What's the biggest reason for the disconnect between the younger and older generation of hip hop fan

[natural born sinners]

Boils down to age, preference and also what older fans came up listening to in comparison to younger fans. Big, Pac and wu tang set a higher bar than 50, ja rule and jeezy

 

[numbaz...80's baby]

Boils down to age, preference and also what older fans came up listening to in comparison to younger fans. Big, Pac and wu tang set a higher bar than 50, ja rule and jeezy

Sounds like the older generation is at fault. The apple didnt fall far from the tree.

 

[Ear2DaSt]

back then you had to be cool,hardcore,street

now you got to be a borderline nerd

nerd shit is in style

 

[natural born sinners]

Boils down to age, preference and also what older fans came up listening to in comparison to younger fans. Big, Pac and wu tang set a higher bar than 50, ja rule and jeezy

Sounds like the older generation is at fault. The apple didnt fall far from the tree.

There's alot of factors...50 made people look at numbers like no-one before him, so labels n fans started expecting certain shit from rappers that wasn't demanded as heavily before GRODT. The South put lyricism in the background and the West is partly responsible for some of the fake gang shit going on. I'm personally not a fan of mumble rap, I'm of the older generational but at the same time I see why that shit attracts my nephews. They not concerned with the shit I look for in music, so it is what it is.

 

[Logical Truths]

The older generation secretly envys the money that the younger generation is able to generate.

In my opinion I dont think the younger generation has anything against the older generation except when they receive hate. I've seen many young artists sample music they grew up on, and give props in interviews.

Rap has evolved on so many levels since its birth. Its sad that it all can't be enjoyed together, but I guess that's what money does.

 

[SolemnSauce]

Different upbringing

 

[Qiv_Owan]

The older generation secretly envys the money that the younger generation is able to generate.

In my opinion I dont think the younger generation has anything against the older generation except when they receive hate. I've seen many young artists sample music they grew up on, and give props in interviews.

Rap has evolved on so many levels since its birth. Its sad that it all can't be enjoyed together, but I guess that's what money does.

Along with this its the quality of music that generates this high income, and the lack of skill from some of these newer rappers

 

[Logical Truths]

The older generation secretly envys the money that the younger generation is able to generate.

In my opinion I dont think the younger generation has anything against the older generation except when they receive hate. I've seen many young artists sample music they grew up on, and give props in interviews.

Rap has evolved on so many levels since its birth. Its sad that it all can't be enjoyed together, but I guess that's what money does.

Along with this its the quality of music that generates this high income, and the lack of skill from some of these newer rappers

You right. People like Rakim and G Rap put in work. I dont recall ever hearing them two hate on anybody, but you can only imagine how that feels. Some of these new artists are literally playing on the mic.

 

[Ear2DaSt]

I dunno but the older generation was going diamond,triple,quadruple platinum

these kats are going certified wood for the most part

and if they do go plat it takes alot longer

with a few acceptions

 

[natural born sinners]

The older generation secretly envys the money that the younger generation is able to generate.

In my opinion I dont think the younger generation has anything against the older generation except when they receive hate. I've seen many young artists sample music they grew up on, and give props in interviews.

Rap has evolved on so many levels since its birth. Its sad that it all can't be enjoyed together, but I guess that's what money does.

Along with this its the quality of music that generates this high income, and the lack of skill from some of these newer rappers

I think this is part of it...i think some of the older more technically skilled rapper see dudes getting it w less talent and simpler music n feel a certain way. Is like NBA players from the 80's n 90's seeing new dudes playing in a "softer" era n don't always respect they scoring bc of the new rules

 

[Ear2DaSt]

it's not the rappers it's the fan base without fans buying the shit there is no rapper

at the same time it's kinda fake back then you had to back what came out your mouth with big giant dudes

these days lil skinny dudes be talking hard and people buy it but back then you would of got challenged

now they can use there homies to protect them back then you had to hold your own weight

there is so much that is different

but also hypocrisy like for example they say old rappers don't live that shooting life that hardcore life they speak of judging them

but the lil skinny non hardcore rappers be talking like they hardcore it's the same thing you may not be talking shooting or as violent but you still talking hard when they not hard like the old school rappers

you still not being bout that life but just cuz you not rapping super hardcore they point fingers but still do the same and maybe even worse cuz the old school rappers was bout that life just get false accused at times.

 

[808HiLife808]

another thing is the new mfs are making music that sounds good in the club and prob under the influence of something. i cant stand that mumble rap shit, but if im in the club/lounge/bar drinkin something, not gonna lie it starts soundin alright lol. most of the older generation aint out there in the clubs and shit like that.

the new generation isnt as concerned with longevity. theyre makin singles. they take a hot sound, go with it, get their download money and run with it.

