Why DON'T You Listen To Old School Hip Hop?

[5th Letter]

Eye only fuck with certain artists from that era

Public enemy

Kane

Rakim

Slick rick

LL

Kool g rap

Krs one

The immortal God emcees

BUT

You can miss me with all that hippity hop don't stop bang bang boogie bullshit..that ish is trash..Everything from that era ain't golden and older heads need to stop acting like music from that era isn't above being criticized..We don't have to bump it because u think we should

Ain't nobody trying to listen to the rapping duke...have all that dust clogging up my ears

Don't blink!

Thats not even old school Hip Hop

You can't cross compare old school rap to golden age R&B and soul. There is not 1 rapper that had a classic era like Stevie (seen him live). It's hard to think any rapper could have the same impact on music as BB King (seen him live RIP). And that is the issue. What is thought of as "old school rap" as far as the 80s and some (not all of the early 90s) is the equivalent of listen to negro spirituals from the late 1800s.

Before Chuck Berry and Muddy Waters and Stevie and BB and Marvin there was nearly 80 to 100 years of slave and then post slave music. That music was the blueprint but most of it didn't age well and was in the infant stages of black music in America. No offense but i don't jam much 80s rap and some 90's rap because the shit did not age well.

At the same time you can catch me bumping Tribes 2nd and 3rd album stored in my cars memory bank. You can catch me also bumping it was written or illmatic as well from time to time. Same with other 90's golden age shit that did age well. But what old heads don't want to always admit is there is tons of old shit that doesn't age well. The other thing old hip hop heads can't admit is when it comes to the best R&B or rock legends musically they have tons more talent then the most talented rappers hands down. Stevie wonder live in concert at his old age is miles better than the Jay Z or Nas show i went to and i loved those rappers live shows. Hip hop is far from easy but there is a reason why other genres respect the gods of their era and in hip hop things change and old things don't always age well.

I don't understand why you guys are saying that old school Hip Hop didn't age well. It aged just as well as the R&B from that era. Grandmaster Flash, Sugarhill Gang (they only had 3 good songs), Kurtis Blow I'm talking the REAL old school. I'll give you a playlist;

1. Rappers Delight - Sugarhill Gang

2. Freedom - Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5

3. Showdown - Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5

4. High Powered Rap - Disco Dave and The Force of 5 MCs (The Crash Crew)

5. Rappin and Rockin The House - Funky 4+1

6. Rhymin and Rappin - Paulette and Tanya Winley

7. Christmas Rappin - Kurtis Blow

8. Zulu Nation Throwdown part 1 - Afrika Bambaattaa and the Cosmic Force

9. New Rap Language - Spoonie G feat The Treacherous 3

10. Feel The Heartbeat - The Treacherous 3

11. Jazzy Sensation - Afrika Bambaattaa and the Soul Sonic Force

12. 8th Wonder - Sugarhill Gang

13. Thats The Joint - Funky 4+1

14. Catch the Beat - T Ski Valley

15. The Breaks - Kurtis Blow

16. Rockin It - The Fearless Four

^^^^ Thats what I mean by "Old School Hip Hop". I'm not talking about Rakim, KRS, Illmatic or A Tribe Called Quest.

Old School refers to anything before 1986. And if you don't believe me there's a website called oldschoolhiphop.com that I'm a member of and that's their definition; anything before 1986.

So anything 1986-present is new school?

Its not old school.

If you ask Kurtis Blow Grandmaster Caz and Kool Moe Dee they'll tell you that old school is early 80s.

It really doesn't matter what teenagers consider old school.

So what is it then?

You're a moderator on a Hip Hop forum. Why are you asking me?

In my mind I always thought the entire 1980's was considered old school. Today you're telling me that the late 70's-1986 is old school and anything after isn't. So educate me, what is the period after 86-90 considered?

