Eminem – The Marshall Mathers LP 2 Discussion Thread (Nov 5th)

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This album gets better with each listen, are some of you people even listening to this album or just talking shit? must be because im white.
 
King_sorrow;6435045 said:
my dumbass just realized

is Eminem the reason the term "stan" was coined?

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really? I mean really? Here's another mind blowing fact.the phrase ether comes from...NVM

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YoungGoldie;6433784 said:
in rap history tho nigga? lol

What songs do u think are wack? theres only about 3 or 4 songs I don't fuck with on encore. Even joints like "first single" is shittin on almost every track on mmlp2.

Encore sucked ass bruh.it's the worst album he ever did.Everything else is average to classic
 
Overall, I like the album. It'll prolly be my favorite Em album, but not cuz of the music. I can admit that musically... this album is meh. Em should've done a lot better picking beats and writing hooks. I appreciate the old school hip hop samples and kinda dig the rock vibe on some joints, especially on So Far. But aside from that (which Rick Rubin mostly like contributed), MMLP2 was textbook mediocre musically. The fuck was it with those generic hooks on Legacy and Bad Guy? And there's like 8 more just like it... some bland shit about love or heartbreak or whatever. And fuck the beat for Monster. In the face. Those problems hinder the album like a mufucka.

But this nigga Em... son. What the fuck. Is he back on drugs? I don't care what anyone says... son went stupid. I lost hope in him making anything even remotely dope after Recovery, but shit. Even the corny punchlines were good (the Helen Keller line was funny to me). Call it stanning or whatever, but fuck it. Em was rhyming his ass off, and in more ways than one. He took the best of all his styles and crammed it into one album. Even the references of his old shit was crazy. As an underground Em fan, the "chauvinist pig, drove a pink Lincoln over the bridge" flip in Bad Guy floored me (reference to an old freestyle). And fuck niggas hating on Love Game... that shit is genius. At least he didn't call out her name "hip hop" this time.

All in all, I'm not saying Em is at his best, or better than he was before. But he's mad close. Matter of fact, of all the MCs that fell from grace lyrically (Jay, Wayne, Fab, etc.), not one of them has bounced back skillwise like Em has. Off topic, Wayne MURDERED that DJ Khaled joint. Anyways... this album is ok as a standalone album. The production is subpar but the lyrics were on point. But I'm hype that one of my favorite MCs is back on his old shit.
 
Lab Baby;6439352 said:
Overall, I like the album. It'll prolly be my favorite Em album, but not cuz of the music. I can admit that musically... this album is meh. Em should've done a lot better picking beats and writing hooks. I appreciate the old school hip hop samples and kinda dig the rock vibe on some joints, especially on So Far. But aside from that (which Rick Rubin mostly like contributed), MMLP2 was textbook mediocre musically. The fuck was it with those generic hooks on Legacy and Bad Guy? And there's like 8 more just like it... some bland shit about love or heartbreak or whatever. And fuck the beat for Monster. In the face. Those problems hinder the album like a mufucka.

But this nigga Em... son. What the fuck. Is he back on drugs? I don't care what anyone says... son went stupid. I lost hope in him making anything even remotely dope after Recovery, but shit. Even the corny punchlines were good (the Helen Keller line was funny to me). Call it stanning or whatever, but fuck it. Em was rhyming his ass off, and in more ways than one. He took the best of all his styles and crammed it into one album. Even the references of his old shit was crazy. As an underground Em fan, the "chauvinist pig, drove a pink Lincoln over the bridge" flip in Bad Guy floored me (reference to an old freestyle). And fuck niggas hating on Love Game... that shit is genius. At least he didn't call out her name "hip hop" this time.

All in all, I'm not saying Em is at his best, or better than he was before. But he's mad close. Matter of fact, of all the MCs that fell from grace lyrically (Jay, Wayne, Fab, etc.), not one of them has bounced back skillwise like Em has. Off topic, Wayne MURDERED that DJ Khaled joint. Anyways... this album is ok as a standalone album. The production is subpar but the lyrics were on point. But I'm hype that one of my favorite MCs is back on his old shit.

