If Ice Cube was from New York would he be considered better than Jay Z?

[semi-auto-mato]

but what u may not consider art some other folks will. there is no right or wrong to this shit. if u love em there is a reason for it and its ur own reason. if someone loves pac, or big, or jay, or nas, or wayne they have a reason for that. u just dont viewit the same as other people.

for the record jay not a thug...he's a hustler...there is a difference. his art is geared towards people with a hustler's mentality. when u say he has no substance his core audience wont agree with u. respect everyone's opinion. i respect urs. u crazy bout em and i dont see why but hey thats u. i have no reason to try and point out all of em's flaws.

 

[GunTown]

Yeah but he raps about being a thug as well as selling drugs

It's not just Jay Z's music i dislike it's other rappers with that style and formula as well such as Slaughterhouse, Cannibus, Fabolous, Jadakiss, Pusha T, Busta Rhymes, Cassidy

I like artistic rappers

 

[Jabu_Rule]

Yeah but he raps about being a thug as well as selling drugs

It's not just Jay Z's music i dislike it's other rappers with that style and formula as well such as Slaughterhouse, Cannibus, Fabolous, Jadakiss, Pusha T, Busta Rhymes, Cassidy

I like artistic rappers

But you stay talking about hood shit like you blimy bloaks be ruffling feathers.

 

[hnic1978]

Cube fell off hard after his double album, but his early catalog cant be fucked with.

No 1 has fell of harder in the history of hip hop than Jay Z has after The Blueprint

After that album he released extremley terrible albums like Blueprint 2, Kingdome Come, Blueprint 3, Magna Carter Holy Grail

Average albums like The Black Album

Below average albums like American Gangster

And the bullshit button has been pushed. Now the opinion of other albums can be whatever but Black Album and American Gangster are great albums. I can name u SEVERAL people whose dip in hip hop was WAAAAYYYY more severe than Jay's. Ummmmmm 50 Cent, Ja Rule, and EMINEM to name a few. Its funny that you say that but whenever Jay drops a song, featured on a song, or an album....EVERYBODY listens.

 

[hnic1978]

I just wanna see artistic rappers appreciated on the IC regardless of sales even someone like ZRO who may not sell much he is an artistic rapper

With Jay Z it's like this -

Freestyle three 16 Bar verses about selling cocaine being a cocaine king pin, money, cars, jewellrey, being a better rapper than other rappers, being a thug.

Use Punchlines, Entrendres, Similies, Word Play in the verses

Use a skippy Flow in the verses

Call an RnB singer like Alicia Keys, Mary J Blige, R Kelly, Justin Timberlake, Rihanna, Mariah Carey etc to write and feature performing the hook. Paying them a lotta money to feature and craft the hook

Call a producer like Timbaland, The Neptunes, Just Blaze, Kanye West, DJ Premier etc to produce the song. Paying them a lotta money to produce and mix the song

^^^^That is Jay Z's formula for a song and exactly what he does

yep you don't really listen to Jay.....now that's a fact.

 

[GunTown]

I just wanna see artistic rappers appreciated on the IC regardless of sales even someone like ZRO who may not sell much he is an artistic rapper

With Jay Z it's like this -

Freestyle three 16 Bar verses about selling cocaine being a cocaine king pin, money, cars, jewellrey, being a better rapper than other rappers, being a thug.

Use Punchlines, Entrendres, Similies, Word Play in the verses

Use a skippy Flow in the verses

Call an RnB singer like Alicia Keys, Mary J Blige, R Kelly, Justin Timberlake, Rihanna, Mariah Carey etc to write and feature performing the hook. Paying them a lotta money to feature and craft the hook

Call a producer like Timbaland, The Neptunes, Just Blaze, Kanye West, DJ Premier etc to produce the song. Paying them a lotta money to produce and mix the song

^^^^That is Jay Z's formula for a song and exactly what he does

yep you don't really listen to Jay.....now that's a fact.

Heard every album of his

 

[hnic1978]

I just wanna see artistic rappers appreciated on the IC regardless of sales even someone like ZRO who may not sell much he is an artistic rapper

With Jay Z it's like this -

Freestyle three 16 Bar verses about selling cocaine being a cocaine king pin, money, cars, jewellrey, being a better rapper than other rappers, being a thug.

Use Punchlines, Entrendres, Similies, Word Play in the verses

Use a skippy Flow in the verses

Call an RnB singer like Alicia Keys, Mary J Blige, R Kelly, Justin Timberlake, Rihanna, Mariah Carey etc to write and feature performing the hook. Paying them a lotta money to feature and craft the hook

Call a producer like Timbaland, The Neptunes, Just Blaze, Kanye West, DJ Premier etc to produce the song. Paying them a lotta money to produce and mix the song

^^^^That is Jay Z's formula for a song and exactly what he does

yep you don't really listen to Jay.....now that's a fact.

