Jay-Z - 'Magna Carta Holy Grail'

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s2jepeka;6010475 said:
smokelahoma;6010404 said:
to this day I still dont see the hype for Ross, he spits line, pause, spits line, pause, line, pause.... EVERY FUCKING SONG!!!

Sheeeit

'I dont bop, i do the money dance'>>>>>

And dont ask me why lol

LOL I don't know why either but that line was just dope lol
 
Disciplined InSight;6012066 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;6011490 said:
Disciplined InSight;6011367 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;6011347 said:
Disciplined InSight;6011324 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;6011280 said:
When was jay not about business and corporate capitalism?

Lol

I swear blood y'all niggas be embellishing these revisionist stories ...

Jus like when some nigga on here tried to tell me that kanye used to be "a humble kind of guy" on his first album but now that guy is dead ... Lmao

Comedy

Yeah..but you could still tell the difference back then.

Riiiiiiiiiihht.

Same nigga that used to religiously shout out armadale vodka and crystal on every album ...

Smh ... Niggas

A hood rich nigga with a corporate/capitalist mindstate vs. a corporate rich nigga with a corporate/capitalist mindstate.

Stop playing.

Smh...Rationalizing ....

Bein a millionaire ain't no fuckin "hood rich" how many millionaires in Marcy projects nigga ...FOH

I see you're still playing trolling and nice trying at a rebuttal but no cigar. Just go ahead and take your L.

From Reasonable Doubt to The Black Album his whole steez he was kicking was being a rich nigga from Marcy projects aka the hood thus being a "rich hood nigga" aka "hood rich mentality" while trying to break intp that corporate phase...that is not rationalizing that is fact.

Then comes outta "retirement" with Kingdom Come to the current album we're talking about now...a totally different Jay from that RD to TBA phase..he broke in now, more corporate-minded with more businesses, money etc.

Except ..He had immensely "more money" and "corporate tenticales" on TBA than he did on RD but... yet thats all "hood nigga rich nigga/coporate mentality" right?

Yet when he does the same double up from TBA to today suddenly "it's different doh"

Lol...Comedy

He still talks about being a rich nigga from Marcy projects trying to make it in the corporate world on this very album tho bruh.. Fuck are you talking about "that used to be his steez" he's still playing off of that shit today... On this album...as well as multiple other projects after the BA period.. You don't remember American Gangster? No? C'mon now Cuzzo cut this shit off .. Oh how soon we are to forget ... Lol

"How can this nappy head nigga from the projects be the apple of America's obsession your totally disconnected from reality don't believe in dreams since when did black men become kings"

"New money, they looking down on me..."Blue bloods" they trying to clown on me...You can turn up your nose High Society.. Never gone turn down the homey"

^^^thats HOV btw ...you gone have to do better my nigga.. Do better than this shit you spittin cos it's sounding real shakey like

And don't kid yourself my nigga ... You could never send a L this way ..ain't eeeen possible..you still need work on your technique the basics .. fundamentals and shit

 
ROZAYTABERNACLE;6012164 said:
buttuh_b;6011751 said:
A good album is a 7. Y'all rating systems are flawed. An average album is a 5.

lol I wish I would've went to a school like yours.

He right in the ballpark ... I'd say an average album is a 6 .... But some of these nigga in here talking about ohh yeah it's just "solid" it's just "coo" .......8-8.5!

Sound kind of funny ... 8's are suppose to = great then 9's should = exceptional ...10 = classic.. of course
 
Album is flat out dope. Been spinning it since the fourth and each listen I heard a new gem or splash on somebody. Like his Kellz swipe lol.
 
Already Home_17;6011201 said:
UPTOWN CONNEXX;6010891 said:
nj2089;6010033 said:
Frank ocean did his thing on that oceans track

maybe i heard it wrong but did this nigga say "i hope my black skin doesnt dirty this white suit"??

da fuck kinda shit...........

"...before the Basquiat show"

he's basically saying he hopes the whites who participate in high culture don't feel his black presence is ruining their way of life. he hopes hopes they don't have the same mindstate their ancestors did when they didnt want black people to progress

if they still do...

