Grant Hill’s Response to Jalen Rose

[blackrain]

Steph was getting contracts left n right bruh, he turned dat shyt down cuz he was thinking of bigger pictures ,When the Celtics offered him a contract for 2009-2010 he turned it down saying it was a business decision. A few years previous he said he'd rather "own than be owned." He is focused and carrying out his business plan - niggaz think marbury is just a ignorant dude from BK...he's from the home of hustlers...

good info drop...I know Steph had business stuff lined up that's why I didn't say he was stupid, just that he had well documented attitude/teammate problems throughout his career and that him not being in the league isn't some great conspiracy like some people think it is...

 

[blackrain]

dem niggaz was foul 4 that... donnie is on his way out n so d'antoni...niggaz could badd mouth isiah all they want @ least he never pulled some lame shyt like that..zeke is the reason why alot of niggaz r set 4 life.... rose has that street aura n he's a face of the leauge...

that's because Jalen Rose can sit down and have a conversation with you without resorting to shit like getting loud, name calling, and doing other shit people do when they can't express themselves...though i'm curious to know, who was running the Knicks during the Pat Riley days because they were alot more "thuggish" then getting into fights with the Bulls, then Heat and Charlotte Hornets like it was nothing...Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley were the poster children for what the NBA considered dirty play back then and they were on NBA on NBC every Sunday

 

[mosaveli]

Smh @ niggas backing Grant now like that note wasnt some bitchniggashit.... Jalen said what he thought when he was 18. Grant is a grown ass nigga poppin shit AFTER he had already spoken to the Rose. Herbs moves.

 

[ghost!]

and tupac was a Thespian in artsy school. but nah. i didn't know that. fuck boston

the mean streets of boston

Slow your roll partna..if u dont know about boston or this so-call mean streets keep that way...niggas dont play out here!

niggas just off like 4 ppl off of a bad drug deal, execution style..and one of them was a 2 year old....

 

[ghost!]

Because it's how he felt at 17-18 yrs old. Doesn't mean he still felt that way when filming the Fab 5 Doc. I would have done the same thing. When the time came to talk about a certain event in my life and all involved in it..I would have talked about how I felt at the time, what my perspective of certain people, because THAT was part of that experience. Not to mention, Jalen and them was gettin letter callin them Niggers, Coon, and whatever else at the time...shit anything could have triggered how he was feeling.

and that's all well and good.. i mean the program just came out, what you expect g.hill not to respond?...i mean aren't they cool...its the same response most katz would give dumb niggas now calling other katz coons...

sht it gets used in this site and it's laughable to me...cuz i'm sure the persons on the other side aint ish to be calling anyone out their name.

die when niggas award ignorance..i dont care what age you are...ignorance is ignorance...no diss to jalen..but i gotta keep it REAL

 

[WhoisDonG???]

Man bottomline G.Hill had explain to some of these ignorant dudes that think having a education is Uncle Tom or coonery. Because thats his school where he played. Uncle Tom is a preception another tool to further divide us. We still hung up on the have and have nots. Funny thing its been going on sense slavery but we still dont get it. We should commending brothers of G.Hill cloth. Not calling him a herb ass.nigga or coon.

 

[goat334]

Its proof that the 'acadmics' and 'pivate university' excuse is bullshyt.

The mentality and snobness of Duke is specific to just that school

Michigan is a GREAT school, just as white as Duke, but their fans dont act like that.

Duke's yuppy rep is b/c of who they are, not just b/c they r white

They might not act like Duke fans, but they aren't any better.....fans/alumn of UM and Notre Lame swear they are better than anybody on the planet. Especially when football is involved.