 

[5 Grand]

The Golden Era idiot

 

[TayGettem]

The Golden Era idiot

U just a old nigga who can't get over how old he is

 

[P. Town]

Eye only fuck with certain artists from that era

Public enemy

Kane

Rakim

Slick rick

LL

Kool g rap

Krs one

The immortal God emcees

BUT

You can miss me with all that hippity hop don't stop bang bang boogie bullshit..that ish is trash..Everything from that era ain't golden and older heads need to stop acting like music from that era isn't above being criticized..We don't have to bump it because u think we should

Ain't nobody trying to listen to the rapping duke...have all that dust clogging up my ears

Don't blink!

Thats not even old school Hip Hop

You can't cross compare old school rap to golden age R&B and soul. There is not 1 rapper that had a classic era like Stevie (seen him live). It's hard to think any rapper could have the same impact on music as BB King (seen him live RIP). And that is the issue. What is thought of as "old school rap" as far as the 80s and some (not all of the early 90s) is the equivalent of listen to negro spirituals from the late 1800s.

Before Chuck Berry and Muddy Waters and Stevie and BB and Marvin there was nearly 80 to 100 years of slave and then post slave music. That music was the blueprint but most of it didn't age well and was in the infant stages of black music in America. No offense but i don't jam much 80s rap and some 90's rap because the shit did not age well.

At the same time you can catch me bumping Tribes 2nd and 3rd album stored in my cars memory bank. You can catch me also bumping it was written or illmatic as well from time to time. Same with other 90's golden age shit that did age well. But what old heads don't want to always admit is there is tons of old shit that doesn't age well. The other thing old hip hop heads can't admit is when it comes to the best R&B or rock legends musically they have tons more talent then the most talented rappers hands down. Stevie wonder live in concert at his old age is miles better than the Jay Z or Nas show i went to and i loved those rappers live shows. Hip hop is far from easy but there is a reason why other genres respect the gods of their era and in hip hop things change and old things don't always age well.

I don't understand why you guys are saying that old school Hip Hop didn't age well. It aged just as well as the R&B from that era. Grandmaster Flash, Sugarhill Gang (they only had 3 good songs), Kurtis Blow I'm talking the REAL old school. I'll give you a playlist;

1. Rappers Delight - Sugarhill Gang

2. Freedom - Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5

3. Showdown - Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5

4. High Powered Rap - Disco Dave and The Force of 5 MCs (The Crash Crew)

5. Rappin and Rockin The House - Funky 4+1

6. Rhymin and Rappin - Paulette and Tanya Winley

7. Christmas Rappin - Kurtis Blow

8. Zulu Nation Throwdown part 1 - Afrika Bambaattaa and the Cosmic Force

9. New Rap Language - Spoonie G feat The Treacherous 3

10. Feel The Heartbeat - The Treacherous 3

11. Jazzy Sensation - Afrika Bambaattaa and the Soul Sonic Force

12. 8th Wonder - Sugarhill Gang

13. Thats The Joint - Funky 4+1

14. Catch the Beat - T Ski Valley

15. The Breaks - Kurtis Blow

16. Rockin It - The Fearless Four

^^^^ Thats what I mean by "Old School Hip Hop". I'm not talking about Rakim, KRS, Illmatic or A Tribe Called Quest.

Old School refers to anything before 1986. And if you don't believe me there's a website called oldschoolhiphop.com that I'm a member of and that's their definition; anything before 1986.

So anything 1986-present is new school?

Its not old school.

If you ask Kurtis Blow Grandmaster Caz and Kool Moe Dee they'll tell you that old school is early 80s.

It really doesn't matter what teenagers consider old school.

Bruh a freshman in high school right now was born in like 2002. Nigga Bling Bling is old school to them, so why would anything from the 80s not be considered old school?

I'll give you an analogy:

The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin and Jimi Hendrix are considered "classic rock".

Nirvana, Pearl Jam and The Red Hot Chilli Peppers may have made classic music, but its not classic rock.

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

Depends on who it was. I listen to Run DMC, Rakim, LL, Kane, Public Enemy, Kool G Rap and rappers of that same ilk.

A lot of the other rappers I hate their delivery. It's just that simple. That "bom da da da bom da bom da dame digga" flow I can't get with that.

Or "yesterday I was down at the park/shoulda went home but I went to the barbershop HUH! " that's just not where it's at for me.

