Kanye interview on the Breakfast Club out Now!

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So him rattling off the names of designers is his way of saying that the diaspora needs to focus on economic empowerment?

His quest to make the flyest Yeezy is really a quest to stop violence in Chicago?

We believe u. U have enough ppl.

Doesn't see the big picture post. Violence isn't the issue in Chicago. The issue is opportunity, class warfare, and lack of self worth. Violence is just a byproduct. People who don't have opportunity in a capitalist society will do whatever to survive.

It all ties back to what Ye is saying. We need financial power.

So... Begging Nike to let us design overpriced foot wear will empower us and lead to less violence in Chicago?

Stop focusing on Nike nigga. Lol

Focus on the message. Y'all too focus on the delivery and face value shit, read in between the lines.

No bruh..him getting backed by a major fashion house has nothing to do with Black financial independence..in fact it's contrary to it

One may find it necessary to learn the ropes from the "inside" and gain an understanding of an industry from those who have controlled it, and branch off with solid experience and original ideas in pocket to take things to another level when the time is right.

 

[blackrain]

So here's what's interesting. A lot of y'all who see all positive in what Kanye is saying are also admitting he needs to change his approach so more people can understand him coherently so you're admitting it comes off as ranting and pure arrogance yet fault people for not getting behind a message you admit he's not getting across clearly while blaming people for being sheep. Would people be sheep for following his message not understanding what he means though? Somewhere the blame got to lie on Kanye and having temper tantrums in interviews aint the way to get people to see his point

He wouldn't be who he is w/o his approach. People act like he has offended them. I can understand why Sway felt offended. I don't understand why a listener who isn't directly involved, especially someone BLACK with comprehension skills and experience in this world, would allow something as trivial as his delivery overshadow the strong message he was trying to get across.

Judging by the punchlines of @haute and those who would applaud her perspective on this it seems that people are more focused on the messenger than the actual message...making their acceptance of the message a lot more unlikely b/c it doesn't fall into the box that they've limited him to in their minds.

You can't underestimate the importance of delivery and the messenger. How do you expect a person to listen to what you're saying if you're not getting your point across clearly? As far as the importance of the messenger you wouldnt you want to know if someone is qualified or not when it comes to telling you certain information? The style of how someone delivers their message is far more than trivial it can make or break the message itself

This subject, as many others, does not require expert opinion.

Someone with specific experience is telling you what has happened to him in his pursuits, and how he has interpreted it, and why he's determined to break down barriers he feels have been set before him and anyone "like" him.

And the speaker needs to know that if many people either don't get or misinterpreted the message then maybe they need to rethink their approach so they reach their intended listeners. That's why delivery matters...

Tell me this. When someone else breaks down the message and simplifies it for those who were unable to interpret it, why would people continue to rail against it or attack the messenger? Are you [that/i] offended or thrown off by the delivery that you're no longer interested in the message, even if it is explained in a manner that is more palpable for your understanding?

Look at my posts. I never said I was offended by anything Kanye said. I even said I agree with what he's saying. I just disagree with how he's saying it. Yes the delivery of the message can become so distorted through ranting that it turns people away from it regardless of what's being said. People will simply look to another source who can deliver the same message without coming across as an egotistical self centered ass which is only a small part of what's distorting Kanye's message

 

[Stiff]

So him rattling off the names of designers is his way of saying that the diaspora needs to focus on economic empowerment?

His quest to make the flyest Yeezy is really a quest to stop violence in Chicago?

We believe u. U have enough ppl.

Doesn't see the big picture post. Violence isn't the issue in Chicago. The issue is opportunity, class warfare, and lack of self worth. Violence is just a byproduct. People who don't have opportunity in a capitalist society will do whatever to survive.

It all ties back to what Ye is saying. We need financial power.

So... Begging Nike to let us design overpriced foot wear will empower us and lead to less violence in Chicago?

Stop focusing on Nike nigga. Lol

Focus on the message. Y'all too focus on the delivery and face value shit, read in between the lines.

No bruh..him getting backed by a major fashion house has nothing to do with Black financial independence..in fact it's contrary to it

One may find it necessary to learn the ropes from the "inside" and gain an understanding of an industry from those who have controlled it, and branch off with solid experience and original ideas in pocket to take things to another level when the time is right.

