In 5 Years, Rick Ross will one of "our" Legends...

[G.R.I.P. Money $$$]

Coming from the nigga with 50 Cent in his AVI. You shouldn't criticize anyone's opinion on Hip Hop.

on top of that he's a waka flocka stan...

 

[G Mack]

i think sionb pretty much shitted on this thread

 

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ya'll niggas be sensitive ike bitches, bringin up a rappers circumstances & lettin it shape your opinion on the music or him "fallen off".. so what a nigga been in & out of jail.. that means he fell off? do i have to say this shit in arabic? THE MOTHAFUCKA HAD NO PROMO, NO OFFICIAL SINGLE & STILL WENT GOLD IN 6 WEEKS!!!

guess he's falling off on internet forums tho.. *shrugs*

 

[illogics]

ya'll niggas be sensitive ike bitches, bringin up a rappers circumstances & lettin it shape your opinion on the music or him "fallen off".. so what a nigga been in & out of jail.. that means he fell off? do i have to say this shit in arabic? THE MOTHAFUCKA HAD NO PROMO, NO OFFICIAL SINGLE & STILL WENT GOLD IN 6 WEEKS!!!

guess he's falling off on internet forums tho.. *shrugs*

.....Calm down

 

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bruh u know u look like his biggest stan tho right..

 

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Musically Tip been fell off. It happened around the time King came out. Some of us like Trap Muzik, Urban Legend Tip.......that guy has been gone for a very long time. TI will still sell but his music is but a shadow of its former self

if that's the case all rappers fall off, the nigga hasn't though.. u expect Tip to still be on his Trap Muzik, Urban Legend shit when he's won grammy's, been in films, made 30-40 million, has businesses... really? stop... the music hasn't fallen off.. he's just saying shit you can't relate too anymore...

 

[Maalik]

My man you making some great arguments but these dudes are just gonna stick their heads in the sand and repeat the mantra that Ross is carried by production. I know he can spit, any body who has REALLY been listening to Ross since DTR KNOWS he can spit but these jokers here will just keep repeating that Ross ain't saying nothing even though he saying the same things that most of their favorite rappers are. Its weird. Its ppl on here who think Mafia Music 2 sucked lyrically......

I know I am & as usual, none of these niggas can defend any of my initial points. Can he spit? Yea, had a few classic verses this year. Is he selling? Yea, considering the climate. Can he make hits? Yea, no need to elaborate further. Has he had & survived beef? Yes...twice. Does the industry cosign him? Yes....damn near everyone who's anyone. Has he had longevity? Yea...he's on his 5th album. Can he make actual enjoyable albums? Yea...Luda/Fabolous could learn a thing or two.

What are these niggas really talkin about on here?

And you know THESE MUTHAFUCKAS can't read because they're assuming I said Ross was a Legend now, when I clearly said, if Ross continues on the path he's on......in 5 years........I can see him being one.

 

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NO RAPPER who has had MAJOR success continues talking about the same thing from the beginning to end... they have low & high points throughout their careers cause the amount of success they've achieved equates to a percentage of their old fans no longer being able to adapt to their lifestyle but at the same time bringing in new fans who understand it... it's give & take

 

[Maalik]

bruh u know u look like his biggest stan tho right..

Yea...probably.

 

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and the only reason Ross won't be a legend is because he hasn't done anything to change the game or introduced a sound that wasn't previously there... but in 5 years he WILL have to be considered top 20 ever if his resume contines the way it is... nigga hasn't dropped a bad album yet.. and dude got HITS whether you wanna believe it or not.. nigga has slowed down the careers of 50 & Jeezy .. gotta give him credit

 

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Rick Ross, Top 20 ever.....LOL.

 

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Yea...probably.

not u, i agree wit u...or at least see it as possible..

 

[StillDreaming]

if that's the case all rappers fall off, the nigga hasn't though.. u expect Tip to still be on his Trap Muzik, Urban Legend shit when he's won grammy's, been in films, made 30-40 million, has businesses... really? stop... the music hasn't fallen off.. he's just saying shit you can't relate too anymore...

