn't fall into the box that they've limited him to in their minds.

Just the other day, they was telling us to respect the message that Trinidad James was giving us rather then attacking yuk mouth for disrespecting a city. Still Kanye never asked nobody to fight him if they had a problem with his message. Well maybe the President.. Lol

 

[UnderMiSensi]

I cosign this post. I'm going through what Kanye is going through to an extent, but I try not to let it get me too angry. I know what's like to be ahead of your time and be ambitous, but be surrounded by happy go lucky, small minded niggas who don't see the bigger picture. So it's like your speaking a different language have to time because you going over "negroes" heads(which ain't hard to do). All in all I hope Kanye succeeds and grows in whatever endeavor he pursues, but he does need to work on his approach when it comes to dealing with people, he needs to learn better patience, tact, and humility. All that matched with ambition is deadly, if you going at corporations you gotta be times more focused and can't get flustered. Kanye got the right idea but he needs to work on himself a little more, maybe he does need a new circle of friends.

All that shit he said about blacks not having power or any connections is on point that shit makes it a thousand times harder to prevail, because you gotta go outside you're racial/class group for money to get a project started or start up funding and the risk is magnified when you approach a investor/bank due to you're class or racial background they'll not fund you even if you got your i's dotted and t's crossed so it's a catch 22. I just hope I make it so I can give ambitious "blacks" a hand up that I didn't receive when starting out so this damn cycle of mediocrity and failure will stop. BTW all that shit Kanye is saying in regards to financial freedom, Claude Anderson, Malcolm X, Amos Wilson and Marcus Garvey already elaborated on it( and much more coherently), it's just that "negroes" are hard headed, ignorant. and selfish so they never get the message

I usually don't call niggas out, but bruh...

 

[1of1]

Iiii'm

A-head of my time

Sometimes years out

So the powers that be won't let me get my ideas out

 

[T. Sanford]

That bed most be very comfortable because people are still sleep

 

[xxCivicxx]

So him rattling off the names of designers is his way of saying that the diaspora needs to focus on economic empowerment?

His quest to make the flyest Yeezy is really a quest to stop violence in Chicago?

We believe u. U have enough ppl.

Once again, people such as Michael Jackson made the EXACT same kind of speeches against music execs like Tommy Motola. Kanye's passion for black clothing distribution is very similar to MJ's passion for black music distribution(black musical business sense in general)

 

[usmarin3]

She's right though. Like C Tha G@d said we like him because of his music and his latest album was a letdown. He started out as a producer, but he's been a rapper for a decade now. Fans care about his music. All that whining about fashion 'n sh*t doesn't mean much to the average fan if you gonna keep releasing stuff like Yeezus. He rarely gave a straight answer to C tha G@d.

I'm getting tired now so I'll log off but I gotta read @xxCivixxx post cuz he might be on to something.

Why put him in a box though. Fans don't just care about the music as seen by the shoe sales and those stupid window sunglasses. Lol

It's like people can't let dude be great at more than one thing.

It's not about putting him in a box it's about asking him not to let the music suffer in pursuit of other things which he has done with Cruel Summer and Yeezus, and Watch The Throne depending on who you ask. He can design all the clothes he wants just don't slack off when he hits the studio

Lol at music suffering. Its arguable that 4 of his 6 albums are classics. The two that weren't are up for debate because 808 and HB clearly has been influential, see Drakes style and 40s production. See Chance the Rapper and so on.

