Why is Obama challenging the Arizona law when MOST Americans support it......?

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ThugLife101;838059 said:
I didn't realize I was talking to a La Raza spokesman. Mexico signed the Treaty of Guadalupe which makes Texas and everything in the southwest American territory.
No, you said "protect the borders" and I reminded you that Mexico protected its borders and whites still STOLE the land and BROKE the treaties with them. So youd ont get to talk about immigration when you are the decendent of immigrants. Lying, cheating, stealing ones at that.
And all American territory is established by treaties with the Native Americans as well.
*see following post ...

konceptjones;838305 said:
speaking on behalf of the Native Americans that live in the SW, I say you have no fuckin idea of what you're talking about.

Yeah, we'll slaughter as many tribal people as we can, then come to their chief and tell 'em that unless you sign this treaty, we'll lay waste to the rest of your people. Sign it, and we'll give you a lil spot of land to hold, but don't get any cute ideas 'cause we can always come and get that back.

FOH.

This land was ours to begin with. The land that Spain gave to the US was our land.
 
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Most americans support the law? Nawwwwww you got it all backwards, the large majority outside of rich utopias have shown distaste for the law.
 
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konceptjones;838305 said:
speaking on behalf of the Native Americans that live in the SW, I say you have no fuckin idea of what you're talking about.

Yeah, we'll slaughter as many tribal people as we can, then come to their chief and tell 'em that unless you sign this treaty, we'll lay waste to the rest of your people. Sign it, and we'll give you a lil spot of land to hold, but don't get any cute ideas 'cause we can always come and get that back.

FOH.

This land was ours to begin with. The land that Spain gave to the US was our land.

As if those natives were peaceful and didn't steal land from each other. I think if you liberals would get your heads out of the 19th century, you wouldn't be in such dire straits this year
 
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CMac;839681 said:
61% of those people are mainly white republicans, polls like that be bullshit cuz they don't get all people's view. Everyone who isn't rich or republican hate that fucking racist Law. Let me restate that power hungry republicans.

fixed.......
 
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CMac;839681 said:
61% of those people are mainly white republicans, polls like that be bullshit cuz they don't get all people's view. Everyone who isn't white or republican hate that fucking racist Law. Let me restate that even some non-white republicans don't support it.

LOL. According to your logic Obama was elected by white republicans
 
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DarcSkies777;838010 said:
lol @ every country having a right to Sovereignty. If thats the case give Texas back to Mexican and the midwest back to the Native Tribes. OH YOU DONT BELIEVE IN SOVEREIGNTY NOW RIGHT?
oh, Darc, don't do this: if we're giving land back to the natives, why would Mexicans get any of it back? they're white people who took native land too!

DarcSkies777;838344 said:
I reminded you that Mexico protected its borders and whites still STOLE the land and BROKE the treaties with them
whites cheating whites. meh
 
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dholt23;841425 said:
like bush wasen't,

They both are, the funny part is you people think there's a difference.

Wake Up buddy they are all on the same team, you ( the Dumbed down American People arent on that Team )
 
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konceptjones;835893 said:
Let's be real here; they're not taking positions from doctors, engineers, lawyers, politicians, nurses, or anything else even remotely skilled. They're getting jobs pickin' vegetables, fast food, landscaping, and anything janitorial... that's about it.

Ok, let's be real... how much state and federal funding go to illegals (the majority which is sad to say is hispanics) which have no right to those funds? Here is a small reflection of the EXTRA costs it takes on the taxpayers to provide (unwarranted) support for illegals: http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=17193&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1901

Here is some more on healthcare: http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm
 
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the_underground;836321 said:
FMP, polls are bullshit and biased. No adult I know is ever polled for the shit they show ion TV. Bet you 100 bucks the people who are agreeing with this law are conservative, white, and mostly middle class. I was in Arizona and a lot of people on the border I met didn't care about people coming across. If anything, they hated Border Patrol more that migrants.

