Is There Anyway To Avoid Child Support

[2stepz_ahead]

My end goal is to just see my son. I work 12hrs a day M to F so obviously full custody is a no go. She doesn't work so clearly she has more free time so im the financial provider for my kid besides her grandparents. So Pampers, wipes, clothes...etc is all me. All she gotta do is watch him. We had a verbal agreements i get him every two weeks and can come see him when ever i want. But since she started dating this new guy she been actin funny. She took our child to this man's house for a whole week without consulting me and wouldnt answer her phone so i couldnt even get in contact with her or my child and wouldnt gemme a address. Now she talkin bout her and her new nigga moving to Florida and taking my son......i just want to see my son but its lookin like going to court the only way to do that which means CS and i don't want that. Cuz why pay her 300 to 400 a month to see my child when i already buy him everything he need and want anyway. Thats jst giving her free money to do watever with

i stopped after the first line.

i gotta come down on you bruh.

dont matter what hours you work. you already got an inplace excuse for why not.

ok...pralims scenario alert.

if your bm dies tomorrow...guess who gets the kid? you will have to figure it out. what are your plans? do you have any back up plans for that?

raising a kid is about the what ifs. just from the first line....a judge will see you not serious and kick you outta court.

so is it about just seeing your son? not paying support? or are you trynna be a father? cuz if its the latter....you have alot of power an say so....if its the former...you giving her all the power.

now...as i read the rest.....stop worrying about this new dude. aye..shes a woman. she wants companionship. if you need to flip it on her...then do it. tell her she can spend more time developing a relationship with dude if she didnt have a kid there. shit, its worth a try.

and about CS....man that should not be as much as a deciding factor as your making it.

think about your kid...coming to you years later talking about you didnt protect me or fight for me and bad things happened....all because you didnt want to fight because of support payment.

i know people always say i go to far...but this is the real world where anything can happen. and you have to be prepared for it.

dont let another man have to discipline you child

dont let another man the decision of allowing you to speak to your child when you call his house.

dont let another man have that type control over you and yours

dont let this chick use the kid as a pawn.

bruh..im telling you this shit needs to get nipped in the bud an it only get harder the longer you wait.

i been thru it twice for over a decade....bitches had me on tyrese status on christmases and birthdays. but it was worth it to me to keep fighting for my children. they didnt ask to be here. dont make them suffer because yall cant get along.

again i say man up.

put your balls on the table.

dont allow this chick to just punch you in the face...duck an gut punch her.

and she cant go outta state without your permission anyway...she straight up playing you like you a short nigga.

dont allow it bruh.

niggas on this site will tell you how they felt when they finally met they dad. they hated that nigga who didnt fight for them.

thats YOUR seed bruh

 

[mryounggun]

First off we need full story

2nd shes a bird that wants a prison BF

3....get 50/50 custody so u dont have to pay $$$?

^^^^I'm thinking pretty similar shit. But I'll leave that shit alone. Got one serious question, though.

Have you actually tried talking to her and working out joint 50/50 custody with her?

Overtime this kind of shit is brought up on the IC, it seems like when the breakup happens, it's automatically assumed without any discussion that the kid is going to be with mom and dad will have weekends or visitation or whatever the fuck. And I never really understand why that's the default.

Me and my son's mom literally never had a conversation at all about custody when we broke up. She already knew it was gonna be 50/50 and so did I. Only thing we had to talk about was the actual logistics. I feel like ANYTIME two people break up, 50/50 should be the default. Ideally, that removes the need for any sort of support from either side.

So have you tried to arrange that with her? If so, what was the outcome?

ur forgetting most women don't act like yours.. u blessed homie

I'm not forgetting the at all. I just want dude to answer the question.

 

[MsSouthern]

I already signed his birth certificate. I was there when she pushed him out. He's two now ik he's mine cuz she started messing around in like dec of last yr. My issue is i have no legal claim to him without a dna test but i get one i still get out on CS. Why should i have to pay this bird 300 to 400 just for the privilege to see my son who i helped create when im already taking care of him all cuz she wanna keep him from me df. The system rigged to fck me over

Signing the BC does not make you the legal father

If you are unmarried then in order to get rights to your child you need an order not a DNA test

Not saying don't get one but it is not a way to just get rights to your child. There is more to it ...

