Was Spike Lee Wrong For Making 'Chiraq' A Satire?

[The Lonious Monk]

Bullshit. Everything ain't comedy.

Can we have a satire about ISIS?

How about a satire about the holocaust?

A satire about the San Bernadino shooting?

A satire about your friends and family that died.

A satire about Roman Catholic priests raping boys? A 9/11 satire?

A satire about the white cop that recently got convicted of raping the black women (during the acts of the rapes)?

Is it okay to have a Mike Brown Darren Wilson Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman satire?

A satire on slavery?

Y'all cool with that too if a filmmaker do whatever or is it only all good when it's about blacks doing it to themselves?

Oh wait, media projection of blacks like Birth of a Nation was satire right? How'd that work out in the long run ?

Was with you til the last sentence. Birth of a Nation wasn't satire.

The media projection of blacks in Birth of a Nation was satirical.

Blacks and whites who played blacks (in blackface) projected them as shifty, non serious, buffoons, eyes bugging out with exaggerated behaviors of cowardice, silly people.

It educated whites to the desired end that they needed to tighten up, mobilize (KKK), and protect themselves against us and those who support us from destroying them.

I'm not getting what you're trying to say. Satire involves using humor, generalizations, hyperbole, etc.. to expose foolishness in people, ideas, etc... That's not what they were trying to do. They weren't trying to show that racism against blacks was stupid by using ridiculous depictions of blacks. They were actually trying to sell those ridiculous depictions as being truth. It was racist propaganda not satire.

 

[Karl.]

Spike Lee was wrong for remaking Old Boy.

 

[Karl.]

He was definitely wrong for casting Nick Cannon.

 

[atribecalledgabi]

If aaron mcgruder made it instead of spike yall wouldn't say shit

 

[(Nope)]

I haven't seen it, so I can't speak to the poll. I think Spike's response to criticism could have been more tactful. This movie may not have been made or sold without the name "Chiraq." Granted the name is allegorical and almost arbitrary to the purported purpose of the film, but that's somebodies' home. Spike could have been more responsive to the concerns of the people he's representing--whether this was a marriage of convenience or necessity, their city was used as a prop.

I respect the fact that Spike is still Spike and he didn't make a film that panders to the market, but imbues dialogue, and asks the audience to draw their own conclusions. I personally don't want to see "Straight Outta Englewood." I think a "typical hood-flick" would have been nothing but exploitative and Spike has never made "that" movie. Anyhow, Spike can't police how the audience perceives the film, and if at this point the criticism is invalid, he doesn't need to and shouldn't respond with his own vitriol.

 

[CeLLaR-DooR]

Bullshit. Everything ain't comedy.

Can we have a satire about ISIS?

How about a satire about the holocaust?

A satire about the San Bernadino shooting?

A satire about your friends and family that died.

A satire about Roman Catholic priests raping boys? A 9/11 satire?

A satire about the white cop that recently got convicted of raping the black women (during the acts of the rapes)?

Is it okay to have a Mike Brown Darren Wilson Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman satire?

A satire on slavery?

Y'all cool with that too if a filmmaker do whatever or is it only all good when it's about blacks doing it to themselves?

Oh wait, media projection of blacks like Birth of a Nation was satire right? How'd that work out in the long run ?

Was with you til the last sentence. Birth of a Nation wasn't satire.

The media projection of blacks in Birth of a Nation was satirical.

Blacks and whites who played blacks (in blackface) projected them as shifty, non serious, buffoons, eyes bugging out with exaggerated behaviors of cowardice, silly people.

It educated whites to the desired end that they needed to tighten up, mobilize (KKK), and protect themselves against us and those who support us from destroying them.

Nah shit was satirical it was straight racist propaganda. Big difference

 

[700]

They did a movie with the exact same plot in it in miami years ago

I forgot the name but trina was in it

 

[Splackavelli]

If aaron mcgruder made it instead of spike yall wouldn't say shit

Spike is the new old nigga that young niggas love to hate ever since Cosby's downfall. If!that scandal didn't happen all the hate would still be projected at bill for telling niggas to pull they pants up. That's why they mad at spike because he telling them the same thing with that shot of Nick cannon sagging in the last shot of that trailer. Pull up pants up you lil' slob ass niggas!!!