Yeezus influence will be seen in the future

 

[blackrain]

So here's what's interesting. A lot of y'all who see all positive in what Kanye is saying are also admitting he needs to change his approach so more people can understand him coherently so you're admitting it comes off as ranting and pure arrogance yet fault people for not getting behind a message you admit he's not getting across clearly while blaming people for being sheep. Would people be sheep for following his message not understanding what he means though? Somewhere the blame got to lie on Kanye and having temper tantrums in interviews aint the way to get people to see his point

Charlemagne was telling him not to pursue his dreams and be content with a family because that's all the happiness you need. Dude trying to build something while simultaneously seeking happiness and he's notably receded from attach the paparazzi for invading his privacy and saying disrespectful shit to him. It's not that people aren't getting behind his message, it's just that as he's admitted, he is finally able to slow down and define his message which i feel he has in the video. People like Charlamange the "God" once to keep boxing him in talking bout, but the music? And he's saying sure, that, and much much more... He's been saying that and i think it took him doing battle with a idiot that gets away to often with his hatred and divisiveness as he attempts to margnilize all guest.

I dont think Chaamagne was saying not to pursue his dreams he was saying that Ye shouldn't and doesn't really have a reason to flip out the way he did. That's why he said Kanye got rich nigga problems. He told him he doesn't need the fashion industry to be happy in life and that just because they tell you no doesn't mean the world is over like he's been acting like because you also heard Charlamagne say multiple times why don't Kanye do it without the corporations he seemingly hates so much

 

[Stiff]

To all of the people in here saying that financial empowerment is anything short of absolutely key in correcting the state of afro americans in this country please give me a SINGLE example of any sort of long-term positive changes that these "broke revolutionaries" have facilitated/influenced? Why are so many black people content with being hardcapped financially? Kanye was exactly right, as long as someone is signing your check, you're a slave. As long as you need to go to some bank for a loan to accomplish something(black people are also hardcapped on the size of business loans that we can recieve), you're a slave. Black people are all talk but when one of us tries to step up and do something, the crabs come right out of the woodwork.

Black people have been shut out of pretty much ALL distribution companies, and that's where the money is at in ANY industry. What Kanye is saying is that we need more black billionaires so that we can gain a GLOBAL VOICE because we don't have one. We have absolutely no influence on ANY global-scale decision has been made/is being made right now. Some of our more enlightened niggas feel some type of way about that. For all the talk of doing it by himself, show me one example of a black person that has successfully started a clothing line and worked it up to the gucci/givenchy/versace level? FUBU? Rockawear? Karl Kani? None of those brands even came close. How would the result be any different for Kanye? Especially since he's already proven that his previous fashion joint ventures have ALL BEEN SUCCESSFUL?

This shit is deeper than rap, it's deeper than clothes. It's about distribution. Kanye feels he has a calling in clothes and he feels like he kick the billionaire club's door in through that industry. More fucking power to him. He's in a position to at least attempt it, so why shouldn't he? He wasn't the first to try. Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, P Diddy, Suge Knight, Marvin Gaye, Same Cook as well as many other black artists expressed interest in starting an all-black music distribution company in order to break into that billionaire club. How many of those people are alive today? How many of those people didn't have their names run through the mud in the media? I mean diddy has a body and almost went to jail for shooting a club up. Suge Knight is broke in and out of jail gettin knocked out by small niggas outside of clubs. Michael Jackson would actually be a billionaire if he were alive today, his estate clears over a billion a year and it's still gaining more and more profits. This shit is deeper than music

If extreme confidence in oneself is some kind of mental illness then I probably have that same shit that Kanye has. I think his problem is that he thinks faster than he talks(I have the same issue) so he comes off as intense when he's just trying to get a bunch of points across at once. I think he's frustrated because of how dense a lot of niggas seem to be. C tha god is a funny guy but after this interview I'm forced to question his intelligence because this nigga was letting gems go completely over his head

I gotta say that after reading this thread I'm a little frustrated too. A lot of you niggas really need to learn some critical thinking skills

Bro..this is an extremely insightful post and I cosign most of what you said and I believe this conversation is great for opening our eyes BUT..what is it about what Kanye is trying to do changing this? He's not trying to disrupt the infrastructure or break free of the chains, he wants to be apart of it! He's not talking about creating his own distribution channels. How is he talking about slave this and slave that when what he's talking about is not about breaking free but basically being a more powerful slave? He would still have to answer to those people if they're signing checks for distributing him.