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Okay then why don't you put a little Link there that shows that it's more like fifteen to twenty percent of rape victims who are lying. Have you ever Googled the stories of actual rape victims are you just worried about the men who have been falsely accused supposedly?
 
Westie;c-9870378 said:
my proof of what? What I asked you was what is your proof of Most women not going to the cops right away who do report rape. You're not going to give me shit that happened in The seventies as evidence. if only 6 people get prosecuted out of 1000 actual rapes now, do you think the numbers were better in the seventies? Where's your logic there?

For someone who is going so hard in blaming the victims for people getting raped you can't even do a Google search? I don't give a fuck about your TV dad and those old cases.

Since you can't even do a google search yourself, here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ort-rape-or-sexual-assault-survey-claims.html
http://time.com/2905637/campus-rape-assault-prosecution/

And this from the National Institute of Justice that, within three paragraphs, outline that "... a majority of rape victims still do not report their attacks to police..."
https://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/rape-sexual-violence/Pages/rape-notification.aspx

National Institute of Justice said:
... The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) reports that the majority of rapes and sexual assaults perpetrated against women and girls in the United States between 1992 and 2000 were not reported to the police. Only 36 percent of rapes, 34 percent of attempted rapes, and 26 percent of sexual assaults were reported...

I intentionally ignored it because the media has been over saturated with reports about women NOT coming forwards about rape for as long as I can remember so clearly you couldn't have possibly been serious about this idiotic line of questions.

As for the rest of it - Please, do me a favor: Quote me any time I've blamed the victim of rape for being raped. If you can't do that, shut the fuck up about it.

Not once have I blamed the victim for what happened to them. However, every victim of a crime has a duty to report it to the cops as fast as possible. If the victim of a rape or any crime waits to report it then they are directly responsible for the rapist walking away without consequence. The victim DOES deserve blame for that, but not for the actual crime committed against them.
 
konceptjones;c-9871408 said:
Westie;c-9870378 said:
my proof of what? What I asked you was what is your proof of Most women not going to the cops right away who do report rape. You're not going to give me shit that happened in The seventies as evidence. if only 6 people get prosecuted out of 1000 actual rapes now, do you think the numbers were better in the seventies? Where's your logic there?

For someone who is going so hard in blaming the victims for people getting raped you can't even do a Google search? I don't give a fuck about your TV dad and those old cases.

Since you can't even do a google search yourself, here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ort-rape-or-sexual-assault-survey-claims.html
http://time.com/2905637/campus-rape-assault-prosecution/

And this from the National Institute of Justice that, within three paragraphs, outline that "... a majority of rape victims still do not report their attacks to police..."
https://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/rape-sexual-violence/Pages/rape-notification.aspx

National Institute of Justice said:
... The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) reports that the majority of rapes and sexual assaults perpetrated against women and girls in the United States between 1992 and 2000 were not reported to the police. Only 36 percent of rapes, 34 percent of attempted rapes, and 26 percent of sexual assaults were reported...

I intentionally ignored it because the media has been over saturated with reports about women NOT coming forwards about rape for as long as I can remember so clearly you couldn't have possibly been serious about this idiotic line of questions.

As for the rest of it - Please, do me a favor: Quote me any time I've blamed the victim of rape for being raped. If you can't do that, shut the fuck up about it.

Not once have I blamed the victim for what happened to them. However, every victim of a crime has a duty to report it to the cops as fast as possible. If the victim of a rape or any crime waits to report it then they are directly responsible for the rapist walking away without consequence. The victim DOES deserve blame for that, but not for the actual crime committed against them.

Okay what I said is for the women who report rapes how many wait - that's what I said. If they don't report the rape at all that has nothing to do with waiting. I know the overwhelming majority of women who are sexually assaulted do not report it AT ALL. What I was asking you is for those who do report it what makes you think most of them wait?

 
blackrain;c-9870546 said:
konceptjones;c-9869798 said:
Westie;c-9869659 said:
konceptjones;c-9869649 said:
Westie;c-9869642 said:
konceptjones;c-9869535 said:
Westie;c-9869343 said:
I'm not talking about Cosby I REFUSE to go over the heartbreak y'all feel about your tv daddy.

Once again, what evidence do you have that most women who report rape Report it late? You're not understanding circumstantial evidence it is a he-said-she-said case. You can get date raped go to the police station fill out a report get a rape kit and once that man says I didn't rape her it was consensual, and there's not a lot of evidence to prove otherwise, you're still fucked. I don't know what you're not understanding.

Have you ever had your Asshole violated? like has anybody ever forced a dick in there against your will? because if they did and then you had to go report the crime you have to go report that, tell somebody, and then have a doctor put a speculum back in there, open it up and dig around in your ass. Does that sound fun to you? but you would have done it because you ran to go report somebody taking something from you in a robbery. Good for you.

In the matter of Cosby... Personally, I think some women were raped via being drugged and some were willing participants and took the drugs to get loose. I have no conflict on whether or not Cosby did it because of who he is. The sheer number says to me that some were willing and some were not.

As for getting the rape kit administered... Doesn't matter if it's fun or not, it still has to happen in order to prosecute the nigga. That's what you do. If I got shot and docs say it's risky to take the bullet out but a detective comes to me and says "hey, that bullet is the only forensic evidence we have to connect the dude we have in custody to your shooting..." guess what? I'm having that shit taken out no matter the risk to make sure that nigga gets convicted.

If the only thing standing between a rapist and prison is you being probed so evidence can be collected then you need to suck it up and do what it takes to put the nigga in prison, otherwise the next woman he violates is on your head because you had the ability to put an end to it before it even got to her. In that way it's like everyone that sees their friend too drunk to drive but does nothing to stop him/her from getting behind the wheel and they kill someone all had a hand in that person's death.

