Why I raise my children without God.

[Gold_Certificate]

No one stated that the supernatural controlled our decisions

Never said anyone did b.

 

[Lot86]

as far as would i raise my kids up with religion, probably especially since the culture in my country is so closely tied to religion. but i will at the same time foster in them an inquisitive and analytically nature, and i think this'll be easy because islam isn't anti-science like christianity can be

i will say islamic school prepared to learn very well, because there's nothing like developing an ability to memorize and retain information at that young an age

There's plenty of science that coincides with the Quran, the whole big bang theory is in the Quran, plus plenty of more, you should look into it.

 

[ohhhla]

People being dishonest in religion topics and putting words in other people's mouthq

 

[Bodhi]

What discovery has your ugly ass made?

n/h at calling another man ugly. By calling him ugly, you're comparing him to someone else you think is attractive.

 

[Bodhi]

Anyway, the application of logic alone disproves the existence of an all powerful god, especially the Abrahamic version. There' s a lot of bad arguments in here but because I was late to this thread, I'm not going to waste my time in addressing them unless I get bored at work later on.

 

[VIBE]

Bambi was deleted in my thread?

Nice.

 

[VIBE]

Deleted = banned.

I'm a dumbass.

 

[zombie]

What discovery has your ugly ass made?

n/h at calling another man ugly. By calling him ugly, you're comparing him to someone else you think is attractive.

No man is attractive but not everyman is ugly you stupid fuck.

 

[zombie]

Anyway, the application of logic alone disproves the existence of an all powerful god, especially the Abrahamic version. There' s a lot of bad arguments in here but because I was late to this thread, I'm not going to waste my time in addressing them unless I get bored at work later on.

You are a fucking buddist, you are not even a real atheist meaning you are is just a thin slice away from being in a religion so you really are just a fucking deluded hypocrite.

 

[zombie]

Anyway, the application of logic alone disproves the existence of an all powerful god, especially the Abrahamic version. There' s a lot of bad arguments in here but because I was late to this thread, I'm not going to waste my time in addressing them unless I get bored at work later on.

fuck you. fuck you're bullshit logic, and the misunderstandings you have about the abrahamic god.

 

[The True Flesh]

Might I suggest an approach that leans more in the direction of agnosticism as opposed to staunch atheism with regards to raising your children.......there's nothing wrong with saying, "I just don't know."

Children are very perceptive these days and they will see how butt-hurt you apparently are about belief in a diety and if you have multiple kids, chances are pretty good that at least one (if not all) will go through a rebellious phase and embrace what you abhor the most.......since this is "god" in your case they may be drawn to religion in it's harmful form.......you don't want that!!!!!!!

Analytical thought and deductive reasoning are great tools to arm your children with.......don't take a stance that could later breed resentment, because believe me when I say: When they become adults their spiritual experience will dictate whether or not they believe more than anything any person has ever affirmed to them (even dad)

PEACE

 

[ohhhla]

Does anyone know what atheism or agnostic mean?

Agnostic isn't mutually exclusive.

Just because you're an atheist doesn't mean you claim absolute certainity of god not exist.

That's a dishonest position.

Agnosticism / Gnosticism = knowledge

Atheism / Theism = questioning whether you believe or not

 

[Bodhi]

Anyway, the application of logic alone disproves the existence of an all powerful god, especially the Abrahamic version. There' s a lot of bad arguments in here but because I was late to this thread, I'm not going to waste my time in addressing them unless I get bored at work later on.

You are a fucking buddist, you are not even a real atheist meaning you are is just a thin slice away from being in a religion so you really are just a fucking deluded hypocrite.

I am in a religion. However, religion does not equal theism, so I'm many steps removed from believing in god. I have explained this to you before.

 

[zombie]

Anyway, the application of logic alone disproves the existence of an all powerful god, especially the Abrahamic version. There' s a lot of bad arguments in here but because I was late to this thread, I'm not going to waste my time in addressing them unless I get bored at work later on.

You are a fucking buddist, you are not even a real atheist meaning you are is just a thin slice away from being in a religion so you really are just a fucking deluded hypocrite.

I am in a religion. However, religion does not equal theism, so I'm many steps removed from believing in god. I have explained this to you before.

Once you are in a religion no matter if it's theistic or not you believe in something that does not have it's foundation if scientific reality in other words you still have an esoteric belief system. So get the fuck out of here, there is no difference between you and i except i base my understanding of reality on a different esoteric belief system than you do. You want to meditate your way to enlightenment and i want to pray my way into enlightenment.

 

[Bodhi]

Anyway, the application of logic alone disproves the existence of an all powerful god, especially the Abrahamic version. There' s a lot of bad arguments in here but because I was late to this thread, I'm not going to waste my time in addressing them unless I get bored at work later on.