He's already interned with Louis Vuitton I think it was? He has designed for both Louis Vuitton and Nike, it seems he has an understanding of the business. I'm sure he could attract some more knowledgeable people of the field to his circle to guide him on some decision-making. He's making some brilliant points but again, what does this have to do with Black financial independence?

 

[nex gin]

To all of the people in here saying that financial empowerment is anything short of absolutely key in correcting the state of afro americans in this country please give me a SINGLE example of any sort of long-term positive changes that these "broke revolutionaries" have facilitated/influenced? Why are so many black people content with being hardcapped financially? Kanye was exactly right, as long as someone is signing your check, you're a slave. As long as you need to go to some bank for a loan to accomplish something(black people are also hardcapped on the size of business loans that we can recieve), you're a slave. Black people are all talk but when one of us tries to step up and do something, the crabs come right out of the woodwork.

Black people have been shut out of pretty much ALL distribution companies, and that's where the money is at in ANY industry. What Kanye is saying is that we need more black billionaires so that we can gain a GLOBAL VOICE because we don't have one. We have absolutely no influence on ANY global-scale decision has been made/is being made right now. Some of our more enlightened niggas feel some type of way about that. For all the talk of doing it by himself, show me one example of a black person that has successfully started a clothing line and worked it up to the gucci/givenchy/versace level? FUBU? Rockawear? Karl Kani? None of those brands even came close. How would the result be any different for Kanye? Especially since he's already proven that his previous fashion joint ventures have ALL BEEN SUCCESSFUL?

This shit is deeper than rap, it's deeper than clothes. It's about distribution. Kanye feels he has a calling in clothes and he feels like he kick the billionaire club's door in through that industry. More fucking power to him. He's in a position to at least attempt it, so why shouldn't he? He wasn't the first to try. Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, P Diddy, Suge Knight, Marvin Gaye, Same Cook as well as many other black artists expressed interest in starting an all-black music distribution company in order to break into that billionaire club. How many of those people are alive today? How many of those people didn't have their names run through the mud in the media? I mean diddy has a body and almost went to jail for shooting a club up. Suge Knight is broke in and out of jail gettin knocked out by small niggas outside of clubs. Michael Jackson would actually be a billionaire if he were alive today, his estate clears over a billion a year and it's still gaining more and more profits. This shit is deeper than music

If extreme confidence in oneself is some kind of mental illness then I probably have that same shit that Kanye has. I think his problem is that he thinks faster than he talks(I have the same issue) so he comes off as intense when he's just trying to get a bunch of points across at once. I think he's frustrated because of how dense a lot of niggas seem to be. C tha god is a funny guy but after this interview I'm forced to question his intelligence because this nigga was letting gems go completely over his head

I gotta say that after reading this thread I'm a little frustrated too. A lot of you niggas really need to learn some critical thinking skills

I owe you 100 GOAT for this. Well stated, but nigguhs ain't gonna hear you bruh. People get so caught up in Ye's ranting that they aren't even listening to what he's actually saying or trying to accomplish. The fact that I see so many comments on so many different boards only focusing on his perceived lunacy is a testament to the widespread crab mentality and lack of understanding that continues to breed complacency and ignorance w/in our communities.

 

[MR.CJ]

Talking all that pro black shit but wifing a non black woman

 

[T. Sanford]

Worldstar captions the video saying Cthagod sonned Kanye but that nigga didn't sonned shit, he spoke his mind but he didn't son Kanye. Kanye out here dropping gems & Worldstar is sleeping like Van Winkle.

 

[OGClarenceBoddicker]

"you kno da feds listenin, nigga what money"

 

[Kellmill]

Bring on the flags and no-signs, but I feel like Ye is the closest thing we have to Pac in this day and age. I know the music isn't similar, but both have that same passion. If you're calling Ye emotional and are a Pac stan then you should revisit some of his interviews. It's refreshing to hear niggas talk about something other than Ciroc for a change. He's contradictory as fuck, but you can tell he's on another level.

 

[Stiff]

@xxCivicxx Stop no-signing my posts and answer my question: What does Kanye getting distributed by a major fashion house have to do with Black Financial Independence?

