What's the biggest reason for the disconnect between the younger and older generation of hip hop fan

[Kwan Dai]

The "old heads" fucked all of this shit up. You cant blame the youth.

The apple dont fall far from the tree. It's a process to go from great to shit. Shit didnt create itself.

Who told thes kids its cool to talk about drugs and violence? They didnt teach themselves.

Who started wearing these faggot ass clothes? They didnt just wake up one day and say im going to wear tight clothes. That shit was pushed on them just like baggy jeans were pushed on us.

You tell us. The majority of Artists who made reality music did so, with the message for the listener to change their lives, and to get as far away from negativity as possible. So, I am not sure what "old heads" spit reality music just because. For any who did spit drugs and violence for simple entertainment value or monetary gain they were spoken about on record and in public as detrimental to Hip Hop culture. Which, by the way became taboo to with terms like "playa haters" or the universal favorite "he getting money doe"

I don't know you tell us who started wearing faggot clothes. What I can tell you since you seem to have no knowledge on the subject. Baggy clothes was the direct result of Hip Hop breaking away from the WHITE EUROPEAN designers who made form fitting clothes and from White entertainment influence in general. This began with Run-DMC. Fast foward White entertainment influence is has pretty much overtaken Hip Hop since early the 2000's now we see niggas running around looking like skaters,Boy George, David Lee Roth and Stephen Tyler.

 

[moyo]

This shit is simple as Simon really. Every generation thinks theirs is the best, and that the generation after either doesn't know or has no respect for shit. I try to be open minded when my son plays some of these new cats, and all of em aren't bad, but I'm too stuck in my ways and sound to adapt to this new shit. I think we all can have our lanes, but hip hoppers do need more respect for the generation that paved the way.

 

[numbaz...80's baby]

The "old heads" fucked all of this shit up. You cant blame the youth.

The apple dont fall far from the tree. It's a process to go from great to shit. Shit didnt create itself.

Who told thes kids its cool to talk about drugs and violence? They didnt teach themselves.

Who started wearing these faggot ass clothes? They didnt just wake up one day and say im going to wear tight clothes. That shit was pushed on them just like baggy jeans were pushed on us.

You tell us. The majority of Artists who made reality music did so, with the message for the listener to change their lives, and to get as far away from negativity as possible. So, I am not sure what "old heads" spit reality music just because. For any who did spit drugs and violence for simple entertainment value or monetary gain they were spoken about on record and in public as detrimental to Hip Hop culture. Which, by the way became taboo to with terms like "playa haters" or the universal favorite "he getting money doe"

I don't know you tell us who started wearing faggot clothes. What I can tell you since you seem to have no knowledge on the subject. Baggy clothes was the direct result of Hip Hop breaking away from the WHITE EUROPEAN designers who made form fitting clothes and from White entertainment influence in general. This began with Run-DMC. Fast foward White entertainment influence is has pretty much overtaken Hip Hop since early the 2000's now we see niggas running around looking like skaters,Boy George, David Lee Roth and Stephen Tyler.

I can tell you Diddy and kanye West was wearing skirts, Jim Jones was wearing tight ass clothes and Wayne was kissing his daddy. These are all facts, not an opinion or uneducated guess.

The youngsters were influenced by that.

You're absolutely right...there was a time where rappers explained the good and bad from the dope game...the trap.

 

[whatevathehell]

different era in time

different perspective

different experiences

......=age

close thread.

 

[numbaz...80's baby]

The problem with society, not just rap, is that the older generation doesnt want to take responsibility for the shit show of offspring that was created from them.

They didnt get here by themselves. They learned from somebody and it wasnt some 85 year old white man.

They are a direct result of us.

the older generation was all dope dealers in their rhymes.....all the kids became crackheads

 

[whatevathehell]

ad rock says it the best here..
=5m47s

rap music was built on the premise of "fuck everything you're doing and fuck you, this is what i'm doing and this is whats happening".

the rap music is disposable comment needs a thread of its own. I felt some kind of way when dude said that but....I cant deny that alot of the shit today is filler for the moment...peep the video.

