Django Unchained 2012

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kingblaze84;5319748 said:
8aw$3Man3;5319526 said:
DROSODAMFUNNY;5319394 said:
8aw$3Man3;5319065 said:
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DROSODAMFUNNY;5318929 said:
8aw$3Man3;5318876 said:
DROSODAMFUNNY;5318665 said:
AYE..

BACK IN SLAVERY DAYS.. DID THEY REALLY HAVE NIGGAZ FIGHTING EACH OTHER LIKE THAT?

IVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS UNTIL I SAW THE MOVIE

yes , even after slavery. they'd have these underground bare boxing matches, where niggaz would fight till death or near death. and they'd gamble on em.

this was big in metropolitan areas .

and it's also symbolic to how whites enjoy and love putting niggaz against one another.

THATS CRAZY CAUSE THAT SIDE OF SLAVERY HAD NEVER BEEN TALKED ABOUT..OR ATLEAST TO MY KNOWLEDGE

theres alot of shit they don't talk about, forexample during slavery they use to use lil black baby boys as gator bait.

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YEAH, I KNEW ABOUT THE GATOR BAIT SHYT.... I WISH THEY WOULD GONE AND MAKE A REAL SLAVE MOVIE, WITH ALLLL THAT SHYT IN IT.. GONE AND TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH

never will happen, the closest they ever came to was "goodbye uncle tom". i remember i saw goodbye uncle tom. i straight up hated white ppl for a while.

I never heard of that movie I wana check it out.....I remember hating White people for a long time after watching Roots (mostly cuz of the scene of Kizzy being sold away)

I NEVER SAW IT EITHER, BUT THE WHOLE MOVIE IS ON YOUTUBE... JUST TYPE IN goodbye uncle tom AND IT WILL COME UP, IMA WATCH IT ONCE I GET HOME
 
DROSODAMFUNNY;5319815 said:
kingblaze84;5319748 said:
8aw$3Man3;5319526 said:
DROSODAMFUNNY;5319394 said:
8aw$3Man3;5319065 said:
8aw$3Man3;5319065 said:
DROSODAMFUNNY;5318929 said:
8aw$3Man3;5318876 said:
DROSODAMFUNNY;5318665 said:
AYE..

BACK IN SLAVERY DAYS.. DID THEY REALLY HAVE NIGGAZ FIGHTING EACH OTHER LIKE THAT?

IVE NEVER HEARD OF THIS UNTIL I SAW THE MOVIE

yes , even after slavery. they'd have these underground bare boxing matches, where niggaz would fight till death or near death. and they'd gamble on em.

this was big in metropolitan areas .

and it's also symbolic to how whites enjoy and love putting niggaz against one another.

THATS CRAZY CAUSE THAT SIDE OF SLAVERY HAD NEVER BEEN TALKED ABOUT..OR ATLEAST TO MY KNOWLEDGE

theres alot of shit they don't talk about, forexample during slavery they use to use lil black baby boys as gator bait.

gator+bait9.jpg


gator+bait11.jpg


1900sc_postcard-alligator_01.jpg


1960sc_alligator_pencil_holder_view1.jpg


1940sc_postcard_alligator_01.jpg

YEAH, I KNEW ABOUT THE GATOR BAIT SHYT.... I WISH THEY WOULD GONE AND MAKE A REAL SLAVE MOVIE, WITH ALLLL THAT SHYT IN IT.. GONE AND TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH

never will happen, the closest they ever came to was "goodbye uncle tom". i remember i saw goodbye uncle tom. i straight up hated white ppl for a while.

I never heard of that movie I wana check it out.....I remember hating White people for a long time after watching Roots (mostly cuz of the scene of Kizzy being sold away)

I NEVER SAW IT EITHER, BUT THE WHOLE MOVIE IS ON YOUTUBE... JUST TYPE IN goodbye uncle tom AND IT WILL COME UP, IMA WATCH IT ONCE I GET HOME

Thanks okay I'll check it out later today.....and yeah I wish they made Bane more like the comic books
 
@stopitfive seems to see shyt how i see it.

The unbridled praise for this movie reminds me of when Dave Chapelle quit his show. He basically said the jokes he was telling, white people were laughin a different kind of way. He was tellin jokes that originated out of shared experience, to the point where those who SHARED the experience/bond can joke n laugh...yet white people just come in yuckin it up with NO CONTEXT or bond/history, to the point where you ask: what exactly are you laughin at!?!

