What does J. Cole and Kanye West have that Charles Hamilton doesn't?

[Kame]

Real talented producer, i'll cosign that beat being better than anything cole had made..

This nigga had it going though, cosign from Kanye, everything, he just fucked it up with his bitchassness...
Raps have never hit me though...

 

[MC The Rapper]

sanity......

 

[soul rattler]

Also if you go to google and type in, "Charles Hamilon Steals Beat" a bunch of links will come up with the proof. That shit don't slide.

Seems to me like the dude did indeed make the beat. But there's no proof that Charles ever claimed the beat was his in the first place... unless I overlooked everything. That entire page was a counter-argument.

 

[bkkbully]

Seems to me like the dude did indeed make the beat. But there's no proof that Charles ever claimed the beat was his in the first place... unless I overlooked everything. That entire page was a counter-argument.

“Yo!

So this is the beat Charles Hamilton CLAIMS he created. In short, when I was in Austin to perform and check out SxSW, I caught his set. He performed one of his tracks, ‘Shinin,’ which I thought was dope. However, come to find out the instrumental that he used for that track is a beat I produced a while back. After he was done performing, I let him know that I produced the beat and asked him where he got it from. In the back of my mind I know that the only place he really could have gotten it from was off my MySpace page. When I told him I produced the track and liked his lyrics, he still continued to say that HE produced the track with some dude….FALSE. He said he cleared the sample and that he is the one singing ‘Shinin’ in the background and also that his homeboy was playing the keys on the track.

Now mind you, the background ‘Shinin’ vocals that he claims he laid were not laid in the studio at all. I know this because I sampled them by singing directly into the MPC.

Basically, the Frankie Beverly & Maze sample at the beginning is from when I put the beat up on MySpace. The whole point of putting that part in the track was to show that I was about to produce, from that part, my own version of the sample. So, if you don’t hear the Frankie Beverly & Maze sample in the MP3 I am sending you, that is why.

Peace,
Black Spade aka Stoney Rock”

 

[usmarin3]

Mental stability!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[b.c.o.dcru]

Kanye has alot going on in the arena of talent that CH doesn't have...his rhymein' is on a higher level, his production also. As an artist kanye is just better. J Cole? You can debate that one all day....depends on pplz opinion. Reading this thread I have seen a shit load of points against CH...some have more to do with how he is viewed as a human, but I think J. Cole has a better flow. CH can be seen as a deeper thinker but that's ones opinion against ppl who think he is just crazy or confusing.

 

[dbrazil412]

that well isnt it awkward mixtape was my shit forreal when it dropped

that mixtape pretty much summed him up though. times you heard the potential he had to be the next best thing in the game, other times you felt he wasnt taking shit serious enough

 

[G.R.I.P. Money $$$]

Mental stability!!!!!!!!!!!

this and talent...

 

[soul rattler]

“Yo!

So this is the beat Charles Hamilton CLAIMS he created. In short, when I was in Austin to perform and check out SxSW, I caught his set. He performed one of his tracks, ‘Shinin,’ which I thought was dope. However, come to find out the instrumental that he used for that track is a beat I produced a while back. After he was done performing, I let him know that I produced the beat and asked him where he got it from. In the back of my mind I know that the only place he really could have gotten it from was off my MySpace page. When I told him I produced the track and liked his lyrics, he still continued to say that HE produced the track with some dude….FALSE. He said he cleared the sample and that he is the one singing ‘Shinin’ in the background and also that his homeboy was playing the keys on the track.

Now mind you, the background ‘Shinin’ vocals that he claims he laid were not laid in the studio at all. I know this because I sampled them by singing directly into the MPC.

Basically, the Frankie Beverly & Maze sample at the beginning is from when I put the beat up on MySpace. The whole point of putting that part in the track was to show that I was about to produce, from that part, my own version of the sample. So, if you don’t hear the Frankie Beverly & Maze sample in the MP3 I am sending you, that is why.

Peace,

Black Spade aka Stoney Rock”

Not saying dude is lying, because he obviously made the track, but I have yet to see where Charles actually said he produced it. A twitter, interview, album credits, anything of CH actually saying "I made the instrumental to Shininn and no one else"

 

[Kame]

[video=youtube;hiR5CBmK_Wk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiR5CBmK_Wk[/video]

too dope....................

 

[huey]

I'm dissappointed in the way Chucky Ham's career has gone. I had high hopes for that boy when I peeped Brooklyn Girl got on a few countdowns, but it seems like he ain't been doing anything. That class of 09' produced only three dudes that's making noise right now. Cudi, Curren$y and Wale

spitta BEEN in the game homeboy

 

[whatevathehell]

[video=youtube;oDFleahzhiQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDFleahzhiQ[/video]

brooklyn girls is dope^^but I like this beat just as much.

....I forgett, where is that.."Ill hold you tight all through the night" sample from.

 

[ustreet_monsta]

Quality control and over-saturation.

Charles Hamilton has a million mixtapes full of bullshit with some great songs mixed in.

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

Charles could've been up there with them but he does too much stupid shit and is too weird for the general public to fuck with. i use to love CH from mid 08 to early 09, but as time went on, the quality of his music started to dwindle. i can't even listen to his music now.

 

[TRILLip Brooks]

talent and there not meth adicts

 

[kingofharts]

I'm not gonna lie. I remember hearing Well Isn't This Awkward right around the same time as Drake's, J Cole's and Wale's mixtapes and thinking: this joint is just as tight as all the others.

I, too, am disappointed by how things went for CH. However some of it is his own doing. CH is good though.

 

[soul rattler]

What's so hypocritical about the downfall of Charles Hamilton is that he is not the first drug addict, he's not the wierdest individual, and unlike other "superstars", he has talent. Dennis Rodman, Eminem, Nicole Richie, Rihanna, Madonna, etc. alot of talentless or wierd people running around.

 

[soul rattler]

[video=youtube;oDFleahzhiQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDFleahzhiQ[/video]

brooklyn girls is dope^^but I like this beat just as much.

....I forgett, where is that.."Ill hold you tight all through the night" sample from.

"Lovely" by Case.

[video=youtube;Ki1mrk--EGE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki1mrk--EGE[/video]

nh

 

[mindright]

common sense anyone?

 

[idoitforhiphop10]

I'm not gonna lie. I remember hearing Well Isn't This Awkward right around the same time as Drake's, J Cole's and Wale's mixtapes and thinking: this joint is just as tight as all the others.

I, too, am disappointed by how things went for CH. However some of it is his own doing. CH is good though.

c/s..i think if drake didn't come out with so far gone around the same time, he would've blew up off that mixtape. i was bumpin well isn't this awkward more than so far gone at the tim.e