How Come Mid 90s NY Rap Didn't Sell?

[saracenwire]

Because no one knew who nas was. You're making it seem like every west coast rapper was selling 5 mil every album. It was basically just three guys, tupac, dre and snoop and it took tupac three albums before he really started moving units.

 

[its....JOHN B]

Because no one knew who nas was. You're making it seem like every west coast rapper was selling 5 mil every album. It was basically just three guys, tupac, dre and snoop and it took tupac three albums before he really started moving units.

Ether

 

[joshrock]

I can't call it. I bought each of those albums, except Jay-Z and AZ, on the Tuesday they came out at The Wiz across from Kings Plaza. Still have each original copy too.

 

[grYmes]

The sun Rises in the east is the only album you posted that didn't go at least gold.

Yeah but albums on the West were going multiplat.

Illmatic got 5 mics in The Source. How come it didn't go gold until much later?

Illmatic was heavily bootlegged. It's one of the greatest albums ever but it's biggest single was what? "One Love" maybe? The casual rap fan at the time just wasn't gravitated to it. That goes for a lot of shit that wasn't from NYC. Resurrection & Southernplayaistccadillacmusik didn't sell very big either.

You also gotta account for the fact that pop/alternative rock/ and R&B was doing big numbers too. Rap wasn't the most dominant genre likeit ended up being a few years later.

 

[5 Grand]

Because no one knew who nas was. You're making it seem like every west coast rapper was selling 5 mil every album. It was basically just three guys, tupac, dre and snoop and it took tupac three albums before he really started moving units.

Nah Coolio went plat on his first album It Takes a Thief and 2X plat with Gangstas Paradise (Fantastic Voyage and Gangstas Paradise were huge in Boston)

Regulate...G Funk Era went 3X Plat

Lethal Injection went Platinum

Dogg Food went 2X Plat

Bottom line West Coast rap was outselling East Coast rap until 97 when Puffy took over. Bad Boy sold 30 Million units in 1997 because they had a formula; they sampled hits from the 80s and had a R&B chick sing the chorus. But what I want to know is how come albums like Illmatic, Only Built For Cuban Linx and The Sun Rises In The East weren't making people go to the record store and copping.

 

[Ether44mag]

Easy answer that shit was too advanced lyrically for casual rap fans who only reacted when they heard the words "weed" "hoes" "alcohol" in the hook and its a know fact there are more dumb people than smart ones in the world so lol I was actually mad when I started seeing white people bumpin Nas when IWW came out I was like what the fuck they know about that shit ? they was lovin "if I ruled the world" because of lauryn

 

[BlackAX410]

Mafioso rap was creative genius yall can get on the fuck up outta here

Italians don't like black people like that some songs were cool but a lot of it was doing too much at 1 point

 

[BenjaminE]

This is part of a @5grand series of threads where he poses a question with an obvious answer to make it look as if you are admitting that since west coast music was more popular than east coast boom bap with the casual music buying public that boom bap is some how more intellectual and legit than music from any other region...

I'm from the west and we hold old school hip hop in high regards... get off your isolated high horse...

 

[HerbalVaporCapers]

This is part of a @5grand series of threads where he poses a question with an obvious answer to make it look as if you are admitting that since west coast music was more popular than east coast boom bap with the casual music buying public that boom bap is some how more intellectual and legit than music from any other region...

I'm from the west and we hold old school hip hop in high regards... get off your isolated high horse...

I didn't know you were from the turf. Where on the west coast are you from?

 

[5 Grand]

This is part of a @5grand series of threads where he poses a question with an obvious answer to make it look as if you are admitting that since west coast music was more popular than east coast boom bap with the casual music buying public that boom bap is some how more intellectual and legit than music from any other region...

I'm from the west and we hold old school hip hop in high regards... get off your isolated high horse...

How old are you?

Do you even remember the mid 90s?

 

[BenjaminE]

This is part of a @5grand series of threads where he poses a question with an obvious answer to make it look as if you are admitting that since west coast music was more popular than east coast boom bap with the casual music buying public that boom bap is some how more intellectual and legit than music from any other region...

I'm from the west and we hold old school hip hop in high regards... get off your isolated high horse...

I didn't know you were from the turf. Where on the west coast are you from?

