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Best picture I could find, once you get up that flight there's a path to the left then another flight of steps
 
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291836 said:
its....JOHN B;8288614 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8287713 said:
its....JOHN B;8284731 said:
Anyone ever use citrulline malate? Just bought some I've read good things about it

Bruh the fitness industry is full of bullshit. Stop spending money on these imo. If your body is helathy and provided with healthy food and proper training you will get results.

I was a protien/creatine/preworkout/l carnitine/ combo guy. Since last year ive been only taking protein and i got the same to better results.

Imo the centerpiece of this fitness stuff is CLEAN EATING.

I agree eating right is the most important but I disagree with everything else, although there is a lot of bullshit in the industry not everything is, its on you to do the proper research and get your supps from a reputable supplier, I don't know what your story is maybe you were looking for a bargain and were using cheap shit or weren't using them right but facts are facts creatine and bcaa's are a must if you want to "maximize" results building muscle, not to say you can't get results without them

Unless your project is to compete imo you dont need them.

If you want to look like theses fitness models or bodybuilders here is what works :

Steroids

Clenbuterol

Winstrol

Hgh

Synthol

Insulin

Anti oestrogens

Anavar

Dianabol

Even cocain as a preworkout works very well

Mix that with clean eating and serious training and mont olympus is right near you.

The crap they sell to us in these fitness boutiques are just a way to steal our money.

20 minutes running/jump rope /kettlebell swing 》all these fat burners

Eating fruits and veggies 》 all these vitamins pills

Mental motivation and a good breakfast 》all these preworkouts

If you plan to be 100 % natural and not overspending in fitness / bodybuilding.

IMO.

Lol I'll pass on most of that shit, I'm going to try a test only cycle once
 
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291836 said:
its....JOHN B;8288614 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8287713 said:
its....JOHN B;8284731 said:
Anyone ever use citrulline malate? Just bought some I've read good things about it

Bruh the fitness industry is full of bullshit. Stop spending money on these imo. If your body is helathy and provided with healthy food and proper training you will get results.

I was a protien/creatine/preworkout/l carnitine/ combo guy. Since last year ive been only taking protein and i got the same to better results.

Imo the centerpiece of this fitness stuff is CLEAN EATING.

I agree eating right is the most important but I disagree with everything else, although there is a lot of bullshit in the industry not everything is, its on you to do the proper research and get your supps from a reputable supplier, I don't know what your story is maybe you were looking for a bargain and were using cheap shit or weren't using them right but facts are facts creatine and bcaa's are a must if you want to "maximize" results building muscle, not to say you can't get results without them

Unless your project is to compete imo you dont need them.

If you want to look like theses fitness models or bodybuilders here is what works :

Steroids

Clenbuterol

Winstrol

Hgh

Synthol

Insulin

Anti oestrogens

Anavar

Dianabol

Even cocain as a preworkout works very well

Mix that with clean eating and serious training and mont olympus is right near you.

The crap they sell to us in these fitness boutiques are just a way to steal our money.

20 minutes running/jump rope /kettlebell swing 》all these fat burners

Eating fruits and veggies 》 all these vitamins pills

Mental motivation and a good breakfast 》all these preworkouts

If you plan to be 100 % natural and not overspending in fitness / bodybuilding.

IMO.

Dude your just spewing what you here. Have you research what you just typed? If you did you wouldn't have listed 4 of those items separate from steroids. Steroids are either oral or injectable. Injectable being the preferred method. Insulin is taken with HGH and is highly dangerous to take if you don't know what you're doing. So many will not even bother with insulin. Synthol no one takes in training. No one who trains who is not competes even thinks of taking that shit. Anti Estrogen... you mean a PCT?? Such as Nolvadex, Clomid... Cocain is a pre work out? Okay you should never comment on what works in reguards to suppliments. Plain and simple steroids is not a short cut it is used to speed up recovery. You can not just take them and casually work out. Depending on your goals in Body Building you will eventually have to make a decision if you are willing to cross that line.
 
its....JOHN B;8291871 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291836 said:
its....JOHN B;8288614 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8287713 said:
its....JOHN B;8284731 said:
Anyone ever use citrulline malate? Just bought some I've read good things about it

Bruh the fitness industry is full of bullshit. Stop spending money on these imo. If your body is helathy and provided with healthy food and proper training you will get results.

I was a protien/creatine/preworkout/l carnitine/ combo guy. Since last year ive been only taking protein and i got the same to better results.

