How Come Mid 90s NY Rap Didn't Sell?

[qawshun]

It really wasn't commercial sounding for the most part.

This. Not to mention the bootleg factor,

 

[illestni99ainne]

Niggas wasnt trying to hear that lyrical miracle shit, just like now IMO. I never heard none of them joints till 00's personally and westcoast was running shit much like the South is now.

this.

niggas wasnt tryin to hear that wanna be mafia shit either.

meanwhile we on the westcoast on some real live gangsta shit!!

drinkin 40s

ridin clean..

fuckin on bitches.

sayin fuck the world!

how can u not relate??

Nigga west coast niggas and down south niggas especially was on some Maffia shit too fam

 

[HerbalVaporCapers]

Niggas wasnt trying to hear that lyrical miracle shit, just like now IMO. I never heard none of them joints till 00's personally and westcoast was running shit much like the South is now.

this.

niggas wasnt tryin to hear that wanna be mafia shit either.

meanwhile we on the westcoast on some real live gangsta shit!!

drinkin 40s

ridin clean..

fuckin on bitches.

sayin fuck the world!

how can u not relate??

Nigga west coast niggas and down south niggas especially was on some Maffia shit too fam

Gang shit? Of course we were/are on that out west

But pretending to be Italian? Nah homie

 

[moyo]

East coast boom bap rap wasn't as commercially viable or had the crossover appeal of west coast g-funk shit. Preemo and Pete Rock were still at that time heavily sampling James Brown and jazz music, and it made for a denser harder sound. Whereas Dre, Dj quik and other west coast artists were sampling Parliamment, Isley bros, Ojays, etc and using live musicians for a more crisper funkier sound that resonated with everybody. Peep, even my mama Nem liked G-funk shit, but everybody wasn't gonna be feeling a Jeru the damaja record by Preemo. Puff peeped that out and used that g-funk live musician formula wit Biggie and the rest is history.

 

[CapitalB]

Niggas wasnt trying to hear that lyrical miracle shit, just like now IMO. I never heard none of them joints till 00's personally and westcoast was running shit much like the South is now.

this.

niggas wasnt tryin to hear that wanna be mafia shit either.

meanwhile we on the westcoast on some real live gangsta shit!!

drinkin 40s

ridin clean..

fuckin on bitches.

sayin fuck the world!

how can u not relate??

Nigga west coast niggas and down south niggas especially was on some Maffia shit too fam

who what when where my nigga!?

 

[CapitalB]

Niggas wasnt trying to hear that lyrical miracle shit, just like now IMO. I never heard none of them joints till 00's personally and westcoast was running shit much like the South is now.

this.

niggas wasnt tryin to hear that wanna be mafia shit either.

meanwhile we on the westcoast on some real live gangsta shit!!

drinkin 40s

ridin clean..

fuckin on bitches.

sayin fuck the world!

how can u not relate??

Nigga west coast niggas and down south niggas especially was on some Maffia shit too fam

who what when where my nigga!?

 

[CapitalB]

maybe Master P..

but nah..

we didnt worship italians._.

 

[MECCA1000]

The chronic ...... dr dre coming off of the nwa run ..... the hype was already there plus the push from the label

Illmatic didn't have the label push ...it had to bubble slow on the street

 

[AggieLean.]

Master P was probably the only Southern or Western artist to be on that mob sht...but that nigga bit and copied everyone, so

 

[bck145]

The west coast sound was so much more crisp and clean....it flowed much better....a lot of mid 90's new York rap sounds real similar and thrown together

 

[AggieLean.]

That west coast/g funk sound was/is dope tho. Them niggas was rapping and the sht sounded good musically.

First time I remember hearing a west coast artist rapping over a Bootsy Collins type record. Nigga was snapping his fingers and sht like Snoop on Baby Boy

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Shit Warren G saved Def Jam

 

[its....JOHN B]

Those albums didn't have big first weeks but they still all sold very well given the climate back then. How can you say "lyrical Hip-Hop" didn't sell when Public Enemy, ATCQ, NaS, 36 Chambers were consistently multi platinum. I dont think niggas understand how huge the Wu was. They were what Dipset was to the early 2000s but bigger, I remember I had the Wu-Tang clan video games on PlayStation fam - VIDEO GAMES.