AGAIN where is your proof that most women who report rape don't do this?

The only person to blame for a rapist raping is a rapist. What is wrong with y'all? You really look to blame everybody but the person doing the actual crime.

The person doing the crime getting the blame is a given, we don't have to argue this point because there's nothing to argue.

However, once a crime has been committed, it's up to the victim to press charges. If you don't press charges and cooperate with the investigation the perp walks away scott free. If he walks away due to your inaction and commits the same crime against a different person, then part of that crime is on you for not putting him away when you had the chance.

none of the crime is on you not one bit of it. You didn't force that person to rape you and you aren't forcing them to rape anyone else. Whose fault is it when you go and press charges and get the rape kit done and then the police don't decide to move ahead with the case? Then what? that is what happens the vast majority of the time so...

Westie;c-9869642 said:
konceptjones;c-9869535 said:
Westie;c-9869343 said:
I'm not talking about Cosby I REFUSE to go over the heartbreak y'all feel about your tv daddy.

Once again, what evidence do you have that most women who report rape Report it late? You're not understanding circumstantial evidence it is a he-said-she-said case. You can get date raped go to the police station fill out a report get a rape kit and once that man says I didn't rape her it was consensual, and there's not a lot of evidence to prove otherwise, you're still fucked. I don't know what you're not understanding.

Have you ever had your Asshole violated? like has anybody ever forced a dick in there against your will? because if they did and then you had to go report the crime you have to go report that, tell somebody, and then have a doctor put a speculum back in there, open it up and dig around in your ass. Does that sound fun to you? but you would have done it because you ran to go report somebody taking something from you in a robbery. Good for you.

In the matter of Cosby... Personally, I think some women were raped via being drugged and some were willing participants and took the drugs to get loose. I have no conflict on whether or not Cosby did it because of who he is. The sheer number says to me that some were willing and some were not.

As for getting the rape kit administered... Doesn't matter if it's fun or not, it still has to happen in order to prosecute the nigga. That's what you do. If I got shot and docs say it's risky to take the bullet out but a detective comes to me and says "hey, that bullet is the only forensic evidence we have to connect the dude we have in custody to your shooting..." guess what? I'm having that shit taken out no matter the risk to make sure that nigga gets convicted.

If the only thing standing between a rapist and prison is you being probed so evidence can be collected then you need to suck it up and do what it takes to put the nigga in prison, otherwise the next woman he violates is on your head because you had the ability to put an end to it before it even got to her. In that way it's like everyone that sees their friend too drunk to drive but does nothing to stop him/her from getting behind the wheel and they kill someone all had a hand in that person's death.

AGAIN where is your proof that most women who report rape don't do this?

The only person to blame for a rapist raping is a rapist. What is wrong with y'all? You really look to blame everybody but the person doing the actual crime.

So I've asked you this question about 4 times now do you have an answer or not? Because you keep repeating that shit and you have not even addressed it.

How many women that accused Cosby of rape went directly to the cops?

How many women that accuse men of rape on college campuses go directly to the cops?

If you have to answer either of these questions with anything less than "100% of them" there's your proof.

So you've just been blind go these schools facing lawsuits for all the shit theyve gone through to cover up sexual assaults and discouraging victims from filing reports @konceptjones ?

So you've just been blind to these schools facing lawsuits for all the shit they've gone through to railroad guys accused of campus rape, expelling them only to find out later that they were innocent but not restoring their status as students or offering any sort of compensation?
https://www.insidehighered.com/news...against-colleges-punished-them-sexual-assault

 
Westie;c-9871424 said:
konceptjones;c-9871408 said:
Westie;c-9870378 said:
my proof of what? What I asked you was what is your proof of Most women not going to the cops right away who do report rape. You're not going to give me shit that happened in The seventies as evidence. if only 6 people get prosecuted out of 1000 actual rapes now, do you think the numbers were better in the seventies? Where's your logic there?

For someone who is going so hard in blaming the victims for people getting raped you can't even do a Google search? I don't give a fuck about your TV dad and those old cases.

Since you can't even do a google search yourself, here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ort-rape-or-sexual-assault-survey-claims.html
http://time.com/2905637/campus-rape-assault-prosecution/

And this from the National Institute of Justice that, within three paragraphs, outline that "... a majority of rape victims still do not report their attacks to police..."
https://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/rape-sexual-violence/Pages/rape-notification.aspx

National Institute of Justice said:
... The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) reports that the majority of rapes and sexual assaults perpetrated against women and girls in the United States between 1992 and 2000 were not reported to the police. Only 36 percent of rapes, 34 percent of attempted rapes, and 26 percent of sexual assaults were reported...

I intentionally ignored it because the media has been over saturated with reports about women NOT coming forwards about rape for as long as I can remember so clearly you couldn't have possibly been serious about this idiotic line of questions.

As for the rest of it - Please, do me a favor: Quote me any time I've blamed the victim of rape for being raped. If you can't do that, shut the fuck up about it.

Not once have I blamed the victim for what happened to them. However, every victim of a crime has a duty to report it to the cops as fast as possible. If the victim of a rape or any crime waits to report it then they are directly responsible for the rapist walking away without consequence. The victim DOES deserve blame for that, but not for the actual crime committed against them.