Imo the centerpiece of this fitness stuff is CLEAN EATING.

I agree eating right is the most important but I disagree with everything else, although there is a lot of bullshit in the industry not everything is, its on you to do the proper research and get your supps from a reputable supplier, I don't know what your story is maybe you were looking for a bargain and were using cheap shit or weren't using them right but facts are facts creatine and bcaa's are a must if you want to "maximize" results building muscle, not to say you can't get results without them

Unless your project is to compete imo you dont need them.

If you want to look like theses fitness models or bodybuilders here is what works :

Steroids

Clenbuterol

Winstrol

Hgh

Synthol

Insulin

Anti oestrogens

Anavar

Dianabol

Even cocain as a preworkout works very well

Mix that with clean eating and serious training and mont olympus is right near you.

The crap they sell to us in these fitness boutiques are just a way to steal our money.

20 minutes running/jump rope /kettlebell swing 》all these fat burners

Eating fruits and veggies 》 all these vitamins pills

Mental motivation and a good breakfast 》all these preworkouts

If you plan to be 100 % natural and not overspending in fitness / bodybuilding.

IMO.

Lol I'll pass on most of that shit, I'm going to try a test only cycle once

Before you try it are you aware that its like cocaine or any addictive druggs?

Especially if you get great reasults very quick : are you mentally strong enough to quit after that?

If not please dont take that cycle. It can be a pandora box bruh
 
its....JOHN B;8291858 said:
iKingGodGivBiz;8291794 said:
its....JOHN B;8284731 said:
Anyone ever use citrulline malate? Just bought some I've read good things about it

Gimmick. L-arginine is the best shit but even that can be found in watermelon. Eating right is my best suggestion. Read those little "Dummy" manuals, and one of them was called "Detoxicifying Your Life" or something. Imma go look for the ebook and post it here if I can find it or post an ebay link for purchase.

Citrulline is more effective at increasing plasma arginine levels than supplemental arginine, but I'm going to keep it strictly about my workout and diet in this thread, it seems to be anti supplement

This morning ran to the most elevated point of my city called high rock tower, from my house you got to run up a hill I call killer hill and few more small ones to get there, then I run down a large flight of stairs that leads to that tower from the other side of those highlands and backup then home, shit my ankles were fried still from a strenuous calf workout I did on Thursday there was some walking in between

Damn this is great bruh !!! See you dont need that shit.
 
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291892 said:
its....JOHN B;8291858 said:
iKingGodGivBiz;8291794 said:
its....JOHN B;8284731 said:
Anyone ever use citrulline malate? Just bought some I've read good things about it

Gimmick. L-arginine is the best shit but even that can be found in watermelon. Eating right is my best suggestion. Read those little "Dummy" manuals, and one of them was called "Detoxicifying Your Life" or something. Imma go look for the ebook and post it here if I can find it or post an ebay link for purchase.

Citrulline is more effective at increasing plasma arginine levels than supplemental arginine, but I'm going to keep it strictly about my workout and diet in this thread, it seems to be anti supplement

This morning ran to the most elevated point of my city called high rock tower, from my house you got to run up a hill I call killer hill and few more small ones to get there, then I run down a large flight of stairs that leads to that tower from the other side of those highlands and backup then home, shit my ankles were fried still from a strenuous calf workout I did on Thursday there was some walking in between

Damn this is great bruh !!! See you dont need that shit.

If I used citrulline malate before that run maybe there wouldn't have been any walking...lol just saying
 
its....JOHN B;8291902 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291892 said:
its....JOHN B;8291858 said:
iKingGodGivBiz;8291794 said:
its....JOHN B;8284731 said:
Anyone ever use citrulline malate? Just bought some I've read good things about it

Gimmick. L-arginine is the best shit but even that can be found in watermelon. Eating right is my best suggestion. Read those little "Dummy" manuals, and one of them was called "Detoxicifying Your Life" or something. Imma go look for the ebook and post it here if I can find it or post an ebay link for purchase.

Citrulline is more effective at increasing plasma arginine levels than supplemental arginine, but I'm going to keep it strictly about my workout and diet in this thread, it seems to be anti supplement

This morning ran to the most elevated point of my city called high rock tower, from my house you got to run up a hill I call killer hill and few more small ones to get there, then I run down a large flight of stairs that leads to that tower from the other side of those highlands and backup then home, shit my ankles were fried still from a strenuous calf workout I did on Thursday there was some walking in between

Damn this is great bruh !!! See you dont need that shit.

