What is the Most Effective Means of Solving/Treating the Problem of Child Sexual Abuse?

[BiblicalAtheist]

Whether or not being put to death is a deterrent it would most definitely start choppin down the number of them mfs running around. Maybe victims don't bother reporting because the risk of the perpetrator getting free or let out in a short time is a deterrent for the victim to not saying anything in the first place. Maybe if these people were euthanized victims would feel more comfortable coming forward.

There is no "help" for your sexual desire, you like what like.

 

[blackgod813]

How does it effect us all Thats a complete lie

 

[blackgod813]

Anyway if they havent done anything treatment of course anonymous treatments...i told some one recently i was gona seek treatment for depression an they said i was going to far..we stigmatized mental illness in the black community far to offten instead of celebrating those who seek help....

 

[manofmorehouse]

One way to curb it imo is decriminalization of prostitution. Does that stop it completely?? Probably not but it makes it easier for some m people to get that release without resorting to other means. Once the crime has been committed (sexual abuse of a minor) u should be killed, no questions asked

 

[Preach2Teach]

I understand what thread starter is trying to say, but as a father I have no interest in trying to understand, if a pedo ever crosses my path it's gonna get very messy very fast.

 

[blackrain]

One way to curb it imo is decriminalization of prostitution. Does that stop it completely?? Probably not but it makes it easier for some m people to get that release without resorting to other means. Once the crime has been committed (sexual abuse of a minor) u should be killed, no questions asked

Sexual assault is about power more than getting a sexual release. Legalizing prostitution wouldn't really do much if anything at all to curb child sexual abuse

 

[O.G.]

Let the victim/guardian or family decide the punishment asap. (Anything they see suitable is fair )

 

[Will Munny]

No torture is gonna change the past or prevent further child rapes so there's no need to turn to barbarism.

 

[Plutarch]

How does it effect us all Thats a complete lie

I don't know. I meant at least indirectly affected. Most, if not all, of us have family members or friends who are minors and thus potential victims, or we have family members or friends who are adults who have been directly or indirectly affected. I think that affects us as well in some way. Maybe not.

 

[Plutarch]

Anyone that endangers children should be hanged on sight. Point blank. There shouldn't be a parent in this world that thinks different. I don't want, or need, to understand their afflictions. They gosta go. Children are our most precious resource and should be treated as such.

I respect your position, and I think most people feel that way (I'm well aware that I'm going against the grain). But we'll just have to agree to disagree. I think it's very possible that your method isn't the most effective at actually protecting children. Imo, it just deals with the symptoms. It's after the fact. And drives pedophilia underground, making it potentially more dangerous and undetectable.

It's not effective because that's not what we employ. Making people feel bad only goes so far in curving an unhealthy affliction. If muhfuckas knew that they'd lose their life behind this sick fuckery, I betchu those "proclivities" would go flying out the window.

Know this... I would gladly spend the rest of my days in prison and sell my soul to the devil if someone harmed a hair on my son's head and I could kill them for it.

Jared should be dead, not studied.

Death is not a deterrent. Never has been. Most sexual abuse goes unreported anyway

When has death been used as a deterrent on a grand scale, as it relates to this issue?

Death or the threat thereof isn't a deterrent in any issue. Why would this be different?

I mostly agree. I think that threat of death as an effective deterrent is true only to a certain extent. Psychopaths/sociopaths can have delusions of grandeur that make them think they can commit crimes and never get caught. They'll even taunt cops, thinking that they're always one step ahead of them. And history has taught us that people are willing to die for their "beliefs." Back in the day, Englishmen would rebel against a king, even knowing that they'd get hanged, drawn, and quartered if they failed and were captured alive. And we all have seen Braveheart.

 

[Plutarch]

Your op is exactly what I had in mind. People need to get past the emotional aspect enough to think clearly and realize that whenever human habits are suppressed, they only becomes stronger and manifest in distorted ways. How many examples do we need before we learn? The suppressed sexual appetites of priests, the drug war, prohibition... Etc etc

I honestly think them being able to be labeled without the fear of chastised (however warranted it may be! Trust) would make for a more Heathly society in that aspect.

Exactly. That might be a better way of explaining my original point. I'm goal-oriented, and if the ultimate goal is protecting kids, I think we might need to reconsider our methods.