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Like Kanye is saying that haute couture is an industry and they choose who they allow it in and even they use brothers for promotion, they ll never make them partner let alone give them a fair chance ... Like brothers in that industry are limited ....for the same reason as if u want major distribution there's only a few companies u can turn to and they will never make u even partners

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

For one most major fashion lines are under 2 opposing conglomerates that control the industry

 

[xxCivicxx]

@xxCivicxx Stop no-signing my posts and answer my question: What does Kanye getting distributed by a major fashion house have to do with Black Financial Independence?

Sorry nigga I'm not gonna hold your hand through the entire learning process. That's why you're so confused about all the shit that I'm posting now. Apply that brain of yours and think. In your opinion, how would a black man kicking in the door of a multi-billion dollar global industry(primarily controlled by whites for much of recent history) contribute to afro americans gaining economic strength/independence? I can only post so many titangraphs before I have to give up on some of you niggas. If you actually want to understand then ACTUALLY MAKE AN ATTEMPT AT UNDERSTANDING

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Yo at the end of the day, look at the discussions people are having

I'm tired, you tired,......

 

[xxCivicxx]

I really don't understand how some of you guys think. Throughout all of modern history, the ONLY time that innovations created within black culture have reached a global scale has been when white corporations could co-opt and can make profits off of said innovations. Do you niggas think that's random? There have lots of black millionaires. How come NONE OF THEM have been able to break into ANY global distribution structures? Many have tried and failed to penetrate all kinds of distribution rings, but of course the same people own most of the shit on this planet INCLUDING those distribution companies

I don't understand how some of you don't understand how his business moves can be beneficial to the race as a whole. All he has to do is get his foot in the door, and that might pave the way for someone after him to go further. The thing is that YOU NEVER FUCKING KNOW SO WHY NOT TRY? What the fuck do we as a people have to show for ourselves right now? All he's doing is trying to get to the next level. The top level. I commend any black man trying to take over the world. Like my sig says, go for it

Like Kanye said, you niggas shitting on him now will be hugging his nuts in a decade

 

[Jamaican Curry Bwoy]

So him rattling off the names of designers is his way of saying that the diaspora needs to focus on economic empowerment?

His quest to make the flyest Yeezy is really a quest to stop violence in Chicago?

We believe u. U have enough ppl.

Once again, people such as Michael Jackson made the EXACT same kind of speeches against music execs like Tommy Motola. Kanye's passion for black clothing distribution is very similar to MJ's passion for black music distribution(black musical business sense in general)

Michael Jackson tried to go it alone in several of his ventures, and almost went broke because of it.

 

[Stiff]

@xxCivicxx Stop no-signing my posts and answer my question: What does Kanye getting distributed by a major fashion house have to do with Black Financial Independence?

Sorry nigga I'm not gonna hold your hand through the entire learning process. That's why you're so confused about all the shit that I'm posting now. Apply that brain of yours and think. In your opinion, how would a black man kicking in the door of a multi-billion dollar global industry(primarily controlled by whites for much of recent history) contribute to afro americans gaining economic strength/independence? I can only post so many titangraphs before I have to give up on some of you niggas. If you actually want to understand then ACTUALLY MAKE AN ATTEMPT AT UNDERSTANDING

Yeah okay guy so basically you don't understand either so now you're being condescending to deflect...well played. He's not talking about building his own distribution he wants in on theirs..nothing INDEPENDENT about that. Good day sir.

 

[Ranxx]

@xxCivicxx

Fuck this thread man you're throwing pearls amongst swine, some of these house niggas just happy they're not in the field

 

[deathrowzorrow]

Why are you equating freedom to money? Money is not what makes us free in this World." - Charlamagne the God.

He sonned Kanye West pretty bad

 

[T. Sanford]

Why are you equating freedom to money? Money is not what makes us free in this World." - Charlamagne the God.

He sonned Kanye West pretty bad

no he didnt

Kanye explained what was his reasoning but niggas like Cthegod cannot see his vision because he's one dimensional minded

 

[T. Sanford]

That bed most be very comfortable because people are still sleep

Then again most niggas will change the channel, since some positive & knowledge is dropping