If I used citrulline malate before that run maybe there wouldn't have been any walking...lol just saying

Maybe. Try next time without it. However good job
 
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291887 said:
its....JOHN B;8291871 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291836 said:
its....JOHN B;8288614 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8287713 said:
its....JOHN B;8284731 said:
Anyone ever use citrulline malate? Just bought some I've read good things about it

Bruh the fitness industry is full of bullshit. Stop spending money on these imo. If your body is helathy and provided with healthy food and proper training you will get results.

I was a protien/creatine/preworkout/l carnitine/ combo guy. Since last year ive been only taking protein and i got the same to better results.

Imo the centerpiece of this fitness stuff is CLEAN EATING.

I agree eating right is the most important but I disagree with everything else, although there is a lot of bullshit in the industry not everything is, its on you to do the proper research and get your supps from a reputable supplier, I don't know what your story is maybe you were looking for a bargain and were using cheap shit or weren't using them right but facts are facts creatine and bcaa's are a must if you want to "maximize" results building muscle, not to say you can't get results without them

Unless your project is to compete imo you dont need them.

If you want to look like theses fitness models or bodybuilders here is what works :

Steroids

Clenbuterol

Winstrol

Hgh

Synthol

Insulin

Anti oestrogens

Anavar

Dianabol

Even cocain as a preworkout works very well

Mix that with clean eating and serious training and mont olympus is right near you.

The crap they sell to us in these fitness boutiques are just a way to steal our money.

20 minutes running/jump rope /kettlebell swing 》all these fat burners

Eating fruits and veggies 》 all these vitamins pills

Mental motivation and a good breakfast 》all these preworkouts

If you plan to be 100 % natural and not overspending in fitness / bodybuilding.

IMO.

Lol I'll pass on most of that shit, I'm going to try a test only cycle once

Before you try it are you aware that its like cocaine or any addictive druggs?

Especially if you get great reasults very quick : are you mentally strong enough to quit after that?

If not please dont take that cycle. It can be a pandora box bruh

Disagree with that coc comment, but trust me homie I do research everyday, got the pct, ai and supporting supps on deck, I'm getting a lot of calories and protein now but I want to calculate everything when I start the cycle and I also need to get blood work done before cycle and after pct, Im not wreckless im just ready to take it to another level, been doing this a long time
 
its....JOHN B;8291913 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291887 said:
its....JOHN B;8291871 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291836 said:
its....JOHN B;8288614 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8287713 said:
its....JOHN B;8284731 said:
Anyone ever use citrulline malate? Just bought some I've read good things about it

Bruh the fitness industry is full of bullshit. Stop spending money on these imo. If your body is helathy and provided with healthy food and proper training you will get results.

I was a protien/creatine/preworkout/l carnitine/ combo guy. Since last year ive been only taking protein and i got the same to better results.

Imo the centerpiece of this fitness stuff is CLEAN EATING.

I agree eating right is the most important but I disagree with everything else, although there is a lot of bullshit in the industry not everything is, its on you to do the proper research and get your supps from a reputable supplier, I don't know what your story is maybe you were looking for a bargain and were using cheap shit or weren't using them right but facts are facts creatine and bcaa's are a must if you want to "maximize" results building muscle, not to say you can't get results without them

Unless your project is to compete imo you dont need them.

If you want to look like theses fitness models or bodybuilders here is what works :

Steroids

Clenbuterol

Winstrol

Hgh

Synthol

Insulin

Anti oestrogens

Anavar

Dianabol

Even cocain as a preworkout works very well

Mix that with clean eating and serious training and mont olympus is right near you.

The crap they sell to us in these fitness boutiques are just a way to steal our money.

20 minutes running/jump rope /kettlebell swing 》all these fat burners

Eating fruits and veggies 》 all these vitamins pills

Mental motivation and a good breakfast 》all these preworkouts

If you plan to be 100 % natural and not overspending in fitness / bodybuilding.

IMO.

Lol I'll pass on most of that shit, I'm going to try a test only cycle once

Before you try it are you aware that its like cocaine or any addictive druggs?

Especially if you get great reasults very quick : are you mentally strong enough to quit after that?