Heard every album of his

Okay and if the ONLY thing u can take out his albums is this......then u don't REALLY listen. You can't be in a lot of niggas top 5 without content.

 

[MrJR]

Jay Z said his basic rap topics are money drugs and hoes he has no inspirational song nothing to touch the masses

 

[GunTown]

Jay Z said his basic rap topics are money drugs and hoes he has no inspirational song nothing to touch the masses

Truth

 

[GunTown]

I just wanna see artistic rappers appreciated on the IC regardless of sales even someone like ZRO who may not sell much he is an artistic rapper

With Jay Z it's like this -

Freestyle three 16 Bar verses about selling cocaine being a cocaine king pin, money, cars, jewellrey, being a better rapper than other rappers, being a thug.

Use Punchlines, Entrendres, Similies, Word Play in the verses

Use a skippy Flow in the verses

Call an RnB singer like Alicia Keys, Mary J Blige, R Kelly, Justin Timberlake, Rihanna, Mariah Carey etc to write and feature performing the hook. Paying them a lotta money to feature and craft the hook

Call a producer like Timbaland, The Neptunes, Just Blaze, Kanye West, DJ Premier etc to produce the song. Paying them a lotta money to produce and mix the song

^^^^That is Jay Z's formula for a song and exactly what he does

yep you don't really listen to Jay.....now that's a fact.

Heard every album of his

Okay and if the ONLY thing u can take out his albums is this......then u don't REALLY listen. You can't be in a lot of niggas top 5 without content.

Like i said i heard every album from top to bottom listened to every song on his albums

I can put that on my sons life

He has 15 songs max with any kind of substance and those are terrible songs to me and he worst attempt i ever heard at trying to make songs with any substance

Majority of his songs 95% lack substance and depth and are mainly about selling drugs, money, wealth, materialsm, mafisio, being a thug etc

 

[hnic1978]

He doesn't touch the masses but he headlined a ROCK FESTIVAL in YOUR backyard GunTown........

 

[hnic1978]

But nope he doesn't reaches the masses......

 

[semi-auto-mato]

Yeah but he raps about being a thug as well as selling drugs

It's not just Jay Z's music i dislike it's other rappers with that style and formula as well such as Slaughterhouse, Cannibus, Fabolous, Jadakiss, Pusha T, Busta Rhymes, Cassidy

I like artistic rappers

ok we getting somewhere kinda...first its clear u dont know the difference between a hustler and a thug. since u dont understand the difference u cant really understand the artist. thats fine but dont try and make it seem like what u like is better. u say u like artistic rappers...well art depends on who is looking at it. i swear i see paintings online selling for hundreds of thousands of dollars and think damn i should have kept my daughters pre school paintings.

whats trash to u is great to someone else and whats great to u is trash to someone else. u make urself look very narrow minded when ur not open and when u dont understand just ask instead saying they are trash.

fab..pusha...jay come from the same lane...hustlers not thugs

 

[GunTown]

He doesn't touch the masses but he headlined a ROCK FESTIVAL in YOUR backyard GunTown........

I'm not a follower though just because a lotta people from my backyard think Jay Z is good i form my own opinions i'm not a follower

 

[GunTown]

Yeah but he raps about being a thug as well as selling drugs

It's not just Jay Z's music i dislike it's other rappers with that style and formula as well such as Slaughterhouse, Cannibus, Fabolous, Jadakiss, Pusha T, Busta Rhymes, Cassidy

I like artistic rappers

ok we getting somewhere kinda...first its clear u dont know the difference between a hustler and a thug. since u dont understand the difference u cant really understand the artist. thats fine but dont try and make it seem like what u like is better. u say u like artistic rappers...well art depends on who is looking at it. i swear i see paintings online selling for hundreds of thousands of dollars and think damn i should have kept my daughters pre school paintings.

whats trash to u is great to someone else and whats great to u is trash to someone else. u make urself look very narrow minded when ur not open and when u dont understand just ask instead saying they are trash.

fab..pusha...jay come from the same lane...hustlers not thugs

Wen i say i like artistic rappers i'm talking about these kinda rappers -

Eminem

ZRO

Kid Cudi

Devin The Dude

Bone Thugs & Harmony

DMX

They make music with substance, with emotions, rap about personal struggles, they not only rap but sing as well and sing their hooks, they make music that i can relate to, they have a lotta passion in their music, they write about various life problems they been through that i have as well. THey make songs that u can feel on a personal level

 

[DR. JEK]

I mean he has a better discography better subject matter 4 classic albums was apart of one the top 5 rap group ever and overall his music just bumps. So I'm guessing the only reason he isn't considered better cause he was born on the wrong side of the map. Lethal Injection>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any Jay Z album.