Thats whats irkin me here. "This was a great movie. I loved it!" Oh really? With the exclamation and all, huh? Lol Smh
 
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s_a_m_r_i_o;5319742 said:
Once again, if you didn't see the movie stay the fuck out of the thread.

The movie was good, the N word was said about 30 times at most (not that exaggerated 100 times shit people been talking about) and the part with the Klan was hilarious.

I was in tears with the Klan part... that fool said 'Next time, we gonna come back in FUUULLLL REGALIA!' I was so weak LOL!!
 
s_a_m_r_i_o;5319742 said:
Once again, if you didn't see the movie stay the fuck out of the thread.

The movie was good, the N word was said about 30 times at most (not that exaggerated 100 times shit people been talking about) and the part with the Klan was hilarious.

I think the N word was used more than 30 times but definitely less then 100, it wasn't used any more or less than an average Roots episode. And yeah that Klan scene was funny as hell lol.....the movie was much better than I thought it would be.
 
s2jepeka;5319837 said:
@stopitfive seems to see shyt how i see it.

The unbridled praise for this movie reminds me of when Dave Chapelle quit his show. He basically said the jokes he was telling, white people were laughin a different kind of way. He was tellin jokes that originated out of shared experience, to the point where those who SHARED the experience/bond can joke n laugh...yet white people just come in yuckin it up with NO CONTEXT or bond/history, to the point where you ask: what exactly are you laughin at!?!

Thats whats irkin me here. "This was a great movie. I loved it!" Oh really? With the exclamation and all, huh? Lol Smh

The movie showed the evils of slavery and saw Django kill all the crackas involved in it, what can be so bad about a movie like that? Some scenes had comedy but you act like Roots didn't have scenes of comedy either. It was a great movie and honestly I can't think of any way to improve the movie except MORE dead slave owners. But hey no movie is perfect
 
s2jepeka;5319071 said:
blackrain;5319028 said:
obnoxiouslyfresh;5316988 said:
almighty breeze;5311879 said:
Django was incredibly offensive, insensitive and outrageous......and I loved every minute. Loved the near totality of the slave experience captured. Brough up more aspects than "whipping" & "runaways." You could dig up an Aubrey Skinned House slave and he wouldnt be as much a coon as Samuel Jackson was.

"Nigger" wasnt used ENOUGH. More slaves should have been whipped. More families destroyed. More mental destruction and taught mistrust. Show everything or not at all. You're Tarantino if anyones going overboard & getting a pass for it it's you. Dont get mushy on me Quentin.

These kind of comments are always so striking to me. Why does he get a pass? Like seriously, in his coke-hazed way, I'm certain he's laughing all the way to the bank. Tarantino makes decent films but he is a cultural tourist of the worse kind and I wouldn't spend a single red penny on a self indulgent movie like Django. He is a one trick pony who thinks stomach churning violence likens him to Billy Wilder and Alfred Hitchcock which he has actually fixed his lips to say, and sweetheart you are certainly no Alfred Hitchcock. He's not even (hardly) Steven Spielberg. I just cannot begin to fathom how many black people can sit and enjoy a movie about slavery that has garnered virtually universal acclaim from white folks. That should be unsettling to people on its face. He knows very well which audiences he can offend and who is the least likely to even realize they're being insulted.

That's happened before though. Roots got universal acclaim and still does...Denzel's performance in Glory won him an Oscar and the scene where he gets whooped for leaving the camp is still said to be one of his best scenes in his career and to some one of the best in film history. The Color Purple as well...films with slavery/slaves as the topic or part of the story can garner universal acclaim simply based on the performance of the actors.

And your explanantion is exactly the problem

You comparing Roots, Color Purple, and Glory: Dramas, films that delved into historical ugly truths...to this movie, which basically piggybacks off slavery to enhance Tarantino's 'vengeance gore' schtick...AND its a quasi-comedy

@s2jepeka I was comparing them in the context of that one statement I bolded. To simply say a movie about slavery that garners critical acclaim from whites shouldn't be enjoyed by blacks as well is a very broad statement to make.
 
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blackrain;5320279 said:
s2jepeka;5319071 said:
blackrain;5319028 said:
obnoxiouslyfresh;5316988 said:
almighty breeze;5311879 said:
Django was incredibly offensive, insensitive and outrageous......and I loved every minute. Loved the near totality of the slave experience captured. Brough up more aspects than "whipping" & "runaways." You could dig up an Aubrey Skinned House slave and he wouldnt be as much a coon as Samuel Jackson was.