I had no idea you were a TI stan LOL. Didn't I say the nigga will still sell?? I'm not talking bout his money business I'm talkin bout his music. You may wanna go back and listen to No Mercy again because TI ain't talking about nothing he ain't already done before(unless you wanna count that corny Castle Walls shit). ASAP, Motivation, You Don't know Me, Get Loose, What it Do etc will shit on 90% of TIs new shit. I'm sorry but the boy fell off musically. TI vs TIP and Paper Trail are both pop garbage

 

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Rick Ross, Top 20 ever.....LOL.

how can Ross not end up being top 20 ever if the nigga comes out with 8-9 Dope albums? please... explain yourself.. just dont talk to me about some rapper with no relevance among the mainstream or one that hasn't sold any records or one whose records never get any spins... wait, that shit don't count... smh

 

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I had no idea you were a TI stan LOL. Didn't I say the nigga will still sell?? I'm not talking bout his money business I'm talkin bout his music. You may wanna go back and listen to No Mercy again because TI ain't talking about nothing he ain't already done before(unless you wanna count that corny Castle Walls shit). ASAP, Motivation, You Don't know Me, Get Loose, What it Do etc will shit on 90% of TIs new shit. I'm sorry but the boy fell off musically. TI vs TIP and Paper Trail are both pop garbage

i'm not a stan, i speak the truth... ya'll done got too comfortable w/ that Stan word on the IC ... like i said, when u reach a certain level of success.. ur content changes...

 

[Maalik]

I had no idea you were a TI stan LOL. Didn't I say the nigga will still sell?? I'm not talking bout his money business I'm talkin bout his music. You may wanna go back and listen to No Mercy again because TI ain't talking about nothing he ain't already done before(unless you wanna count that corny Castle Walls shit). ASAP, Motivation, You Don't know Me, Get Loose, What it Do etc will shit on 90% of TIs new shit. I'm sorry but the boy fell off musically. TI vs TIP and Paper Trail are both pop garbage

The other day, I listened to "Still aint Forgave Myself" & was puzzled for a few minutes. I couldn't believe that was Tip.

 

[illogics]

how can Ross not end up being top 20 ever if the nigga comes out with 8-9 Dope albums?

Because there's a lot more niggas in this game that made more timeless music than Ross. Branched out more then Ross. Switched up they style more than ross. And those 8-9 "dope" albums are carried by production. Yall confuse that with us saying Ross is trash on the mic. But just because he's serviceable on good beats don't make him no Legend.

 

[jonathand]

Because there's a lot more niggas in this game that made more timeless music than Ross. Branched out more then Ross. Switched up they style more than ross. And those 8-9 "dope" albums are carried by production. Yall confuse that with us saying Ross is trash on the mic. But just because he's serviceable on good beats don't make him no Legend.

exxxxxactly. Nigga really said top 20 rapper of all time. I can't believe some of the shit that niggas type up here...Rick Ros probably won't be in his own damn top 20...

 

[Maalik]

how can Ross not end up being top 20 ever if the nigga comes out with 8-9 Dope albums? please... explain yourself.. just dont talk to me about some rapper with no relevance among the mainstream or one that hasn't sold any records or one whose records never get any spins... wait, that shit don't count... smh

Pretty much all I was tryna say...I can listen to each of Ross's albums (POM is a bit outdated now his lyrics got better). Most rappers come out hot & fall off. Not too many come out slow & increase in popularity overtime. Only artists I can remember who've done it were Wayne & Jay. If the nigga drop 2-3 more dope albums, I dont see how cats can deny him anymore.

 

[StillDreaming]

I know I am & as usual, none of these niggas can defend any of my initial points. Can he spit? Yea, had a few classic verses this year. Is he selling? Yea, considering the climate. Can he make hits? Yea, no need to elaborate further. Has he had & survived beef? Yes...twice. Does the industry cosign him? Yes....damn near everyone who's anyone. Has he had longevity? Yea...he's on his 5th album. Can he make actual enjoyable albums? Yea...Luda/Fabolous could learn a thing or two.

What are these niggas really talkin about on here?

And you know THESE MUTHAFUCKAS can't read because they're assuming I said Ross was a Legend now, when I clearly said, if Ross continues on the path he's on......in 5 years........I can see him being one.

LOL I hear you bruh. That's what they do though. They will ignore any logic you present and simply retort by questioning your "knowledge" of hip-hop and then assume that you cannot be older than 18. Expect to have ur intelligence questioned by individuals who didn't know what hip-hop was before 2003. Also expect Joe Buddens name to be mentioned before this thread reaches 10 pages.......