Illuminati Organizational Structure

[musicology1985]

So, still nothing right? Gotcha.

this statement is weak Pain. on the first page I explicitly stated that the UGLE serves as a foundation to many societies both secret and public.

 

[major pain]

this statement is weak Pain. on the first page I explicitly stated that the UGLE serves as a foundation to many societies both secret and public.

Ok, so..can..you..prove...that...

I can make statements too... Beyonce has 8 secret children that Jay-z doesnt know about. Someone might ask me to back up that statement with some evidence..... See how that works? Very simple. Now, if you cant, just say you cant.

 

[musicology1985]

Ok, so..can..you..prove...that...

I can make statements too... Beyonce has 8 secret children that Jay-z doesnt know about. Someone might ask me to back up that statement with some evidence..... See how that works? Very simple. Now, if you cant, just say you cant.

We already talked about it and we don't see eye to eye. Major u are acting like a Troll.

 

[major pain]

We already talked about it and we don't see eye to eye. Major u are acting like a Troll.

No, I'm just trying to give you ample opportunity to back up your statement with something tangible. I'm gonna go ahead and assume not, since if you did, you would have gladly posted it to shut me up. Good day, sir.

 

[musicology1985]

No, I'm just trying to give you ample opportunity to back up your statement with something tangible. I'm gonna go ahead and assume not, since if you did, you would have gladly posted it to shut me up. Good day, sir.

Good day to you as well.

 

["A Tout le Mond]

On a serious note, do you guys feel accomplished after "researching" all this?

 

[janklow]

what I am arguing is that the conflict in the near east with the west is a long one. yes the Italian mercs go back to the 1400's. but that same Italian region produced an earlier Roman occupation. I don't see what the flaw is. the connection is there.

the flaw is that you want to take very general concepts - say, mercenaries - and claim that their appearance is proof of a massive conspiracy, when said general concepts - say, mercenaries - have simpler explanations.

my statement still stands. the language u speak CAN be traced back to Latin. this is truth man. the English u speak has Romance language Old Norman in it. this is a fact. plus the characters u use are Latin. again, the connections are there.

it doesn't trace back to Latin in the manner you meant. and if your statements/connections WERE solid from the start, there wouldn't have been claims about the alphabet.

I been smashing my opponents the whole time man. y'all just can't admit it because it shakes the very foundation of what u represent.

i can usually tell when people don't have much to say when they spend a lot of time talking about "smashing their opponents" or anything else along those lines

no, you are wrong. you are in here trying to keep the truth hidden because you benefit from it. only u (an oil man) & janklow (a conservative) have stood against me because u have to

janklow's a moderate, and claiming i HAVE to "stand against you" is just pathetic

 

[major pain]

[QUOTE="A Tout le Monde";841402]On a serious note, do you guys feel accomplished after "researching" all this?[/QUOTE]

I think they do. Its just a shame that the results of the research usually amounts to a pile of shit.

 

[musicology1985]

[QUOTE="A Tout le Monde";841402]On a serious note, do you guys feel accomplished after "researching" all this?[/QUOTE]

Of course. Whether it's for public view or not, this is a good improvement because it puts history in it's proper context. this is a historical analysis of Illuminati, Enlightenment & overall Greco-Roman Civilization.

 

[musicology1985]

the flaw is that you want to take very general concepts - say, mercenaries - and claim that their appearance is proof of a massive conspiracy, when said general concepts - say, mercenaries - have simpler explanations.

No, the direct correlation is there Jank. this is not a general concept because we are blatantly seeing the same thing happen over and over again. Roman Empire invades. Then later on Christians from the same Roman region crusade and invade. Now Christians who are descended from Rome through Western Civilization invade again. Some of the Christians in Iraq right now are military & some are private contractors.

it doesn't trace back to Latin in the manner you meant. and if your statements/connections WERE solid from the start, there wouldn't have been claims about the alphabet.