Are you on crack?This album isn't better than his 1st 3 albums or Relapse.It may be good as recovery

I like when Em has a concept to his albums.This shit is really everywhere, but lyrically Em is still a beast

Love game sucks.I wanted to either here them go crazy lyrically or do a better concept song
 
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loch121;6439529 said:
Lab Baby;6439352 said:
Overall, I like the album. It'll prolly be my favorite Em album, but not cuz of the music. I can admit that musically... this album is meh. Em should've done a lot better picking beats and writing hooks. I appreciate the old school hip hop samples and kinda dig the rock vibe on some joints, especially on So Far. But aside from that (which Rick Rubin mostly like contributed), MMLP2 was textbook mediocre musically. The fuck was it with those generic hooks on Legacy and Bad Guy? And there's like 8 more just like it... some bland shit about love or heartbreak or whatever. And fuck the beat for Monster. In the face. Those problems hinder the album like a mufucka.

But this nigga Em... son. What the fuck. Is he back on drugs? I don't care what anyone says... son went stupid. I lost hope in him making anything even remotely dope after Recovery, but shit. Even the corny punchlines were good (the Helen Keller line was funny to me). Call it stanning or whatever, but fuck it. Em was rhyming his ass off, and in more ways than one. He took the best of all his styles and crammed it into one album. Even the references of his old shit was crazy. As an underground Em fan, the "chauvinist pig, drove a pink Lincoln over the bridge" flip in Bad Guy floored me (reference to an old freestyle). And fuck niggas hating on Love Game... that shit is genius. At least he didn't call out her name "hip hop" this time.

All in all, I'm not saying Em is at his best, or better than he was before. But he's mad close. Matter of fact, of all the MCs that fell from grace lyrically (Jay, Wayne, Fab, etc.), not one of them has bounced back skillwise like Em has. Off topic, Wayne MURDERED that DJ Khaled joint. Anyways... this album is ok as a standalone album. The production is subpar but the lyrics were on point. But I'm hype that one of my favorite MCs is back on his old shit.

Are you on crack?This album isn't better than his 1st 3 albums or Relapse.It may be good as recovery

I like when Em has a concept to his albums.This shit is really everywhere, but lyrically Em is still a beast

Love game sucks.I wanted to either here them go crazy lyrically or do a better concept song

I haven't heard Relapse in a while but this beats it and I know for a fact this blows Recovery away since i was listening to a few days before the leak.... The album as a whole might not have one concept from start to finish but pretty much each song has some type of message and story to it besides really bezerk..

imo this is his 4th best album, but from a rapping stand point it's top 3

 
Its funny cause people HATE Relapse but the beats on that shit are super dope. We all wanted a full Dre produced album, we got it, people still hated it lol. I still think its dope tho and play it more than Recovery.
 
270crownst;6439557 said:
Idk if its me or sum..but em sounds like he's angry at something when he rhymes lately..lol

He's 40+, single, no father, crazy mother, psycho baby mother, cant go out in public by himself, lives in Detroit. Sounds like somethin to be angry about. His daughter and being rich is prolly the only thing thats kept him from offing himself.
 
loch121;6439529 said:
Lab Baby;6439352 said:
Overall, I like the album. It'll prolly be my favorite Em album, but not cuz of the music. I can admit that musically... this album is meh. Em should've done a lot better picking beats and writing hooks. I appreciate the old school hip hop samples and kinda dig the rock vibe on some joints, especially on So Far. But aside from that (which Rick Rubin mostly like contributed), MMLP2 was textbook mediocre musically. The fuck was it with those generic hooks on Legacy and Bad Guy? And there's like 8 more just like it... some bland shit about love or heartbreak or whatever. And fuck the beat for Monster. In the face. Those problems hinder the album like a mufucka.

But this nigga Em... son. What the fuck. Is he back on drugs? I don't care what anyone says... son went stupid. I lost hope in him making anything even remotely dope after Recovery, but shit. Even the corny punchlines were good (the Helen Keller line was funny to me). Call it stanning or whatever, but fuck it. Em was rhyming his ass off, and in more ways than one. He took the best of all his styles and crammed it into one album. Even the references of his old shit was crazy. As an underground Em fan, the "chauvinist pig, drove a pink Lincoln over the bridge" flip in Bad Guy floored me (reference to an old freestyle). And fuck niggas hating on Love Game... that shit is genius. At least he didn't call out her name "hip hop" this time.

All in all, I'm not saying Em is at his best, or better than he was before. But he's mad close. Matter of fact, of all the MCs that fell from grace lyrically (Jay, Wayne, Fab, etc.), not one of them has bounced back skillwise like Em has. Off topic, Wayne MURDERED that DJ Khaled joint. Anyways... this album is ok as a standalone album. The production is subpar but the lyrics were on point. But I'm hype that one of my favorite MCs is back on his old shit.

