George Lucas: "Hollywood is still RACIST" (Problems with getting "Red Tails" Made)

[blackrain]

Yes, but in this country there are more whites than blacks. Whites will identify and relate to whites on screen, other nationalities in this country are also brainwashed into thinking anything white is good. Hence there are always going to be more "white" films than "black" films....I mean how many "latino" movies are there?

THere was a study done a while ago, whites are more likely to see a film with a white lead or majority white casts than a black lead or all black casts...even when they didn't realize "why" they were choosing the white majority film, they still chose it

 

[blackrain]

Kinda annoys me when ppl say.. zippy shit like HOPE ITS DOPE!..

this is a movie based on real events historical context yadda, yadda.. while it wont be 100% factual,... this isnt Hangover .. its history i can understand what your are saying to a degree ... but appreciate one of our stories being told..

its common,.. an also a copout .. also annoys me .. to say "its not about race" its about.. class .. its about money..

but what if it's simply not a good movie (not saying it will be, i plan on seeing Red Tails and have for a while)? What if the acting is bad, or whatever? Should black people still go rush out to see it just because it's a black cast? I'm all for supporting movies with black directors, black leads, and all that...it's great, but it seems like often people want blacks to support an inferior product simply because it's black produced...and that's just stupid

 

[HustleThaDon]

What's goin' on with you red tails, mane.

Foxx ruined this nigga for me. I can't watch him without laughing ever again.

Im coming for you Mr Hitler, mane.

What's going on with these planes mane? lmao

As soon as I seen the commercial for this movie that's what I thought of.

 

[nujerz84]

did u watch 300? corny ass lines throughout, including in the trailers. How well did that bs do?

Nope and I still havent watch the flick in its entirety whenever its been on TV....Try again.

 

[ocelot]

wtf r u talking about?

black people support movies with all white casts... and show me proof that niggas dont support good black movies... we were supporting good black movies all through out the 90's...

Dude that was back in the 90s... One of the GOAT eras... I'm talking about now... Where we still don't know why Kim K is famous

That new keke and queen latifa movie is not gonna do numbers...In the 90s it would have

Not all black people support a all white cast if there's no talent.... I don't see niggas talking about the next Jennifer Aniston movie

If Red Tails had denzel and will smith in it it would do numbers... Terrence Howard and Cuba??? And you want people to invest in your movie?

It's business

 

[Catalyst2012]

but what if it's simply not a good movie (not saying it will be, i plan on seeing Red Tails and have for a while)? What if the acting is bad, or whatever? Should black people still go rush out to see it just because it's a black cast? I'm all for supporting movies with black directors, black leads, and all that...it's great, but it seems like often people want blacks to support an inferior product simply because it's black produced...and that's just stupid

most people of all races do that. they just copy what the next person is doing.

 

[rapmastermind]

THere was a study done a while ago, whites are more likely to see a film with a white lead or majority white casts than a black lead or all black casts...even when they didn't realize "why" they were choosing the white majority film, they still chose it

What's crazy is in a similar study they showed that blacks, latinos and asians had no issues with seeing an all white cast as well as seeing films of their background. So why is it that only White People have a problem with minority films and cast? People don't see an issue with that. So it's ok for us to be forced to watch them but when it comes to our films they don't bother to show up unless it's a Comedy or a negative stereotype of us. There is something wrong with that.

Also for those saying we need to support our films. We do, why do think "Boyz In the Hood", "X" and other black films made the money they made it was cause Blacks always supported our films. The only Black Films whites seem to go to are Comedies, they love seeing Blacks act a fool. I'm happy it was someone like George that said this so now they can't pull the "Oh they are pulling the race card, they are anrgy, they need to get over slavery" talk they always say. Now that it's someone like George, the whole industry is shook right now. George don't give a damn, he don't need the clout or the money cause he's already a living legend in entertainment. He really aired out the industry with this. Rumors are going that a lot big time executives are really mad at George for this story right now. George Ghetto Pass just got a lifetime reinstatement.

 

[playmaker88]

but what if it's simply not a good movie (not saying it will be, i plan on seeing Red Tails and have for a while)? What if the acting is bad, or whatever? Should black people still go rush out to see it just because it's a black cast? I'm all for supporting movies with black directors, black leads, and all that...it's great, but it seems like often people want blacks to support an inferior product simply because it's black produced...and that's just stupid

uh no... but you dont know its not a good movie till you see it correct.. if people can flock to corny mindless comedies surely they can check this out.. fact is if this movie was dressed differently the forward perception and"excitement" of a new war movie would be exponentially greater

 

[playmaker88]

ghetto pass though...

lets just call it support.....

 

[rapmastermind]

ghetto pass though...

lets just call it support.....

LOL, you know that's a joke man, George's clout in saying this really just validated what a lot of black actors and film makers have been saying for years. Outside of Steven Speilberg saying this, he's probably the next biggest person in Hollywood that could of said something like this and it have impact. His Lifetime Box Office gross is over 10 Billion Worldwide. Only Steven has sold more.