In the manner I meant is EXACTLY WHAT I PROVED JANK. U just can't admit it. As usual.

i can usually tell when people don't have much to say when they spend a lot of time talking about "smashing their opponents" or anything else along those lines

Lol well I said it because it's true.

janklow's a moderate, and claiming i HAVE to "stand against you" is just pathetic

Western Civilization is why u have to stand against me & will continue to do so. That is really the pathetic part. And if anything u are a Conservative Moderate.

 

[musicology1985]

I think they do. Its just a shame that the results of the research usually amounts to a pile of shit.

Actually, A Tout le Monde was just asking a question Major Pain. You are showing much Vice.

 

[major pain]

Actually, A Tout le Monde was just asking a question Major Pain. You are showing much Vice.

I answered his question. And by talking to me, AGAIN, when I made no mention of YOU, you are showing that you cant "get off ma nuts".

 

[musicology1985]

I answered his question. And by talking to me, AGAIN, when I made no mention of YOU, you are showing that you cant "get off ma nuts".

see my thing is this. last night it seemed that we had ended the spat because I specifically asked u to leave and you consented numerous times man. u agreed to LEAVE. and then this morning you come in AGAIN with vile insults. you claimed to have been leaving but you obviously feel some type a way about this thread because u just. cant. leave. it. alone.

either that or u have a job to do (which is discredit & stop the flow of this thread.) like I said, u are suspect & very shady. and stop alluding to your phallus man. leave that to the women.

 

[major pain]

see my thing is this. last night it seemed that we had ended the spat because I specifically asked u to leave and you consented numerous times man. u agreed to LEAVE. and then this morning you come in AGAIN with vile insults. you claimed to have been leaving but you obviously feel some type a way about this thread because u just. cant. leave. it. alone.

either that or u have a job to do (which is discredit & stop the flow of this thread.) like I said, u are suspect & very shady. and stop alluding to your phallus man. leave that to the women.

PFFT... I actually said I would stop arguing with you about WHY the things you are saying were not correct. Someone ELSE asked a question, and I can CHOOSE to respond if I wish. I didnt say SHIT to you. If you took offense or feel insulted, I DONT GIVE A FUCK. This isnt a spat, you come on here say your opinion and I do the same.

As far stopping the flow of information, you STILL dont get it. There has been no FLOW of information as you have not PROVEN any of your BULLSHIT. Making a personal statement, and then making ANOTHER personal statement about the first does not PROVE the first. I've been telling you for a few days now, ALL I'm asking you to do is prove what you are saying. I'm PROMOTING the flow of information, but only factual, verifiable information. Not conjecture about Freemasonry by someone who IS NOT A MASON. Now, the moment you can come up with some HARD findings to prove the slightest of the shit I asked you SPECIFICALLY about, then I'll have a sensible discussion with you.

Posting pictures of people in BOWTIES is hardly evidence as anyone can throw on a bowtie and a suit. Hell you even used RAM in red regalia, when in the blue lodge a black suit is the normal regalia similar to the NoI. You dont even know where to begin LOOKING for similarities as your ideas are so broad and generalized. Saying both use the bible as a reference point does not mean anything as MANY groups use the bible as a reference point. Does that mean they also garnered their "structure" from masonry? I even gave you WAYS of helping you argument. I asked you specifically which verses do both organizations use for their "teachings" and etc.

Look, I get it, you're mad because I challenged your opinion. If you want people to accept everything you say, then I suggest you only talk to yourself because not everyone is going to believe you at first glance. Now, excuse me while I go count these Illuminati stacks, son!!!

 

[musicology1985]

Titanigraph of bullshit

I ain't reading all of that shit. you clearly said buh bye and some other weak shit on numerous occasions like u ethered me or something. but u just can't leave the thread alone because the truth hit u right in the chest. look, u know me and u ain't going no further, but u gone head and continue your trolling. I'm going to be the bigger man & let u do u.

Now, I've already proven my point with this thread & it is obvious that u have an agenda.

 

[musicology1985]

For those curious. I used Conspiracy Theory in order to do a thorough Historical Analysis of Western Civilization, also known as Greco-Roman.