Okay what I said is for the women who report rapes how many wait - that's what I said. If they don't report the rape at all that has nothing to do with waiting. I know the overwhelming majority of women who are sexually assaulted do not report it AT ALL. What I was asking you is for those who do report it what makes you think most of them wait?
http://www.pcar.org/news/why-victims-wait-report

"Victims sometimes need decades to even admit to themselves that what happened to them was abuse, let alone to muster the courage to file a report about what is perhaps the most traumatic physical and psychological betrayal that one can experience."
 
konceptjones;c-9871554 said:
Westie;c-9871424 said:
konceptjones;c-9871408 said:
Westie;c-9870378 said:
my proof of what? What I asked you was what is your proof of Most women not going to the cops right away who do report rape. You're not going to give me shit that happened in The seventies as evidence. if only 6 people get prosecuted out of 1000 actual rapes now, do you think the numbers were better in the seventies? Where's your logic there?

For someone who is going so hard in blaming the victims for people getting raped you can't even do a Google search? I don't give a fuck about your TV dad and those old cases.

Since you can't even do a google search yourself, here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ort-rape-or-sexual-assault-survey-claims.html
http://time.com/2905637/campus-rape-assault-prosecution/

And this from the National Institute of Justice that, within three paragraphs, outline that "... a majority of rape victims still do not report their attacks to police..."
https://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/rape-sexual-violence/Pages/rape-notification.aspx

National Institute of Justice said:
... The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) reports that the majority of rapes and sexual assaults perpetrated against women and girls in the United States between 1992 and 2000 were not reported to the police. Only 36 percent of rapes, 34 percent of attempted rapes, and 26 percent of sexual assaults were reported...

I intentionally ignored it because the media has been over saturated with reports about women NOT coming forwards about rape for as long as I can remember so clearly you couldn't have possibly been serious about this idiotic line of questions.

As for the rest of it - Please, do me a favor: Quote me any time I've blamed the victim of rape for being raped. If you can't do that, shut the fuck up about it.

Not once have I blamed the victim for what happened to them. However, every victim of a crime has a duty to report it to the cops as fast as possible. If the victim of a rape or any crime waits to report it then they are directly responsible for the rapist walking away without consequence. The victim DOES deserve blame for that, but not for the actual crime committed against them.

Okay what I said is for the women who report rapes how many wait - that's what I said. If they don't report the rape at all that has nothing to do with waiting. I know the overwhelming majority of women who are sexually assaulted do not report it AT ALL. What I was asking you is for those who do report it what makes you think most of them wait?
http://www.pcar.org/news/why-victims-wait-report

"Victims sometimes need decades to even admit to themselves that what happened to them was abuse, let alone to muster the courage to file a report about what is perhaps the most traumatic physical and psychological betrayal that one can experience."

I'm aware of the whys love.

I think you were guessing that most women wait, destroy evidence, then report. I don't see where it says that. It's cool, we're not going to see eye to eye.

But if I see one more reference to Cosby I'm going to find you and punch you in the dick.

 
konceptjones;c-9871525 said:
blackrain;c-9870546 said:
konceptjones;c-9869798 said:
Westie;c-9869659 said:
konceptjones;c-9869649 said:
Westie;c-9869642 said:
konceptjones;c-9869535 said:
Westie;c-9869343 said:
I'm not talking about Cosby I REFUSE to go over the heartbreak y'all feel about your tv daddy.

Once again, what evidence do you have that most women who report rape Report it late? You're not understanding circumstantial evidence it is a he-said-she-said case. You can get date raped go to the police station fill out a report get a rape kit and once that man says I didn't rape her it was consensual, and there's not a lot of evidence to prove otherwise, you're still fucked. I don't know what you're not understanding.

Have you ever had your Asshole violated? like has anybody ever forced a dick in there against your will? because if they did and then you had to go report the crime you have to go report that, tell somebody, and then have a doctor put a speculum back in there, open it up and dig around in your ass. Does that sound fun to you? but you would have done it because you ran to go report somebody taking something from you in a robbery. Good for you.

In the matter of Cosby... Personally, I think some women were raped via being drugged and some were willing participants and took the drugs to get loose. I have no conflict on whether or not Cosby did it because of who he is. The sheer number says to me that some were willing and some were not.

As for getting the rape kit administered... Doesn't matter if it's fun or not, it still has to happen in order to prosecute the nigga. That's what you do. If I got shot and docs say it's risky to take the bullet out but a detective comes to me and says "hey, that bullet is the only forensic evidence we have to connect the dude we have in custody to your shooting..." guess what? I'm having that shit taken out no matter the risk to make sure that nigga gets convicted.

If the only thing standing between a rapist and prison is you being probed so evidence can be collected then you need to suck it up and do what it takes to put the nigga in prison, otherwise the next woman he violates is on your head because you had the ability to put an end to it before it even got to her. In that way it's like everyone that sees their friend too drunk to drive but does nothing to stop him/her from getting behind the wheel and they kill someone all had a hand in that person's death.

AGAIN where is your proof that most women who report rape don't do this?

The only person to blame for a rapist raping is a rapist. What is wrong with y'all? You really look to blame everybody but the person doing the actual crime.

The person doing the crime getting the blame is a given, we don't have to argue this point because there's nothing to argue.

However, once a crime has been committed, it's up to the victim to press charges. If you don't press charges and cooperate with the investigation the perp walks away scott free. If he walks away due to your inaction and commits the same crime against a different person, then part of that crime is on you for not putting him away when you had the chance.

none of the crime is on you not one bit of it. You didn't force that person to rape you and you aren't forcing them to rape anyone else. Whose fault is it when you go and press charges and get the rape kit done and then the police don't decide to move ahead with the case? Then what? that is what happens the vast majority of the time so...

Westie;c-9869642 said:
konceptjones;c-9869535 said:
Westie;c-9869343 said:
I'm not talking about Cosby I REFUSE to go over the heartbreak y'all feel about your tv daddy.