"Nigger" wasnt used ENOUGH. More slaves should have been whipped. More families destroyed. More mental destruction and taught mistrust. Show everything or not at all. You're Tarantino if anyones going overboard & getting a pass for it it's you. Dont get mushy on me Quentin.

These kind of comments are always so striking to me. Why does he get a pass? Like seriously, in his coke-hazed way, I'm certain he's laughing all the way to the bank. Tarantino makes decent films but he is a cultural tourist of the worse kind and I wouldn't spend a single red penny on a self indulgent movie like Django. He is a one trick pony who thinks stomach churning violence likens him to Billy Wilder and Alfred Hitchcock which he has actually fixed his lips to say, and sweetheart you are certainly no Alfred Hitchcock. He's not even (hardly) Steven Spielberg. I just cannot begin to fathom how many black people can sit and enjoy a movie about slavery that has garnered virtually universal acclaim from white folks. That should be unsettling to people on its face. He knows very well which audiences he can offend and who is the least likely to even realize they're being insulted.

That's happened before though. Roots got universal acclaim and still does...Denzel's performance in Glory won him an Oscar and the scene where he gets whooped for leaving the camp is still said to be one of his best scenes in his career and to some one of the best in film history. The Color Purple as well...films with slavery/slaves as the topic or part of the story can garner universal acclaim simply based on the performance of the actors.

And your explanantion is exactly the problem

You comparing Roots, Color Purple, and Glory: Dramas, films that delved into historical ugly truths...to this movie, which basically piggybacks off slavery to enhance Tarantino's 'vengeance gore' schtick...AND its a quasi-comedy

@s2jepeka I was comparing them in the context of that one statement I bolded. To simply say a movie about slavery that garners critical acclaim from whites shouldn't be enjoyed by blacks as well is a very broad statement to make.

Oh i understand exactly what you're saying, and my point still applies.

The fact that Django is a movie about slavery and gets white praise isnt why I/we have a problem.

Its the type of movie it is thats the problem. Its not a historical piece/teaching point/documentary/etc. Its Grindhouse w/ slavery. Its comedic. None of the movies i mentioned were intentionally funny to Django's extent, nor was Lincoln, or Amistad, nor will 12 Years a Slave be, etc. thus the reason you shouldnt even mention those works.

 
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ms.jones;5319844 said:
s_a_m_r_i_o;5319742 said:
Once again, if you didn't see the movie stay the fuck out of the thread.

The movie was good, the N word was said about 30 times at most (not that exaggerated 100 times shit people been talking about) and the part with the Klan was hilarious.

I was in tears with the Klan part... that fool said 'Next time, we gonna come back in FUUULLLL REGALIA!' I was so weak LOL!!

I went to see it for the 2nd time yesterday

That shit had everybody in the theater laughing. Dude was like "All that matters is if the fuckin horse can see" lol
 
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"DJANGO UNCHAINED" GRADE = C+

Well I finally got a chance to see what is easily the most controversial film of the year and of QT's career. The movie was average at best and here's why. 1st let me say technically it was a very well made film. Jamie, Sam, Leo and Waltz all gave really strong performances in the roles and drove the movie. It was shot very well as the shots of the landscapes of middle America were really accented. It was more Western than Blaxplotation as everyone was saying but I guess that was QT's point. I did enjoy the Action of the film and it was very positive to see a Black Hero take no prisoners. That right there was enough for my C+ grade.

The reason why it couldn't get higher was the movie's flaws outshinned what was good about it. 1st we all have gone back and forth about how slavery should and shouldn't be portrayed in film. I really think in this case QT uses it a gimmick to drive the story when it honestly probably wasn't even needed. He could of set this after the Civil War. America was still very racist and he could of had the same scenario because even though Slaves were free, many slaves stayed the south and continued to work on Plantations. So I do agree with people saying he used Slavery as a "Shock Value" thing. Next it was clear the "White Savoir" formula wither purposely or not was used to drive this story. It should of been called "Dr. King Swaltz" unchained cause the movie is basically told through his perspective.

He basically has to guide Django every step of the way which falls right in line with the Blacks can't do anything for ourselves concept. It basically has a buddy cop feel to it, think 48 hours or Lethal Weapon of the 1850's. Next the movie was about 30 minutes way to long and it effected the pacing. So he frees Django, breaks down the bounty hunter business and takes him on about 2 bounties. Next thing you know they find the Brittle Brothers very quickly. There was no character development with Django's character. QT should of spent more time training Django and show him learning things from Waltz so the 1st act feels very rushed. The KKK origins was funny but as everyone knows the KKK was no laughing matter for Black People in America.

