IC court question: Is it feminism or lack of moral guidance

[jono]

If you are raised in a violence soaked environment then fighting is your normal.

Too much common sense here. You dont see this that often in suburban areas where the whole "mean girls" shtick is usually passive aggressive, snarky comments.

You see this shit in the hood and the projects where fighting and aggression is cultural.

 

[xxCivicxx]

1st wave feminism was a movement for female equality to males

2nd wave feminism was a movement for female superiority over males

 

[Westie]

So everyone who is saying that feminism is so bad, let's make this clear, y'all want women to have less rights than men? As of what? You don't want us to vote? What rights don't you want us to have?

if a woman does a job the same as a man....she should be promoted....iam ok with that.

do i think women should have equal rights..... outside or the working class....explain to me where they fall short.

third...you can vote, and all that.

i think the problem is some chick just want to take over on some just because shit. some are on a full time temper tantrum and not making sense.

I didn't say we don't have equal rights, for the most part. There is still a division in pay. There is still invasion of what men think women should do with their bodies.

Personally, I believe in gender roles but that's for me. If a woman wants her man to be at home with the kids then that's for their family as long as the man is cool with it. That's not my problem. The only thing feminism has to do with the dynamic of gender roles is the ability for a woman to choose what she wants to do. Whether it be a stay-at-home mom and wife, or ballbusting career bitch. Feminism in itself is only about equal rights. of course there are extreme views, on both sides. But that's not feminism.

I don't understand how feminism would be to blame for dumb ass women. People have been ignorant since the beginning of damn time. We just didn't have cell phones to capture it so we romanticize how things used to be.

 

[usmarin3]

This whole feminist shit is a joke to me, because white women don't give two shits about minority females. While them white feminist were protesting in the 60's they were shitting on black women.

Then you got these white bitches talking about being paid 78 cents on the dollar meanwhile minority women are getting 55 cents. Miss me with that feminist shit.

The feminism movement is a scam. They just use minority women to stand on their shoulders.

 

[kzzl]

Lack of guidance. Proper guidance mitigates most of the bullshit that comes people's way. It teaches how to handle those moments of conflict. It can even divert faux feminism.

These feminist are guilty of a lot of things, but I've never seen anything of them telling women to act this way. Not to mention you've got plenty of feminist who don't act a fool out in public. And on top of that, they're fighting other women in these videos, since when does feminism promote that. These chicks are just trashy and don't know any better.

 

[Westie]

I'm cool with equal rights but some a lot of y'all be on some next shit -

cool with being equal but also cool with having a man trick on y'all and be obligated to support a grown ass woman.

That's somebody's choice though. I know women who would never take a dime from a man. I don't see how that has anything to do with feminism. That is about personal relationships.

 

[Westie]

This whole feminist shit is a joke to me, because white women don't give two shits about minority females. While them white feminist were protesting in the 60's they were shitting on black women.

Then you got these white bitches talking about being paid 78 cents on the dollar meanwhile minority women are getting 55 cents. Miss me with that feminist shit.

The feminism movement is a scam. They just use minority women to stand on their shoulders.

There is definitely a division regarding race, that doesn't mean equal rights shouldn't apply to black women as well. Intersectionality in feminism is 100% a problem, that doesn't take away the necessity for attention to the issue, there just needs to be more inclusion.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

If you are raised in a violence soaked environment then fighting is your normal.

Too much common sense here. You dont see this that often in suburban areas where the whole "mean girls" shtick is usually passive aggressive, snarky comments.

You see this shit in the hood and the projects where fighting and aggression is cultural.

they get it in in the burbs too bruh..dont be fooled

 

[jono]

If you are raised in a violence soaked environment then fighting is your normal.

Too much common sense here. You dont see this that often in suburban areas where the whole "mean girls" shtick is usually passive aggressive, snarky comments.

You see this shit in the hood and the projects where fighting and aggression is cultural.

they get it in in the burbs too bruh..dont be fooled

Read what I said again.

