who better overall Big Pun or Biggie

[Bawse D.Lox]

Biggie... but Puns is better lyrically

In The Commision, you ask for permission to hit 'em

He don't like me, hit him while wifey was with him

You heard of us, the murderous, most shady

Been on the low lately, the feds hate me

The son of Satan, they say my killing's too blatant

You hesitatin, I'm in your mama crib waitin

Duct tapin,

your fam', destiny

Lays in my hands, gat lays in my waist

Francis, M to the iz-H

phenominal

Gun rest under your vest by the abdominal

Rhyme a few bars, so I can buy a few cars

And I kick a few flows so I can pimp a few hoes

Excellence is my presence, never tense

Never hesi-tant, leave a nigga bent,

real quick

Real sick,

raw nights, I perform like Mike

Anyone -- Tyson, Jordan, Jackson

Action, pack guns,

ridiculous

And I'm, quick to bust, if my ends you touch

Kids or girl you touch, in this world I clutch

Two auto-matoes, used to call me fatso

Now you call me Castro, my rap flows

Militant, y'all faggots ain't killin shit

Ooops Cristal keep spillin shit;



you overdid it homes

You in the danger zone, you shouldn't be alone

Hold hands and say it like me

The most shady, Frankie baby,

fantastic

Graphic, tryin to make dough, like Jurassic

Park did

quick to spark kids who start shit

See me, only me

The Underboss of this Holocaust

Truly yours, Frank White

 

[hide321]

Who has more albums and tracks you'd rather hear? If you're being honest and a hip-hop fan, I don't understand how anyone could say Pun over Biggie. I'm a big fan of both, but there are many more songs/features by Biggie that I'd rather listen to than Pun's. For Pun, I listen to Capital Punishment (album), Off the books, and couple other features. For Biggie, there are 2 full albums and a whole slew of features. Honestly, is anyone really listening to Yeah Baby (Pun's weakest album) over Life After Death (Biggie's weakest, but still really tight)?

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

Who has more albums and tracks you'd rather hear? If you're being honest and a hip-hop fan, I don't understand how anyone could say Pun over Biggie. I'm a big fan of both, but there are many more songs/features by Biggie that I'd rather listen to than Pun's. For Pun, I listen to Capital Punishment (album), Off the books, and couple other features. For Biggie, there are 2 full albums and a whole slew of features. Honestly, is anyone really listening to Yeah Baby (Pun's weakest album) over Life After Death (Biggie's weakest, but still really tight)?

Biggie hands down the greatest and most influential mc of all time

Its all opinions but Pun got bars you cant sell him short in this comparison

 

[DMTxTHC]

I fucks with both Biggie and Pun heavy.

Biggie had the better albums, the better flow (more smoother and versatile), and was a better storyteller. Only thing Pun had on Biggie was internal rhyme schemes. So Biggie is better overall imo.

...don't forget Biggie's vocals was sampled on "Supa Lyrical"


Lyrically i'm supposed to represent

 

[CirocObama]

...don't forget Biggie's vocals was sampled on "Supa Lyrical"

which means what? it wasmt the year after biggie had passed on either right? Shit the original Twinz were supposed to be Fat Joe and Biggie and Biggie was aware of Pun and thought dude wwas krazy on the mic. as far as better albums Biggie prolly has the upper hand but Capital Punishment was fire and some think its better than Biggies albums but thats just opinion there is no right or wrong

 

[J-GUTTA]

for anyone to say either one of these 2 great MCs lacked or had a forced flow is ridiculous. Pun was influenced by G Rapp even he said that but that's where it stops, and BIG was the father to his style no one before and it was JayZ who was influenced by Kane

tell me Pun sounds forced or lacking in flow here

 

[yeah i rap so don't]

Puns the only nigga I know who murder Nas on a dope song...

Besides Horse of course...

AZ always has a better verse than Nas. Multi's sound nice if you can execute them and Pun may have been the best ever.

Album Making=Biggie

Song making=Biggie

Flow=Biggie

Lyrics=Pun

Delivery= Equal

With all of that said, I prefer to listen to PUN, because his verses are just amazing and sound aesthetically pleasing. I enjoy both and the slander everyone is throwing at one of the other is uncalled for.

 

[DMTxTHC]

...don't forget Biggie's vocals was sampled on "Supa Lyrical"

which means what? it wasmt the year after biggie had passed on either right? Shit the original Twinz were supposed to be Fat Joe and Biggie and Biggie was aware of Pun and thought dude wwas krazy on the mic. as far as better albums Biggie prolly has the upper hand but Capital Punishment was fire and some think its better than Biggies albums but thats just opinion there is no right or wrong

Yes, it was the year after he died. He still embraced the song with open arms though. It's funny, Supa Lyrical paid homage to Bigg and Pun shouted out Pac on You Came Up, and both songs were produced by Rockwilder.

And damn, the original version of Twinz? that woulda been interesting to hear. But he already rhymed over the Deep Cover beat, so i'm good. And NORE said that Biggie was supposed to be on the remix of T.O.N.Y.