 

[Plutarch]

Could be that there are a lot more people with paedophilic thoughts who don't act on them than we think. Maybe most paedophiles don't actually abuse children. Maybe most do. Difficult to do anything without some numbers.

That's interesting. And that's what I want. More research so that we actually have the numbers to analyze and get closer to being better at preventing the abuse and protecting children. But it's so taboo, so we're left in the dark with nothing.

 

[Plutarch]

I don't think people can help that they are pedophiles. I think they are mentally ill. BUT if they act on those impulses, knowing the damage it can cause to a child, they should be locked away for the rest of their life. The chances repeat offending are too great. Death would not be a deterrent for people like this.

If someone came out and said "I'm attracted to children, I don't know whats wrong with me, I want it to stop, I need help, and I've never touched a child inappropriately" I would actually have sympathy for that person. Plus lots of molesters are fucked up in the head because they were raped as kids too, although I do think that's something alot of convicted sex offenders say now a days and maybe isn't always true.

That's another point I wanted to bring up. If we're sympathetic towards victims of child sexual abuse, then does that sympathy really vanish into thin air when you find out that a child sexual abuser was a victim himself? What if a loved one is abused and that makes him become an abuser? What if we don't really know why victims become abusers and therefore don't know how to prevent this from happening?

 

[Plutarch]

I look at that as a sickness that can't be cured.

Some people are just bad seeds........born damaged.

There really is no way to "fix" something like that other than to remove them from society when they get caught.

Yeah, I wonder about this, especially when it comes to psychopaths/sociopaths. If there really is nothing that we can do (especially for those who have committed the crime), then I think that they do need to be removed from the public in some way. I can't think of any other solution to be honest.

 

[Plutarch]

I understand what thread starter is trying to say, but as a father I have no interest in trying to understand, if a pedo ever crosses my path it's gonna get very messy very fast.

I respect that. I have no kids, so I can't truly empathize, but a father should be able to handle his business and protect his child(ren) by any (reasonable) means.

 

[Plutarch]

I dont know about solve or treat, but it needs to criminalized and punished consistently.

Unfortunately, it seems a certain group of people that appear more likely to commit the act are doing the sentencing. Which leads to the Jareds, Sanduskys, and alleged pedo rings. If you catch my drift.

True. That's another reason for this thread. It seems like this pedo shit is more pervasive than we think. I mean, the Catholic Church, the Boy Scouts, the Peace Corps., Nicki Minaj's brother, pedo rings in non-Western countries where a dollar can get you further than your own good? And yeah, some of these people are most likely in official positions of high power, ugh.

 

[mryounggun]

Yeah, you hit the nail on the head in your O/P. Stop demonizing pedophiles. I'm quite certain there are legit studies and treatments and therapies and shit like that for pedophiles. But why in the fuck would a pedophile actually go out go their way to seek out that sort of help when they know for a fact that their character will be assassinated, they'll be looked down on, could have violence perpetrated on them, etc, etc, etc, for some shit that they can't control?

 

[luke1733]

China seems to have a good working effective rule. Cut it off! it cuts it off!

IF the punishment is severe and grotesque enough.....many people won't do it

 

[K_Fisher]

I don't think people can help that they are pedophiles. I think they are mentally ill. BUT if they act on those impulses, knowing the damage it can cause to a child, they should be locked away for the rest of their life. The chances repeat offending are too great. Death would not be a deterrent for people like this.

If someone came out and said "I'm attracted to children, I don't know whats wrong with me, I want it to stop, I need help, and I've never touched a child inappropriately" I would actually have sympathy for that person. Plus lots of molesters are fucked up in the head because they were raped as kids too, although I do think that's something alot of convicted sex offenders say now a days and maybe isn't always true.

Great post. It is def a sort of mental fuck up.Harsh prison sentence as well investment in research and counselling structures. I'd also focus on more funding for social services and strict regulation around adoption. Child abuse will always exist sadly but the government can always improve the current system to save more kids from abuse and prevent future pedos

 

[bigbird_1]

Make education on the subject more commonplace so those who really want help for their sick minds can seek help without being totally demonized afterward. Trial run this first for a few years and if it doesn't affect the results positively then plan b it is.. Castrate/sew em up and chop their hands off at the wrist