Who is the best NBA Player to never win a ring?

[D. Morgan]

Imo tmac

I was about to say, he's better than majority of the options

I would agree if scoring was the only thing that mattered

faulty logic

Mac came in the league as a defender

Would defend Dirk in the post season, was a excellent passer and playmaker

Yall niggas going stop being weirdos

Imo tmac

I was about to say, he's better than majority of the options

I would agree if scoring was the only thing that mattered

Stop it.

TMac in his prime was giving you 25, 7 and 5 to go with a steal and damn near a block a game.

Back injuries fucked him up.

I left work and didn't get a chance to edit my post.

You both are right with the bold which is why I wanted to edit my post but only here during my work hours.

The underlined I don't agree with though

 

[5 Grand]

I'm going with George Gervin. he scored 63 points in a game.

 

[KeepOnPushing]

That picture of Russell always cracks me the fuck up.

 

[KeepOnPushing]

Gave the edge with Malone over Barkley.

 

[TheGOAT]

That picture of Russell always cracks me the fuck up.

11 rings

Nobody touchin that

 

[TheGOAT]

Gave the edge with Malone over Barkley.

I compared their stats last night.

Almost identical with Malone having a slight edge on scoring & Charles with edge on rebounds.

Malone played more years too.

But i would have to think if Charles had Stockton with him his career stats coulda been even better

 

[KeepOnPushing]

If's are so hard to do though , you can do that with anything....it's just always best to call things what they are, both were two of the best PF's ever but i just feel like Malone edges him out as a player but barely , that's the only reason y i voted for him. it's damn near a toss up.

 

[blu197]

Nash may be the best player to never play in the NBA Finals tho..

 

[mikelewis2]

Being from Philadelphia, I will always say Allen Iverson is the best to never win it. No reason in the world a guy with his abilities only reached the Finals once.

 

[Mister B.]

The stats say Malone, but I'm gonna go with Chuck. Malone had three shots to win one.

 

[iron man1]

reggie 8 points in 9 seconds....

The Knicks ain't been respectable since he left.

 

[9TRAY]

Being from Philadelphia, I will always say Allen Iverson is the best to never win it. No reason in the world a guy with his abilities only reached the Finals once.

 

[luke1733]

Nobody seen Elgin Baylor so I can't comment on him or George Gervin (seen Iceman's highlights); other than that it was a toss up between Barkley and Iverson and the edge is to Iverson b/c Barkley had a great team with Houston and he had a good team with the 76ers and never won. Iverson was BY HIS SELF.

I saw Karl Malone and he was great but not a team leader and didn't play D, truthfully he and Reggie Miller were the same quality of player even though they obviously played different positions.

Nash wasn't ever getting a ring John Stockton either. Chris Paul was better than both those guys and he ain't getting no ring either

 

[O.G.]

I saw Karl Malone and he was great but not a team leader and didn't play D,

He made first team all-defense 3 times and second team once.

 

[sportznutt106]

Beard King, Karl Malone

 

[DOPEdweebz]

Barkley >> Malone and Iverson

Malone got the numbers but Stockton anchored that ship or at least deserves half the credit.

Iverson is just the most likable for alot of reasons.

But Barkley was more complete and amazing for his size.

 

[Beta]

Malone the same as Reggie Miller?

 

[Mr.LV]

reggie 8 points in 9 seconds....

I was just looking at Reggie Miller vs New York on ESPN 30 for 30 that shit was soul snatching for us New Yorkers

 

[S2J]

Results are kinda embarrassing how tilted they are toward modern players .

AI and Barkley (2 fan favorites) are not better all time players than Elgin Baylor

 

[luke1733]

I saw Karl Malone and he was great but not a team leader and didn't play D,

He made first team all-defense 3 times and second team once.

DAmn O.G. you been at me since September of last year on this same topic when you wrote "wrong thread". I saw this when I went back to repost the reason why Iverson is BETTER than Barkley and you wrote "wrong thread" when I was talking about players with no rings.

Again, the numbers don't lie. Outside of rebounds Iverson had more an effect on the game before PER was invented, which I believe in PER somewhat and some of it is misleading when a franchise player is called on and pressured by his organization and team to take more risks than they would allow a regular player, but anyway here's the numbers on a conversation already had. Sidenote on the Malone issue: I don't care what awards Malone got on defense, that dude was not a defensive juggernaut threat when you looked at him play. I saw the dude, fuck the award!

Old conversation:

Iverson vs Barkley (I know they play diff't positions)

Just to show how great Iverson was and which class he belongs to. He is in the class of people you would put above a Charles Barkley.

Just had another convo about Iverson. Said he was better than Barkley and folks erupted, saying he wasn't.

Can't put AI above Jordan, Kobe, Magic and some others but he damn sure was better than Dominique Wilkins, Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, Mookie Blaylock, Stephen Curry, Tony Parker .

Todd MacCulloch was Iverson's second best player on the team he took to the finals(I would've said Eric Snow, but stats say this dude). That says everything.

Charles 1984-1996

Iverson 1996-2008

Iverson beats Charles in Points Per game for each year of his career (excluding his last return to 76ers)

Iverson beats Charles in Assists Per game each year of his career

Charles kills Iverson (and most in NBA) in rebounds, but Iverson does pretty well for a shooting guard of 6’0 for rebounds.

Iverson played more minutes per season than Charles

Iverson shot better free throws than Charles (Charles was known for being a good free throw shooter)

Iverson’s 3pt percentage is better than Charles

Charles shot a better FG% through his career

Iverson beat Charles in steals per game for career

Iverson committed less fouls throughout career than Charles

Turnovers were roughly the same, again considering Iverson handled the ball 10x as much as Charles this I will say Iverson in essence committed fewer turnovers.

*Iverson was rated the fifth-greatest NBA shooting guard of all time by ESPN in 2008.

*Iverson won Big East Defensive Player of the Year awards both years he played with Georgetown.

*Iverson is also 12th on the list of ALL TIME STEAL Leaders. As Kevin Durant (also pretty good) recently said about him being best pound for pound.