 

[2stepz_ahead]

gotta make sure you in this to win.

cant be part timing it.

you just wasnt dealt those card bruh.

everybody aint @mryounggun i still hate that niggas guts for having such an understand bm. this some bullshit

 

[MsSouthern]

My end goal is to just see my son. I work 12hrs a day M to F so obviously full custody is a no go. She doesn't work so clearly she has more free time so im the financial provider for my kid besides her grandparents. So Pampers, wipes, clothes...etc is all me. All she gotta do is watch him. We had a verbal agreements i get him every two weeks and can come see him when ever i want. But since she started dating this new guy she been actin funny. She took our child to this man's house for a whole week without consulting me and wouldnt answer her phone so i couldnt even get in contact with her or my child and wouldnt gemme a address. Now she talkin bout her and her new nigga moving to Florida and taking my son......i just want to see my son but its lookin like going to court the only way to do that which means CS and i don't want that. Cuz why pay her 300 to 400 a month to see my child when i already buy him everything he need and want anyway. Thats jst giving her free money to do watever with

wait so you don't to be the primary parent .....just not pay her support ????

Smh

And why does she have to ask permission to take your child somewhere ??? Unless the person is a threat to your child you will lose that battle

Without a court order you don't have any rights

 

[MsSouthern]

gotta make sure you in this to win.

cant be part timing it.

you just wasnt dealt those card bruh.

everybody aint @mryounggun i still hate that niggas guts for having such an understand bm. this some bullshit

My sons dad and I had a court order and we had no major issues

It's usually about how the people behave and not the system

 

[mryounggun]

First off we need full story

2nd shes a bird that wants a prison BF

3....get 50/50 custody so u dont have to pay $$$?

^^^^I'm thinking pretty similar shit. But I'll leave that shit alone. Got one serious question, though.

Have you actually tried talking to her and working out joint 50/50 custody with her?

Overtime this kind of shit is brought up on the IC, it seems like when the breakup happens, it's automatically assumed without any discussion that the kid is going to be with mom and dad will have weekends or visitation or whatever the fuck. And I never really understand why that's the default.

Me and my son's mom literally never had a conversation at all about custody when we broke up. She already knew it was gonna be 50/50 and so did I. Only thing we had to talk about was the actual logistics. I feel like ANYTIME two people break up, 50/50 should be the default. Ideally, that removes the need for any sort of support from either side.

So have you tried to arrange that with her? If so, what was the outcome?

How do y'all do 50/50? Switch every week?

Yeah week to week.

 

[mryounggun]

I already signed his birth certificate. I was there when she pushed him out. He's two now ik he's mine cuz she started messing around in like dec of last yr. My issue is i have no legal claim to him without a dna test but i get one i still get out on CS. Why should i have to pay this bird 300 to 400 just for the privilege to see my son who i helped create when im already taking care of him all cuz she wanna keep him from me df. The system rigged to fck me over

I'ma just keep it a buck here, fam. You're not paying for the privilege of seeing your son, you're paying to support him financially. And if I'm being honest - all things considered - I'll tell you that $300-$400 a month ain't...-eh, nevemind.

 

[mryounggun]

gotta make sure you in this to win.

cant be part timing it.

you just wasnt dealt those card bruh.

everybody aint @mryounggun i still hate that niggas guts for having such an understand bm. this some bullshit

Hate ya own guts, nigga. Lol. I be tryna tell y'all niggas. I didn't just slip and fall into a partner who ain't a piece of shit. I orchestrated it that way. Before ANYTHING else, niggas need to ask themselves this before having a baby with a woman:

'Is this a GOOD PERSON?'.

It ain't that difficult.

 

[mryounggun]

My end goal is to just see my son. I work 12hrs a day M to F so obviously full custody is a no go. She doesn't work so clearly she has more free time so im the financial provider for my kid besides her grandparents. So Pampers, wipes, clothes...etc is all me. All she gotta do is watch him. We had a verbal agreements i get him every two weeks and can come see him when ever i want. But since she started dating this new guy she been actin funny. She took our child to this man's house for a whole week without consulting me and wouldnt answer her phone so i couldnt even get in contact with her or my child and wouldnt gemme a address. Now she talkin bout her and her new nigga moving to Florida and taking my son......i just want to see my son but its lookin like going to court the only way to do that which means CS and i don't want that. Cuz why pay her 300 to 400 a month to see my child when i already buy him everything he need and want anyway. Thats jst giving her free money to do watever with

wait so you don't to be the primary parent .....just not pay her support ????