Dago...

 

[BenjaminE]

This is part of a @5grand series of threads where he poses a question with an obvious answer to make it look as if you are admitting that since west coast music was more popular than east coast boom bap with the casual music buying public that boom bap is some how more intellectual and legit than music from any other region...

I'm from the west and we hold old school hip hop in high regards... get off your isolated high horse...

How old are you?

Do you even remember the mid 90s?

I was born in 83... yes, I remember the mid 90s...

 

[5 Grand]

This is part of a @5grand series of threads where he poses a question with an obvious answer to make it look as if you are admitting that since west coast music was more popular than east coast boom bap with the casual music buying public that boom bap is some how more intellectual and legit than music from any other region...

I'm from the west and we hold old school hip hop in high regards... get off your isolated high horse...

How old are you?

Do you even remember the mid 90s?

I was born in 83... yes, I remember the mid 90s...

So you were a teen. You can probably explain it better than I can. I was in my 20s and we used to laugh at West Coast rappers. We thought New York rappers could rap circles around West Coast rappers.

 

[BenjaminE]

This is part of a @5grand series of threads where he poses a question with an obvious answer to make it look as if you are admitting that since west coast music was more popular than east coast boom bap with the casual music buying public that boom bap is some how more intellectual and legit than music from any other region...

I'm from the west and we hold old school hip hop in high regards... get off your isolated high horse...

How old are you?

Do you even remember the mid 90s?

I was born in 83... yes, I remember the mid 90s...

So you were a teen. You can probably explain it better than I can. I was in my 20s and we used to laugh at West Coast rappers. We thought New York rappers could rap circles around West Coast rappers.

It's that we shit I have a problem with... stop speaking for a whole coast and generalizing...

Tell you what... I told you I'd take your turntables off your hands for 40... I'll throw in another $10 if you use it to subscribe to Netflix, take your 5 grand kids to the library and watch The Get Down... thank me later...

 

[saracenwire]

I don't think anyone is disputing the fact that the west was more popular at that point, only that new york was more successful then you are giving them credit for. Wu-tang went double platinum with their first album, LL cool J was selling two mill on every album, Biggie went 5 times platinum with his first album which came out in 94, and thats not even factoring in the beastie boys who were massive stars. To make it seem like New York was a non factor is just false.

 

[nycest_1]

mid 90s rap is some of the highest selling shit. i think the lazy threadstarter means early 90s

 

[a_list]

Shyt sold, it just wasnt going multi plat etc.....Really cant call it though...I would say the gritty sampling but 36 Chambers, Tical, Onyx, Naughty By Nature {Jersey} and a few others tell me otherwise....Westcoast sound was just in at that time...

 

[nycest_1]

Shyt sold, it just wasnt going multi plat etc.....Really cant call it though...I would say the gritty sampling but 36 Chambers, Tical, Onyx, Naughty By Nature {Jersey} and a few others tell me otherwise....Westcoast sound was just in at that time...

most of what you listed is early 90s though.

 

[CapitalB]

Mafioso rap was creative genius yall can get on the fuck up outta here

"hey son.. lets watch a mafia movie.. but not jus once.. 20x's B! and even tho they callin us niggers monkeys and mooleys in it lets write raps as if we were them kid.!!?"

"word!!?"

creative genius my ass! :joy: :joy:

 

[CapitalB]

This is part of a @5grand series of threads where he poses a question with an obvious answer to make it look as if you are admitting that since west coast music was more popular than east coast boom bap with the casual music buying public that boom bap is some how more intellectual and legit than music from any other region...

I'm from the west and we hold old school hip hop in high regards... get off your isolated high horse...

How old are you?

Do you even remember the mid 90s?

I was born in 83... yes, I remember the mid 90s...

So you were a teen. You can probably explain it better than I can. I was in my 20s and we used to laugh at West Coast rappers. We thought New York rappers could rap circles around West Coast rappers.

funny..

we use to laugh at East Coast rappers..

u niggas wasnt havin no money..

u niggas wasnt gettin no bitches..

jus a bunch of niggas huddled up havin sword fights and callin it a cypher or some shit. lol

yall niggas was homies over hoes..

we was "but we dont love these hoes" lol