If not please dont take that cycle. It can be a pandora box bruh

Disagree with that coc comment, but trust me homie I do research everyday, got the pct, ai and supporting supps on deck, I'm getting a lot of calories and protein now but I want to calculate everything when I start the cycle and I also need to get blood work done before cycle and after pct, Im not wreckless im just ready to take it to another level, been doing this a long time

Just by mentioning blood work i see you've done your research.

I just did a 4 month cycle and probably won't get back on until the end of the year looking to do Tren for the 1st time.

Frenchy talking about it being an addictive drug. Son thinks this an after school special

 
J-GUTTA;8291920 said:
its....JOHN B;8291913 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291887 said:
its....JOHN B;8291871 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291836 said:
its....JOHN B;8288614 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8287713 said:
its....JOHN B;8284731 said:
Anyone ever use citrulline malate? Just bought some I've read good things about it

Bruh the fitness industry is full of bullshit. Stop spending money on these imo. If your body is helathy and provided with healthy food and proper training you will get results.

I was a protien/creatine/preworkout/l carnitine/ combo guy. Since last year ive been only taking protein and i got the same to better results.

Imo the centerpiece of this fitness stuff is CLEAN EATING.

I agree eating right is the most important but I disagree with everything else, although there is a lot of bullshit in the industry not everything is, its on you to do the proper research and get your supps from a reputable supplier, I don't know what your story is maybe you were looking for a bargain and were using cheap shit or weren't using them right but facts are facts creatine and bcaa's are a must if you want to "maximize" results building muscle, not to say you can't get results without them

Unless your project is to compete imo you dont need them.

If you want to look like theses fitness models or bodybuilders here is what works :

Steroids

Clenbuterol

Winstrol

Hgh

Synthol

Insulin

Anti oestrogens

Anavar

Dianabol

Even cocain as a preworkout works very well

Mix that with clean eating and serious training and mont olympus is right near you.

The crap they sell to us in these fitness boutiques are just a way to steal our money.

20 minutes running/jump rope /kettlebell swing 》all these fat burners

Eating fruits and veggies 》 all these vitamins pills

Mental motivation and a good breakfast 》all these preworkouts

If you plan to be 100 % natural and not overspending in fitness / bodybuilding.

IMO.

Lol I'll pass on most of that shit, I'm going to try a test only cycle once

Before you try it are you aware that its like cocaine or any addictive druggs?

Especially if you get great reasults very quick : are you mentally strong enough to quit after that?

If not please dont take that cycle. It can be a pandora box bruh

Disagree with that coc comment, but trust me homie I do research everyday, got the pct, ai and supporting supps on deck, I'm getting a lot of calories and protein now but I want to calculate everything when I start the cycle and I also need to get blood work done before cycle and after pct, Im not wreckless im just ready to take it to another level, been doing this a long time

Just by mentioning blood work i see you've done your research.

I just did a 4 month cycle and probably won't get back on until the end of the year looking to do Tren for the 1st time.

Frenchy talking about it being an addictive drug. Son thinks this an after school special

A friend of mine also my source uses tren, just from seeing his results I can tell you you're going to love that shit
 
its....JOHN B;8291913 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291887 said:
its....JOHN B;8291871 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291836 said:
its....JOHN B;8288614 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8287713 said:
its....JOHN B;8284731 said:
Anyone ever use citrulline malate? Just bought some I've read good things about it

Bruh the fitness industry is full of bullshit. Stop spending money on these imo. If your body is helathy and provided with healthy food and proper training you will get results.

I was a protien/creatine/preworkout/l carnitine/ combo guy. Since last year ive been only taking protein and i got the same to better results.

Imo the centerpiece of this fitness stuff is CLEAN EATING.

I agree eating right is the most important but I disagree with everything else, although there is a lot of bullshit in the industry not everything is, its on you to do the proper research and get your supps from a reputable supplier, I don't know what your story is maybe you were looking for a bargain and were using cheap shit or weren't using them right but facts are facts creatine and bcaa's are a must if you want to "maximize" results building muscle, not to say you can't get results without them

Unless your project is to compete imo you dont need them.

If you want to look like theses fitness models or bodybuilders here is what works :

Steroids

Clenbuterol

Winstrol

Hgh

Synthol

Insulin

Anti oestrogens

Anavar

Dianabol

Even cocain as a preworkout works very well

Mix that with clean eating and serious training and mont olympus is right near you.

The crap they sell to us in these fitness boutiques are just a way to steal our money.