"well fuck it. fuck it"

that's how I interpreted it

props for this ... this pretty much explains the coonish feeling of such lyrics
 
Disciplined InSight;6011204 said:
UPTOWN CONNEXX;6010921 said:
rip.dilla;6010900 said:
UPTOWN CONNEXX;6010891 said:
maybe i heard it wrong but did this nigga say "i hope my black skin doesnt dirty this white suit"??

da fuck kinda shit...........

*tuxedo

even worse... is there some kinda of poetic reference im missing... i mean in some of the lyrics i hear jay talking some black struggle shit ... but wtf??

He explained it..so what's your take on his reference for this song (which I think it's a good song.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFdFLdh8new

that helps me understand. i can respect the fact that atleast his black consciousness comes into play even thru his commercial success.

what raises an eyebrow to me is sometimes he comes off as if he wants white acceptance

when/if i learn the lyrics to the song ill understand even more clearly
 
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waterproof;6011210 said:
Tom Ford is an openly gay fashion designer, this is the guy u named ur song after, somewhere Larry Johnson (no pun intended) is throwing up the ROC.....

But after all on this album this is Jay-z only time that he's dropping jewels, trying at least

this is what bothers me ... this dude stays giving reference to these white ppl

tom ford

picasso

even the title is on some europe shit

.... it starting to be too white for me lol
 
Baw$3$mok3.JR;6011373 said:
Hov bout here sounding like Keef, Reese, Flocka, Gucci, Future, & 2 Chainz.

Then niggaz called it his best aob

im pretty sure that song about beyonce was juveniles flo lol

 
UPTOWN CONNEXX;6012982 said:
waterproof;6011210 said:
Tom Ford is an openly gay fashion designer, this is the guy u named ur song after, somewhere Larry Johnson (no pun intended) is throwing up the ROC.....

But after all on this album this is Jay-z only time that he's dropping jewels, trying at least

this is what bothers me ... this dude stays giving reference to these white ppl

tom ford

picasso

even the title is on some europe shit

.... it starting to be too white for me lol

BBC is a black owned clothing company tho ....

All the basquiat references?

Y'all niggas love to complain is what i see
 
JDSTAYWITIT.;6012561 said:
Disciplined InSight;6012066 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;6011490 said:
Disciplined InSight;6011367 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;6011347 said:
Disciplined InSight;6011324 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;6011280 said:
When was jay not about business and corporate capitalism?

Lol

I swear blood y'all niggas be embellishing these revisionist stories ...

Jus like when some nigga on here tried to tell me that kanye used to be "a humble kind of guy" on his first album but now that guy is dead ... Lmao

Comedy

Yeah..but you could still tell the difference back then.

Riiiiiiiiiihht.

Same nigga that used to religiously shout out armadale vodka and crystal on every album ...

Smh ... Niggas

A hood rich nigga with a corporate/capitalist mindstate vs. a corporate rich nigga with a corporate/capitalist mindstate.

Stop playing.

Smh...Rationalizing ....

Bein a millionaire ain't no fuckin "hood rich" how many millionaires in Marcy projects nigga ...FOH

I see you're still playing trolling and nice trying at a rebuttal but no cigar. Just go ahead and take your L.

From Reasonable Doubt to The Black Album his whole steez he was kicking was being a rich nigga from Marcy projects aka the hood thus being a "rich hood nigga" aka "hood rich mentality" while trying to break intp that corporate phase...that is not rationalizing that is fact.

Then comes outta "retirement" with Kingdom Come to the current album we're talking about now...a totally different Jay from that RD to TBA phase..he broke in now, more corporate-minded with more businesses, money etc.

Except ..He had immensely "more money" and "corporate tenticales" on TBA than he did on RD but... yet thats all "hood nigga rich nigga/coporate mentality" right?