Bruh sega Genesis was still hot in the streets when 36 chambers dropped, maybe Meth and ODB were selling on their debut but Wu wasn't really moving units until WU forever, and Illmatic didn't go plat until a decade later if I'm not mistaken

 

[HerbalVaporCapers]

maybe Master P..

but nah..

we didnt worship italians._.

Facts

Only mafia shit I ever heard on a record out west was Crenshaw Mafia


Shout out to Lil Hawk

 

[its....JOHN B]

Mafioso rap was creative genius yall can get on the fuck up outta here

 

[DR. JEK]

36 Chambers

The Sun Rises In The East

Illmatic

Hard To Earn

Reasonable Doubt

Illadelph Halflife

Do or Die

Midnight Marauders

Most of those albums didn't go gold when they were released. And if they went gold they didn't go platinum.

In contrast, Doggystyle, Me Against The World, All Eyes On Me, Regulate...The G-Funk Era, It Takes a Thief, those albums all sold multiplatinum at the time.

It seemed like New York was in a bubble and the other 49 states preferred West Coast rap.

What is it about that boom bap sound that people don't like?

Nigga what it is is everybody don't have to just only listen to boom bap just because you like that shit. I do too but not all the time. Fans probably reflect the way I view music more than How they reflect how you listen to music. See the Westcoast came in with good rappers AND a fresh new sound that was a contrast to that New York stuff that was starting to sound repetitive and you guys had so many groups out with the same kinda beats. It's like fuckin overkill of boom bap. That's why New York was losing in the mid 90's. Not because the rappers weren't good. It's because nobody was innovative when it came to an alternative sound. The difference between me and you is I like alotta the hip hop you like but not all the time...you can't get enough of just that and don't have an ability to be versital enough to give your own ears a break and appreciate a west coast or southern sound. Sometimes you want some music to chill and smoke a blunt and talk to bitches to. Who the hell mingles with the opposite sex with a Jeru the fuckin Damaga sound in the background? Are you kidding me dude? Hell nawl you need that Dominio "sweat potato pie" or that "Summertime in the LBC" stuff

 

[T. Sanford]

36 Chambers

The Sun Rises In The East

Illmatic

Hard To Earn

Reasonable Doubt

Illadelph Halflife

Do or Die

Midnight Marauders

Most of those albums didn't go gold when they were released. And if they went gold they didn't go platinum.

In contrast, Doggystyle, Me Against The World, All Eyes On Me, Regulate...The G-Funk Era, It Takes a Thief, those albums all sold multiplatinum at the time.

It seemed like New York was in a bubble and the other 49 states preferred West Coast rap.

What is it about that boom bap sound that people don't like?

Nigga what it is is everybody don't have to just only listen to boom bap just because you like that shit. I do too but not all the time. Fans probably reflect the way I view music more than How they reflect how you listen to music. See the Westcoast came in with good rappers AND a fresh new sound that was a contrast to that New York stuff that was starting to sound repetitive and you guys had so many groups out with the same kinda beats. It's like fuckin overkill of boom bap. That's why New York was losing in the mid 90's. Not because the rappers weren't good. It's because nobody was innovative when it came to an alternative sound. The difference between me and you is I like alotta the hip hop you like but not all the time...you can't get enough of just that and don't have an ability to be versital enough to give your own ears a break and appreciate a west coast or southern sound. Sometimes you want some music to chill and smoke a blunt and talk to bitches to. Who the hell mingles with the opposite sex with a Jeru the fuckin Damaga sound in the background? Are you kidding me dude? Hell nawl you need that Dominio "sweat potato pie" or that "Summertime in the LBC" stuff

This is what hard for them to decipher. They think boom bap can satisfy every mood. That's why I know niccas be lying if they think they're a militant hip hop head. When they are at the club, mobbing & bobbing to music that come from a different region. Different types of sounds for different moods, ain't nobody trying to get ready for Friday/Saturday night nightlife to some Mic Geronimo

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Boom bap wasn't and isn't New York only sound

 

[saracenwire]

The sun Rises in the east is the only album you posted that didn't go at least gold. And in what fucking world were Tribe or the roots "boom Bap". Or Gangstarr for that matter, they were working with jazz back then.

 

[5 Grand]

The sun Rises in the east is the only album you posted that didn't go at least gold.

Yeah but albums on the West were going multiplat.

Illmatic got 5 mics in The Source. How come it didn't go gold until much later?