20 minutes running/jump rope /kettlebell swing 》all these fat burners

Eating fruits and veggies 》 all these vitamins pills

Mental motivation and a good breakfast 》all these preworkouts

If you plan to be 100 % natural and not overspending in fitness / bodybuilding.

IMO.

Lol I'll pass on most of that shit, I'm going to try a test only cycle once

Before you try it are you aware that its like cocaine or any addictive druggs?

Especially if you get great reasults very quick : are you mentally strong enough to quit after that?

If not please dont take that cycle. It can be a pandora box bruh

Disagree with that coc comment, but trust me homie I do research everyday, got the pct, ai and supporting supps on deck, I'm getting a lot of calories and protein now but I want to calculate everything when I start the cycle and I also need to get blood work done before cycle and after pct, Im not wreckless im just ready to take it to another level, been doing this a long time

So you will experience GREAT REASULTS, GREAT STRENGHT, ACCELERATED RECOVERY, GREAT GAINS.

Once you attain that will you be strong enough mentally to go back to the reality, i mean by that losing these supergains, superstrengh and highspeed recovery?

Thats what i meant when i talked about addiction. One cycle will not doing you any harm.
 
J-GUTTA;8291920 said:
its....JOHN B;8291913 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291887 said:
its....JOHN B;8291871 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291836 said:
its....JOHN B;8288614 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8287713 said:
its....JOHN B;8284731 said:
Anyone ever use citrulline malate? Just bought some I've read good things about it

Bruh the fitness industry is full of bullshit. Stop spending money on these imo. If your body is helathy and provided with healthy food and proper training you will get results.

I was a protien/creatine/preworkout/l carnitine/ combo guy. Since last year ive been only taking protein and i got the same to better results.

Imo the centerpiece of this fitness stuff is CLEAN EATING.

I agree eating right is the most important but I disagree with everything else, although there is a lot of bullshit in the industry not everything is, its on you to do the proper research and get your supps from a reputable supplier, I don't know what your story is maybe you were looking for a bargain and were using cheap shit or weren't using them right but facts are facts creatine and bcaa's are a must if you want to "maximize" results building muscle, not to say you can't get results without them

Unless your project is to compete imo you dont need them.

If you want to look like theses fitness models or bodybuilders here is what works :

Steroids

Clenbuterol

Winstrol

Hgh

Synthol

Insulin

Anti oestrogens

Anavar

Dianabol

Even cocain as a preworkout works very well

Mix that with clean eating and serious training and mont olympus is right near you.

The crap they sell to us in these fitness boutiques are just a way to steal our money.

20 minutes running/jump rope /kettlebell swing 》all these fat burners

Eating fruits and veggies 》 all these vitamins pills

Mental motivation and a good breakfast 》all these preworkouts

If you plan to be 100 % natural and not overspending in fitness / bodybuilding.

IMO.

Lol I'll pass on most of that shit, I'm going to try a test only cycle once

Before you try it are you aware that its like cocaine or any addictive druggs?

Especially if you get great reasults very quick : are you mentally strong enough to quit after that?

If not please dont take that cycle. It can be a pandora box bruh

Disagree with that coc comment, but trust me homie I do research everyday, got the pct, ai and supporting supps on deck, I'm getting a lot of calories and protein now but I want to calculate everything when I start the cycle and I also need to get blood work done before cycle and after pct, Im not wreckless im just ready to take it to another level, been doing this a long time

Just by mentioning blood work i see you've done your research.

I just did a 4 month cycle and probably won't get back on until the end of the year looking to do Tren for the 1st time.

Frenchy talking about it being an addictive drug. Son thinks this an after school special

Bruh for God sake just dont try Trenbolone bruh.!!!

Please dont take it!!!! Its not worth neither the money nor the results nor the side effects on your health.
 
Trenbolone Information

Article by mad_cereal_lover – MuscleTalk Moderator

TrenbolonePharmaceutical Name: Trenbolone Acetate / Trenbolone Enanthate / Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate / Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate

Common Brand/Trade/Slang Names: Tren, Fina, Para, Trenbolone

Chemical Structure: 17β-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one

Delivery Method: Injectable

Half Life: Ester dependant:

Trenbolone Acetate ~1 day

Trenbolone Enanthate, Hexahydrobenzlycarbonate, Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate - 5-6 days

Typical Vial doses: Normal range 67mg/ml to 250mg/ml

Background

Trenbolone is a very powerful steroid that has never been FDA approved for use in humans. It was originally developed as finaplex pellets for use as a vetinary product to be put under the skin of cattle. However over time bodybuilders have realised its unique properties and powerful benefits and it has become a favourite anabolic steroid for many, despite having more harsh side effects than most other steroids. Many people would convert the pellets into an injectable form, in a rather crude and dangerous manner that would neither be safe nor sterile, and poses many risks. However, despite being non-approved by the FDA, there are a number of respectable Underground Labs (UGLs) that produce quality injectable forms of trenbolone. For the user who understandably likes to stick to pharmaceutical grade steroids, unfortunately there is no such form of trenbolone available.