Smh

And why does she have to ask permission to take your child somewhere ??? Unless the person is a threat to your child you will lose that battle

Without a court order you don't have any rights

In THAT situation? Shorty taking his kid to some new niggas house...who he hasn't met with yet...for an entire week...and refuse to give him the address?

Yeah, aight. To put it lightly, I'ma have a problem with that too.

 

[nawledge_god]

dont get into a beef with The Rock.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

gotta make sure you in this to win.

cant be part timing it.

you just wasnt dealt those card bruh.

everybody aint @mryounggun i still hate that niggas guts for having such an understand bm. this some bullshit

Hate ya own guts, nigga. Lol. I be tryna tell y'all niggas. I didn't just slip and fall into a partner who ain't a piece of shit. I orchestrated it that way. Before ANYTHING else, niggas need to ask themselves this before having a baby with a woman:

'Is this a GOOD PERSON?'.

It ain't that difficult.

yea...we gon fight nigga.

ole it aint difficult ass nigga

maybe you lucked up.

how about that shit?

niggas dont want to be thankful, they wanna act like they got it together.

 

[mryounggun]

gotta make sure you in this to win.

cant be part timing it.

you just wasnt dealt those card bruh.

everybody aint @mryounggun i still hate that niggas guts for having such an understand bm. this some bullshit

Hate ya own guts, nigga. Lol. I be tryna tell y'all niggas. I didn't just slip and fall into a partner who ain't a piece of shit. I orchestrated it that way. Before ANYTHING else, niggas need to ask themselves this before having a baby with a woman:

'Is this a GOOD PERSON?'.

It ain't that difficult.

yea...we gon fight nigga.

ole it aint difficult ass nigga

maybe you lucked up.

how about that shit?

niggas dont want to be thankful, they wanna act like they got it together.

It's a bit of both, admittedly. But only like 25% luck, at most nigga. How about THAT?!?

 

[semi-auto-mato]

i dont know where u are so forgive me if the laws in ur state are different. first child support and visitation do not go together in new jersey. just because u pay support does not mean u get visitation. i suggest going to court and have court ordered visitation. if u and her cannot work out an agreement that is the best thing to do. get a lawyer and go to court. there shouldnt be a dna test involved unless u deny ur the father or she denies ur the father. paternity is established if u both agree the lil guy is urs.

 

[TayGettem]

My end goal is to just see my son. I work 12hrs a day M to F so obviously full custody is a no go. She doesn't work so clearly she has more free time so im the financial provider for my kid besides her grandparents. So Pampers, wipes, clothes...etc is all me. All she gotta do is watch him. We had a verbal agreements i get him every two weeks and can come see him when ever i want. But since she started dating this new guy she been actin funny. She took our child to this man's house for a whole week without consulting me and wouldnt answer her phone so i couldnt even get in contact with her or my child and wouldnt gemme a address. Now she talkin bout her and her new nigga moving to Florida and taking my son......i just want to see my son but its lookin like going to court the only way to do that which means CS and i don't want that. Cuz why pay her 300 to 400 a month to see my child when i already buy him everything he need and want anyway. Thats jst giving her free money to do watever with

wait so you don't to be the primary parent .....just not pay her support ????

Smh

And why does she have to ask permission to take your child somewhere ??? Unless the person is a threat to your child you will lose that battle

Without a court order you don't have any rights

Ay im not tryin to take our kid from her. She a ain't shit cheatin mf for sure but she a good mom. I just aint liking how she tryin to distance me from my kid. If it comes to it ill hit da courts i jst dont wanna do CS

 

[MsSouthern]

My end goal is to just see my son. I work 12hrs a day M to F so obviously full custody is a no go. She doesn't work so clearly she has more free time so im the financial provider for my kid besides her grandparents. So Pampers, wipes, clothes...etc is all me. All she gotta do is watch him. We had a verbal agreements i get him every two weeks and can come see him when ever i want. But since she started dating this new guy she been actin funny. She took our child to this man's house for a whole week without consulting me and wouldnt answer her phone so i couldnt even get in contact with her or my child and wouldnt gemme a address. Now she talkin bout her and her new nigga moving to Florida and taking my son......i just want to see my son but its lookin like going to court the only way to do that which means CS and i don't want that. Cuz why pay her 300 to 400 a month to see my child when i already buy him everything he need and want anyway. Thats jst giving her free money to do watever with

wait so you don't to be the primary parent .....just not pay her support ????

