Illuminati Organizational Structure

[KTULU IS BACK]

control the world

nobody controls the world

 

[major pain]

which formed the bulk of beliefs for Freemasonry & Illuminati, which are all intertwined.

See, here is another example of you saying something that has little to no basis. Let me make this question very clear for you. WHAT BELIEFS (SPECIFICALLY) ARE YOU REFERRING TO? Or are you just talking in some broad general term that can apply to anyone?

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

Its never anything like that with me. Non-masons seem to believe that we are obligated to LIE about masonry, but in reality its an obligation to keep a secret. There is a difference there that I hope you see. I'll tell you this much, before any degree is conferred upon someone, he is assured (in a nutshell) that nothing in the obligation will affect his personal beliefs, religion, moral, or civic duties.

For example, if you ask me what the 2nd degree password is, I will flat out say I wont tell you that. If you really want to know, its for you to experience for yourself. I'll tell you now, the usual questions about details of the ritual I will not discuss. But, if you have a question, ask it, and I'll give you the best answer possible.

I am just curious to what you know about that image of the "Baphomet" that we dont. Thats all. Like what makes you so sure that the image is made up?

 

[major pain]

I am just curious to what you know about that image of the "Baphomet" that we dont. Thats all. Like what makes you so sure that the image is made up?

I've already spoken on that. To recap, there was no recorded history of this image. In the 18th centruy Eliphas Levi, literally drew an image for a book he wrote on black magic. That alone is the first documented image of this "Baphomet".

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

I've already spoken on that. To recap, there was no recorded history of this image. In the 18th centruy Eliphas Levi, literally drew an image for a book he wrote on black magic. That alone is the first documented image of this "Baphomet".

So he was an occultist and a freemason?

 

[major pain]

So he was an occultist and a freemason?

He wrote that before he was a mason. Even then, his association with masonry was VERY short. Once he could not substantiate the ideas he had about what masonry was he left the organization never to look back.

 

[anthony7q]

[video=youtube;Qj8741m2jLc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj8741m2jLc&feature=related[/video][video=youtube;Eaaubr3nnHI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eaaubr3nnHI[/video] These videos claim Bush is not only Illiminati but a reptillian shape-shifter.

 

[musicology1985]

[video=youtube;Qj8741m2jLc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj8741m2jLc&feature=related[/video][video=youtube;Eaaubr3nnHI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eaaubr3nnHI[/video] These videos claim Bush is not only Illiminati but a reptillian shape-shifter.

this is disinfo.

 

[musicology1985]

See, here is another example of you saying something that has little to no basis. Let me make this question very clear for you. WHAT BELIEFS (SPECIFICALLY) ARE YOU REFERRING TO? Or are you just talking in some broad general term that can apply to anyone?

I already answered this question earlier.

 

[Bully_Pulpit]

musicology, you seriously believe a bunch of boring guys who get together to play dress up and talk to their imaginary friend are somehow secretly ruling the entire world?

Money make the world go round and thats all that is needed to be said, I personally dont think these conspiracy "theories" are that far fetched. I cant really see what one has to gain by saying 911 was an inside job, but I can see what the elite stands to gain by saying 911 was an act of terrorism.

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

He wrote that before he was a mason. Even then, his association with masonry was VERY short. Once he could not substantiate the ideas he had about what masonry was he left the organization never to look back.

I was lookingup som info on Eliphas Levi and saw some interesting stuff....Won't say it all now. But interesting none the less. I also found this:http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0093/0093_01.asp

So you being a freemason and participating in certain rituals should be able to answer this. Is there ANY truth in this, or is it propaganda?

 

[major pain]

I was lookingup som info on Eliphas Levi and saw some interesting stuff....Won't say it all now. But interesting none the less. I also found this:http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0093/0093_01.asp

So you being a freemason and participating in certain rituals should be able to answer this. Is there ANY truth in this, or is it propaganda?

Definitely propaganda. They are taking some truths and twisting them. Too many to list all so ask something specific if you want to know.