 

[playmaker88]

LOL, you know that's a joke man, George's clout in saying this really just validated what a lot of black actors and film makers have been saying for years. Outside of Steven Speilberg saying this, he's probably the next biggest person in Hollywood that could of said something like this and it have impact. His Lifetime Box Office gross is over 10 Billion Worldwide. Only Steven has sold more.

lol. from you i believe but their are alot of negroes that ride or die with "knighting" honorary negroes,, and beleieve in the mythical hood pass

 

[ocelot]

black people go to all the big movies... stop the fuckry... and if u r talking about that Queen Latifah and Dolly Parton movie...smh@that being good or worthy of support...

Black people will go see big movies if its good... Just like white people... Everything isn't race nigga...

White people saw Ray right?... Precious?... Slum Dog Village?... Crouching Tiger?...

What about that Tom Hanks Julia Roberts movie... No one saw that... Why because even though it mite be a good movie they are not big time actors...

While Ryan Reynolds is still making movies...

It's Business...

 

[bmoreeast]

This movie was very dope came out in the mid-90's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Airmen

History of Tuskegee Airman

[video=youtube;BpA6TC0T_Lw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpA6TC0T_Lw[/video]

"Red Tails" trailer

What Kills me is these Hollywood executives always use the excuse that Black Cast and Black Directors don't make money at the box office yet White Directors and White actors get to flop over and over again and still get funding and projects made. It's funny that a film about Black Hero's doesn't get made but a film like "The Help" which is about Black Maids from a book can get green lit with no problem. "Glory" is a great film but it's true that the White Actors highlighted the film and Denzel and Morgan out shinned everyone, glad Denzel won the Oscar for that. SMH @ George Lucas (Red Tails) and Spielberg (The Color Purple) making better Black Flims than Tyler Perry. Spike was right all along, It's sad that his message get tainted cause the media has demonized him and his opinions on racist Hollywood. Let's see what White America has to say now that George pull the curtain over their clear bias against Black Cast and Directors. On Yea, Neo and Method Man are in "Red Tails". Wow at a Black Film saying "From the Creator of Star Wars", Props to George for This, I forgive him for Jar Jar now, lol.

Actually this trailer makes me more interested in the movie then the trailer that they've been running on television. Black audiences actually support comedy based black movies but not historical ones. Alot of times the historical ones are either boring where you cant market towards a younger black audience or its just a lil too sad and hurtful that no ones wants to revisit those times.

This movie looks interesting but they dont seem to know how to promote these type of movies to us. You have Meth, Neyo, and Terrence Howard in yet they have made no type of promotional push towards the younger hip hop community. Most of the times its like they just say its 'for us by us' and expect us to go out in see it. Tyler Perry movies may be trash but he knows how to market to his target audience.

 

[sdotcarter111]

Hollywood will support anything that makes money. If viewer demand was high for a movie about flavor-flav taking a shit, Hollywood would have it out by march and 2 sequels by september. Look at Twilight, made from books universally viewed as pieces of shit with horrible writing, but get marketing and production precedent because little ass girls will see the movie 5x and buy up the Toys-r-us in merchandise.

smh. Not everything is about racism.

Hollywood is run by greedy jews who will do or produce anything that will put money in their pockets and pull the plug on anything that won't. Its not their problem that nobody gives a fuck about Tuskegee Airmen Part 2, and there's no business sense in throwing bones and proving points. George wife been polluting his brain with that jive pillow talk.

And we really gonna pretend anybody should be fighting over the rights to cut Cuba Gooding jr a check? Word?

Sooner or later niggas will have to stop accepting racism as the blame for everything.

 

[nujerz84]

Even though the movie looks shitty I hope it does well

 

[dnyce215]

Hollywood will support anything that makes money. If viewer demand was high for a movie about flavor-flav taking a shit, Hollywood would have it out by march and 2 sequels by september. Look at Twilight, made from books universally viewed as pieces of shit with horrible writing, but get marketing and production precedent because little ass girls will see the movie 5x and buy up the Toys-r-us in merchandise.

smh. Not everything is about racism.

Hollywood is run by greedy jews who will do or produce anything that will put money in their pockets and pull the plug on anything that won't. Its not their problem that nobody gives a fuck about Tuskegee Airmen Part 2, and there's no business sense in throwing bones and proving points. George wife been polluting his brain with that jive pillow talk.

And we really gonna pretend anybody should be fighting over the rights to cut Cuba Gooding jr a check? Word?

Sooner or later niggas will have to stop accepting racism as the blame for everything.

@ first bolded How do know that this has nothing to do with race? Really you jus pointed out that the twilight had horrible writing with the books correct? So what bout the movies they make that is horrible with writing and acting. If marketing has a big part in people seeing movies how come there is not many movies that are blockbusters?

@ second bolded How do know that george didnt think this himself?

