'When Will Hip-Hop Hurry Up and Die?' article

[dontdiedontkillanyon]

A big part of why hiphop sucks so much right now and no one is talking about is ARTIST DEVELOPMENT. Everyone is looking for the instant hit and if it doesn't pop the artist get dropped; these labels are just turning over so many artist and are not developing any artist. Also alot of these rappers aren't paying dues and developing their skills (song writing, performance, putting together albums.etc), a motherfucker can buy a mic, download these cheap sounding beatmaking software, create a myspace page and wallaaaaaa you have a Soulja Boy; an artist who has not paid dues. It took artist back in the days years to get put on.

Hiphop is fast food music now, cheap to make and easilly consumed and doesn't satisfy your appetite.

I think that's true with all popular music nowadays, not just Hip Hop. Record labels being too scared to invest long term even more nowadays, partly because of the internet, instead knocking out new artists each year with the same lifespan never to be seen again once their job in selling a couple thousand singles is done. The music press and industry are too concerned with hyping 'the next big thing' and who will be big next year instead of actually letting artists with potential actually grow.

With Hip Hop though it's in such a rut it's not even funny. When people say Hip Hop is shit/dead I can't even defend it any more, and the same thing with Hip Hop now is what happened to Dance and Electronic music during the whole 'superstar DJ era' about ten years ago. Though the genre probably isn't relevant to anyone living in America you can still all learn a shit load from it, especially when they both share a lot more similarities then you probably realise. The music turned to shit, people into the music deserted it, the DJs and producers who were still in it just for the pay packet fell on to the scrap heap, the people into the music walked and the radio and TV wanted nothing to do with it. It basically killed itself, but then new talent came in and built it back up again finding an audience and the general music is strong again. Now even Hip Hop producers over the past how many years have been influenced, sampling or just blatantly jacking Dance tracks for their own tunes. Rock and Indie bands are swapping guitars for synths, etc. It just seems like the same thing with Hip Hop now with no one doing anything interesting with the music and it generally being in a rut. With the article I can see what the bloke is saying simply because it's happened before and music generally moves in cycles anyway. I mean who else is there coming up that's genuinely bringing something new and exciting to Hip Hop? J Cole? Jay Elect? Any one else? The biggest artist in Hip Hop is some 40 year old who had his first album out in 1996 and no one is arguably on his level right now in terms of popularity. I really don't know where else the genre is going to be honest apart from continuing to churn out continual crap with the occasional glimpse of brilliance once or twice, the artistry in the music is gone. Sonically it doesn't even sound that good. Less sampling and more presets has just made it sound cheap. When you've got Hip hop artists saying they either they don't even listen to the music or they want nothing else to do with it any more then you know something isn't right, and it's not just a case of some old fool crying over how it was 'back in the day' either. So yeah, I can see where the bloke is going with his article with it needing to destroy itself before it began getting better again

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

Dope thread with tons of good points...

 

[The_wraith]

go ahead niggas.....just say it.........Nas was right.

 

[Lets Get It Lakers]

hiphop been in the hospital for about 4 years now hopefully it get out this decade

 

[longmeat]

man jay electronica and lupe gives me some hope. shit even spot and reign man. but for the most part, hip-hop really lost it's soul man. shit is pretty fucking dead to me.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

This was a dope thread way back from the beginning of this incarnation of the reason...

 

[genocide_cutter]

Interesting article

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

I know reading is a hard concept for some of you kats(Irony of them posting on a message board is not lost to all) but this is a good read and should be a great discusssion...

 

[usmarin3]

At one point hiphop set the trend, now it follows it. I think what happened to rap is, the labels and artist started to see what worked (certain artist who sold alot), and in return tried to create a version of it. So hiphop essentially watered itself down, no one take chances anymore of being different.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

At one point hiphop set the trend, now it follows it. I think what happened to rap is, the labels and artist started to see what worked (certain artist who sold alot), and in return tried to create a version of it. So hiphop essentially watered itself down, no one take chances anymore of being different.

Sad but true I have argued this point to deaf ears a lot...

 

[genocide_cutter]

Hip-Hop BEEN dead, thank the fans for that.

But what i do hate is when these niggas write articles critisizing today's hip-hop music they ALWAYS critisize everything except the East Coast. It's like a East Coast love fest. I love East Coast hip-hop like anybody else but it's like they always act like East Coast is so good and only has concious rappers and are so profound. And they ALWAYS praise Jay-Z like no one else.

Same article, different writer.

Fuck you pussy juggalo whoop whoop

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

LOL @ u talkin' about the state of Hip-Hop when Eminem and especially Drake gets you excited. I dont ever wanna hear you complain about another rapper cuz theres TONS of MC's just in the mainstream that's better than Drake as MC's so fuck off.

you should no better by now then even entertaining dude he has issues...

 

[J. Rob]

Why is hip hop the only genre judged by it's mainstream artists? The dopest shit has ALWAYS come from the underground...even back in the 90s.

Wu-Tang Clan, early Nas, Mobb Deep, Boot Camp Click, O.C., The Pharcyde, Ras Kass, A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, Gangstarr, Jeru The Damaja, Goodie Mob, Scarface & The Geto Boys, The Beatnuts.....these names constantly come up whenever the "Golden Era" is discussed. They were a big part of what made the golden era what it was, but most of them never even sniffed the Top 40, not even on the Urban chart.

Hip Hop fans are obsessed with the mainstream, as if it's 100% of what hip hop is.

 

[genocide_cutter]

Why is hip hop the only genre judged by it's mainstream artists? The dopest shit has ALWAYS come from the underground...even back in the 90s.

Wu-Tang Clan, early Nas, Mobb Deep, Boot Camp Click, O.C., The Pharcyde, Ras Kass, A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, Gangstarr, Jeru The Damaja, Goodie Mob, Scarface & The Geto Boys, The Beatnuts.....these names constantly come up whenever the "Golden Era" is discussed. They were a big part of what made the golden era what it was, but most of them never even sniffed the Top 40, not even on the Urban chart.

Hip Hop fans are obsessed with the mainstream, as if it's 100% of what hip hop is.

co-sign.....

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

Why is hip hop the only genre judged by it's mainstream artists? The dopest shit has ALWAYS come from the underground...even back in the 90s.

Wu-Tang Clan, early Nas, Mobb Deep, Boot Camp Click, O.C., The Pharcyde, Ras Kass, A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, Gangstarr, Jeru The Damaja, Goodie Mob, Scarface & The Geto Boys, The Beatnuts.....these names constantly come up whenever the "Golden Era" is discussed. They were a big part of what made the golden era what it was, but most of them never even sniffed the Top 40, not even on the Urban chart.

Hip Hop fans are obsessed with the mainstream, as if it's 100% of what hip hop is.

the Industry took a turn in the late 90's and from that point on it was no longer about HipHop is was about rap music and has been ever since...

 

[Kingpr0n2]

Hey, don't get me wrong, and mistake me for something I am not.But I see this as a WHITE agenda. Why isn't one waiting for rock to die?

 

[skpjr78]

hip hop already died. u didnt get the memo?????

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

lets readdress this article...

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

lets readdress this article...

Yes my brother! Preach on! All praise is due to the glorious ebony kulture of Hip Hop! Long live Afrika Bambaataa (whom Afrika is named after, true story, ask Dr. Ben). How dare these white savage Euro-techno whitey whites accuse OUR culture of being dead. Just because Ice Cube only sold like four albums does not mean a thing! Don't let them use their tricknowledgy on you, black man!

 

[JokerzWyld]

Hip Hop is the same music we all know and remembered from back in the days. The elements are still present and the music is still good. The biggest problem is the business.