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straightupsho;3787633 said:Kanye has AT LEAST two
garv;3787749 said:Nope he has 2 good albums, no way is College Dropout or Late Registration classics, its too inconsistent and he is outshone by the features, hardly has a classic verse on the two albums.
usmarin3;3787785 said:How has Kanye regressed?
The niggas flow and delivery was so weak on his first two albums,lyrically he was barely average and his drums use to be so garbage. He has improved a lot as a artist if you ask me, you might not like the direction of his content but you can't say he hasn't improved as a rapper skill wise.
ocelot;3787838 said:I will admit his wordplay has gotten 3xs better from 7 years ago... But 7 years ago kanye stood for something... He made music that felt like it was more than music
He was our U2 our Marvin Gaye... The problem was Kanye was starting to become bigger than the music he was putting out... Taylor Swiff and probably Amber Rose was the best thing that happend to him honestly... It brought that nigga down to earth and focus on the music again... New Day is very underated
usmarin3;3787901 said:Marvin Gaye and U2 didn't only make socially conscious music my dude. Stop trying to put artist in boxes, and Kanye has never carried himself like a conscious or backpack/nerd rapper anyways. That nigga has always been on that fashion, pussy,etc tip too.
Like i said early, you aren' the same person you were 7 years ago so why the fuck ya'll expect these artist to be the same. Kanye has seen and experience the shit we will never see in our lifetime, he ain't suppose to be the same person. If he was still trying to recapture College Dropout, then i would have a problem with that mf because he ain't showing growth.
ocelot;3787986 said:If you listen to marvins and u2s early stuff till now you can see the growth... Marvin went from bubble gum music to "what's going on"
And I don't even have to go conscious... He made a CD call "here my dear" which is the realest CD put out...that's growth... Kanye was doing no different than what R.Kelly was doing
R.Kelly went from Down Low and When a Women's Fed up to Ignition Rmx and I'm a Flirt...Tre Songs called that nigga out for it ... R Kelly newest CD is growth... Not that other shit
If Jay Z can grow with his music why can't other artist... If Outkast can grow with their music why can't others... I'm not boxing him in... I just want him to stop being lazy and get back on his shit... I expect more from Kanye because I know hes better than this...
I agree with all you've said...kingofharts;3788093 said:But in all honesty, if you wanna bring up Here My Dear though, I think that's comparable to Kanye's 808 and MBDTF. Both dealing with relationships. However, Marvin's had a stronger theme, and dealt with love from a more mature viewpoint.
I think Kanye's grown in terms of production. On the rapping side, technically to me he's gotten better, but yeah I don't think the subject matter's grown.
I feel like in the past artists, even though they got famous and no doubt succumbed to all the ills/rewards of a moneyed life, could still reach within them or observe the general world, and pull from that. Kanye, Jay etc are just pulling from that moneyed, celebrity life. Oh and Ye with his failed relationships.
Also, don't really think Jay-Z's grown too much musically, although he's good for dropping a jewel or two amidst all the BS.
Most of these artists today seem completely disconnected from the real world.
KingdomKame;3788105 said:If Kanye made college dropout pt I'd be disappointed as hell
I listen to Kanye cause he put out different shit every album, he's rap's Radiohead, change is the reason I listen to him
KingdomKame;3788105 said:If Kanye made college dropout pt I'd be disappointed as hell
I listen to Kanye cause he put out different shit every album, he's rap's Radiohead, change is the reason I listen to him
ocelot;3788194 said:I don't want another CD from Ye... That would be corny... But I don't want a nigga making POP sounds talking about being a astronaut because he get ass a lot...smh
Kanye could've went the 3stack route with the growth without sounding the same... Ye makes it look like a gimmick...trying to hard to be different instead of just being himself
KingdomKame;3788274 said:that katy perry song wack as hell lol
but he keep if off his albums so im not mad
makaveli4ever;3782334 said:I see people say this all the time. You just don't want him to grow. I happen to prefer Kanye's first three albums over anything he has done since. WTT is an exception.