...and Capital Punishment is a dope album.

 

[CirocObama]

...don't forget Biggie's vocals was sampled on "Supa Lyrical"

which means what? it wasmt the year after biggie had passed on either right? Shit the original Twinz were supposed to be Fat Joe and Biggie and Biggie was aware of Pun and thought dude wwas krazy on the mic. as far as better albums Biggie prolly has the upper hand but Capital Punishment was fire and some think its better than Biggies albums but thats just opinion there is no right or wrong

Yes, it was the year after he died. He still embraced the song with open arms though. It's funny, Supa Lyrical paid homage to Bigg and Pun shouted out Pac on You Came Up, and both songs were produced by Rockwilder.

And damn, the original version of Twinz? that woulda been interesting to hear. But he already rhymed over the Deep Cover beat, so i'm good. And NORE said that Biggie was supposed to be on the remix of T.O.N.Y.

...and Capital Punishment is a dope album.

True but i still think it would of been nice to hear. Fat Joe said that he was getting a deal from Puff until Atlantic i think it was offered him a deal knowing that the Twinz thing was circulating and Puff claimed he couldn't compete with it for him (not financially but just the details of it). So Joe went to Atlantic as you can see on Don Cartagena. This was all around the time J.O.S.E. dropped/right after it dropped so it was all around late 1995/96.

 

[CoolJoe]

Chris is better, but both are great.

 

[rapmastermind]

Ready To Die - 5 Mics

LAD - 5 Mics

Capitol Punishment - 5 Mics

Yeah Baby - 3.5 MICS

Pun was great, there's no doubting it. I honestly think he should get more mentions of being with the elite all time than he does. He shinned almost every time he touched the mic and even out shinned some greats along the way with tracks he was featured on with them. Overall Pun was sick. Better than Big?, Well for one Big skillet overall was stronger. Pun was influenced by G rap for sure, but he was also influenced by Big. Big was good at everything, flow, cadence, lyrics the whole 9 which is why his song diversity was a little better than Pun's overall. Pun was better with multi's cause his style was about fitting a many words as possible. Big had the slow flow but still could switch it up at the drop of the dime. RTD & LAD are better than Pun's catalog. They both never really got out shinned on the track but Big's catalog holds up better overall. CP was classic but it did have a lot of guest appearances. Yeah Baby was uneven. Let's not forget Pun sampled Big on "Super Lyrical", I wonder why, maybe cause everyone knows those words describe Big?

 

[ocelot]

Kane fathered Biggie let's not act like he didn't...

Jaz fathered Jigga

 

[ocelot]

@CoolJoe

I see what you did there...lol

 

[rapmastermind]

Kane fathered Biggie let's not act like he didn't...

Jaz fathered Jigga

Big was influenced by Kane for sure but he also got influences from others. Jay was influenced by Jaz O but then switched his style from his influences from Kane, Biggie and NaS. The fact is Big's created a new blueprint that Jay and Pun followed. So that's why I brought up influence. Pun could not be the fat rapping dude spitting hard shit if Biggie didn't break down that door 1st.

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

Pun killed it, even though both were dead

 

[ocelot]

@rapmastermind

I agree... But at the same time we can say ( get your feelings and wack buttons ready) Biggie was influenced by Pac a little bit...

Nas was a Rakim/ Kool G nigga with harder punchlines...

Plus Nas said he borrowed from Chef and Biggs

Not to be a stan but I never could see how Jay was rapping like Nas... Flow wise maybe because that was a popular flow at the time but I hear different people on everything else...

Post some songs

 

[CirocObama]

Kane fathered Biggie let's not act like he didn't...

Jaz fathered Jigga

Big was influenced by Kane for sure but he also got influences from others. Jay was influenced by Jaz O but then switched his style from his influences from Kane, Biggie and NaS. The fact is Big's created a new blueprint that Jay and Pun followed. So that's why I brought up influence. Pun could not be the fat rapping dude spitting hard shit if Biggie didn't break down that door 1st.

Ughh do you know how many times people used to say that Biggie bit King T? Biggie was def didnt create that lane are you serious? I mean shit even Fat Joe was rapping and had a album prior to Biggie so how could he have been Pun's influence in that lane, the fuck you talmbout? But honestly it's even pointless to argue anything with you cuz you seriously seem way into Biggie and anything that had with Biggie to do. It's not a diss but even the fact that you gave LAD a 5 mic album is just hilarious. I doubt alot of people take your opinion seriously here when it comes to Biggie so..again not a diss just sayin.

 

[Gen. Stasia]

LMAO, post me a track that sounds like Jay was influenced by Nas & B.I.G.

Jay-Z still GOAT tho..

 

[ocelot]

but wasnt DP supposed to have Nas on it... I would think that Jay would make a song that complimented him...

 

[YamoleySensei]

Overall, advantage Big

but lyrics and flow, Pun is killing son