 

[5 Grand]

Depends on who it was. I listen to Run DMC, Rakim, LL, Kane, Public Enemy, Kool G Rap and rappers of that same ilk.

A lot of the other rappers I hate their delivery. It's just that simple. That "bom da da da bom da bom da dame digga" flow I can't get with that.

Or "yesterday I was down at the park/shoulda went home but I went to the barbershop HUH! " that's just not where it's at for me.

So you'd rather listen to somebody cursing talking about killing people and selling crack?

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

Eye only fuck with certain artists from that era

Public enemy

Kane

Rakim

Slick rick

LL

Kool g rap

Krs one

The immortal God emcees

BUT

You can miss me with all that hippity hop don't stop bang bang boogie bullshit..that ish is trash..Everything from that era ain't golden and older heads need to stop acting like music from that era isn't above being criticized..We don't have to bump it because u think we should

Ain't nobody trying to listen to the rapping duke...have all that dust clogging up my ears

Don't blink!

Thats not even old school Hip Hop

You can't cross compare old school rap to golden age R&B and soul. There is not 1 rapper that had a classic era like Stevie (seen him live). It's hard to think any rapper could have the same impact on music as BB King (seen him live RIP). And that is the issue. What is thought of as "old school rap" as far as the 80s and some (not all of the early 90s) is the equivalent of listen to negro spirituals from the late 1800s.

Before Chuck Berry and Muddy Waters and Stevie and BB and Marvin there was nearly 80 to 100 years of slave and then post slave music. That music was the blueprint but most of it didn't age well and was in the infant stages of black music in America. No offense but i don't jam much 80s rap and some 90's rap because the shit did not age well.

At the same time you can catch me bumping Tribes 2nd and 3rd album stored in my cars memory bank. You can catch me also bumping it was written or illmatic as well from time to time. Same with other 90's golden age shit that did age well. But what old heads don't want to always admit is there is tons of old shit that doesn't age well. The other thing old hip hop heads can't admit is when it comes to the best R&B or rock legends musically they have tons more talent then the most talented rappers hands down. Stevie wonder live in concert at his old age is miles better than the Jay Z or Nas show i went to and i loved those rappers live shows. Hip hop is far from easy but there is a reason why other genres respect the gods of their era and in hip hop things change and old things don't always age well.

I don't understand why you guys are saying that old school Hip Hop didn't age well. It aged just as well as the R&B from that era. Grandmaster Flash, Sugarhill Gang (they only had 3 good songs), Kurtis Blow I'm talking the REAL old school. I'll give you a playlist;

1. Rappers Delight - Sugarhill Gang

2. Freedom - Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5

3. Showdown - Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5

4. High Powered Rap - Disco Dave and The Force of 5 MCs (The Crash Crew)

5. Rappin and Rockin The House - Funky 4+1

6. Rhymin and Rappin - Paulette and Tanya Winley

7. Christmas Rappin - Kurtis Blow

8. Zulu Nation Throwdown part 1 - Afrika Bambaattaa and the Cosmic Force

9. New Rap Language - Spoonie G feat The Treacherous 3

10. Feel The Heartbeat - The Treacherous 3

11. Jazzy Sensation - Afrika Bambaattaa and the Soul Sonic Force

12. 8th Wonder - Sugarhill Gang

13. Thats The Joint - Funky 4+1

14. Catch the Beat - T Ski Valley

15. The Breaks - Kurtis Blow

16. Rockin It - The Fearless Four

^^^^ Thats what I mean by "Old School Hip Hop". I'm not talking about Rakim, KRS, Illmatic or A Tribe Called Quest.

Old School refers to anything before 1986. And if you don't believe me there's a website called oldschoolhiphop.com that I'm a member of and that's their definition; anything before 1986.

So anything 1986-present is new school?

Its not old school.

If you ask Kurtis Blow Grandmaster Caz and Kool Moe Dee they'll tell you that old school is early 80s.

It really doesn't matter what teenagers consider old school.

Bruh a freshman in high school right now was born in like 2002. Nigga Bling Bling is old school to them, so why would anything from the 80s not be considered old school?