Once again, what evidence do you have that most women who report rape Report it late? You're not understanding circumstantial evidence it is a he-said-she-said case. You can get date raped go to the police station fill out a report get a rape kit and once that man says I didn't rape her it was consensual, and there's not a lot of evidence to prove otherwise, you're still fucked. I don't know what you're not understanding.

Have you ever had your Asshole violated? like has anybody ever forced a dick in there against your will? because if they did and then you had to go report the crime you have to go report that, tell somebody, and then have a doctor put a speculum back in there, open it up and dig around in your ass. Does that sound fun to you? but you would have done it because you ran to go report somebody taking something from you in a robbery. Good for you.

In the matter of Cosby... Personally, I think some women were raped via being drugged and some were willing participants and took the drugs to get loose. I have no conflict on whether or not Cosby did it because of who he is. The sheer number says to me that some were willing and some were not.

As for getting the rape kit administered... Doesn't matter if it's fun or not, it still has to happen in order to prosecute the nigga. That's what you do. If I got shot and docs say it's risky to take the bullet out but a detective comes to me and says "hey, that bullet is the only forensic evidence we have to connect the dude we have in custody to your shooting..." guess what? I'm having that shit taken out no matter the risk to make sure that nigga gets convicted.

If the only thing standing between a rapist and prison is you being probed so evidence can be collected then you need to suck it up and do what it takes to put the nigga in prison, otherwise the next woman he violates is on your head because you had the ability to put an end to it before it even got to her. In that way it's like everyone that sees their friend too drunk to drive but does nothing to stop him/her from getting behind the wheel and they kill someone all had a hand in that person's death.

AGAIN where is your proof that most women who report rape don't do this?

The only person to blame for a rapist raping is a rapist. What is wrong with y'all? You really look to blame everybody but the person doing the actual crime.

So I've asked you this question about 4 times now do you have an answer or not? Because you keep repeating that shit and you have not even addressed it.

How many women that accused Cosby of rape went directly to the cops?

How many women that accuse men of rape on college campuses go directly to the cops?

If you have to answer either of these questions with anything less than "100% of them" there's your proof.

So you've just been blind go these schools facing lawsuits for all the shit theyve gone through to cover up sexual assaults and discouraging victims from filing reports @konceptjones ?

So you've just been blind to these schools facing lawsuits for all the shit they've gone through to railroad guys accused of campus rape, expelling them only to find out later that they were innocent but not restoring their status as students or offering any sort of compensation?
https://www.insidehighered.com/news...against-colleges-punished-them-sexual-assault

No I haven't been. Unlike you I know both sides of the argument and know that not only have schools faced lawsuits for how they've discouraged victims from reporting it, but also how those who are accused in some instances have been denied their fair shot to defend themselves against these allegations. The difference between you and me though is I acknowledge both sides yet am still able to not let the smaller percentage determine the entire picture like you are. The percentage of those falsely accused is much less than those who are actually guilty. You're attempting to put equal focus on something you admit isn't actually equal in number...
 
konceptjones;c-9871554 said:
Westie;c-9871424 said:
konceptjones;c-9871408 said:
Westie;c-9870378 said:
my proof of what? What I asked you was what is your proof of Most women not going to the cops right away who do report rape. You're not going to give me shit that happened in The seventies as evidence. if only 6 people get prosecuted out of 1000 actual rapes now, do you think the numbers were better in the seventies? Where's your logic there?

For someone who is going so hard in blaming the victims for people getting raped you can't even do a Google search? I don't give a fuck about your TV dad and those old cases.

Since you can't even do a google search yourself, here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ort-rape-or-sexual-assault-survey-claims.html
http://time.com/2905637/campus-rape-assault-prosecution/

And this from the National Institute of Justice that, within three paragraphs, outline that "... a majority of rape victims still do not report their attacks to police..."
https://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/rape-sexual-violence/Pages/rape-notification.aspx

National Institute of Justice said:
... The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) reports that the majority of rapes and sexual assaults perpetrated against women and girls in the United States between 1992 and 2000 were not reported to the police. Only 36 percent of rapes, 34 percent of attempted rapes, and 26 percent of sexual assaults were reported...

I intentionally ignored it because the media has been over saturated with reports about women NOT coming forwards about rape for as long as I can remember so clearly you couldn't have possibly been serious about this idiotic line of questions.

As for the rest of it - Please, do me a favor: Quote me any time I've blamed the victim of rape for being raped. If you can't do that, shut the fuck up about it.

Not once have I blamed the victim for what happened to them. However, every victim of a crime has a duty to report it to the cops as fast as possible. If the victim of a rape or any crime waits to report it then they are directly responsible for the rapist walking away without consequence. The victim DOES deserve blame for that, but not for the actual crime committed against them.

Okay what I said is for the women who report rapes how many wait - that's what I said. If they don't report the rape at all that has nothing to do with waiting. I know the overwhelming majority of women who are sexually assaulted do not report it AT ALL. What I was asking you is for those who do report it what makes you think most of them wait?
http://www.pcar.org/news/why-victims-wait-report

"Victims sometimes need decades to even admit to themselves that what happened to them was abuse, let alone to muster the courage to file a report about what is perhaps the most traumatic physical and psychological betrayal that one can experience."

How can you quote this, yet still seem to be so unable to understand why women don't rush to go report and say they are to blame?
 
2 out of 5 ppm posters are borderlind rapists

1 of that remaining 3 mightve crossed the line before

The remaining 2 may have witnessed a rape and never spoke up
 
blackrain;c-9871590 said:
konceptjones;c-9871554 said:
Westie;c-9871424 said:
konceptjones;c-9871408 said:
Westie;c-9870378 said:
my proof of what? What I asked you was what is your proof of Most women not going to the cops right away who do report rape. You're not going to give me shit that happened in The seventies as evidence. if only 6 people get prosecuted out of 1000 actual rapes now, do you think the numbers were better in the seventies? Where's your logic there?