Now when they finally get to the Plantation. Kerry Washington had to be the weakest written woman character QT has ever done in his career. He whole role was about 10 lines, the rest she was speaking German. Then she was whipped, nude and just again a weak character. He had her showing zero strength at all to me. Leo played a really good Plantation owner and yes Sam did killed it as Uncle Tom/Rukus character but it was exaggerated but maybe that's what they were going for. As for how Slavery was depicted, he showed the brutal sides. The Mandigo fighting, Dogs attacking the Slave, Lashings/Whippings. The whole near castration scene. And even the opening scene with him getting Django. QT didn't in my view trivialize the brutality of Slavery but he used it in a way to remind the audience of the horrors while keeping the story going.

So we get to the climax of the film and not to my surprise. Django doesn't even get to kill the main villain, Dr. King does. We basically get two endings cause of course it would of been wack for it to end that way. Django comes back and wreaks havoc and saves the day. There was some social commentary if you read between the lines but QT didn't really make it a point to have the message spelled out for you. It was done suddenly. I do feel the movie was trying to be overly comedic for it subject matter. The Music was good in spots and terrible in others. Here I am trying to feel like I'm in Slave times in the 1800's and Rick Ross comes on like it's a damn rap video, SMH, through way out of the moment. Some of the music just doesn't work cause again using modern music in a period piece just throws it off.

Now here's where I feel Spike was right without even seeing it. Slavery was a very serious issue in America History. I do agree with him that making an Action Adventure Slavery movie for the masses is kinda watering down the history. Someone in the "Django" review thread said, "White People hung there heads after watching Roots, Rosewood, Burning in Mississippi etc. They were laughing and having a good time with Django". I kinda agree with this. Sure he showed how horrible White people were back then but the movie didn't really in my view go even far enough. I think early criticism of the script forced him to take out things that might have helped the story to me. Beside Waltz Killing Candie being horrible (Can't let the Black Hero kill the main villain, SMH). As for the N-word. Again I understand it was Slave times so I let it go but QT did OD on for the sake of it, "Niggerhurcules", Really QT? Getting jokes off it, SMH.

He had the nerve to ultimately make Sam basically the main villain (Black on Black crime, lol). So it's an uneven movie at best. The Technical side was great but the story, pacing and other issues affected it. I understand why some Black enjoyed it cause at it's core it was about getting "The Man" back. Jamie whipping one of the Brittle Brothers was one of the most powerful images for me. As Well as him riding the horse to save his women. Overall I kinda see and understand what QT was trying to do but he should of through it through a little more. So it did entertain but I couldn't help watching it wondering did it slightly water down slavery just for being again an Action Adventure Slavery film. It ranks in the Bottom half of QT's career:

#1. Pulp Fiction (A+)

#2. Reservoir Dogs (B+)

#3. Jackie Brown (B)

#4. Kill Bill (B)

#5. Inglorious Bastards (B -)

#6. Kill Bill 2 (B -)

#7. Django Unchained (C +)

#8. Death Proof (C -)
 
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^^^^Thats a spot on review. especially the point about Django's character not even being developed, and white people laughin n havin a good time w/ this movie.
 
I saw the movie. It was a good action flick, but it felt a little rushed. I still enjoyed it and it wasn't as bad as people made it to be. The action scenes were dope too and I laugh hard at some of the death scenes. All in all, it was a pretty good popcorn flick.
 
I ain't reading 11 pages of comments, but just talking to my friends and shit, I've yet to hear a solid argument about what was wrong with the movie and why it's being hated on so much. The only thing I had a problem with were the allusions to MLK. Beyond that, there's no issue here.
 
affiliatemoney101;5326706 said:
I saw the movie. It was a good action flick, but it felt a little rushed. I still enjoyed it and it wasn't as bad as people made it to be. The action scenes were dope too and I laugh hard at some of the death scenes. All in all, it was a pretty good popcorn flick.
how that hell you rush a 3 hour movie?

check lol
 
Well the KKK scene with the comedy was kinda pushing it for me. Those are racists who wanted to castrate a slave I don't need to see them being portrayed as funny.

Its no where near as bad as some people are making it out to be its a very good movie in fact but Spike lee has every reason to not like the movie since QT hits all the same beats with his movies and this picture just happened to deal with a period that is very ugly and often ignored or downplayed for that very reason.

 

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