I'll give you an analogy:

The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin and Jimi Hendrix are considered "classic rock".

Nirvana, Pearl Jam and The Red Hot Chilli Peppers may have made classic music, but its not classic rock.

That's a horrible analogy because the gap is so wide. Beatles is early 60s, RHCP came out in the early 80s and Nirvana is basically early 90s. but maybe you're right in a sense.

The talent disparity from Rappers Delight to say a Rakim is just that wide even though it's only a few years.

 

[5 Grand]

That's a horrible analogy because the gap is so wide. Beatles is early 60s, RHCP came out in the early 80s and Nirvana is basically early 90s. but maybe you're right in a sense.

The talent disparity from Rappers Delight to say a Rakim is just that wide even though it's only a few years.

You should listen to Rappers Delight again.

Besides the opening line of, "Hip Hop Hibby To The Hibby..." those lyrics are a lot more advanced than you're giving them credit.

 

[achewon87]

Eye only fuck with certain artists from that era

Public enemy

Kane

Rakim

Slick rick

LL

Kool g rap

Krs one

The immortal God emcees

BUT

You can miss me with all that hippity hop don't stop bang bang boogie bullshit..that ish is trash..Everything from that era ain't golden and older heads need to stop acting like music from that era isn't above being criticized..We don't have to bump it because u think we should

Ain't nobody trying to listen to the rapping duke...have all that dust clogging up my ears

Don't blink!

Thats not even old school Hip Hop

You can't cross compare old school rap to golden age R&B and soul. There is not 1 rapper that had a classic era like Stevie (seen him live). It's hard to think any rapper could have the same impact on music as BB King (seen him live RIP). And that is the issue. What is thought of as "old school rap" as far as the 80s and some (not all of the early 90s) is the equivalent of listen to negro spirituals from the late 1800s.

Before Chuck Berry and Muddy Waters and Stevie and BB and Marvin there was nearly 80 to 100 years of slave and then post slave music. That music was the blueprint but most of it didn't age well and was in the infant stages of black music in America. No offense but i don't jam much 80s rap and some 90's rap because the shit did not age well.

At the same time you can catch me bumping Tribes 2nd and 3rd album stored in my cars memory bank. You can catch me also bumping it was written or illmatic as well from time to time. Same with other 90's golden age shit that did age well. But what old heads don't want to always admit is there is tons of old shit that doesn't age well. The other thing old hip hop heads can't admit is when it comes to the best R&B or rock legends musically they have tons more talent then the most talented rappers hands down. Stevie wonder live in concert at his old age is miles better than the Jay Z or Nas show i went to and i loved those rappers live shows. Hip hop is far from easy but there is a reason why other genres respect the gods of their era and in hip hop things change and old things don't always age well.

I don't understand why you guys are saying that old school Hip Hop didn't age well. It aged just as well as the R&B from that era. Grandmaster Flash, Sugarhill Gang (they only had 3 good songs), Kurtis Blow I'm talking the REAL old school. I'll give you a playlist;

1. Rappers Delight - Sugarhill Gang

2. Freedom - Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5

3. Showdown - Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5

4. High Powered Rap - Disco Dave and The Force of 5 MCs (The Crash Crew)

5. Rappin and Rockin The House - Funky 4+1

6. Rhymin and Rappin - Paulette and Tanya Winley

7. Christmas Rappin - Kurtis Blow

8. Zulu Nation Throwdown part 1 - Afrika Bambaattaa and the Cosmic Force

9. New Rap Language - Spoonie G feat The Treacherous 3

10. Feel The Heartbeat - The Treacherous 3

11. Jazzy Sensation - Afrika Bambaattaa and the Soul Sonic Force

12. 8th Wonder - Sugarhill Gang

13. Thats The Joint - Funky 4+1

14. Catch the Beat - T Ski Valley

15. The Breaks - Kurtis Blow

16. Rockin It - The Fearless Four

^^^^ Thats what I mean by "Old School Hip Hop". I'm not talking about Rakim, KRS, Illmatic or A Tribe Called Quest.

Old School refers to anything before 1986. And if you don't believe me there's a website called oldschoolhiphop.com that I'm a member of and that's their definition; anything before 1986.