Yet when he does the same double up from TBA to today suddenly "it's different doh"

Lol...Comedy

He still talks about being a rich nigga from Marcy projects trying to make it in the corporate world on this very album tho bruh.. Fuck are you talking about "that used to be his steez" he's still playing off of that shit today... On this album...as well as multiple other projects after the BA period.. You don't remember American Gangster? No? C'mon now Cuzzo cut this shit off .. Oh how soon we are to forget ... Lol

"How can this nappy head nigga from the projects be the apple of America's obsession your totally disconnected from reality don't believe in dreams since when did black men become kings"

"New money, they looking down on me..."Blue bloods" they trying to clown on me...You can turn up your nose High Society.. Never gone turn down the homey"

^^^thats HOV btw ...you gone have to do better my nigga.. Do better than this shit you spittin cos it's sounding real shakey like

And don't kid yourself my nigga ... You could never send a L this way ..ain't eeeen possible..you still need work on your technique the basics .. fundamentals and shit

You forgot another one:

I wanna Rothko, no I wanna brothel

No, I want a wife that fuck me like a prostitute

Let's make love on a million, in a dirty hotel

With the fan on the ceiling, all for the love of drug dealing


That sounds something like a "hood rich" nigga would do.

Let me send your 1st L then I'm through. We're basically saying the same thing...but then again we're not because you're caught in the emotional whirlwind of being a Witness instead of thinking clear and critically.

During Reasonable Doubt to The Black Album Jay had more of a "hood edge" (the hustlers, the boosters, the gangstas, etc.) while being corporate mind and richer than the average nigga who has money. Now on his current shit , he is MORE RICH, MORE CORPORATE and now he's moved onto another and wider audience.

"I dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars"......guess what...he's still doing that!

Refresh your memory one time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmsAw7xrcKM

"We tote guns to the Grammys, pop bottles on the White House lawn..I guess I'm just the same ol' Shawn".

That wasn't aimed for those Whites who's looking down on him.

Oh wait.

And of course the white corporate heads gonna look down on him..because he's a BLACK MULTI-MILLIOINAIRE...duh...and I didn't forgetAmerican Gangster. I left that out purposely because I knew you was gonna use that example, being that it was an advantage for him to go back to that "hood rich/egde" that made him famous considering the movie was a bio-pic of Frank Lucas(a real-life millionaire "hood rich" dealer like he was)...see the connection?

Fuck fundamentals...this is chess and I play it too well.
 
"Shout out to old Jews and old rules uhhh, new blacks wit new stacks uhhh..... I already been the king uhhh retro act(tive) I'm just bringing it back like Jordan/Packs(Paxson)"
 
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Disciplined InSight;6013211 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;6012561 said:
Disciplined InSight;6012066 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;6011490 said:
Disciplined InSight;6011367 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;6011347 said:
Disciplined InSight;6011324 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;6011280 said:
When was jay not about business and corporate capitalism?

Lol

I swear blood y'all niggas be embellishing these revisionist stories ...

Jus like when some nigga on here tried to tell me that kanye used to be "a humble kind of guy" on his first album but now that guy is dead ... Lmao

Comedy

Yeah..but you could still tell the difference back then.

Riiiiiiiiiihht.

Same nigga that used to religiously shout out armadale vodka and crystal on every album ...

Smh ... Niggas

A hood rich nigga with a corporate/capitalist mindstate vs. a corporate rich nigga with a corporate/capitalist mindstate.

Stop playing.

Smh...Rationalizing ....

Bein a millionaire ain't no fuckin "hood rich" how many millionaires in Marcy projects nigga ...FOH

I see you're still playing trolling and nice trying at a rebuttal but no cigar. Just go ahead and take your L.

From Reasonable Doubt to The Black Album his whole steez he was kicking was being a rich nigga from Marcy projects aka the hood thus being a "rich hood nigga" aka "hood rich mentality" while trying to break intp that corporate phase...that is not rationalizing that is fact.

Then comes outta "retirement" with Kingdom Come to the current album we're talking about now...a totally different Jay from that RD to TBA phase..he broke in now, more corporate-minded with more businesses, money etc.

Except ..He had immensely "more money" and "corporate tenticales" on TBA than he did on RD but... yet thats all "hood nigga rich nigga/coporate mentality" right?