For someone who is going so hard in blaming the victims for people getting raped you can't even do a Google search? I don't give a fuck about your TV dad and those old cases.

Since you can't even do a google search yourself, here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ort-rape-or-sexual-assault-survey-claims.html
http://time.com/2905637/campus-rape-assault-prosecution/

And this from the National Institute of Justice that, within three paragraphs, outline that "... a majority of rape victims still do not report their attacks to police..."
https://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/rape-sexual-violence/Pages/rape-notification.aspx

National Institute of Justice said:
... The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) reports that the majority of rapes and sexual assaults perpetrated against women and girls in the United States between 1992 and 2000 were not reported to the police. Only 36 percent of rapes, 34 percent of attempted rapes, and 26 percent of sexual assaults were reported...

I intentionally ignored it because the media has been over saturated with reports about women NOT coming forwards about rape for as long as I can remember so clearly you couldn't have possibly been serious about this idiotic line of questions.

As for the rest of it - Please, do me a favor: Quote me any time I've blamed the victim of rape for being raped. If you can't do that, shut the fuck up about it.

Not once have I blamed the victim for what happened to them. However, every victim of a crime has a duty to report it to the cops as fast as possible. If the victim of a rape or any crime waits to report it then they are directly responsible for the rapist walking away without consequence. The victim DOES deserve blame for that, but not for the actual crime committed against them.

Okay what I said is for the women who report rapes how many wait - that's what I said. If they don't report the rape at all that has nothing to do with waiting. I know the overwhelming majority of women who are sexually assaulted do not report it AT ALL. What I was asking you is for those who do report it what makes you think most of them wait?
http://www.pcar.org/news/why-victims-wait-report

"Victims sometimes need decades to even admit to themselves that what happened to them was abuse, let alone to muster the courage to file a report about what is perhaps the most traumatic physical and psychological betrayal that one can experience."

How can you quote this, yet still seem to be so unable to understand why women don't rush to go report and say they are to blame?

They are to blame when the rapist walks away without consequence. Nothing more.

I get that it's a traumatic experience and all considering that males are also reluctant to come forward when they've been raped. However, it has to be stressed that justice cannot be served if you wait to file charges and if you wait too long and you lose the right to file charges all together. This is why only ONE chick that accused Cosby was able to file criminal charges. How is that justice???!!! Suck it up, get to the cops, get the kit done, and deal with the rest afterwards. Unfortunately this is what has to be done, there's no other way.
 
Westie;c-9871577 said:
konceptjones;c-9871554 said:
Westie;c-9871424 said:
konceptjones;c-9871408 said:
Westie;c-9870378 said:
my proof of what? What I asked you was what is your proof of Most women not going to the cops right away who do report rape. You're not going to give me shit that happened in The seventies as evidence. if only 6 people get prosecuted out of 1000 actual rapes now, do you think the numbers were better in the seventies? Where's your logic there?

For someone who is going so hard in blaming the victims for people getting raped you can't even do a Google search? I don't give a fuck about your TV dad and those old cases.

Since you can't even do a google search yourself, here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ort-rape-or-sexual-assault-survey-claims.html
http://time.com/2905637/campus-rape-assault-prosecution/

And this from the National Institute of Justice that, within three paragraphs, outline that "... a majority of rape victims still do not report their attacks to police..."
https://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/rape-sexual-violence/Pages/rape-notification.aspx

National Institute of Justice said:
... The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) reports that the majority of rapes and sexual assaults perpetrated against women and girls in the United States between 1992 and 2000 were not reported to the police. Only 36 percent of rapes, 34 percent of attempted rapes, and 26 percent of sexual assaults were reported...

I intentionally ignored it because the media has been over saturated with reports about women NOT coming forwards about rape for as long as I can remember so clearly you couldn't have possibly been serious about this idiotic line of questions.

As for the rest of it - Please, do me a favor: Quote me any time I've blamed the victim of rape for being raped. If you can't do that, shut the fuck up about it.

Not once have I blamed the victim for what happened to them. However, every victim of a crime has a duty to report it to the cops as fast as possible. If the victim of a rape or any crime waits to report it then they are directly responsible for the rapist walking away without consequence. The victim DOES deserve blame for that, but not for the actual crime committed against them.

Okay what I said is for the women who report rapes how many wait - that's what I said. If they don't report the rape at all that has nothing to do with waiting. I know the overwhelming majority of women who are sexually assaulted do not report it AT ALL. What I was asking you is for those who do report it what makes you think most of them wait?
http://www.pcar.org/news/why-victims-wait-report

"Victims sometimes need decades to even admit to themselves that what happened to them was abuse, let alone to muster the courage to file a report about what is perhaps the most traumatic physical and psychological betrayal that one can experience."

I'm aware of the whys love.

I think you were guessing that most women wait, destroy evidence, then report. I don't see where it says that. It's cool, we're not going to see eye to eye.

But if I see one more reference to Cosby I'm going to find you and punch you in the dick.

it would be like a baby punching me in the thigh.
 
konceptjones;c-9871674 said:
blackrain;c-9871590 said:
konceptjones;c-9871554 said:
Westie;c-9871424 said:
konceptjones;c-9871408 said:
Westie;c-9870378 said:
my proof of what? What I asked you was what is your proof of Most women not going to the cops right away who do report rape. You're not going to give me shit that happened in The seventies as evidence. if only 6 people get prosecuted out of 1000 actual rapes now, do you think the numbers were better in the seventies? Where's your logic there?

For someone who is going so hard in blaming the victims for people getting raped you can't even do a Google search? I don't give a fuck about your TV dad and those old cases.