U had me until u said Lethal Injection>. Any real Cube fan knows Lethal Injection was ass cheeks compared to his previous albums. Matter of fact id say when LI came out is when Cube fans started deserting him.

Say what? Lethal injection was sick! Come on now, Ghetto bird and Lil ass Gee wasnt some Goat storytelling? Then you had bangers like Really doe, what can i do, you know how we do it, Bop Gun which ypi can still throw on at any backyard bar-be que in any hood in america and get multiple generations of folks moving, and even a concept to make it rough/ Make it smooth with K Dee

I cant cosign that, Lethal was actually one of his best joints

 

[blackgod813]

bow down

 

[semi-auto-mato]

Yeah but he raps about being a thug as well as selling drugs

It's not just Jay Z's music i dislike it's other rappers with that style and formula as well such as Slaughterhouse, Cannibus, Fabolous, Jadakiss, Pusha T, Busta Rhymes, Cassidy

I like artistic rappers

ok we getting somewhere kinda...first its clear u dont know the difference between a hustler and a thug. since u dont understand the difference u cant really understand the artist. thats fine but dont try and make it seem like what u like is better. u say u like artistic rappers...well art depends on who is looking at it. i swear i see paintings online selling for hundreds of thousands of dollars and think damn i should have kept my daughters pre school paintings.

whats trash to u is great to someone else and whats great to u is trash to someone else. u make urself look very narrow minded when ur not open and when u dont understand just ask instead saying they are trash.

fab..pusha...jay come from the same lane...hustlers not thugs

Wen i say i like artistic rappers i'm talking about these kinda rappers -

Eminem

ZRO

Kid Cudi

Devin The Dude

Bone Thugs & Harmony

DMX

They make music with substance, with emotions, rap about personal struggles, they not only rap but sing as well and sing their hooks, they make music that i can relate to, they have a lotta passion in their music, they write about various life problems they been through that i have as well. THey make songs that u can feel on a personal level

if you went thru the things they talk about then i understand ur reason for liking them. it would be nice for u to understand that some folks actually relate to other artist such as jay z. he is artistic as well. his music has substance to those who come from the same lane as him and share his way of thinking. u can not think that ur way is the only way or the best way. we do our best to compare these artist and decide who is better but saying things like one has substance or one has better content doesnt work. thats all opinion. in my mind em can rap but the things dude talks about are way way out there sometimes and im like damn this dude needs help for real. still he touches a bunch of folks like u so he is a great ARTIST. u gotta respect that some folks feel different than u do. stop trying to force feed ur feelings.

i will admit though u are great for comic relief...i often lol at ur post...keep up the good work

 

[GunTown]

Yeah but he raps about being a thug as well as selling drugs

It's not just Jay Z's music i dislike it's other rappers with that style and formula as well such as Slaughterhouse, Cannibus, Fabolous, Jadakiss, Pusha T, Busta Rhymes, Cassidy

I like artistic rappers

ok we getting somewhere kinda...first its clear u dont know the difference between a hustler and a thug. since u dont understand the difference u cant really understand the artist. thats fine but dont try and make it seem like what u like is better. u say u like artistic rappers...well art depends on who is looking at it. i swear i see paintings online selling for hundreds of thousands of dollars and think damn i should have kept my daughters pre school paintings.

whats trash to u is great to someone else and whats great to u is trash to someone else. u make urself look very narrow minded when ur not open and when u dont understand just ask instead saying they are trash.

fab..pusha...jay come from the same lane...hustlers not thugs

Wen i say i like artistic rappers i'm talking about these kinda rappers -

Eminem

ZRO

Kid Cudi

Devin The Dude

Bone Thugs & Harmony

DMX

They make music with substance, with emotions, rap about personal struggles, they not only rap but sing as well and sing their hooks, they make music that i can relate to, they have a lotta passion in their music, they write about various life problems they been through that i have as well. THey make songs that u can feel on a personal level

if you went thru the things they talk about then i understand ur reason for liking them. it would be nice for u to understand that some folks actually relate to other artist such as jay z. he is artistic as well. his music has substance to those who come from the same lane as him and share his way of thinking. u can not think that ur way is the only way or the best way. we do our best to compare these artist and decide who is better but saying things like one has substance or one has better content doesnt work. thats all opinion. in my mind em can rap but the things dude talks about are way way out there sometimes and im like damn this dude needs help for real. still he touches a bunch of folks like u so he is a great ARTIST. u gotta respect that some folks feel different than u do. stop trying to force feed ur feelings.

i will admit though u are great for comic relief...i often lol at ur post...keep up the good work

Yeah i can relate to those rappers it's the same with my friends they all relate to artists like Eminem, 2pac, Ice Cube, DMX, Lil Boosie etc

I can't relate to Jay Z's music

 

[GunTown]

Y'all JIgga WArriors never get bored of Jay Z's music?

I for the life can't understand how y'all like his music i find it incredibley boring and dull