 

[blackrain]

Man bottomline G.Hill had explain to some of these ignorant dudes that think having a education is Uncle Tom or coonery. Because thats his school where he played. Uncle Tom is a preception another tool to further divide us. We still hung up on the have and have nots. Funny thing its been going on sense slavery but we still dont get it. We should commending brothers of G.Hill cloth. Not calling him a herb ass.nigga or coon.

you do realize that the Fab 5 went to Michigan right...that's no cake walk of a school and it wasn't going to school that Jalen Rose and others have criticized Duke's BASKETBALL program for...he didn't think Grant Hill was a bitch because he went to a good school because Jalen Rose went to a good school to in Michigan, he thought he was a bitch/soft because of the basketball team he represented

 

[blackrain]

the term "uncle tom" refers to blacks who are subservient to white people...
Duke has a rep of recruiting safe, nonthreatening brothers...
if you know this and still choose their program, is it not inbounds to suggest that you have a little "yessah" in your blood?
BTW i dont think Grant is a "Tom"...
and being from a stable family is not what being a "tom" is about...
lets stop acting like we dont know what is meant by "uncle tom"...
it has nothing to do with being successful, it is about being corny, fake, and soft in terms of how you deal with white ppl...

exactly...i said it earlier in this thread the term Uncle Tom was the "wrong" one to use because of what it means literally, but Jalen Rose's use of the word isn't far off from how it's normal meaning is thought to be

 

[ibedamned]

the neighborhood of Georgetown in general doesn't represent DC...Georgetown is it's own little world in Northwest DC...hell for people who live here we actually take the time to say "I'm going into Georgetown" like it's actually outside the city as opposed to any other part of DC it's just "I'm headed into the city"

I know, when i first got out here, i swear i thought it was like an Island, now I even say that shit "bout to go to georgetown, and eat" like its seperate from dc, i was confused at first cuz i saw DC police, and was like "i thought this was georgetown"

 

[ibedamned]

Smh @ niggas backing Grant now like that note wasnt some bitchniggashit.... Jalen said what he thought when he was 18. Grant is a grown ass nigga poppin shit AFTER he had already spoken to the Rose. Herbs moves.

THank you, they were speaking their point of view as kids man. I thought it was clear when he was speaking, and if you didnt get his point you fuckin dumb. Real talk, at that time he was sayin some real shit, alot of ppl from where im from felt the same way. You didnt see "Regular" black dudes at duke back then. you had to turn on Gtown, UNLV of UM, thats why they had such hughe followings back then from black america because they spoke to us. Duke and the brothas they had on their predominantly white teams just didnt speak to everyday blacks at the time, Grant Hill got his panties in a bunch over jalen speakin what was real at the time. he didnt know that ppl felt like that because he was livin what most of us werent at the time, and thats not a bad thing.

 

[blackrain]

I know, when i first got out here, i swear i thought it was like an Island, now I even say that shit "bout to go to georgetown, and eat" like its seperate from dc, i was confused at first cuz i saw DC police, and was like "i thought this was georgetown"

lol ironically Georgetown used to be one of the most heavily populated black areas until the gentrified it a long time ago and moved in not just upper class white folks but upper class black folks too...i used to intern at a law firm in Georgetown and that's not a place you want to be if you don't have any money...will make you feel real broke to see a pair of shoes sitting in the window for your weekly check lol...once you hit that part of Wisconsin Ave in NW everything changes...even the roads are paved...the ONLY place in DC/PG County where all the roads are paved lol

 

[blackrain]

THank you, they were speaking their point of view as kids man. I thought it was clear when he was speaking, and if you didnt get his point you fuckin dumb. Real talk, at that time he was sayin some real shit, alot of ppl from where im from felt the same way. You didnt see "Regular" black dudes at duke back then. you had to turn on Gtown, UNLV of UM, thats why they had such hughe followings back then from black america because they spoke to us. Duke and the brothas they had on their predominantly white teams just didnt speak to everyday blacks at the time, Grant Hill got his panties in a bunch over jalen speakin what was real at the time. he didnt know that ppl felt like that because he was livin what most of us werent at the time, and thats not a bad thing.

it's almost like the same reason some people didn't like the Cosby show...it didn't personally represent them, it wasn't a bad image it just wasn't the image of the black family that they saw everyday

 

[ibedamned]

it's almost like the same reason some people didn't like the Cosby show...it didn't personally represent them, it wasn't a bad image it just wasn't the image of the black family that they saw everyday

GREAT POINT! Chris Brousssard is about to cry on First and 10 right about now.