Trenbolone is a highly androgenic steroid, with binding to the Androgen Receptor (AR) in the region of three times as high as testosterone. It does not aromatise and so is not subject to estrogenic side effects. In addition to high androgenicity, it is also extremely anabolic too, thus is very good at building muscle mass, and retaining muscle mass in a calorie deficient mode. It is also thought that trenbolone inhibits cortisol production directly through the glucocorticoid receptors. Trenbolone is often found to be a body transforming drug, and also can aid a little in fat loss. This may be due to the very strong binding of trenbolone to the AR, which has been postulated to be one mechanism that results in the activation of fat loss pathways, possible through direct binding to fat cells' ARs. This makes trenbolone a favourite among bodybuilders for cutting, and in addition to these benefits, trenbolone usually results in large increases in strength due to its high androgenic effects.

Trenbolone although not converted to estrogen, does have progesteronic effects, which will be discussed further in the side effects section of this article.

Suggested Cycles / Uses

Typically today underground labs produce trenbolone acetate as 75g/ml or 100mg/ml. It is often recommended first-time users of trenbolone to use the faster acting acetate in case the side effects become too much for the user, they can then come off of the steroid very quickly and it is out of the system much quicker than, for example, the enanthate ester. For the novice user, 75mg or 100mg every other day (eod) is advised, however due to the acetate ester being even shorter than a propionate ester and the half life 1 day or less, to both reduce sides and aid gains, it is advisable that the user (if they can bear every day injections) injects trenbolone acetate every day (ed), at 37.5-50mg ed.

More advanced users may find that taking the trenbolone to amounts over 500mg per week has very desirable effects on strength and body composition, however note that the side effects will also increase with the increase in dose. Due to the negative effect that trenbolone has on libido, it is not generally recommended to take trenbolone without testosterone. However, one can take trenbolone for short periods without testosterone and introduce an aid such as Proviron (metsterolone) to help with the libido issues, along with proper extensive post cycle therapy (PCT) for recovery. A typical test-free cycle with trenbolone may include something like 600mg Primobolan per week, 400mg trenbolone enanthate per week, for 10 weeks, PCT starting 2 weeks after last injections. The enanthate ester and other similar esters of trenbolone can be injected twice per week.
 
SIDE EFFECTS OF TREN

"Sides varies from person to person.

Myself: Never had trenbolone cough. Do have sweating, day and night. Great strength increases in the Gym, followed by poor training endurance. Fatigue is near constant. Don't have much problem falling asleep, but I do have problems staying asleep. Severe muscle cramping - especially in the abs. Constant effort to maintain hydration. Acne of back and sides. Stomach issues, including a loss of appetite at times. Depression hit me after the end of my last trenbolone cycle, but not severe.

I think it's worth it. The improvement in the look and strength of my mucles is nothing short of amazing"

 
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"for me..I couldn't breathe, for 3 days heart raced to the point where I thought I was going to die =). Never again

Another tren user testimony"
 
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" I am on 350mg/week trenbolone A and I am having some aggression, sleep problems, I sweat like crazy , some zits and a whole lot of physical changes in my body. I am leaning out big time and my strength is through the roof. I love trenbolone and will use it again and again. I also have not had the cough either yet so that might freak me out a bit if it happens."

@J-GUTTA is it still woth it ?
 
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291940 said:
its....JOHN B;8291913 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291887 said:
its....JOHN B;8291871 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291836 said:
its....JOHN B;8288614 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8287713 said:
its....JOHN B;8284731 said:
Anyone ever use citrulline malate? Just bought some I've read good things about it

Bruh the fitness industry is full of bullshit. Stop spending money on these imo. If your body is helathy and provided with healthy food and proper training you will get results.

I was a protien/creatine/preworkout/l carnitine/ combo guy. Since last year ive been only taking protein and i got the same to better results.