So anything 1986-present is new school?

Its not old school.

If you ask Kurtis Blow Grandmaster Caz and Kool Moe Dee they'll tell you that old school is early 80s.

It really doesn't matter what teenagers consider old school.

Bruh a freshman in high school right now was born in like 2002. Nigga Bling Bling is old school to them, so why would anything from the 80s not be considered old school?

I'll give you an analogy:

The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin and Jimi Hendrix are considered "classic rock".

Nirvana, Pearl Jam and The Red Hot Chilli Peppers may have made classic music, but its not classic rock.

That's a horrible analogy because the gap is so wide. Beatles is early 60s, RHCP came out in the early 80s and Nirvana is basically early 90s. but maybe you're right in a sense.

The talent disparity from Rappers Delight to say a Rakim is just that wide even though it's only a few years.

It was 7 yrs; that's closer to a decade than a few yrs...

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

Depends on who it was. I listen to Run DMC, Rakim, LL, Kane, Public Enemy, Kool G Rap and rappers of that same ilk.

A lot of the other rappers I hate their delivery. It's just that simple. That "bom da da da bom da bom da dame digga" flow I can't get with that.

Or "yesterday I was down at the park/shoulda went home but I went to the barbershop HUH! " that's just not where it's at for me.

So you'd rather listen to somebody cursing talking about killing people and selling crack?

 

[EyeofAsaru]

Depends on who it was. I listen to Run DMC, Rakim, LL, Kane, Public Enemy, Kool G Rap and rappers of that same ilk.

A lot of the other rappers I hate their delivery. It's just that simple. That "bom da da da bom da bom da dame digga" flow I can't get with that.

Or "yesterday I was down at the park/shoulda went home but I went to the barbershop HUH! " that's just not where it's at for me.

So you'd rather listen to somebody cursing talking about killing people and selling crack?

This statement sounds like something a old Nigga would say

He's talking about FLOWS dude...He's saying he doesn't like the old school FLOWS and prefers the FLOWS of the later eras

Get it now?

Btw ..nobody sells crack anymore ,b..you need to evolve with the times

 

[5 Grand]

Depends on who it was. I listen to Run DMC, Rakim, LL, Kane, Public Enemy, Kool G Rap and rappers of that same ilk.

A lot of the other rappers I hate their delivery. It's just that simple. That "bom da da da bom da bom da dame digga" flow I can't get with that.

Or "yesterday I was down at the park/shoulda went home but I went to the barbershop HUH! " that's just not where it's at for me.

So you'd rather listen to somebody cursing talking about killing people and selling crack?

This statement sounds like something a old Nigga would say

He's talking about FLOWS dude...He's saying he doesn't like the old school FLOWS and prefers the FLOWS of the later eras

Get it now?

Btw ..nobody sells crack anymore ,b..you need to evolve with the times

Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard

 

[bck145]

5 Grand is not talking about ppl like Rakim or Big daddy Kane...he's going earlier than that

He's talking about hip hop in its infancy which for the most part was corny

 

[5 Grand]

5 Grand is not talking about ppl like Rakim or Big daddy Kane...he's going earlier than that

He's talking about hip hop in its infancy which for the most part was corny

So this is corny?

 

[MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14]

Eye only fuck with certain artists from that era

Public enemy

Kane

Rakim

Slick rick

LL

Kool g rap

Krs one

The immortal God emcees

BUT

You can miss me with all that hippity hop don't stop bang bang boogie bullshit..that ish is trash..Everything from that era ain't golden and older heads need to stop acting like music from that era isn't above being criticized..We don't have to bump it because u think we should

Ain't nobody trying to listen to the rapping duke...have all that dust clogging up my ears

Don't blink!

Thats not even old school Hip Hop

You can't cross compare old school rap to golden age R&B and soul. There is not 1 rapper that had a classic era like Stevie (seen him live). It's hard to think any rapper could have the same impact on music as BB King (seen him live RIP). And that is the issue. What is thought of as "old school rap" as far as the 80s and some (not all of the early 90s) is the equivalent of listen to negro spirituals from the late 1800s.