Smh

And why does she have to ask permission to take your child somewhere ??? Unless the person is a threat to your child you will lose that battle

Without a court order you don't have any rights

In THAT situation? Shorty taking his kid to some new niggas house...who he hasn't met with yet...for an entire week...and refuse to give him the address?

Yeah, aight. To put it lightly, I'ma have a problem with that too.

But you have a good relationship with your kid's mom.

He doesn't. In fact refers to her as a bird amongst other things. Hella disrespectful on his part.

So out of respect.... ya she should introduce them so he feels comfortable ....but she's not breaking any laws by not

 

[MsSouthern]

My end goal is to just see my son. I work 12hrs a day M to F so obviously full custody is a no go. She doesn't work so clearly she has more free time so im the financial provider for my kid besides her grandparents. So Pampers, wipes, clothes...etc is all me. All she gotta do is watch him. We had a verbal agreements i get him every two weeks and can come see him when ever i want. But since she started dating this new guy she been actin funny. She took our child to this man's house for a whole week without consulting me and wouldnt answer her phone so i couldnt even get in contact with her or my child and wouldnt gemme a address. Now she talkin bout her and her new nigga moving to Florida and taking my son......i just want to see my son but its lookin like going to court the only way to do that which means CS and i don't want that. Cuz why pay her 300 to 400 a month to see my child when i already buy him everything he need and want anyway. Thats jst giving her free money to do watever with

wait so you don't to be the primary parent .....just not pay her support ????

Smh

And why does she have to ask permission to take your child somewhere ??? Unless the person is a threat to your child you will lose that battle

Without a court order you don't have any rights

Ay im not tryin to take our kid from her. She a ain't shit cheatin mf for sure but she a good mom. I just aint liking how she tryin to distance me from my kid. If it comes to it ill hit da courts i jst dont wanna do CS

Well that's not how things work

If she is refusing you visitation then go get your rights. Cause you are not the legal father. Not saying you aren't not the child's father but in the eyes of the law it's different.

But they are going to order support too unless she doesn't want it.

And most likely you will be responsible for getting insurance for your child if you haven't already

 

[mryounggun]

My end goal is to just see my son. I work 12hrs a day M to F so obviously full custody is a no go. She doesn't work so clearly she has more free time so im the financial provider for my kid besides her grandparents. So Pampers, wipes, clothes...etc is all me. All she gotta do is watch him. We had a verbal agreements i get him every two weeks and can come see him when ever i want. But since she started dating this new guy she been actin funny. She took our child to this man's house for a whole week without consulting me and wouldnt answer her phone so i couldnt even get in contact with her or my child and wouldnt gemme a address. Now she talkin bout her and her new nigga moving to Florida and taking my son......i just want to see my son but its lookin like going to court the only way to do that which means CS and i don't want that. Cuz why pay her 300 to 400 a month to see my child when i already buy him everything he need and want anyway. Thats jst giving her free money to do watever with

wait so you don't to be the primary parent .....just not pay her support ????

Smh

And why does she have to ask permission to take your child somewhere ??? Unless the person is a threat to your child you will lose that battle

Without a court order you don't have any rights

In THAT situation? Shorty taking his kid to some new niggas house...who he hasn't met with yet...for an entire week...and refuse to give him the address?

Yeah, aight. To put it lightly, I'ma have a problem with that too.

But you have a good relationship with your kid's mom.

He doesn't. In fact refers to her as a bird amongst other things. Hella disrespectful on his part.

So out of respect.... ya she should introduce them so he feels comfortable ....but she's not breaking any laws by not

The bolded is irrelevant, based on exactly what you mentioned...respect. You don't do shit like that in general just out of RESPECT for the other parent. It don't really matter if they get along or not. Family members don't always get along. But there should be a basic level of respect that's always adhered to no matter what. From both sides. Period.