Imo the centerpiece of this fitness stuff is CLEAN EATING.

I agree eating right is the most important but I disagree with everything else, although there is a lot of bullshit in the industry not everything is, its on you to do the proper research and get your supps from a reputable supplier, I don't know what your story is maybe you were looking for a bargain and were using cheap shit or weren't using them right but facts are facts creatine and bcaa's are a must if you want to "maximize" results building muscle, not to say you can't get results without them

Unless your project is to compete imo you dont need them.

If you want to look like theses fitness models or bodybuilders here is what works :

Steroids

Clenbuterol

Winstrol

Hgh

Synthol

Insulin

Anti oestrogens

Anavar

Dianabol

Even cocain as a preworkout works very well

Mix that with clean eating and serious training and mont olympus is right near you.

The crap they sell to us in these fitness boutiques are just a way to steal our money.

20 minutes running/jump rope /kettlebell swing 》all these fat burners

Eating fruits and veggies 》 all these vitamins pills

Mental motivation and a good breakfast 》all these preworkouts

If you plan to be 100 % natural and not overspending in fitness / bodybuilding.

IMO.

Lol I'll pass on most of that shit, I'm going to try a test only cycle once

Before you try it are you aware that its like cocaine or any addictive druggs?

Especially if you get great reasults very quick : are you mentally strong enough to quit after that?

If not please dont take that cycle. It can be a pandora box bruh

Disagree with that coc comment, but trust me homie I do research everyday, got the pct, ai and supporting supps on deck, I'm getting a lot of calories and protein now but I want to calculate everything when I start the cycle and I also need to get blood work done before cycle and after pct, Im not wreckless im just ready to take it to another level, been doing this a long time

So you will experience GREAT REASULTS, GREAT STRENGHT, ACCELERATED RECOVERY, GREAT GAINS.

Once you attain that will you be strong enough mentally to go back to the reality, i mean by that losing these supergains, superstrengh and highspeed recovery?

Thats what i meant when i talked about addiction. One cycle will not doing you any harm.

Yea I'll be good I don't have an addictive personality, I'm cutting alcohol out completely when I'm on it as well if anything it's going to be good for my health, I'm worried about my hairline that's it lol, it speeds up the receding process
 
LETS GET HEALTHY

LETS NOT GET DRUGGED UP FOR NOTHING

LETS NOT GET FOOLED BY THE BODYBUILDERS AND FITNESSMODELS AND THEIR UNREALISTIC BODIES.

LETS NOT FEEL EMASCULATED BY THESE FITNESS MAGAZINES AND THEIR PHOTOSHOPED PICS OF STARVED MODELS

LETS GET HEALTHY

LETS HAVE FONCTIONAL STENGH

LETS HAVE ENDURANCE

LETS TRAIN TILL OUR 50s

LETS STOP SPENDING OUR DOLLARS TO HIGH PRICED DANGEROUS DRUGS OR LOW PRICED DOCTORED HENCE MORE DANGEROUS DRUGS.

LETS GET HEALTHY

PEACE
 
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LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291946 said:
J-GUTTA;8291920 said:
its....JOHN B;8291913 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291887 said:
its....JOHN B;8291871 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291836 said:
its....JOHN B;8288614 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8287713 said:
its....JOHN B;8284731 said:
Anyone ever use citrulline malate? Just bought some I've read good things about it

Bruh the fitness industry is full of bullshit. Stop spending money on these imo. If your body is helathy and provided with healthy food and proper training you will get results.

I was a protien/creatine/preworkout/l carnitine/ combo guy. Since last year ive been only taking protein and i got the same to better results.

Imo the centerpiece of this fitness stuff is CLEAN EATING.

I agree eating right is the most important but I disagree with everything else, although there is a lot of bullshit in the industry not everything is, its on you to do the proper research and get your supps from a reputable supplier, I don't know what your story is maybe you were looking for a bargain and were using cheap shit or weren't using them right but facts are facts creatine and bcaa's are a must if you want to "maximize" results building muscle, not to say you can't get results without them

Unless your project is to compete imo you dont need them.

If you want to look like theses fitness models or bodybuilders here is what works :

Steroids

Clenbuterol

Winstrol

Hgh

Synthol

Insulin

Anti oestrogens

Anavar

Dianabol

Even cocain as a preworkout works very well

Mix that with clean eating and serious training and mont olympus is right near you.