 

[janklow]

naw, my argument holds definite weight. this society is the descendant of the Romans through Britain and modeled itself after that.

see, saying something and proving something are different things; you seem to think they're not

because they are fighting against Muslims for resources just like the Romans, Crusaders and later Italian City State Mercs. your Catholic/Christian kinds stays in west Asia pillaging and it has been that way since 1096 with breaks in between. everybody knows how y'all get down. many Muslims have acknowledged this.

the Romans were renowned for hiring mercenaries to fight Muslims? because their bigger issues seemed to lie elsewhere. more to the point, i suppose, is that you're still claiming this as if mercenaries haven't been used by basically every culture for various reasons.

how so when u use the same characters from the Latin alphabet which is tied into the earlier Etruscan and Phoenician one?

because you asked about the language i speak, not the alphabet i use to write. since you're claiming your argument is so rock-solid, i would THINK you'd have taken that into account... but actually, given your argument, i am not surprised you seem to have weird notions about the development of English.

yes it is. without the Roman Catholic expansion u would still be in Europe. white's have no proven history in being in America before the Spanish defeated the Moors by way of crusader experience and support. which formed the bulk of beliefs for Freemasonry & Illuminati, which are all intertwined.

of all the people to make random claims about "proven history," i don't think you're the best qualified to make them

no I drew the conclusions quite well. you and your allies just don't want to admit it. I didn't claim anything, I gave u historical & visual proof.

considering that your "visual proof" is either explained by non-conspiracy reasons or flat-out nonexistent (visual proof of the mercenary thing? terrible) and your historical proof is, to put it kindly, lacking, i'm going to go with what i said before. relevant portion: but it's not like anyone can point out errors to you, i suppose

 

[illword]

I read a lot & I'm well versed on my history & most of the things mentioned concerning the masonic I'm aware of. I'm also aware of the long history of prestigious elite people that are masons Presidents, Vice Presidents, Congressmen, Senators, IRS workers, Secret Service, CIA, FBI, NSA, Generals, hell most of the military which mean most law enforcement officers, firemen, doctors, a lot of the people that sit on the chairmen of boards, CEO's, Presidents, nurses, accountants, businessmen, teachers, professors, Deans of colleges, entertainers, I could go on & on & on. But when you get down to membership do it really get that deep? I mean, I know homeless people that are masons. I know fast food workers, college students, post office workers, inmates at county, State & federal prisons that are masons. I know people that are on welfare that are masons. I know people living in the inner city as well as the projects that are masons. The janitor is a mason, hair barbers, the gym instructor is a mason, hustlers, high school dropouts, I could go on & on with this as well. Hell, 3 out of 10 people you come in contact with are masons or eastern stars or they have family members that are. But the point I'm trying to make is do all these people know some big secret? Do the fast food worker or the high school dropout know the secrets of the world or are everybody living under the income of 8 or 7 figures nothing but cash cows for the organization.

 

[Ol Jay's]

I read a lot & I'm well versed on my history & most of the things mentioned concerning the masonic I'm aware of. I'm also aware of the long history of prestigious elite people that are masons Presidents, Vice Presidents, Congressmen, Senators, IRS workers, Secret Service, CIA, FBI, NSA, Generals, hell most of the military which mean most law enforcement officers, firemen, doctors, a lot of the people that sit on the chairmen of boards, CEO's, Presidents, nurses, accountants, businessmen, teachers, professors, Deans of colleges, entertainers, I could go on & on & on. But when you get down to membership do it really get that deep? I mean, I know homeless people that are masons. I know fast food workers, college students, post office workers, inmates at county, State & federal prisons that are masons. I know people that are on welfare that are masons. I know people living in the inner city as well as the projects that are masons. The janitor is a mason, hair barbers, the gym instructor is a mason, hustlers, high school dropouts, I could go on & on with this as well. Hell, 3 out of 10 people you come in contact with are masons or eastern stars or they have family members that are. But the point I'm trying to make is do all these people know some big secret? Do the fast food worker or the high school dropout know the secrets of the world or are everybody living under the income of 8 or 7 figures nothing but cash cows for the organization.