Are you on crack?This album isn't better than his 1st 3 albums or Relapse.It may be good as recovery

I like when Em has a concept to his albums.This shit is really everywhere, but lyrically Em is still a beast

Love game sucks.I wanted to either here them go crazy lyrically or do a better concept song

I'm not saying it's better, I'm not gonna place my judgments as fact. Truthfully this might not even crack his top 5 albums to some people. But me personally... I'm more hype about what he brought to the album than the album itself. He hasn't spit like this in 10 years. He hit a stride with Relapse (which just recently became my 3rd favorite Em album), but that shit had too many holes in it. But with this album... everything that went wrong on his last 3 albums he corrected here. He worked on his new punchline style from Recovery (some of them are still lame), he changes his voice a lot but it's easier to listen to than on Relapse... and he nailed the scatological humor he was trying to pull off in Encore. To me anyway.

And I get the concept to MMLP2. Em is basically confronting his demons rather than just lashing out or preaching, and using his old styles and lyrics as reference. Same with Relapse, but that was more tongue and cheek. This and Relapse are mediocre musically, but I put them both at a high level cuz it shows Em in top form, even if it's not 99-02 top form.
 
blu197;6439545 said:
loch121;6439529 said:
Lab Baby;6439352 said:
Overall, I like the album. It'll prolly be my favorite Em album, but not cuz of the music. I can admit that musically... this album is meh. Em should've done a lot better picking beats and writing hooks. I appreciate the old school hip hop samples and kinda dig the rock vibe on some joints, especially on So Far. But aside from that (which Rick Rubin mostly like contributed), MMLP2 was textbook mediocre musically. The fuck was it with those generic hooks on Legacy and Bad Guy? And there's like 8 more just like it... some bland shit about love or heartbreak or whatever. And fuck the beat for Monster. In the face. Those problems hinder the album like a mufucka.

But this nigga Em... son. What the fuck. Is he back on drugs? I don't care what anyone says... son went stupid. I lost hope in him making anything even remotely dope after Recovery, but shit. Even the corny punchlines were good (the Helen Keller line was funny to me). Call it stanning or whatever, but fuck it. Em was rhyming his ass off, and in more ways than one. He took the best of all his styles and crammed it into one album. Even the references of his old shit was crazy. As an underground Em fan, the "chauvinist pig, drove a pink Lincoln over the bridge" flip in Bad Guy floored me (reference to an old freestyle). And fuck niggas hating on Love Game... that shit is genius. At least he didn't call out her name "hip hop" this time.

All in all, I'm not saying Em is at his best, or better than he was before. But he's mad close. Matter of fact, of all the MCs that fell from grace lyrically (Jay, Wayne, Fab, etc.), not one of them has bounced back skillwise like Em has. Off topic, Wayne MURDERED that DJ Khaled joint. Anyways... this album is ok as a standalone album. The production is subpar but the lyrics were on point. But I'm hype that one of my favorite MCs is back on his old shit.

Are you on crack?This album isn't better than his 1st 3 albums or Relapse.It may be good as recovery

I like when Em has a concept to his albums.This shit is really everywhere, but lyrically Em is still a beast

Love game sucks.I wanted to either here them go crazy lyrically or do a better concept song

I haven't heard Relapse in a while but this beats it and I know for a fact this blows Recovery away since i was listening to a few days before the leak.... The album as a whole might not have one concept from start to finish but pretty much each song has some type of message and story to it besides really bezerk..

imo this is his 4th best album, but from a rapping stand point it's top 3

I liked relapse.It had a great concept and I'm a fan of more of the evil Em than the retrospective Em.

Recovery wasn't terrible to me though, I respected the angle, but it had some lackluster songs on it

I can't decide if it's better or equal to recovery

I don't think it's wack, but it's a lot of shit I heard from him.naming this MMLP 2 was a bad idea

Bonus tracks are pretty dope besides desperation

Em been confronting his demons since the 1st album,nothing new

IDK why he didn't use them on the album?

I must say I didn't get that bad Guy was Stan 2.i thought he was talking about Kim until ppl pointed out the mathew part.That was dope, but the song is no Stan

When did Asher Roth diss Em?he threw a dart at Asher on Asshole
 
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For the record, I never said Encore was a great album, its not even in my top 5 eminem albums. I just dont think its as wack as mfs be saying "worst hip album of alltime" ? Ive heard alot worse. Like someone said earlier, I think the best songs on encore are better than the best songs on recovery and the worst songs on encore are worse than the worst songs on recovery. So I would understand if someone thinks recovery is better. Those are his 2 worst albums imo. Well after mmlp2. Relapse is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all 3.
 
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