Before Chuck Berry and Muddy Waters and Stevie and BB and Marvin there was nearly 80 to 100 years of slave and then post slave music. That music was the blueprint but most of it didn't age well and was in the infant stages of black music in America. No offense but i don't jam much 80s rap and some 90's rap because the shit did not age well.

At the same time you can catch me bumping Tribes 2nd and 3rd album stored in my cars memory bank. You can catch me also bumping it was written or illmatic as well from time to time. Same with other 90's golden age shit that did age well. But what old heads don't want to always admit is there is tons of old shit that doesn't age well. The other thing old hip hop heads can't admit is when it comes to the best R&B or rock legends musically they have tons more talent then the most talented rappers hands down. Stevie wonder live in concert at his old age is miles better than the Jay Z or Nas show i went to and i loved those rappers live shows. Hip hop is far from easy but there is a reason why other genres respect the gods of their era and in hip hop things change and old things don't always age well.

I don't understand why you guys are saying that old school Hip Hop didn't age well. It aged just as well as the R&B from that era. Grandmaster Flash, Sugarhill Gang (they only had 3 good songs), Kurtis Blow I'm talking the REAL old school. I'll give you a playlist;

1. Rappers Delight - Sugarhill Gang

2. Freedom - Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5

3. Showdown - Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5

4. High Powered Rap - Disco Dave and The Force of 5 MCs (The Crash Crew)

5. Rappin and Rockin The House - Funky 4+1

6. Rhymin and Rappin - Paulette and Tanya Winley

7. Christmas Rappin - Kurtis Blow

8. Zulu Nation Throwdown part 1 - Afrika Bambaattaa and the Cosmic Force

9. New Rap Language - Spoonie G feat The Treacherous 3

10. Feel The Heartbeat - The Treacherous 3

11. Jazzy Sensation - Afrika Bambaattaa and the Soul Sonic Force

12. 8th Wonder - Sugarhill Gang

13. Thats The Joint - Funky 4+1

14. Catch the Beat - T Ski Valley

15. The Breaks - Kurtis Blow

16. Rockin It - The Fearless Four

^^^^ Thats what I mean by "Old School Hip Hop". I'm not talking about Rakim, KRS, Illmatic or A Tribe Called Quest.

Old School refers to anything before 1986. And if you don't believe me there's a website called oldschoolhiphop.com that I'm a member of and that's their definition; anything before 1986.

some of those joints are catchy but they still don't age well. in additional to that much of it is focused on the elementary foundations of rhyming and don't have the powerful messages of Tribe and NWA in the early 90s. That's why old school rap will never compare to old school R&B. That shit had soul and powerful messages. Whats Going on and Songs In The Key of life are top albums of all time. that shit 1986 and previous is the foundation of rap and i respect it. But the 90s was the golden age. I appreciate the legends to started this rap shit. But fuck listening to them lmao.

 

[bck145]

5 Grand is not talking about ppl like Rakim or Big daddy Kane...he's going earlier than that

He's talking about hip hop in its infancy which for the most part was corny

So this is corny?

5 Grand is not talking about ppl like Rakim or Big daddy Kane...he's going earlier than that

He's talking about hip hop in its infancy which for the most part was corny

So this is corny?

Yes thank you for proving my point

 

[Karl.]

I voted them off but I also listen to a lot of old school rap. Voting them off wasn't a shot at their legacy. I just listen to them the least out of the other groups. Although I think Outkast is top 3 most overrated of all time.

 

[BenjaminE]

In all honesty, 5grand, it seems like the closer it gets to Christmas, the more condescending your threads get, the more your polls backfire, the longer your titangraphs are... perhaps your 5 grand kids haven't sent their senile, transient grandfather a card or put a 12" in his stocking... so I wanna wish you a happy holiday...

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

I just came here to say Planet Rock is timeless.. heard it yesterday and it just works then and now

You didn't want to go to planet rock with bambatta

 

[CashmoneyDux]

90s baby so nwa and the likes is old to me.

Fuck I look like bumping melly Mel in the whip? Foh