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usmarin3;9145882 said:I just think people need to define the criteria of what makes someone the GOAT,because they seem to make exceptions for MJ. smh
1. If it's titles then it's Russell or some of them old Celtic niggas
2. If it's pure stats or dominance then it's Kareem or Wilt
3. If it's individual skillset then it's probably someone like Magic, Lebron, Oscar
4. Is it all time great moments?
What is the criteria because Jordan ain't dominant in none of them. Plus if were being honest Kareem is the most accomplished player ever.
Taylor Swift is one of the best Selling recording artists of ALL TIME and has a closet full of Grammys...
What does that tell you.
The answer is simple ... It's the Eye Test ... Backed up with accomplishments.
That really ends the discussion for me.
MJ is the GOAT, Period.
En-Fuego22;9147319 said:usmarin3;9145882 said:I just think people need to define the criteria of what makes someone the GOAT, because they seem to make exceptions for MJ. smh
1. If it's titles then it's Russell or some of them old Celtic niggas
2. If it's pure stats or dominance then it's Kareem or Wilt
3. If it's individual skillset then it's probably someone like Magic, Lebron, Oscar
4. Is it all time great moments?
What is the criteria because Jordan ain't dominant in none of them. Plus if were being honest Kareem is the most accomplished player ever.
Nigga how tf does lbj magic and Oscar has a better skill set?
Point's, rebounds, assists.
Jordan getting rebounds and assists like that?
Peace_79;9147475 said:usmarin3;9145882 said:I just think people need to define the criteria of what makes someone the GOAT,because they seem to make exceptions for MJ. smh
1. If it's titles then it's Russell or some of them old Celtic niggas
2. If it's pure stats or dominance then it's Kareem or Wilt
3. If it's individual skillset then it's probably someone like Magic, Lebron, Oscar
4. Is it all time great moments?
What is the criteria because Jordan ain't dominant in none of them. Plus if were being honest Kareem is the most accomplished player ever.
Taylor Swift is one of the best Selling recording artists of ALL TIME and has a closet full of Grammys...
What does that tell you.
The answer is simple ... It's the Eye Test ... Backed up with accomplishments.
That really ends the discussion for me.
MJ is the GOAT, Period.
How is the eye test when none of you niggas lived through the Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Big O,etc play.
Russell and Kareem have similar accomplishments to Jordan
Kareem has 6 regular season mvps and 5 rings
Russell has 5 mvps and 11 titles
usmarin3;9148788 said:En-Fuego22;9147319 said:usmarin3;9145882 said:I just think people need to define the criteria of what makes someone the GOAT, because they seem to make exceptions for MJ. smh
1. If it's titles then it's Russell or some of them old Celtic niggas
2. If it's pure stats or dominance then it's Kareem or Wilt
3. If it's individual skillset then it's probably someone like Magic, Lebron, Oscar
4. Is it all time great moments?
What is the criteria because Jordan ain't dominant in none of them. Plus if were being honest Kareem is the most accomplished player ever.
Nigga how tf does lbj magic and Oscar has a better skill set?
Point's, rebounds, assists.
Jordan getting rebounds and assists like that?
He had season averaging 8 rebounds and 8 assists and lead NBA in triple doubles while averaging 32.5 points a game.
This has been beat to death.
Like I've said, there's only one or two people who could truly be considered GOAT if not your God....Russell and Kareem.
We've done the Kareem vs. Mike thing to death, and in the end, it always comes down to "Mike's the best that I've seen play."
Like I've said, there's only one or two people who could truly be considered GOAT if not your God....Russell and Kareem.
We've done the Kareem vs. Mike thing to death, and in the end, it always comes down to "Mike's the best that I've seen play."
nujerz84;9148860 said:usmarin3;9148788 said:En-Fuego22;9147319 said:usmarin3;9145882 said:I just think people need to define the criteria of what makes someone the GOAT, because they seem to make exceptions for MJ. smh
1. If it's titles then it's Russell or some of them old Celtic niggas
2. If it's pure stats or dominance then it's Kareem or Wilt
3. If it's individual skillset then it's probably someone like Magic, Lebron, Oscar
4. Is it all time great moments?
What is the criteria because Jordan ain't dominant in none of them. Plus if were being honest Kareem is the most accomplished player ever.
Nigga how tf does lbj magic and Oscar has a better skill set?
Point's, rebounds, assists.
Jordan getting rebounds and assists like that?
He had season averaging 8 rebounds and 8 assists and lead NBA in triple doubles while averaging 32.5 points a game.
Jordan only had 1 season where he ever had more than 7 rebounds or 7 assist.
Dudes like Big O, Magic, and Lebron do that on a nightly basis.
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playmaker88
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Usmarine saying dumb shit must be a day that ends in Y
usmarin3;9148806 said:Peace_79;9147475 said:usmarin3;9145882 said:I just think people need to define the criteria of what makes someone the GOAT,because they seem to make exceptions for MJ. smh
1. If it's titles then it's Russell or some of them old Celtic niggas
2. If it's pure stats or dominance then it's Kareem or Wilt
3. If it's individual skillset then it's probably someone like Magic, Lebron, Oscar
4. Is it all time great moments?
What is the criteria because Jordan ain't dominant in none of them. Plus if were being honest Kareem is the most accomplished player ever.
Taylor Swift is one of the best Selling recording artists of ALL TIME and has a closet full of Grammys...
What does that tell you.
The answer is simple ... It's the Eye Test ... Backed up with accomplishments.
That really ends the discussion for me.