 

[Ear2DaSt]

What is mumble rap to you?

Im not a grammar freak

I notice in my time listening to hip hop there are times you can't understand what is said

it's either said to fast or slightly mumbled to me that's fine as long as the majority is understandable

grammar freaks demand that you rhyme words the way the technically correct way them folks speak it

Im not feeling that let urban shit be urban shit

 

[R.D.]

Just read this thread

"These young nigggas this...these young niggas that"

My nigga Bodie broke this divide down beautifully on the wire...or maybe it was Poot

"These youngins are a new breed...it's the end of the world"

 

[5th Letter]

another thing is the new mfs are making music that sounds good in the club and prob under the influence of something. i cant stand that mumble rap shit, but if im in the club/lounge/bar drinkin something, not gonna lie it starts soundin alright lol. most of the older generation aint out there in the clubs and shit like that.

the new generation isnt as concerned with longevity. theyre makin singles. they take a hot sound, go with it, get their download money and run with it.

My thing is that the so called mumble rap imo is horrible BUT i don't understand it, and I also recognize that it ain't for me. Let the young niggas enjoy their era's hip hop. My only issue is that we need to be more understanding of each other's point of view and show respect both ways.

 

[VanguardBLK]

Maturity!

 

[Matike85]

Old Testament of Hip Hop Era was from 1973 - 2006

We are in the New Testament of Hip Hop Now... The year 2007 was beginning of a New Testament of Hip Hop ... Where is Social Media defines your credentials not the streets and not recording labels...These are the New Rules

And this was the defining moment when Hip Hop/Rap officially change forever... remember this

So People like Gene Simmons from Kiss from others genres and the older generations Of Hip Hop heads can finally understand and accept that Today's Hip Hop is the New Rock & Roll for this generation worldwide now.

 

[Nechesh358]

Alot of the younger generation doesnt really care about the history of the culture. I grew up on 90s hiphop but i would talk with the older heads and go back n listen to all the good shit that dropped n the 80s.

Without KRS, Kool g, Rakim, LL, Kane, PE, Run DMC there would be no Nas Jay Big or Pac.

 

[NoCompetition]

Just read this thread

"These young nigggas this...these young niggas that"

My nigga Bodie broke this divide down beautifully on the wire...or maybe it was Poot

"These youngins are a new breed...it's the end of the world"

Yeah. And I dont think this is really a "thing" that really matters like that. Nobody cares if somebody doesnt like "mumble rap" you just sound salty making up bitter names. The thing is Im old enough to be bitter apparently but Im not. The Dre relevancy thread was mentioned and maybe its a little bit of backlash from the youngsters. None of it really matters to me because I listen to new songs that I like on the radio or wherever and older songs too. There is really no divide to me. If I dont like it that stands too but the age has nothing to do with that.

There are some differences, now things move faster used to be less coming out. If you cant enjoy current music, thats on you nobody cares. So thats part of it people talking about what they "dont like" getting tired.

The "gap" wont get bridged with those who are too bitter. And it doesnt really matter much outside of little "attacks" back and fourth on here. As its been for years, when people jump in their ride and turn on the stereo none of these discussions matter like that.

 

[Matike85]

The main problem is the old generation came in when hip hop was in its infancy, so the styles still tried to pay homage to the rappers before them and in turn kept the essence of what made rap RAP.

What we have now is RAP/HIP-HOP is now pop music, Simple as that. So what has occurred is hip-hop is following the same watered down formula that pop music follows in order to make music, But its all my generation was raised on really so we defend it despite it being in some ways terrible. the beats now IMO are much better than most of the 00's but they are beginning to all sound the same.

I mean look at metro boomin, talented guy don't get me wrong but his trap music style has dominated for 3-4 years now. You got future and niggas like lil yatchy doing pop songs, Niggas like G-eazy who is obviously just a industry plant to make money. Everyone's just trying to make money and as history has shown time and time again when something needs to be mass produced the quality diminishes.

TLDR; Old heads grew up before rap became pop music and niggas wasnt just trying to get money, Young niggas like myself grew up on niggas just trying to get money but its basically all we know so were gonna defend it.

Actually Drake is to blame for this 100%

Old Testament of Hip Hop Era was from 1973 - 2006

We are in the New Testament of Hip Hop Now... The year 2007 was beginning of a New Testament of Hip Hop ... Where is Social Media defines your credentials not the streets and not recording labels...These are the New Rules

And this was the defining moment when Hip Hop/Rap officially change forever... remember this

So People like Gene Simmons from Kiss from others genres and the older generations Of Hip Hop heads can finally understand and accept that Today's Hip Hop is the New Rock & Roll for this generation worldwide now.

@Sorrow_god ...Exactly

Kanye West is the fore father of Drake so Kanye West is the one the blame