 

[major pain]

I ain't reading all of that shit. you clearly said buh bye and some other weak shit on numerous occasions like u ethered me or something. but u just can't leave the thread alone because the truth hit u right in the chest. look, u know me and u ain't going no further, but u gone head and continue your trolling. I'm going to be the bigger man & let u do u.

Now, I've already proven my point with this thread & it is obvious that u have an agenda.

Yes, "buh bye", what I meant was you should leave real discussions to people that know how to have them. Stop ASSUMING so much. You're mad, it will be ok. Next time, before you make retarded accusations, bring something to the table with it. Now, you seem to want me gone from the conversation because you dont like what I'm saying. So who really has an agenda here?

 

[musicology1985]

Yes, "buh bye", what I meant was you should leave real discussions to people that know how to have them. Stop ASSUMING so much. You're mad, it will be ok. Next time, before you make retarded accusations, bring something to the table with it. Now, you seem to want me gone from the conversation because you dont like what I'm saying. So who really has an agenda here?

You were misleading with your statements. You made it seem as if you were leaving because this conversation was beneath u but it is obviously not. So by all means, stay as long as you like. Have the last word (which I know u want soooo badly lol)........ My agenda was to tell the truth, which I fulfilled. However I still have an ongoing exchange with Janklow to tend to.

And I'm not even going to get into the whole U MAD, I'M MAD, EVERYBODY MAD spat crap.

 

[major pain]

You were misleading with your statements. You made it seem as if you were leaving because this conversation was beneath u but it is obviously not. So by all means, stay as long as you like. Have the last word (which I know u want soooo badly lol)........ My agenda was to tell the truth, which I fulfilled. However I still have an ongoing exchange with Janklow to tend to.

And I'm not even going to get into the whole U MAD, I'M MAD, EVERYBODY MAD spat crap.

No, I'm not after the last word, it really doesnt matter. I enjoy these discussions actually. I use them to teach newer masons on how to talk about the craft. You think I'm messing around, but I really would entertain your thoughts with some relevant info. But these discussions ALWAYS end in people making accusations, but either backing them up with false info or not backing them up at all.

I mean hell I once had Lu-sey say on here that Prince Hall masonry does not have the Scottish and York rites. I mean JESUS how stupid does someone have to be to not research something like that before making that comment. People seem to think he is one of the more "intelligent" people around here. I use that as an example, of why taking people's words without scrutinizing them is silly. After I proved him wrong, he disappeared from the thread, arms and all never to be seen again.

BTW, Janklow seems to be saying something similar to what I'm saying just on a different topic.

 

[janklow]

No, the direct correlation is there Jank. this is not a general concept because we are blatantly seeing the same thing happen over and over again. Roman Empire invades. Then later on Christians from the same Roman region crusade and invade. Now Christians who are descended from Rome through Western Civilization invade again. Some of the Christians in Iraq right now are military & some are private contractors.

first off, the Romans used mercenaries before they were Christian, but you're basing your claim heavily on "Christians from the same Roman region." secondly, religion is not the motivation in just about all of the above. third, MERCENARIES ARE NOT UNIQUE TO THE WEST. i don't understand why you seem to think they are. it's not a direct correlation.

In the manner I meant is EXACTLY WHAT I PROVED JANK. U just can't admit it. As usual.

you stated something incorrectly and you won't admit that - instead falling back on this "in the manner i meant," which is meaningless - but you're telling me i won't admit something? garbage. and there's nothing for me to admit because a) i differentiate between "alphabet" and "spoken language" and b) English is clearly more Germanic than the average Romance language. you won't admit THAT because it disagrees with your theory ... and you have proven NOTHING.

Lol well I said it because it's true.

or lame. it's one of those.

Western Civilization is why u have to stand against me & will continue to do so. That is really the pathetic part. And if anything u are a Conservative Moderate.

it's pathetic to claim i HAVE to do this. and if anything, i'm a moderate.

generally, i don't spend my time ascribing you motivations and/or political stances, but that might be because i'm more about the topics and less about making stupid claims.

that said, i think we've all ruined this thread enough. STRIKE IT DOWN, WESTERN CIVILIZATION