MJ is the GOAT, Period.
How is the eye test when none of you niggas lived through the Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Big O,etc play.
Russell and Kareem have similar accomplishments to Jordan
Kareem has 6 regular season mvps and 5 rings
Russell has 5 mvps and 11 titles
I've seen tape and I know the context.
Jordan's competition dwarfs Russel and the Oscars.
I'm not saying it isn't close with Kareem - you have an argument... But you asked for criteria ...
And I gave you the Eye Test. I have never seen anyone compare to Jordan on the court.
playmaker88;9149030 said:Usmarine saying dumb shit must be a day that ends in Y
And a nigga pressed ether lol ..Oscar magic and lbj are better scoresthen Jordan lol
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usmarin3;9145882 said:I just think people need to define the criteria of what makes someone the GOAT, because they seem to make exceptions for MJ. smh
1. If it's titles then it's Russell or some of them old Celtic niggas
2. If it's pure stats or dominance then it's Kareem or Wilt
3. If it's individual skillset then it's probably someone like Magic, Lebron, Oscar
4. Is it all time great moments?
What is the criteria because Jordan ain't dominant in none of them. Plus if were being honest Kareem is the most accomplished player ever.
How was MJ not dominant? And people overate the hell out of Kareem's stats. What per game stats does he dominate? None. He has the most points ever, but that has a lot to do with the fact that he played and extremely long time.
Peace_79;9149153 said:usmarin3;9148806 said:Peace_79;9147475 said:usmarin3;9145882 said:I just think people need to define the criteria of what makes someone the GOAT,because they seem to make exceptions for MJ. smh
1. If it's titles then it's Russell or some of them old Celtic niggas
2. If it's pure stats or dominance then it's Kareem or Wilt
3. If it's individual skillset then it's probably someone like Magic, Lebron, Oscar
4. Is it all time great moments?
What is the criteria because Jordan ain't dominant in none of them. Plus if were being honest Kareem is the most accomplished player ever.
Taylor Swift is one of the best Selling recording artists of ALL TIME and has a closet full of Grammys...
What does that tell you.
The answer is simple ... It's the Eye Test ... Backed up with accomplishments.
That really ends the discussion for me.
MJ is the GOAT, Period.
How is the eye test when none of you niggas lived through the Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Big O,etc play.
Russell and Kareem have similar accomplishments to Jordan
Kareem has 6 regular season mvps and 5 rings
Russell has 5 mvps and 11 titles
I've seen tape and I know the context.
Jordan's competition dwarfs Russel and the Oscars.
I'm not saying it isn't close with Kareem - you have an argument... But you asked for criteria ...
And I gave you the Eye Test. I have never seen anyone compare to Jordan on the court.
Only problem with the eye test argument is when it comes to Jordan people only focus on his success in the 90s. People talk about how Jordan would never lose under certain circumstances as if he went undefeated in every playoff series he played in. I've heard people say shit like "Jordan would drop 60 on an average night with no problem"... fans have made Jordan into this mythical character that never missed a clutch shot, never lost and won every single year he played when that's not true he had his struggles as a player too . To Alot of people though Jordan's career begins with that first ring and they ignore the years before that he was getting his ass whooped in the playoffs because he didn't want to pass the ball
^ That only for those who know nothing about basketball . Jordan was already the best Player in NBA by his third season.
The Eye Test argument again helps MJ, Jordan numbers across the board in the 80's destroys what he did in the 90's. The offensive and defensive displays he did in the 80's were insane.
The Eye Test argument again helps MJ, Jordan numbers across the board in the 80's destroys what he did in the 90's. The offensive and defensive displays he did in the 80's were insane.
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How in 2016 are you talking about lack of quality teams in the league during jordans prime? There are maybe 4 goddamn teams with any shot at being in the finals
We just had a repeat of the finals from the year prior
Jordans a ball hog? And leflop isnt? Westbrook isnt?
Get this shit outta here
We just had a repeat of the finals from the year prior
Jordans a ball hog? And leflop isnt? Westbrook isnt?
Get this shit outta here
nujerz84;9152897 said:^ That only for those who know nothing about basketball . Jordan was already the best Player in NBA by his third season.
The Eye Test argument again helps MJ, Jordan numbers across the board in the 80's destroys what he did in the 90's. The offensive and defensive displays he did in the 80's were insane.
Insane or were players allowed to get away with more? Remember the Jordan Rules the Pistons used, and Jordan openly whines about in the media which people also forget, was nothing more than trying to fuck him up as opposed to actually playing defense
Black_Thunder;9153496 said:How in 2016 are you talking about lack of quality teams in the league during jordans prime? There are maybe 4 goddamn teams with any shot at being in the finals
We just had a repeat of the finals from the year prior
Jordans a ball hog? And leflop isnt? Westbrook isnt?
Get this shit outta here
The lack of quality teams thing is dumb because you look any era and the same teams are in the Finals. NBA and parity don't really line up
blackrain;9153605 said:nujerz84;9152897 said:^ That only for those who know nothing about basketball . Jordan was already the best Player in NBA by his third season.
The Eye Test argument again helps MJ, Jordan numbers across the board in the 80's destroys what he did in the 90's. The offensive and defensive displays he did in the 80's were insane.
Insane or were players allowed to get away with more? Remember the Jordan Rules the Pistons used, and Jordan openly whines about in the media which people also forget, was nothing more than trying to fuck him up as opposed to actually playing defense
I see you one them contrarian Ill Community dumb asses that just like to argue stupid points that have nothing to do with topic at hand.
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