 

[Sorrow_god]

The main problem is the old generation came in when hip hop was in its infancy, so the styles still tried to pay homage to the rappers before them and in turn kept the essence of what made rap RAP.

What we have now is RAP/HIP-HOP is now pop music, Simple as that. So what has occurred is hip-hop is following the same watered down formula that pop music follows in order to make music, But its all my generation was raised on really so we defend it despite it being in some ways terrible. the beats now IMO are much better than most of the 00's but they are beginning to all sound the same.

I mean look at metro boomin, talented guy don't get me wrong but his trap music style has dominated for 3-4 years now. You got future and niggas like lil yatchy doing pop songs, Niggas like G-eazy who is obviously just a industry plant to make money. Everyone's just trying to make money and as history has shown time and time again when something needs to be mass produced the quality diminishes.

TLDR; Old heads grew up before rap became pop music and niggas wasnt just trying to get money, Young niggas like myself grew up on niggas just trying to get money but its basically all we know so were gonna defend it.

Actually Drake is to blame for this 100%

 

[Qiv_Owan]

The whole "Im not a rapper" rappers did it in, some of these new artists dont respect music

 

[Stew]

The main problem is the old generation came in when hip hop was in its infancy, so the styles still tried to pay homage to the rappers before them and in turn kept the essence of what made rap RAP.

What we have now is RAP/HIP-HOP is now pop music, Simple as that. So what has occurred is hip-hop is following the same watered down formula that pop music follows in order to make music, But its all my generation was raised on really so we defend it despite it being in some ways terrible. the beats now IMO are much better than most of the 00's but they are beginning to all sound the same.

I mean look at metro boomin, talented guy don't get me wrong but his trap music style has dominated for 3-4 years now. You got future and niggas like lil yatchy doing pop songs, Niggas like G-eazy who is obviously just a industry plant to make money. Everyone's just trying to make money and as history has shown time and time again when something needs to be mass produced the quality diminishes.

TLDR; Old heads grew up before rap became pop music and niggas wasnt just trying to get money, Young niggas like myself grew up on niggas just trying to get money but its basically all we know so were gonna defend it.

Actually Drake is to blame for this 100%

Well said

 

[5th Letter]

The whole "Im not a rapper" rappers did it in, some of these new artists dont respect music

I hate when these artists say stuff like this.

 

[StoneColdMikey]

No respect.

Yes from both sides

 

[KnowReasonForPeace]

The problem with society, not just rap, is that the older generation doesnt want to take responsibility for the shit show of offspring that was created from them.

They didnt get here by themselves. They learned from somebody and it wasnt some 85 year old white man.

They are a direct result of us.

the older generation was all dope dealers in their rhymes.....all the kids became crackheads

85 year old white men, record execs or whoever in charge of these labels encourages the ignorance though. Make them new niggas feel as if their justified in all the fuckery they do. Give them some money, wait for their buzz tobdie down then sign up the next nigga new nigga and treat him the same way. Never ending cycle

 

[Qiv_Owan]

The whole "Im not a rapper" rappers did it in, some of these new artists dont respect music

I hate when these artists say stuff like this.

Lil Uzi Vert on Ebro made me lose all respect for dude

Nigga was like "I dont even write raps, I dont even know how to count bars"...no respek

Oh yea I realized alotta these new niggas dont write raps cuz its a strong chance they cant read

 

[DarthRozay]

Musically speaking, I'd say it's because current hip-hop and hip-hop from the 80's, possibly even the 90's are so vastly different that they're barely the same genre.

Then there's the fact that there's some things people do nowadays that was practically against hip-hop's unofficial code of ethics. You see how fast people hop on trends and sounds that someone else made hot these days. "that producer got a hit? I need a song just like it from him!" "autotune singing on the hook is hot? gotta get that plug-in for myself!". I don't think oldheads that were around in the days when someone would get beat up for "jackin" raps or beats or whatever else will ever respect that.

