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When and why exactly did Andre 3000 end up anywhere close to the greats ?!?
Rey Negro;3249199 said:never said that. all you lil niggas.....stop hopping in the conversation if you not gonna read the thread.
niggas said Dre was top 5. that he was better than niggas like Rakim, DMX, Ice Cube. how you better than them and you never had a solo career?
Bruh I read this entire thread and your posts and logic are rediculous. You argue 3 Stacks cant be one of the greats because he's part of a duo.
I got a solution for you. Next time you listen to a Kast record, envision the tracks as Andre featuring Big Boi or vice versa.
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illogics;3249589 said:Mood Muzik 2 > A good deal of Andres work
Aquemini>Everything Joe Budden has ever done
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Lab Baby;3249442 said:I'm talkin solo wise. I been bigged up Dre this whole thread, I know what he did. But he's simply not qualified to be a GOAT contender cuz he hasn't held down an album on his own. If that's the case, is Papoose (all corny punchlines aside), Joe Budden (who put out only 1 major album), Joell Ortiz and any other mixtape rapper GOAT contenders? They can definitely spit with the best of them, but they haven't done what GOATs do, and that's put out classic SOLO albums.
All the greats that have been mentioned put out widely successful albums though. So naming Ortiz, Budden or any other mixtape rapper doesn't hold water. Andre's got a very solid body of work in the form of OutKast
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VulcanRaven
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mryounggun;3243163 said:There aren't 10 MC's to ever touch a mic that are nicer than Dre. That prolly had something to do with it.
Jay
Big
Nas
Common
Talib
Kool G Rap
Ice Cube
Rakim
Big Daddy Kane
Chuck D
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VulcanRaven
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FoolTime;3249586 said:Bruh I read this entire thread and your posts and logic are rediculous. You argue 3 Stacks cant be one of the greats because he's part of a duo.
I got a solution for you. Next time you listen to a Kast record, envision the tracks as Andre featuring Big Boi or vice versa.
I always thought that Big Boi was better than Dre.Dre just appeal more to the masses.
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JDSTAYWITIT
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Mad Jack;3249715 said:Jay
Big
Nas
Common
Talib
Kool G Rap
Ice Cube
Rakim
Big Daddy Kane
Chuck D
Dre is not qualified to be in the same conversation with these guys?
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VulcanRaven
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Dizzel3000;3249856 said:Dre is not qualified to be in the same conversation with these guys?
What did he do that put him in the same conversation? Maybe with Talib or Common,but he had no where near the impact of the others.He damn sure can not spit like Kane and G Rap.He does not have a classic like Big (I got Outkast first 2 albums but they are not classic), He did not have a message like Cube and Chuck and Nas and Jay I should not even have to explain.as for Rakim,well Ra influenced a whole generation of rappers.
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Mad Jack;3249904 said:What did he do that put him in the same conversation? Maybe with Talib or Common,but he had no where near the impact of the others.He damn sure can not spit like Kane and G Rap.He does not have a classic like Big (I got Outkast first 2 albums but they are not classic), He did not have a message like Cube and Chuck and Nas and Jay I should not even have to explain.as for Rakim,well Ra influenced a whole generation of rappers.
no message? What were you listening to if you have their first 2 albums to say he has no message?
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Mad Jack;3249715 said:Jay
Big
Nas
Common
Talib
Kool G Rap
Ice Cube
Rakim
Big Daddy Kane
Chuck D
You have to be kidding me...
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VulcanRaven
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ptowndonte;3249965 said:He has more material than Biggie. Lyrically better than Biggie. Musically better than Biggie
You are the minority in this as the rest of the world will say other wise.
blackrain;3249981 said:no message? What were you listening to if you have their first 2 albums to say he has no message?
So what's his message when him and dre be talking about bitches hoeing and being fly?
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VulcanRaven
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cuttadc13;3250023 said:You have to be kidding me...
Do you even know who all of those rappers are that I named? Outside of Common and Talib which is debatable Dre is not touching those artist.
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JDSTAYWITIT
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Mad Jack;3249904 said:What did he do that put him in the same conversation? Maybe with Talib or Common,but he had no where near the impact of the others.He damn sure can not spit like Kane and G Rap.He does not have a classic like Big (I got Outkast first 2 albums but they are not classic), He did not have a message like Cube and Chuck and Nas and Jay I should not even have to explain.as for Rakim,well Ra influenced a whole generation of rappers.
This shit is all so wrong ....
He didnt have a message??
The First THREE Kast Albums arnt classic?? especially ATLiens & Aquemini
He cant flow with the best of em??
i mean ....by all means bruh you are entitled to your opinion ...but when i see those arguements it leads me to believe that either you have infact not listened to a single outkast album ...or you simply are in denial ....
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ShencotheMC
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Woah woah woah, who got 3 classics now? lol yo the ic is hilarious
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shenco;3250160 said:Woah woah woah, who got 3 classics now? lol yo the ic is hilarious
so Southerplayalistic, Aquemini, and ATLiens arent generally considered classics?
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D-Jack;3249939 said:This nigga said Fabolous.
yea that caught me off guard too LoL ....
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Mad Jack;3250051 said:Do you even know who all of those rappers are that I named? Outside of Common and Talib which is debatable Dre is not touching those artist.
Not Touching Biggie??
Not Touching Chuck D??
Not Touching Big Daddy Kane??
He's musically better than all those u listed sir... musically better than Jay too while ur at it.. The only ones I'd say u could go either way is Nas, Rakim, and Superheads baby father..
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JDSTAYWITIT
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Treize117;3250216 said:so Southerplayalistic, Aquemini, and ATLiens arent generally considered classics?
word...... man this niggas better go do some research......lol acting all shocked at shit thats common knowledge
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