 

[blackrain]

Lack of moral guidance. Feminism is about equality so unless they're out here trying to prove that bitches can fight just as good as dudes then this shit ain't got nothing to do with equality lol.

 

[deadeye]

 

[deadeye]

Poor upbringing and lack of a strong father figure.

 

[deadeye]

INB4 @desertrain10 says it's due to the benevolent sexism that exists in a patriarchal society.

 

[deadeye]

So everyone who is saying that feminism is so bad, let's make this clear, y'all want women to have less rights than men? As of what? You don't want us to vote? What rights don't you want us to have?

@Westie

That's not the aspect of feminism being discussed.

Nobody's arguing against any of those points.

It's the benevolent sexism, chivalry, patriarchal society type foolishness that's the problem.

 

[Westie]

So everyone who is saying that feminism is so bad, let's make this clear, y'all want women to have less rights than men? As of what? You don't want us to vote? What rights don't you want us to have?

@Westie

That's not the aspect of feminism being discussed.

Nobody's arguing against any of those points.

It's the benevolent sexism, chivalry, patriarchal society type foolishness that's the problem.

Equal rights is the only aspect of actual feminism there is.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Imo being a woman is about essence, and the essence of woman comes in many forms. Women being able to vote and get the same pay and pay half for shit etc shouldn't be a bearing on that essence. You can be rigid af but the sexiest woman ever.. cuz her essence is feminine, and she is respected for it. That is what I think is being lost in feminism; the essence of woman, and we really need more of it.

 

[desertrain10]

If you consider women showing their thighs and voting a sign of moral decline, there is a case to be made that feminism has been a bad thing for this country

However if like myself you believe that morality is primarily how we treat each other, we as country, planet are on a steady incline

Violence has been declining. There is less race hatred, less religious turmoil and less genocide

More work to be done.... but just looking at how young ppl have been showing so much compassion and focus on how others are treated with initiatives such as BLM we are headed for better days

 

[7figz]

I'm cool with equal rights but some a lot of y'all be on some next shit -

cool with being equal but also cool with having a man trick on y'all and be obligated to support a grown ass woman.

That's somebody's choice though. I know women who would never take a dime from a man. I don't see how that has anything to do with feminism. That is about personal relationships.

When it's somebody's personal decision to put a woman on a pedestal (or whatever) in a relationship, that's they biz but when laws treat relationships / marriages / families as such, then it's a problem. For instance, some dude might believe in his wife not working and then paying spousal support when they divorce and that shit is bogus to me so if I get divorced, I don't want some bitch ass judge / laws telling me I gotta live by that shit.

When I see a woman claim feminist and then support double-standards that benefit them more then I question their motivation - do they want "equality" or just to get over ?

 

[7figz]

Imo being a woman is about essence, and the essence of woman comes in many forms. Women being able to vote and get the same pay and pay half for shit etc shouldn't be a bearing on that essence. You can be rigid af but the sexiest woman ever.. cuz her essence is feminine, and she is respected for it. That is what I think is being lost in feminism; the essence of woman, and we really need more of it.

I thought Essence magazine was only for Black women ? Don't do your white sistren like that.

Nah I'm fuckin' wit you. Are you saying that feminism is killing y'all femininity ?

 

[Westie]

I'm cool with equal rights but some a lot of y'all be on some next shit -

cool with being equal but also cool with having a man trick on y'all and be obligated to support a grown ass woman.

That's somebody's choice though. I know women who would never take a dime from a man. I don't see how that has anything to do with feminism. That is about personal relationships.

When it's somebody's personal decision to put a woman on a pedestal (or whatever) in a relationship, that's they biz but when laws treat relationships / marriages / families as such, then it's a problem. For instance, some dude might believe in his wife not working and then paying spousal support when they divorce and that shit is bogus to me so if I get divorced, I don't want some bitch ass judge / laws telling me I gotta live by that shit.

When I see a woman claim feminist and then support double-standards that benefit them more then I question their motivation - do they want "equality" or just to get over ?

The thing is, spousal support has nothing to do with feminism. Men receive spousal support when the woman is the primary breadwinner. Feminism has nothing to do with that shit.