I could care less why he's challenging it, even if it's to save his campaign. The bill is racist and xenophobic, and should be challenged, as well as the racist mindset of people who support it, which I still don't think is really the majority of people's opinions in the states. Not from younger people, anyways.

How is it racists (based on the definition of racists) and xenophobic? Xenophobic, meh, I guess we should sue those who are goraphobic and have societal issues. What about illegal means ILLEGAL don't you understand. And don't dismiss the FACT that because the MAJORITY of illegals are of hispanic descent, it is not hispanics that are being outed, but illegals... and as stated just because they are the majority (which shows a lack of integrity on their part for knowingly breaking a law or claiming ignorance), it isn't racists if most apprehended are of illegal descent. Being that this country is, and I mean IS a melting pot, yelling out xenophobic is just a shock vale word.

I support it... and I sure as hell no i'm not racists. I just feel that there are laws and procedures that are set in place for a reason. And to tolerate one infraction can lead to chaos and anarchy (with time). I'm sure you don't want that. And being a former marine and current soldier, I don't really like the fact that money is being given to those who are not deserving of it based on the requirement of being a citizen or naturalized. How would you feel if you took your kid(s) to the hospital and had to wait while illegals could just walk in and get seen because they are recieving medical benefit subsidies from the government. That's not a comfortable feeling is it? It's beyond the shock value of terms like racists or xenophobia... while there are ignorance out there that do not make the initiative appealing, those terms do not reflect (I feel) the majority who support it.
 
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DarcSkies777;837273 said:
Most Americans supported slavery

Most Americans supported the British pre-revolutionary war

Most Americans supported Jim Crow

Most Americans support racial profiling

Most Americans supported violence again the Native Americans

Most Americans supported the Iraq War

Most Americans supported torture

Most Americans supported G.W. Bush............TWICE

Most Americans are fucking STUPID.

Sadly, i'm going to have to agree... vehemently with the last.
 
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Lol @ this idiot for thinking treaties are signed fair and square and had the interest of the people at hand... ah silly simpleton..
 
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kingjust627;841914 said:
How is it racists (based on the definition of racists) and xenophobic? Xenophobic, meh, I guess we should sue those who are goraphobic and have societal issues. What about illegal means ILLEGAL don't you understand. And don't dismiss the FACT that because the MAJORITY of illegals are of hispanic descent, it is not hispanics that are being outed, but illegals... and as stated just because they are the majority (which shows a lack of integrity on their part for knowingly breaking a law or claiming ignorance), it isn't racists if most apprehended are of illegal descent. Being that this country is, and I mean IS a melting pot, yelling out xenophobic is just a shock vale word.

I support it... and I sure as hell no i'm not racists. I just feel that there are laws and procedures that are set in place for a reason. And to tolerate one infraction can lead to chaos and anarchy (with time). I'm sure you don't want that. And being a former marine and current soldier, I don't really like the fact that money is being given to those who are not deserving of it based on the requirement of being a citizen or naturalized. How would you feel if you took your kid(s) to the hospital and had to wait while illegals could just walk in and get seen because they are recieving medical benefit subsidies from the government. That's not a comfortable feeling is it? It's beyond the shock value of terms like racists or xenophobia... while there are ignorance out there that do not make the initiative appealing, those terms do not reflect (I feel) the majority who support it.

point to where I said anything about alladat...

... I'll wait...

I was talking SPECIFICALLY about jobs. Jobs that all these people swear up and down the illegals are stealing from them. The government services part is easy as hell to take care of: Require that ONLY US citizens that are registered to vote be allowed to utilize the services. State run hospitals and clinics will require the same or a visa or passport stamped within a few days of the day they need service.

It really doesn't take rocket science to take the financial strain off of the welfare system. No one wants to do it because it would be akin to political suicide.

Oh, and, for the record... Your little hospital scenario won't happen to me whenever I take my kids to the Indian Medical Center in Phoenix. You have to be a card carrying member of a tribe in order to even make it past the receptionist.
 
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