Since you can't even do a google search yourself, here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ort-rape-or-sexual-assault-survey-claims.html
http://time.com/2905637/campus-rape-assault-prosecution/

And this from the National Institute of Justice that, within three paragraphs, outline that "... a majority of rape victims still do not report their attacks to police..."
https://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/rape-sexual-violence/Pages/rape-notification.aspx

National Institute of Justice said:
... The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) reports that the majority of rapes and sexual assaults perpetrated against women and girls in the United States between 1992 and 2000 were not reported to the police. Only 36 percent of rapes, 34 percent of attempted rapes, and 26 percent of sexual assaults were reported...

I intentionally ignored it because the media has been over saturated with reports about women NOT coming forwards about rape for as long as I can remember so clearly you couldn't have possibly been serious about this idiotic line of questions.

As for the rest of it - Please, do me a favor: Quote me any time I've blamed the victim of rape for being raped. If you can't do that, shut the fuck up about it.

Not once have I blamed the victim for what happened to them. However, every victim of a crime has a duty to report it to the cops as fast as possible. If the victim of a rape or any crime waits to report it then they are directly responsible for the rapist walking away without consequence. The victim DOES deserve blame for that, but not for the actual crime committed against them.

Okay what I said is for the women who report rapes how many wait - that's what I said. If they don't report the rape at all that has nothing to do with waiting. I know the overwhelming majority of women who are sexually assaulted do not report it AT ALL. What I was asking you is for those who do report it what makes you think most of them wait?
http://www.pcar.org/news/why-victims-wait-report

"Victims sometimes need decades to even admit to themselves that what happened to them was abuse, let alone to muster the courage to file a report about what is perhaps the most traumatic physical and psychological betrayal that one can experience."

How can you quote this, yet still seem to be so unable to understand why women don't rush to go report and say they are to blame?

They are to blame when the rapist walks away without consequence. Nothing more.

I get that it's a traumatic experience and all considering that males are also reluctant to come forward when they've been raped. However, it has to be stressed that justice cannot be served if you wait to file charges and if you wait too long and you lose the right to file charges all together. This is why only ONE chick that accused Cosby was able to file criminal charges. How is that justice???!!! Suck it up, get to the cops, get the kit done, and deal with the rest afterwards. Unfortunately this is what has to be done, there's no other way.

If you get that it's traumatic then you should also get the pointlessness of placing blame onto somebody who just experienced a traumatic effect and not reacting in a rational manner...especially a traumatic effect that can shape the rest of your life
 
blackrain;c-9871782 said:
konceptjones;c-9871674 said:
blackrain;c-9871590 said:
konceptjones;c-9871554 said:
Westie;c-9871424 said:
konceptjones;c-9871408 said:
Westie;c-9870378 said:
my proof of what? What I asked you was what is your proof of Most women not going to the cops right away who do report rape. You're not going to give me shit that happened in The seventies as evidence. if only 6 people get prosecuted out of 1000 actual rapes now, do you think the numbers were better in the seventies? Where's your logic there?

For someone who is going so hard in blaming the victims for people getting raped you can't even do a Google search? I don't give a fuck about your TV dad and those old cases.

Since you can't even do a google search yourself, here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ort-rape-or-sexual-assault-survey-claims.html
http://time.com/2905637/campus-rape-assault-prosecution/

And this from the National Institute of Justice that, within three paragraphs, outline that "... a majority of rape victims still do not report their attacks to police..."
https://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/rape-sexual-violence/Pages/rape-notification.aspx

National Institute of Justice said:
... The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) reports that the majority of rapes and sexual assaults perpetrated against women and girls in the United States between 1992 and 2000 were not reported to the police. Only 36 percent of rapes, 34 percent of attempted rapes, and 26 percent of sexual assaults were reported...

I intentionally ignored it because the media has been over saturated with reports about women NOT coming forwards about rape for as long as I can remember so clearly you couldn't have possibly been serious about this idiotic line of questions.

As for the rest of it - Please, do me a favor: Quote me any time I've blamed the victim of rape for being raped. If you can't do that, shut the fuck up about it.

Not once have I blamed the victim for what happened to them. However, every victim of a crime has a duty to report it to the cops as fast as possible. If the victim of a rape or any crime waits to report it then they are directly responsible for the rapist walking away without consequence. The victim DOES deserve blame for that, but not for the actual crime committed against them.

Okay what I said is for the women who report rapes how many wait - that's what I said. If they don't report the rape at all that has nothing to do with waiting. I know the overwhelming majority of women who are sexually assaulted do not report it AT ALL. What I was asking you is for those who do report it what makes you think most of them wait?
http://www.pcar.org/news/why-victims-wait-report

"Victims sometimes need decades to even admit to themselves that what happened to them was abuse, let alone to muster the courage to file a report about what is perhaps the most traumatic physical and psychological betrayal that one can experience."

How can you quote this, yet still seem to be so unable to understand why women don't rush to go report and say they are to blame?

They are to blame when the rapist walks away without consequence. Nothing more.

I get that it's a traumatic experience and all considering that males are also reluctant to come forward when they've been raped. However, it has to be stressed that justice cannot be served if you wait to file charges and if you wait too long and you lose the right to file charges all together. This is why only ONE chick that accused Cosby was able to file criminal charges. How is that justice???!!! Suck it up, get to the cops, get the kit done, and deal with the rest afterwards. Unfortunately this is what has to be done, there's no other way.

If you get that it's traumatic then you should also get the pointlessness of placing blame onto somebody who just experienced a traumatic effect and not reacting in a rational manner...especially a traumatic effect that can shape the rest of your life

The blame is squarely where it belongs. The rapist is to blame for the crime being committed in the first place, the victim is to blame if he/she gets off without incident because they didn't report it in a timely manner. There's just no getting around that.