yeah someboy answer this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[musicology1985]

yeah someboy answer this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

somebody didn't read the thread. I have stated numerous times that I am not talking about all Freemasons. u have positive Freemasons & Negative ones, but there is an elite group of Freemason tied into the Scottish Peerage, House of Windsor, Order of the Garter & Thistle along with P2 Masonry, who are all involved in control of the world. I already said on the first page that there are Freemasons in all levels of society and it encourages the preservation of this current world order.

and quite frankly, Freemasonry is just ONE ASPECT of global control. but unfortunately, it is the one thing that people in large numbers wish to talk about all the time. Greek Letter Societies have been spread the same exact way (anybody can be one with a lil effort but it is still connected to the global elite) but for some odd reason it generates little to no interests.

 

[musicology1985]

see, saying something and proving something are different things; you seem to think they're not

the Romans were renowned for hiring mercenaries to fight Muslims? because their bigger issues seemed to lie elsewhere. more to the point, i suppose, is that you're still claiming this as if mercenaries haven't been used by basically every culture for various reasons.

because you asked about the language i speak, not the alphabet i use to write. since you're claiming your argument is so rock-solid, i would THINK you'd have taken that into account... but actually, given your argument, i am not surprised you seem to have weird notions about the development of English.

of all the people to make random claims about "proven history," i don't think you're the best qualified to make them

considering that your "visual proof" is either explained by non-conspiracy reasons or flat-out nonexistent (visual proof of the mercenary thing? terrible) and your historical proof is, to put it kindly, lacking, i'm going to go with what i said before. relevant portion: but it's not like anyone can point out errors to you, i suppose

man u just playing around nitpicking as usual. Rome has been in that region pillaging for thousands of years. only difference is, during the Roman Empire they a had a STRONG NATIVE SYRIAN FACTION that kept everyone in place, as well as others. since then? they have to go and take it by force repeatedly through war & diplomacy.

I said that your language can be traced back to Latin. that is fact. written language is still language. everybody in the world using Latin characters are under Roman Influence which is the source of a good western education. even your Germanic German cousins lived under Romanization for a thousand years during the Holy Roman Empire. Bavaria, the largest German state & home of Adam Weishupt, is still a Roman Catholic stronghold. England was in the earlier Roman Empire. the U.S. (as I have shown) is modeled after the Roman Empire. the Southern western European Countries & most of Latin America pledge allegiance to the Roman Catholic Church openly.

as far as visual & historical proof? it all sticks.

 

[KillaCham]

The Illuminati is a myth.

 

[musicology1985]

The Illuminati is a myth.

whatupkilla! good to see u stop by the social lounge and holla at us!

 

[major pain]

somebody didn't read the thread. I have stated numerous times that I am not talking about all Freemasons. u have positive Freemasons & Negative ones, but there is an elite group of Freemason tied into the Scottish Peerage, House of Windsor, Order of the Garter & Thistle along with P2 Masonry, who are all involved in control of the world. I already said on the first page that there are Freemasons in all levels of society and it encourages the preservation of this current world order.

and quite frankly, Freemasonry is just ONE ASPECT of global control. but unfortunately, it is the one thing that people in large numbers wish to talk about all the time. Greek Letter Societies have been spread the same exact way (anybody can be one with a lil effort but it is still connected to the global elite) but for some odd reason it generates little to no interests.

What you are saying doesnt hold up under the microscope though. Take this for example. Propaganda due, was carrying out illegal activities as a "secret" masonic lodge. If they were part of this plot to control the world, then they would most likely be protected from being caught, and exiled. Once they were discovered the Italian government went after them with everything they could and even published NAMES of the people involved in their dealings. The Grand Orient of Italy also revoked their charter upon hearing these allegations as well. They continued to operate on their own after their charter was revoked. So ask, now, why would they be exiled and exposed, if they were part of the "system" to control the world?

Along the lines of Italian masonic connections. A little known fact is that Mussolini, disbarred masonry at one point during his rule. Surely, a dictator and power hungry asshole like him would be part of the conspiracy right?