 

[DarthRozay]

No respect.

true.......

but it's still

when ear2dakb or 5 grand drop a wack thread

 

[numbaz...80's baby]

The problem with society, not just rap, is that the older generation doesnt want to take responsibility for the shit show of offspring that was created from them.

They didnt get here by themselves. They learned from somebody and it wasnt some 85 year old white man.

They are a direct result of us.

the older generation was all dope dealers in their rhymes.....all the kids became crackheads

85 year old white men, record execs or whoever in charge of these labels encourages the ignorance though. Make them new niggas feel as if their justified in all the fuckery they do. Give them some money, wait for their buzz tobdie down then sign up the next nigga new nigga and treat him the same way. Never ending cycle

So you're saying these kids pop mollies, wear tight ass clothes and rap like they have Tourette's Syndrome because an old white man told them to?

I disagree, I believe it's because Lil Wayne's faggot ass was skipping around in Zebra leggins and nobody checked him about it. So the kids followed through.

He also influenced all of these wack ass niggaz not to write anything. Their "freestyles" werent inspired by an 85 year old white man.

That old crusty cracker just sees a profit and will continue to use them niggaz.

 

[KnowReasonForPeace]

The problem with society, not just rap, is that the older generation doesnt want to take responsibility for the shit show of offspring that was created from them.

They didnt get here by themselves. They learned from somebody and it wasnt some 85 year old white man.

They are a direct result of us.

the older generation was all dope dealers in their rhymes.....all the kids became crackheads

85 year old white men, record execs or whoever in charge of these labels encourages the ignorance though. Make them new niggas feel as if their justified in all the fuckery they do. Give them some money, wait for their buzz tobdie down then sign up the next nigga new nigga and treat him the same way. Never ending cycle

So you're saying these kids pop mollies, wear tight ass clothes and rap like they have Tourette's Syndrome because an old white man told them to?

I disagree, I believe it's because Lil Wayne's faggot ass was skipping around in Zebra leggins and nobody checked him about it. So the kids followed through.

He also influenced all of these wack ass niggaz not to write anything. Their "freestyles" werent inspired by an 85 year old white man.

That old crusty cracker just sees a profit and will continue to use them niggaz.

Nope, im saying they encourage that behavior for profit then drop'em for the next new nigga

 

[Ear2DaSt]

different era in time

different perspective

different experiences

......=age

close thread.

No shit was different back then compared to what it is today

I notice younger kats don't like to hear that

 

[numbaz...80's baby]

The problem with society, not just rap, is that the older generation doesnt want to take responsibility for the shit show of offspring that was created from them.

They didnt get here by themselves. They learned from somebody and it wasnt some 85 year old white man.

They are a direct result of us.

the older generation was all dope dealers in their rhymes.....all the kids became crackheads

85 year old white men, record execs or whoever in charge of these labels encourages the ignorance though. Make them new niggas feel as if their justified in all the fuckery they do. Give them some money, wait for their buzz tobdie down then sign up the next nigga new nigga and treat him the same way. Never ending cycle

So you're saying these kids pop mollies, wear tight ass clothes and rap like they have Tourette's Syndrome because an old white man told them to?

I disagree, I believe it's because Lil Wayne's faggot ass was skipping around in Zebra leggins and nobody checked him about it. So the kids followed through.

He also influenced all of these wack ass niggaz not to write anything. Their "freestyles" werent inspired by an 85 year old white man.

That old crusty cracker just sees a profit and will continue to use them niggaz.

Nope, im saying they encourage that behavior for profit then drop'em for the next new nigga

I agree

I just dont think they told them to be this way. If they can make money off you being a dipshit, they will.

Their actions are reactions. They didnt create mumble rap. We did

 

[Ear2DaSt]

Old school people had more faith in God of the bible.

It seems it's less of that more non belief or muslim.

back then you was happy if someone older put you on some dope underground.

These dayz there like get out of here ole man with that cheap knock off shit