Django Unchained 2012

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thefabmd2dc;5327273 said:
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Well the KKK scene with the comedy was kinda pushing it for me. Those are racists who wanted to castrate a slave I don't need to see them being portrayed as funny.

Its no where near as bad as some people are making it out to be its a very good movie in fact but Spike lee has every reason to not like the movie since QT hits all the same beats with his movies and this picture just happened to deal with a period that is very ugly and often ignored or downplayed for that very reason.

But they werent telling jokes during the klan part...what was supposed to be funny was the situation that they were in, not the actual klan members...i saw nothing wrong wit that part cuz i dont think this movie was meant to educate in any way...
 
There's enough comedy in the movie for you to be able to give white people the side eye for laughing at certain parts and that's probably why some people are pissed about this movie.

I mean I can tell what parts are supposed to be funny and what parts are supposed to be viewed as hard. All the slave beatings and killings are hard but when you get a scene where a bunch of plantation owners are going around gabbing and yucking with a coon its meant to be funny.

There's a complete and utter lack of solemnness on certain aspects of how fucked up slave life was. I mean I don't want to call it satire but its pretty close to satire and for those that brought up inglorious basterds you're right they'd never ever view the holocaust in a satirical sense and that's kinda unfair.
 
s2jepeka;5319071 said:
blackrain;5319028 said:
obnoxiouslyfresh;5316988 said:
almighty breeze;5311879 said:
Django was incredibly offensive, insensitive and outrageous......and I loved every minute. Loved the near totality of the slave experience captured. Brough up more aspects than "whipping" & "runaways." You could dig up an Aubrey Skinned House slave and he wouldnt be as much a coon as Samuel Jackson was.

"Nigger" wasnt used ENOUGH. More slaves should have been whipped. More families destroyed. More mental destruction and taught mistrust. Show everything or not at all. You're Tarantino if anyones going overboard & getting a pass for it it's you. Dont get mushy on me Quentin.

These kind of comments are always so striking to me. Why does he get a pass? Like seriously, in his coke-hazed way, I'm certain he's laughing all the way to the bank. Tarantino makes decent films but he is a cultural tourist of the worse kind and I wouldn't spend a single red penny on a self indulgent movie like Django. He is a one trick pony who thinks stomach churning violence likens him to Billy Wilder and Alfred Hitchcock which he has actually fixed his lips to say, and sweetheart you are certainly no Alfred Hitchcock. He's not even (hardly) Steven Spielberg. I just cannot begin to fathom how many black people can sit and enjoy a movie about slavery that has garnered virtually universal acclaim from white folks. That should be unsettling to people on its face. He knows very well which audiences he can offend and who is the least likely to even realize they're being insulted.

That's happened before though. Roots got universal acclaim and still does...Denzel's performance in Glory won him an Oscar and the scene where he gets whooped for leaving the camp is still said to be one of his best scenes in his career and to some one of the best in film history. The Color Purple as well...films with slavery/slaves as the topic or part of the story can garner universal acclaim simply based on the performance of the actors.

And your explanantion is exactly the problem

You comparing Roots, Color Purple, and Glory: Dramas, films that delved into historical ugly truths...to this movie, which basically piggybacks off slavery to enhance Tarantino's 'vengeance gore' schtick...AND its a quasi-comedy

Thank YOU!!! He's using slavery as the backdrop for another one of his gory revenge tales. Nothing more! He is not fully qualified to put a correct eye on this story and does not care to be sensitive with style or content. He merely created a vehicle to separate folks from their money, by exploiting the press he knew he would, invariably, get with something so outrageous. And of course niggas will be the first to defend.

 
blackrain;5320279 said:
s2jepeka;5319071 said:
blackrain;5319028 said:
obnoxiouslyfresh;5316988 said:
almighty breeze;5311879 said:
Django was incredibly offensive, insensitive and outrageous......and I loved every minute. Loved the near totality of the slave experience captured. Brough up more aspects than "whipping" & "runaways." You could dig up an Aubrey Skinned House slave and he wouldnt be as much a coon as Samuel Jackson was.

"Nigger" wasnt used ENOUGH. More slaves should have been whipped. More families destroyed. More mental destruction and taught mistrust. Show everything or not at all. You're Tarantino if anyones going overboard & getting a pass for it it's you. Dont get mushy on me Quentin.

