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boom;1987683 said:HOW THE FAWK can T.I. be fading out when he went GOLD in 6 weeks (much faster than Ross) WHILE HE WAS IN JAIL WITH NO PROMO!!!.. NIGGAS JUST BE TYPIN W/ NO THOUGHT TO WHAT THEY SAYING WHATSOEVER...
auraraps;1987686 said:they slept on my post. Lol
sionb55;1987658 said:Dayum how yall type so fast...
That's a bad contrast, how can u compare the declining sales of more established artists w/o taking into account Ross' declining sales as well to say that hes got a "better chance" to remain consistent ? thats inconsistent. Sales are usually a terrible gauge of value, shit looking at Tip, Luda, Wayne, Hov & Nas its easy to show the downward trend cuz hell NOBODY in music can sustain their hype forever (even madonna & mj couldnt match their pasts) but wat needs to be taken into account is the impact they had on the culture. Wayne can sell 500k on C4 & it wont mean shit cuz hes already got a track record, he co-founded the bling era, has a genuine image & has proved his weight in plat & gold already, Nas is a bonafide legend w/ the accolades to show for it & Tip n Luda done put it down & still have a good average where sales are concerned.
1 song, & lukewarm sales arent enuff. Tip, Luda & Jeezy's sales are declining but are Ross' not declining too ? lets be objective here folks. Sure the current rap climate should definitely be considered but there are other gauges outside of CDs (like ringtones, youtube hits, popular opinion, accolades, impact etc.) that better define one's success & relevance.
Great point & ur right, but iuno fam those cats left a huge impact especially UGK & too short. I cant see Ross jumping on radio shows & just speakin his mind no strings attached on sensitive topics & on hiphop as a whole in a similar way pimp c n others did. Ross dont bring social commentary to his music, he looove to talk about this illicit fantasy but doesnt sit down & explain it, which is understandable (hell thats his 'shtick' he cant w/o killing the fantasy). I agree that he'll be well respected & will be a prominent figure in the miami hiphop scene but legend ? no way , ill believe it wen i see it lol.
& ya on devil in a blue dress he definitely outshined on there. hes still young so thats a healthy sign that he can progress.
boom;1987683 said:HOW THE FAWK can T.I. be fading out when he went GOLD in 6 weeks (much faster than Ross) WHILE HE WAS IN JAIL WITH NO PROMO!!!.. NIGGAS JUST BE TYPIN W/ NO THOUGHT TO WHAT THEY SAYING WHATSOEVER...
jonathand;1987700 said:I get it. You truly don't even understand what legendary hip hop statues means. If anybody will a "2000s" legend, it will be Kanye. A nigga who actually sold records, made what people considered potential classics, showed diversity and actually excelled at it (808's), number 1 songs, etc. Basically all the shit Rick Ross hasn't done. You niggas up here can't be serious with idiocy like this.
deathrowzorrow;1987716 said:Illmatic It Was Written Stillmatic >>>>
jonathand;1987700 said:I get it. You truly don't even understand what legendary hip hop statues means. If anybody will a "2000s" legend, it will be Kanye. A nigga who actually sold records, made what people considered potential classics, showed diversity and actually excelled at it (808's), number 1 songs, etc. Basically all the shit Rick Ross hasn't done. You niggas up here can't be serious with idiocy like this.
b@squ1@t redux;1987717 said:lol @conveniently leaving out 50 as a future legend
AuraRaps;1987720 said:I don't even like Kanye's music, but I can't deny the impact hes had on the game. He defenetly gonna be a legend if he not already. But ross? These niggas are stupid.
Maalik;1987713 said:1. It was complete dogshit. The singles were corny as fuck. It seemed rushed.
2. He's been so caught up with legal troubles, it took 2 years to get a new release.
3. It went Gold. Paper Trail went 2x Platinum. Rappers have sold records from Prison before, so that's not an excuse (ex. Tupac)
4. Whole album was a bad look for someone of Tip's stature
Maalik;1987724 said:Coming from the nigga with 50 Cent in his AVI. You shouldn't criticize anyone's opinion on Hip Hop.
jonathand;1987700 said:I get it. You truly don't even understand what legendary hip hop statues means. If anybody will a "2000s" legend, it will be Kanye. A nigga who actually sold records, made what people considered potential classics, showed diversity and actually excelled at it (808's), number 1 songs, etc. Basically all the shit Rick Ross hasn't done. You niggas up here can't be serious with idiocy like this.
boom;1987691 said:glad you see the light bruh.. Shit seriously be makin me scratch my head when they say t.i. Fell off...