 

[ibedamned]

Chris Broussard is going in...

That nigga is clownin right now, but i still jalen point was relavant tho.

 

[VulcanRaven]

Anybody that thought the Cosby Show did not represent black people are ignorant.My step father grew up in that type of house hold and his mother is a nurse and his father was successful.Dr Ben Carson over at Johns Hopkins is a real life Dr Husktable.The Jim Rome looking lights skinned nigga was right in everything he said.It's funny how educated and successful black people are called sellouts,but druggies,dope dealers and cons are praised as being REAL niggas.SM! Not to go Social Lounge in here,but blacks hold themselves back in these times.

 

[VulcanRaven]

That nigga is clownin right now, but i still jalen point was relavant tho.

No it was not relevant.Jalen was an ignorant nigga out the hood who was filled with self hate and jealousy.Also they did not have a complete POV as kids,because they were at the bottom and never been in the other position.

 

[blackrain]

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/20...ntroversial-comments-and-the-reality-of-duke/
great article about both Grant Hill and Jalen Rose's comments

Take a journey with me back to the late 80s. Obama is not the president. Rap and hip-hop is not yet mainstream. Dr. King gave his “I Have a Dream” speech about twenty years prior, but John Thompson is JUST NOW breaking ground as a black coach in college basketball.

Now let’s personalize it a little bit.

You are in high school and you live with your mom and a few siblings. Your father was a professional athlete that never wanted anything to do with you. You attend a high school that is, well, let’s just say “urban.” You are a great ballplayer. In fact, you are one of the ten best recruits in the nation. Your idols are the “Bad Boys Pistons” who make their living by intimidating their opponents physically, mentally, and verbally. You get recruited to go to college near your home. Four other top-notch high schoolers sign with you.

Now you are in college. Freshmen simply don’t get big time minutes at legit programs, but three of you are in the starting line up from day one. Your team resents you. You don’t like wearing underwear to play basketball in, so you ask your coach if you can get longer shorts. People that hate change resent you. Eventually, your coach bucks the trend and gives all five of you starting roles. This makes national news, and the response is that people all over the country, but especially alumni from your own school hate you. They call you the N-Word. They tell you to leave their school. They tell you that you are a cancer to their program…even though you are winning and making the school tons of money.

Remember. You are 18 years old.

In your mind, the entire world is against you. (And let’s just be honest, who WAS on their side at that point?)

Now you have the opportunity to play the defending champions. A team whose best player, a white guy, is basically worshipped around the country. A team that didn’t recruit you or three of your teammates, even though you were all in the top 50 of the country. A team whose most visible black guy comes from a wealthy family and had a father that was a professional athlete.

 

[blackrain]

No it was not relevant.Jalen was an ignorant nigga out the hood who was filled with self hate and jealousy.Also they did not have a complete POV as kids,because they were at the bottom and never been in the other position.

I was jealous of Grant Hill. He came from a great, black family. Congratulations. Your mom went to college and was roommates with Hilary Clinton. Your dad played in the NFL and was a very well-spoken and successful man. I was upset and bitter that my mom had to bust her hump for 20 plus years. I was bitter that I had a professional athlete that was my father that I didn’t know. I resented that more so than I resented him. I looked at it as, “they are who the world accepts and we are who the world hates.”

he readily admitted that in the documentary...people just seem to ignore the fact that he's clearly able to better state how he felt at 18 now because he's 38

 

[ghost!]

it's almost like the same reason some people didn't like the Cosby show...it didn't personally represent them, it wasn't a bad image it just wasn't the image of the black family that they saw everyday

It's called striving to be man..just cuz you blk dont mean you gotta think your against the world..there's nigs in the ghetto trying to come out the ghetto...

it's not white to be educated and doing well for yourself...it's a goal for all man

I watch the cosby show and never paid attention to their jobs on the show, just thought the ish was funny.