Yet when he does the same double up from TBA to today suddenly "it's different doh"

Lol...Comedy

He still talks about being a rich nigga from Marcy projects trying to make it in the corporate world on this very album tho bruh.. Fuck are you talking about "that used to be his steez" he's still playing off of that shit today... On this album...as well as multiple other projects after the BA period.. You don't remember American Gangster? No? C'mon now Cuzzo cut this shit off .. Oh how soon we are to forget ... Lol

"How can this nappy head nigga from the projects be the apple of America's obsession your totally disconnected from reality don't believe in dreams since when did black men become kings"

"New money, they looking down on me..."Blue bloods" they trying to clown on me...You can turn up your nose High Society.. Never gone turn down the homey"

^^^thats HOV btw ...you gone have to do better my nigga.. Do better than this shit you spittin cos it's sounding real shakey like

And don't kid yourself my nigga ... You could never send a L this way ..ain't eeeen possible..you still need work on your technique the basics .. fundamentals and shit

You forgot another one:

I wanna Rothko, no I wanna brothel

No, I want a wife that fuck me like a prostitute

Let's make love on a million, in a dirty hotel

With the fan on the ceiling, all for the love of drug dealing


That sounds something like a "hood rich" nigga would do.

Let me send your 1st L then I'm through. We're basically saying the same thing...but then again we're not because you're caught in the emotional whirlwind of being a Witness instead of thinking clear and critically.

During Reasonable Doubt to The Black Album Jay had more of a "hood edge" (the hustlers, the boosters, the gangstas, etc.) while being corporate mind and richer than the average nigga who has money. Now on his current shit , he is MORE RICH, MORE CORPORATE and now he's moved onto another and wider audience.

"I dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars"......guess what...he's still doing that!

Refresh your memory one time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmsAw7xrcKM

"We tote guns to the Grammys, pop bottles on the White House lawn..I guess I'm just the same ol' Shawn".

That wasn't aimed for those Whites who's looking down on him.

Oh wait.

And of course the white corporate heads gonna look down on him..because he's a BLACK MULTI-MILLIOINAIRE...duh...and I didn't forgetAmerican Gangster. I left that out purposely because I knew you was gonna use that example, being that it was an advantage for him to go back to that "hood rich/egde" that made him famous considering the movie was a bio-pic of Frank Lucas(a real-life millionaire "hood rich" dealer like he was)...see the connection?

Fuck fundamentals...this is chess and I play it too well.

Ohhhhh ...Nooooowwwwww "we saying the same thing" huh?

FOH

....lol you still my nigga Cuzzo ..... Just don't ever think you gone send a L JD's way .... Better try your luck with these other niggas
 
JDSTAYWITIT.;6013228 said:
"Shout out to old Jews and old rules uhhh, new blacks wit new stacks uhhh..... I already been the king uhhh retro act(tive) I'm just bringing it back like Jordan/Packs(Paxson)"

Old jews are black israelites

I already was a king refers to ancient Egypt

Bringing it back means black men becoming King again like pharaoh

 
Nas crippin right now he is happy as hell the money he made of the feature.

Jay know that Nas charge alot.. But real niggas cost

hukhmp.jpg
 
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UPTOWN CONNEXX;6013005 said:
Baw$3$mok3.JR;6011373 said:
Hov bout here sounding like Keef, Reese, Flocka, Gucci, Future, & 2 Chainz.

Then niggaz called it his best aob

im pretty sure that song about beyonce was juveniles flo lol

Yup. Using Juvenile's flow. then the line:

"Push ya motherfuckin wig back, I did that(the name of one of Juvenile's tracks)

I been wildin since a juvi"

Hov is a clever guy. What makes it so genius is that he seems to do these things so effortlessly whilest sticking to the theme and subject matter of the track, and without even drawing attention to it.

When other rappers make a punchline (its usually not as witty anyway), they usually make a point of drawing atention to it.
 
ROZAYTABERNACLE;6012164 said:
buttuh_b;6011751 said:
A good album is a 7. Y'all rating systems are flawed. An average album is a 5.

lol I wish I would've went to a school like yours.

If you went to a school like mine you probably wouldn't graduate, it's highly competitive and highly ranked. Everything was graded on a curve though.

But if you're talking strictly on a scale of 1 to 10, a 5 is average. That's simple math. This isn't school. That's why I laugh when you idiots write titangraphs about flaws of an album and then give it a 9 out of 10.
 
Oh we clownin about schools now?

@Monizzle14 @RozayTabernacle and whoever else.. we can pull degrees, transcripts and world rankings out if you wanna go there. And I don't even think school is necessarily a great indicator of intelligence but please don't go there.

I took a tax class that would eat you faggots alive where the average grade was 49% which equated to a 3.2 GPA. You can ask law students and probably medical students who had similar conditions.
 

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