 

[desertrain10]

Hollywood will support anything that makes money. If viewer demand was high for a movie about flavor-flav taking a shit, Hollywood would have it out by march and 2 sequels by september. Look at Twilight, made from books universally viewed as pieces of shit with horrible writing, but get marketing and production precedent because little ass girls will see the movie 5x and buy up the Toys-r-us in merchandise.

smh. Not everything is about racism.

Hollywood is run by greedy jews who will do or produce anything that will put money in their pockets and pull the plug on anything that won't. Its not their problem that nobody gives a fuck about Tuskegee Airmen Part 2, and there's no business sense in throwing bones and proving points. George wife been polluting his brain with that jive pillow talk.

And we really gonna pretend anybody should be fighting over the rights to cut Cuba Gooding jr a check? Word?

Sooner or later niggas will have to stop accepting racism as the blame for everything.

lol.... this rant doesn't explain why white people would not flock to see ANY movie with a predominately black cast...at least that what hollywood exes would like us to believe and maybe its true.....so how is this not an issue of race?

 

[dnyce215]

Because its not Hollywood thats practicing the racisim, they are just supply what the people demand.

Not true what all the black projects not being green lit. what I want to see, the supply is low, but in high demand.

 

[sdotcarter111]

@ first bolded How do know that this has nothing to do with race? Really you jus pointed out that the twilight had horrible writing with the books correct? So what bout the movies they make that is horrible with writing and acting. If marketing has a big part in people seeing movies how come there is not many movies that are blockbusters?

They market the Twilight movies, but the movies stand on their own and produce their own success. The movies are moneymakers on their own because they have their own VAST audience, the marketing is a product of that success. Not the other way around.

The studio knows they can make an extra bil off action figures and cups and shit because 12 year old girls and middle-aged women going through midlife crises will buy anything with the name Twilight on it, because they are lonely and want to fuck vampires. How many niggas you see walkin round with Tuskegee Airmen fitteds? Nuff said.

As for race, I didn't say it has nothing to do with race, I said it has nothing to do with Hollywood being racist, because first and foremost, Hollywood is ALL ABOUT THE BENJAMINS my nig. Twilight garners its own success, which produces $$$, which produces marketing because studios know the marketing will bring dividends and ultimately result in money in their pockets.

And unless studios know a movie will make money and lots of it, they are hesitant to pull the trigger, especially in this economy. Which is why you see so many remakes and sequels these days and so little original material.

Hollywood goes for the sure thing and eschews the gambit. I shouldn't have to reiterate why...but I will because so many niggas suffer from that hard-head affliction.

JEWS AND $$$$$$$

@ second bolded How do know that george didnt think this himself?

So George was just chillin in bed one night drinkin his henny and smokin a jay, took his glasses off and said "you know honey, i don't think hollywood gives black people a fair shake, and its because they're racist", and his ol lady cut the blowdryer off and was like "heavens to betsy, george, you're right!".

Word?

Or the more likely scenario of his black female (the most race-conscious people on earth) wife bringing it up, most likely after a bomb-ass head session.

Imma have to go wit the latter for $400, stew

 

[sdotcarter111]

lol.... this rant doesn't explain why white people would not flock to see ANY movie with a predominately black cast...at least that what hollywood exes would like us to believe and maybe its true.....so how is this not an issue of race?

#1, wasn't nobody asked to explain why white people don't flock to black movies, the topic is about Hollywood and its perceived racism in production and greenlighting of all-black films and thats what I addressed. smh at niggas laughing out loud about shit nobody was talkin about

#2, Think about what it is exactly you are saying. Do you think Trip Johnson down the street doesn't flock to all-black movies because he hates black people? Because he thinks they're inferior? If the only reasoning you can think of for why white folk don't pack the theater for "Why did I get married" "or "This Christmas" is that they are irrationally racist than you are probably a dumb ass nigga. *stephen a. voice* No disrespect, no disrespect!

*side note, even niggas dont flock the theater for nigga movies, so what now?

White people don't flock to black movies for the same reason niggas don't have a problem flocking to white movies, because societal living norms have made one group accustomed to being the minority and one group accustomed to being the majority.

Black people have no problems sitting in a theater and watching mostly whites on screen because this is essentially how we live and observe the world around us. Go to work, mostly white people. Go to the mall, mostly white people. Go outside nigga, mostly white people. The screen is a microcosm of the world we live in, certain areas of the country notwithstanding.

Crackas, otoh, are never in a situation where they are the minority and in observance of an all-black population. Its not normal to them, so they aint checkin for it. Fault them for being too content in their comfort zone, or whatever else, but it has less to do with racism and more to do with familiarity.

Take a white boy growing up in south side chicago or southeast DC and he'll be more likely to check for Red Tails, or whatever all black movie that comes out. Why? Because it bears familiarity to his world and his conditioning. Its not that whitey is too racist to watch Cuba and Terrance new movie, its that they don't care.

And if they don't care, the money-grubbing studios damn sure don't.