Sometimes you just gotta power through some shit no matter how distasteful, disturbing, or what have you. Some things have to be done no matter what; this is one of them.
 
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konceptjones;c-9871677 said:
Westie;c-9871577 said:
konceptjones;c-9871554 said:
Westie;c-9871424 said:
konceptjones;c-9871408 said:
Westie;c-9870378 said:
my proof of what? What I asked you was what is your proof of Most women not going to the cops right away who do report rape. You're not going to give me shit that happened in The seventies as evidence. if only 6 people get prosecuted out of 1000 actual rapes now, do you think the numbers were better in the seventies? Where's your logic there?

For someone who is going so hard in blaming the victims for people getting raped you can't even do a Google search? I don't give a fuck about your TV dad and those old cases.

Since you can't even do a google search yourself, here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ort-rape-or-sexual-assault-survey-claims.html
http://time.com/2905637/campus-rape-assault-prosecution/

And this from the National Institute of Justice that, within three paragraphs, outline that "... a majority of rape victims still do not report their attacks to police..."
https://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/rape-sexual-violence/Pages/rape-notification.aspx

National Institute of Justice said:
... The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) reports that the majority of rapes and sexual assaults perpetrated against women and girls in the United States between 1992 and 2000 were not reported to the police. Only 36 percent of rapes, 34 percent of attempted rapes, and 26 percent of sexual assaults were reported...

I intentionally ignored it because the media has been over saturated with reports about women NOT coming forwards about rape for as long as I can remember so clearly you couldn't have possibly been serious about this idiotic line of questions.

As for the rest of it - Please, do me a favor: Quote me any time I've blamed the victim of rape for being raped. If you can't do that, shut the fuck up about it.

Not once have I blamed the victim for what happened to them. However, every victim of a crime has a duty to report it to the cops as fast as possible. If the victim of a rape or any crime waits to report it then they are directly responsible for the rapist walking away without consequence. The victim DOES deserve blame for that, but not for the actual crime committed against them.

Okay what I said is for the women who report rapes how many wait - that's what I said. If they don't report the rape at all that has nothing to do with waiting. I know the overwhelming majority of women who are sexually assaulted do not report it AT ALL. What I was asking you is for those who do report it what makes you think most of them wait?
http://www.pcar.org/news/why-victims-wait-report

"Victims sometimes need decades to even admit to themselves that what happened to them was abuse, let alone to muster the courage to file a report about what is perhaps the most traumatic physical and psychological betrayal that one can experience."

I'm aware of the whys love.

I think you were guessing that most women wait, destroy evidence, then report. I don't see where it says that. It's cool, we're not going to see eye to eye.

But if I see one more reference to Cosby I'm going to find you and punch you in the dick.

it would be like a baby punching me in the thigh.

Because your dick is impervious to pain? Cuz I hit hard.
 
konceptjones;c-9871790 said:
blackrain;c-9871782 said:
konceptjones;c-9871674 said:
blackrain;c-9871590 said:
konceptjones;c-9871554 said:
Westie;c-9871424 said:
konceptjones;c-9871408 said:
Westie;c-9870378 said:
my proof of what? What I asked you was what is your proof of Most women not going to the cops right away who do report rape. You're not going to give me shit that happened in The seventies as evidence. if only 6 people get prosecuted out of 1000 actual rapes now, do you think the numbers were better in the seventies? Where's your logic there?

For someone who is going so hard in blaming the victims for people getting raped you can't even do a Google search? I don't give a fuck about your TV dad and those old cases.

Since you can't even do a google search yourself, here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ort-rape-or-sexual-assault-survey-claims.html
http://time.com/2905637/campus-rape-assault-prosecution/

And this from the National Institute of Justice that, within three paragraphs, outline that "... a majority of rape victims still do not report their attacks to police..."
https://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/rape-sexual-violence/Pages/rape-notification.aspx

National Institute of Justice said:
... The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) reports that the majority of rapes and sexual assaults perpetrated against women and girls in the United States between 1992 and 2000 were not reported to the police. Only 36 percent of rapes, 34 percent of attempted rapes, and 26 percent of sexual assaults were reported...

I intentionally ignored it because the media has been over saturated with reports about women NOT coming forwards about rape for as long as I can remember so clearly you couldn't have possibly been serious about this idiotic line of questions.

As for the rest of it - Please, do me a favor: Quote me any time I've blamed the victim of rape for being raped. If you can't do that, shut the fuck up about it.

Not once have I blamed the victim for what happened to them. However, every victim of a crime has a duty to report it to the cops as fast as possible. If the victim of a rape or any crime waits to report it then they are directly responsible for the rapist walking away without consequence. The victim DOES deserve blame for that, but not for the actual crime committed against them.

Okay what I said is for the women who report rapes how many wait - that's what I said. If they don't report the rape at all that has nothing to do with waiting. I know the overwhelming majority of women who are sexually assaulted do not report it AT ALL. What I was asking you is for those who do report it what makes you think most of them wait?
http://www.pcar.org/news/why-victims-wait-report

"Victims sometimes need decades to even admit to themselves that what happened to them was abuse, let alone to muster the courage to file a report about what is perhaps the most traumatic physical and psychological betrayal that one can experience."

How can you quote this, yet still seem to be so unable to understand why women don't rush to go report and say they are to blame?

They are to blame when the rapist walks away without consequence. Nothing more.