 

[Trollio]

Kill everybody

 

[TayGettem]

My end goal is to just see my son. I work 12hrs a day M to F so obviously full custody is a no go. She doesn't work so clearly she has more free time so im the financial provider for my kid besides her grandparents. So Pampers, wipes, clothes...etc is all me. All she gotta do is watch him. We had a verbal agreements i get him every two weeks and can come see him when ever i want. But since she started dating this new guy she been actin funny. She took our child to this man's house for a whole week without consulting me and wouldnt answer her phone so i couldnt even get in contact with her or my child and wouldnt gemme a address. Now she talkin bout her and her new nigga moving to Florida and taking my son......i just want to see my son but its lookin like going to court the only way to do that which means CS and i don't want that. Cuz why pay her 300 to 400 a month to see my child when i already buy him everything he need and want anyway. Thats jst giving her free money to do watever with

wait so you don't to be the primary parent .....just not pay her support ????

Smh

And why does she have to ask permission to take your child somewhere ??? Unless the person is a threat to your child you will lose that battle

Without a court order you don't have any rights

Ay im not tryin to take our kid from her. She a ain't shit cheatin mf for sure but she a good mom. I just aint liking how she tryin to distance me from my kid. If it comes to it ill hit da courts i jst dont wanna do CS

Well that's not how things work

If she is refusing you visitation then go get your rights. Cause you are not the legal father. Not saying you aren't not the child's father but in the eyes of the law it's different.

But they are going to order support too unless she doesn't want it.

And most likely you will be responsible for getting insurance for your child if you haven't already

He's already on my insurance was on it a month after he popped out of her. Like i said i take care of mine

My end goal is to just see my son. I work 12hrs a day M to F so obviously full custody is a no go. She doesn't work so clearly she has more free time so im the financial provider for my kid besides her grandparents. So Pampers, wipes, clothes...etc is all me. All she gotta do is watch him. We had a verbal agreements i get him every two weeks and can come see him when ever i want. But since she started dating this new guy she been actin funny. She took our child to this man's house for a whole week without consulting me and wouldnt answer her phone so i couldnt even get in contact with her or my child and wouldnt gemme a address. Now she talkin bout her and her new nigga moving to Florida and taking my son......i just want to see my son but its lookin like going to court the only way to do that which means CS and i don't want that. Cuz why pay her 300 to 400 a month to see my child when i already buy him everything he need and want anyway. Thats jst giving her free money to do watever with

wait so you don't to be the primary parent .....just not pay her support ????

Smh

And why does she have to ask permission to take your child somewhere ??? Unless the person is a threat to your child you will lose that battle

Without a court order you don't have any rights

In THAT situation? Shorty taking his kid to some new niggas house...who he hasn't met with yet...for an entire week...and refuse to give him the address?

Yeah, aight. To put it lightly, I'ma have a problem with that too.

But you have a good relationship with your kid's mom.

He doesn't. In fact refers to her as a bird amongst other things. Hella disrespectful on his part.

So out of respect.... ya she should introduce them so he feels comfortable ....but she's not breaking any laws by not

The bolded is irrelevant, based on exactly what you mentioned...respect. You don't do shit like that in general just out of RESPECT for the other parent. It don't really matter if they get along or not. Family members don't always get along. But there should be a basic level of respect that's always adhered to no matter what. From both sides. Period.

U get my point if i really went into detail abt all the foul shit she did yall would see she just out right disrespectful.

Example: me and her broke up. Now we happened to be in the talkin stage abt getting bck together. Note me and her was fckin this whole time no condom. The reason i found out abt the other guy was cause she got pregnant by him. She got pregnant by a guy off fb she only knew for a few months. Turns out da min we broke up she was secretly dating him while we was still talkin abt being together and fckin. Hell he didn't even know we was still fckin cuz she was tellin him she over me and shit. Sooooo basically she fckd both of us raw and if he would of had something i could of caught it. An to top it off she had brung my son to his house to spend da night on multiple accounts without tellin me Jack shit........ik she would never hurt my son physically but how she moves is grimey like what if that nigga would of been a child molester but u jst brungin my son around him without lettin me know. But she don't look at shit that way which is why i call her a bird she all looks no brain and jst go with watever. She lacks respect and common sense