These kind of comments are always so striking to me. Why does he get a pass? Like seriously, in his coke-hazed way, I'm certain he's laughing all the way to the bank. Tarantino makes decent films but he is a cultural tourist of the worse kind and I wouldn't spend a single red penny on a self indulgent movie like Django. He is a one trick pony who thinks stomach churning violence likens him to Billy Wilder and Alfred Hitchcock which he has actually fixed his lips to say, and sweetheart you are certainly no Alfred Hitchcock. He's not even (hardly) Steven Spielberg. I just cannot begin to fathom how many black people can sit and enjoy a movie about slavery that has garnered virtually universal acclaim from white folks. That should be unsettling to people on its face. He knows very well which audiences he can offend and who is the least likely to even realize they're being insulted.

That's happened before though. Roots got universal acclaim and still does...Denzel's performance in Glory won him an Oscar and the scene where he gets whooped for leaving the camp is still said to be one of his best scenes in his career and to some one of the best in film history. The Color Purple as well...films with slavery/slaves as the topic or part of the story can garner universal acclaim simply based on the performance of the actors.

And your explanantion is exactly the problem

You comparing Roots, Color Purple, and Glory: Dramas, films that delved into historical ugly truths...to this movie, which basically piggybacks off slavery to enhance Tarantino's 'vengeance gore' schtick...AND its a quasi-comedy

@s2jepeka I was comparing them in the context of that one statement I bolded. To simply say a movie about slavery that garners critical acclaim from whites shouldn't be enjoyed by blacks as well is a very broad statement to make.

I said it should make you uncomfortable, at the very MINIMUM. Any self-respecting negro would be intent on critically examining such a film that was created by a white filmmaker. Especially considering that the filmmaker in question has a history of work that indicates some sort of weird racial fantasy that is disturbing to say the very least. It cannot be compared to Roots, and though I have not seen it, I can make an intelligent assumption that it will not be effective in the manner that Roots was.
 
Just finished watchin Django...on bootleg...I wish a nigga would pay a jew a goddamn dollar tryin to sell him a fictional anecdote of his OWN story.

So....what do I think of this film...its aight. I like how they made Django a strong male lead he wasnt a supporting role character.

Use of the word nigger accurately portrayed the attitudes and mores of european savages. Its disingenuous to have the Docs appalled demeanor towards this inhumane treatment after all Germany was in Africa doing some of the same shit.

The only issue I have with this flick is how the main villain hat was laid on the head of the house nigger. He was the last kill and Leo's character got off light getting done clean through the heart. It is disingenuous to portray a house nigger as the main villain when the only power he derives is from the european slavers. Truly Sam Jack's character was a despicable one, but its dishonest to make the white characters periphery characters thus making their deaths meaningless. The main villain should have been a white man and he should have been killed by Django. IJS

Now line of the movie is "I suggest all you black folk step away from all these white folk..."

 
Karl.;5327416 said:
In summary... Blacks lose for hating on a film where blacks win.

LOL @ this. Yea I should rejoice at the fact The black Guy didn't even:

Kill the main villain of the movie. Django killed nothing but side characters. Leo was the main villain and he was killed by the White Savoir, SMH. Then to make matter worst they made Django kill the House Negro Sam, black on black crime. How is anyone giving QT a pass for not letting Django kill the MAIN villain?, SMH.

 
this is one of those films with classic quotes. its quotable.

" are you positive? no? why not? because i dont know what positive mean."
 
its funny how when intelligent black ppl decide to slightly scrutinize something we see about how we're portrayed we're militant....jus tell yall niggas some jokes and yall gucci huh??
 
ok here is all the other screeners out in the last 2 weeks.

Perks of being a wallflower

Lincoln

Flight

Skyfall

This is 40

Django Unchained

Impossile

Killing Them Softly

The Hobbit

West of Memphis

Hitchcock

Zero Dark Thirty

7 psychopaths

The sessions

Rust and Bone

Not fade away

Cloud Atlas

Arbitrage

Beast of the southern Wild

are all out chexk em out

only waiting for

Les Miserables

Silver Linings Playbook

The Master

 
Rondre Sleaze Twin;5330983 said:
ok here is all the other screeners out in the last 2 weeks.

Perks of being a wallflower

Lincoln

Flight

Skyfall

This is 40

Django Unchained

Impossile

Killing Them Softly

The Hobbit

West of Memphis

Hitchcock

Zero Dark Thirty

7 psychopaths

The sessions

Rust and Bone

Not fade away

Cloud Atlas

Arbitrage

Beast of the southern Wild

are all out chexk em out

only waiting for

Les Miserables

Silver Linings Playbook

The Master

lol I usually keep the IC updated but I got too much shit going on
 

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