You are a fucking buddist, you are not even a real atheist meaning you are is just a thin slice away from being in a religion so you really are just a fucking deluded hypocrite.

I am in a religion. However, religion does not equal theism, so I'm many steps removed from believing in god. I have explained this to you before.

Once you are in a religion no matter if it's theistic or not you believe in something that does not have it's foundation if scientific reality in other words you still have an esoteric belief system. So get the fuck out of here, there is no difference between you and i except i base my understanding of reality on a different esoteric belief system than you do. You want to meditate your way to enlightenment and i want to pray my way into enlightenment.

You're wrong there but that's not what I was talking about anyway. I was talking about the existence of God, and I said the belief in an all powerful god is illogical; it does not help humanity to gain any more knowledge or understanding than it had without belief in God. Theism is not beneficial.

 

[Bodhi]

No man is attractive but not everyman is ugly you stupid fuck.

So you walk around evaluating other men? n/h You called him ugly in a derogatory way, insinuating that he should be ashamed to be ugly and that being a man, he should naturally be attractive n/h

fuck you. fuck you're bullshit logic, and the misunderstandings you have about the abrahamic god.

Wow, what an intelligent response. Does God bless you to be so wise and knowledgeable?

 

[Bodhi]

Atheist fucking disgust me

why?

if you don't believe in god that is your choice.

Then let em live.

why the fuck are you writing books, articles and posting your trash all over the place.

Why not?

There exist no logical reason for atheist to do this other than trying their best to piss off believers.

To be fair, on the opposite side of the coin, there would be no reason for theists to write books or articles or post their opinions and beliefs wherever they feel.

Atheism is on the list of things that are destroying western society, which may be a good thing

Sweden, Vietnam, Norway, Denmark and Japan are the top 5 countries with the highest percentage of non theist inhabitants. Coincidentally, the crime rate is significantly lower in these places than areas with a higher percentage of believers.

atheism does nothing it inspires nothing it creates nothing. it seeks to strip man of religion but has nothing comparable to replace it.

It implies that man is responsible for man. Ethical conduct and humanism continue to exist without the presence of theistic belief systems.

belief in god commands man to do certain things. Belief in god changes everything, part of the reason why abortion, HEARTLESS murder, high levels of greed and other social ills are rampant in the west right now is because it have thrown away all the traditional morality that came with religion and now the western world is in the process of creating a new morality one that says I can make my own rules or right and wrong. Every generation seems to be getting worse in the past in the west evil was reserved for those who existed outside the group now evil seems to be given to every one outside the self.

Morality is seperable from god and/or religion and god is seperable from religion. The ethics of reciprocity is what many non theists adhere to, whether religious or not.

 

[Bodhi]

@CopperKing

If God is the creator of everything and is omnipotent, what place does creation, and more specifically man's will, have in the grand scheme of natural order, especially since man's destiny and actions are determined by God? If God is all good, why is there an abundance of evil in the world? And if God is all loving, all wise and omnipotent, why is he hesitant to put an end to the evil that exists?

Most theists say free will of man is the answer to these questions.

But then, why would God leave man and the rest of sentient nature to work out moral order and understanding on its own? The argument of free will is only put forth to remove God from his responsibilities. The claim that God is all good would require that god put every effort in promoting good and eradicating evil, including the act of removing any possibility that evil has of establishing itself. If God is omnipotent, omniscient and all good, then the problem of evil is a problem indeed, and the logical conclusion is that this god does not exist.

Also, theism uses cause and effect to reach the conclusion that an ultimate creator or cause of everything exists. Once this conclusion is reached, however, they abandon cause and effect. They say, "The universe is orderly and beautiful. Therefore it must have a creator". But then they say, "God is orderly and beautiful. He needs no creator." Why is this?? If order and beauty needs no intelligent designer, why add something we know nothing about and cannot observe in attempt to explain the existence of order and beauty that is observable to our senses? Not only does theism promote blind speculation and superstition but it only results in more unnecessary questions instead of giving answers.

 

[Bodhi]

Believes God doesn't exist but doesn't have proof.

Believes God is real and exist but doesn't have proof.

Same group of people no matter how you look at it.

@Cain1

No, it's more like this:

1. THIESM: Extraordinary claim without observable proof.

a.) Theists: Accept the extraordinary claim; proof is not a problem, faith is more important.

b.) Non Theists: Does not accept the extraordinary claim given the absense of observable proof.

Different groups of people.

 

[Bodhi]

Since forever, humans have always believed in a higher power, its only in recent times that so many people are becoming non-believers. So it isn't up to us to do or prove anything, believers have always been around and have always outnumbered non-believers from the size of the sun to the moon. You guys are the ones that are in the minority, you guys need to bring the definitive proof of the non-existence of God.

@Lot86

Just because the majority of the past, especially a past in which strange things were believed to be true, believed something to be fact, does not make it so.