 

[jono]

The IC's word of the week: satire.

Nobody is sure what it means.

 

[KingFreeman]

If aaron mcgruder made it instead of spike yall wouldn't say shit

Spike is the new old nigga that young niggas love to hate ever since Cosby's downfall. If!that scandal didn't happen all the hate would still be projected at bill for telling niggas to pull they pants up. That's why they mad at spike because he telling them the same thing with that shot of Nick cannon sagging in the last shot of that trailer. Pull up pants up you lil' slob ass niggas!!!

Do you actually believe this?? @"DA_Executionah! "

 

[MARIO_DRO]

Niggas dont understand satire and have not seen the movie.

Jennifer Hudson and Angela Basset give serious dramatic performances, but y'all will never know because it's a 'satire'

Smh

TRUE... BUT THEN U GOT WESLEY SNIPES IN THERE ACTIN A FOOL.. AND THEN THE "HIPHOP, LETS RHYME OUR SENTENCES" BIT.. I JUST DIDNT CARE FOR THE MOVIE..

 

[Brother_Five]

Unfortunately for Spike, he's black so he's expected to operate within a certain box.

 

[Brother_Five]

Niggas dont understand satire and have not seen the movie.

Jennifer Hudson and Angela Basset give serious dramatic performances, but y'all will never know because it's a 'satire'

Smh

TRUE... BUT THEN U GOT WESLEY SNIPES IN THERE ACTIN A FOOL.. AND THEN THE "HIPHOP, LETS RHYME OUR SENTENCES" BIT.. I JUST DIDNT CARE FOR THE MOVIE..

there were some things that i don't think worked... like what u just mentioned. Wesley was wasted and the rhymes didn't work 95% of the time.

 

[playmaker88]

The IC's word of the week: satire.

Nobody is sure what it means.

...they "lowkey" dont know what it means....

nah mean

 

[S2J]

Niggas dont understand satire and have not seen the movie.

Jennifer Hudson and Angela Basset give serious dramatic performances, but y'all will never know because it's a 'satire'

Smh

TRUE... BUT THEN U GOT WESLEY SNIPES IN THERE ACTIN A FOOL.. AND THEN THE "HIPHOP, LETS RHYME OUR SENTENCES" BIT.. I JUST DIDNT CARE FOR THE MOVIE..

Geez. That's not hip hop.

And Wesley Snipes was hilarious, comedic relief.

 

[Splackavelli]

If aaron mcgruder made it instead of spike yall wouldn't say shit

Spike is the new old nigga that young niggas love to hate ever since Cosby's downfall. If!that scandal didn't happen all the hate would still be projected at bill for telling niggas to pull they pants up. That's why they mad at spike because he telling them the same thing with that shot of Nick cannon sagging in the last shot of that trailer. Pull up pants up you lil' slob ass niggas!!!

Do you actually believe this?? @"DA_Executionah! "

Yeah, now pull your pants up boi!

 

[blacktux]

Was a good movie.

People that havent seen it shouldnt speak on it.

Neither should the people pushing drugs and/or violent music promoting the very things this film is against.

I felt the shame and im not involved in any of that.

 

[_God_]

Spike fucked up that's Chicago, this film speaks for every city except nyc, n only thing spike know how to do is speak from the nyc perspective.

Chicago is not as smart as nyc, not as advanced, they don't have the humility of a nyc to pull off a satire that ppl can deal with

 

[The_Jackal]

He can make whatever film he wants to

 

[_God_]

you just cant please niggas

say he had done a documentary...dudes would've still been mad

he just cant win...then again, a lot of these young dudes giving Spike shit probably havent watched any of his early work so it goes over their heads

they want everything to look like a Slim Jesus/ Chief Keef video

None of this applies to me, but who are filmmakers making films for, I understand filmmakers want to get messages across n shit , but what if the consumer either doesn't understand or doesn't agree with the message n movie, that means you have failed as a filmmaker.

Spike failed bc he had the wrong dream