I get that it's a traumatic experience and all considering that males are also reluctant to come forward when they've been raped. However, it has to be stressed that justice cannot be served if you wait to file charges and if you wait too long and you lose the right to file charges all together. This is why only ONE chick that accused Cosby was able to file criminal charges. How is that justice???!!! Suck it up, get to the cops, get the kit done, and deal with the rest afterwards. Unfortunately this is what has to be done, there's no other way.

If you get that it's traumatic then you should also get the pointlessness of placing blame onto somebody who just experienced a traumatic effect and not reacting in a rational manner...especially a traumatic effect that can shape the rest of your life

The blame is squarely where it belongs. The rapist is to blame for the crime being committed in the first place, the victim is to blame if he/she gets off without incident because they didn't report it in a timely manner. There's just no getting around that.

Sometimes you just gotta power through some shit no matter how distasteful, disturbing, or what have you. Some things have to be done no matter what; this is one of them.

You're very much oversimplifying the trauma a person's mind goes through after being raped and the aftermath of dealing with it.
 
LcnsdbyROYALTY;c-9872335 said:
Damnit, I keep checkin back to see if the bitch finally got charged

I wouldn't worry about it.......not really that serious.

This only happens 2-10% of the time.

Besides, it wouldn't be right to charge her because that might discourage others from coming forward.

No harm no foul.

Well, except for the man who got killed and the gentleman who killed him based on inaccurate information from his girlfriend.

Chalk it up to collateral damage I suppose.
 
deadeye;c-9872345 said:
LcnsdbyROYALTY;c-9872335 said:
Damnit, I keep checkin back to see if the bitch finally got charged

I wouldn't worry about it.......not really that serious.

This only happens 2-10% of the time.

Besides, it wouldn't be right to charge her because that might discourage others from coming forward.

No harm no foul.

Well, except for the man who got killed and the gentleman who killed him based on inaccurate information from his girlfriend.

Chalk it up to collateral damage I suppose.

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blackrain;c-9872310 said:
konceptjones;c-9871790 said:
blackrain;c-9871782 said:
konceptjones;c-9871674 said:
blackrain;c-9871590 said:
konceptjones;c-9871554 said:
Westie;c-9871424 said:
konceptjones;c-9871408 said:
Westie;c-9870378 said:
my proof of what? What I asked you was what is your proof of Most women not going to the cops right away who do report rape. You're not going to give me shit that happened in The seventies as evidence. if only 6 people get prosecuted out of 1000 actual rapes now, do you think the numbers were better in the seventies? Where's your logic there?

For someone who is going so hard in blaming the victims for people getting raped you can't even do a Google search? I don't give a fuck about your TV dad and those old cases.

Since you can't even do a google search yourself, here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ort-rape-or-sexual-assault-survey-claims.html
http://time.com/2905637/campus-rape-assault-prosecution/

And this from the National Institute of Justice that, within three paragraphs, outline that "... a majority of rape victims still do not report their attacks to police..."
https://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/rape-sexual-violence/Pages/rape-notification.aspx

National Institute of Justice said:
... The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) reports that the majority of rapes and sexual assaults perpetrated against women and girls in the United States between 1992 and 2000 were not reported to the police. Only 36 percent of rapes, 34 percent of attempted rapes, and 26 percent of sexual assaults were reported...

I intentionally ignored it because the media has been over saturated with reports about women NOT coming forwards about rape for as long as I can remember so clearly you couldn't have possibly been serious about this idiotic line of questions.

As for the rest of it - Please, do me a favor: Quote me any time I've blamed the victim of rape for being raped. If you can't do that, shut the fuck up about it.

Not once have I blamed the victim for what happened to them. However, every victim of a crime has a duty to report it to the cops as fast as possible. If the victim of a rape or any crime waits to report it then they are directly responsible for the rapist walking away without consequence. The victim DOES deserve blame for that, but not for the actual crime committed against them.

Okay what I said is for the women who report rapes how many wait - that's what I said. If they don't report the rape at all that has nothing to do with waiting. I know the overwhelming majority of women who are sexually assaulted do not report it AT ALL. What I was asking you is for those who do report it what makes you think most of them wait?
http://www.pcar.org/news/why-victims-wait-report

"Victims sometimes need decades to even admit to themselves that what happened to them was abuse, let alone to muster the courage to file a report about what is perhaps the most traumatic physical and psychological betrayal that one can experience."

How can you quote this, yet still seem to be so unable to understand why women don't rush to go report and say they are to blame?

They are to blame when the rapist walks away without consequence. Nothing more.

I get that it's a traumatic experience and all considering that males are also reluctant to come forward when they've been raped. However, it has to be stressed that justice cannot be served if you wait to file charges and if you wait too long and you lose the right to file charges all together. This is why only ONE chick that accused Cosby was able to file criminal charges. How is that justice???!!! Suck it up, get to the cops, get the kit done, and deal with the rest afterwards. Unfortunately this is what has to be done, there's no other way.

If you get that it's traumatic then you should also get the pointlessness of placing blame onto somebody who just experienced a traumatic effect and not reacting in a rational manner...especially a traumatic effect that can shape the rest of your life

The blame is squarely where it belongs. The rapist is to blame for the crime being committed in the first place, the victim is to blame if he/she gets off without incident because they didn't report it in a timely manner. There's just no getting around that.

Sometimes you just gotta power through some shit no matter how distasteful, disturbing, or what have you. Some things have to be done no matter what; this is one of them.

You're very much oversimplifying the trauma a person's mind goes through after being raped and the aftermath of dealing with it.

No I'm not. Some shit you just gotta do no matter what. You can make all the excuses in the world you want, but in order for a rapist to be charged with a crime there are steps that have to be taken in a timely manner otherwise he/she will get off. If you don't do it quickly, or are unwilling to do it, then keep it to yourself and move forward with your life. It's the same with any other crime committed against you.
 

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