The crap they sell to us in these fitness boutiques are just a way to steal our money.

20 minutes running/jump rope /kettlebell swing 》all these fat burners

Eating fruits and veggies 》 all these vitamins pills

Mental motivation and a good breakfast 》all these preworkouts

If you plan to be 100 % natural and not overspending in fitness / bodybuilding.

IMO.

Lol I'll pass on most of that shit, I'm going to try a test only cycle once

Before you try it are you aware that its like cocaine or any addictive druggs?

Especially if you get great reasults very quick : are you mentally strong enough to quit after that?

If not please dont take that cycle. It can be a pandora box bruh

Disagree with that coc comment, but trust me homie I do research everyday, got the pct, ai and supporting supps on deck, I'm getting a lot of calories and protein now but I want to calculate everything when I start the cycle and I also need to get blood work done before cycle and after pct, Im not wreckless im just ready to take it to another level, been doing this a long time

Just by mentioning blood work i see you've done your research.

I just did a 4 month cycle and probably won't get back on until the end of the year looking to do Tren for the 1st time.

Frenchy talking about it being an addictive drug. Son thinks this an after school special

Bruh for God sake just dont try Trenbolone bruh.!!!

Please dont take it!!!! Its not worth neither the money nor the results nor the side effects on your health.

Dude I'm 6 cycles in. I know about the side affects. That is the only reason I haven't already. 3 pins a week is some other shit. Most people that I've know to jump on Tren and feel it's to strong with the side affects jump off.
 
its....JOHN B;8291970 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291940 said:
its....JOHN B;8291913 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291887 said:
its....JOHN B;8291871 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8291836 said:
its....JOHN B;8288614 said:
LEMZPOCALYPSE;8287713 said:
its....JOHN B;8284731 said:
Anyone ever use citrulline malate? Just bought some I've read good things about it

Bruh the fitness industry is full of bullshit. Stop spending money on these imo. If your body is helathy and provided with healthy food and proper training you will get results.

I was a protien/creatine/preworkout/l carnitine/ combo guy. Since last year ive been only taking protein and i got the same to better results.

Imo the centerpiece of this fitness stuff is CLEAN EATING.

I agree eating right is the most important but I disagree with everything else, although there is a lot of bullshit in the industry not everything is, its on you to do the proper research and get your supps from a reputable supplier, I don't know what your story is maybe you were looking for a bargain and were using cheap shit or weren't using them right but facts are facts creatine and bcaa's are a must if you want to "maximize" results building muscle, not to say you can't get results without them

Unless your project is to compete imo you dont need them.

If you want to look like theses fitness models or bodybuilders here is what works :

Steroids

Clenbuterol

Winstrol

Hgh

Synthol

Insulin

Anti oestrogens

Anavar

Dianabol

Even cocain as a preworkout works very well

Mix that with clean eating and serious training and mont olympus is right near you.

The crap they sell to us in these fitness boutiques are just a way to steal our money.

20 minutes running/jump rope /kettlebell swing 》all these fat burners

Eating fruits and veggies 》 all these vitamins pills

Mental motivation and a good breakfast 》all these preworkouts

If you plan to be 100 % natural and not overspending in fitness / bodybuilding.

IMO.

Lol I'll pass on most of that shit, I'm going to try a test only cycle once

Before you try it are you aware that its like cocaine or any addictive druggs?

Especially if you get great reasults very quick : are you mentally strong enough to quit after that?

If not please dont take that cycle. It can be a pandora box bruh

Disagree with that coc comment, but trust me homie I do research everyday, got the pct, ai and supporting supps on deck, I'm getting a lot of calories and protein now but I want to calculate everything when I start the cycle and I also need to get blood work done before cycle and after pct, Im not wreckless im just ready to take it to another level, been doing this a long time

So you will experience GREAT REASULTS, GREAT STRENGHT, ACCELERATED RECOVERY, GREAT GAINS.

Once you attain that will you be strong enough mentally to go back to the reality, i mean by that losing these supergains, superstrengh and highspeed recovery?

Thats what i meant when i talked about addiction. One cycle will not doing you any harm.

Yea I'll be good I don't have an addictive personality, I'm cutting alcohol out completely when I'm on it as well if anything it's going to be good for my health, I'm worried about my hairline that's it lol, it speeds up the receding process

Do you bruh. At least you have been warned.

Be very very very carefull my brother.
 

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