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[StillFaggyAF]

Actually i think its def a reflection of internalized racism.

Our brothers in South Africa were called kaffirs (which has the same connotation as nigger) and they actually banned it, they never tried to identify themselves as kaffirs

South Africa:

Act No. 4 of 2000: Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act.

10. (1) Subject to the proviso in section 12. no person may publish, propagate, advocate or communicate words based on one or more of the prohibited grounds, against any person, that could reasonably be construed to demonstrate a clear intention to -

(a) be hurtful;

(b) be harmful or to incite harm;

(c) promote or propagate hatred.

Not the same bro. The South African word Kafir comes from the arabic word "Kafir" which means infidel or outsider. So when whites in South Africa called blacks "kafir" they were essentially calling them outsiders in their own homeland. A word like that could never be flipped because it represents in it's essence how white people came from Europe, took over and then pushed the native people to the bottom of society.

Like I said, nigger comes from nigre which means Black in latin. Before it was a slur it was a neutral term for Blacks. We also can't ignore connotation. The only reason "nigger" is an insult is because we're told that it is. It'd be different if Black people were walking around calling each other porch monkeys--then I'd see your point about internalized racism.

If its not internalized racism why dont other English speaking people of African descent use it to describe themselves

 

[Stiff]

Actually i think its def a reflection of internalized racism.

Our brothers in South Africa were called kaffirs (which has the same connotation as nigger) and they actually banned it, they never tried to identify themselves as kaffirs

South Africa:

Act No. 4 of 2000: Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act.

10. (1) Subject to the proviso in section 12. no person may publish, propagate, advocate or communicate words based on one or more of the prohibited grounds, against any person, that could reasonably be construed to demonstrate a clear intention to -

(a) be hurtful;

(b) be harmful or to incite harm;

(c) promote or propagate hatred.

Not the same bro. The South African word Kafir comes from the arabic word "Kafir" which means infidel or outsider. So when whites in South Africa called blacks "kafir" they were essentially calling them outsiders in their own homeland. A word like that could never be flipped because it represents in it's essence how white people came from Europe, took over and then pushed the native people to the bottom of society.

Like I said, nigger comes from nigre which means Black in latin. Before it was a slur it was a neutral term for Blacks. We also can't ignore connotation. The only reason "nigger" is an insult is because we're told that it is. It'd be different if Black people were walking around calling each other porch monkeys--then I'd see your point about internalized racism.

If its not internalized racism why dont other English speaking people of African descent use it to describe themselves

Like who? Black Canadians do, Caribbean people that I've met here do

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Actually i think its def a reflection of internalized racism.

Our brothers in South Africa were called kaffirs (which has the same connotation as nigger) and they actually banned it, they never tried to identify themselves as kaffirs

South Africa:

Act No. 4 of 2000: Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act.

10. (1) Subject to the proviso in section 12. no person may publish, propagate, advocate or communicate words based on one or more of the prohibited grounds, against any person, that could reasonably be construed to demonstrate a clear intention to -

(a) be hurtful;

(b) be harmful or to incite harm;

(c) promote or propagate hatred.

Not the same bro. The South African word Kafir comes from the arabic word "Kafir" which means infidel or outsider. So when whites in South Africa called blacks "kafir" they were essentially calling them outsiders in their own homeland. A word like that could never be flipped because it represents in it's essence how white people came from Europe, took over and then pushed the native people to the bottom of society.

Like I said, nigger comes from nigre which means Black in latin. Before it was a slur it was a neutral term for Blacks. We also can't ignore connotation. The only reason "nigger" is an insult is because we're told that it is. It'd be different if Black people were walking around calling each other porch monkeys--then I'd see your point about internalized racism.

If its not internalized racism why dont other English speaking people of African descent use it to describe themselves

Like who? Black Canadians do, Caribbean people that I've met here do

Only the ones obsessed with american culture/hip hop

In the islands they dont use that to describe themselves in English speaking africa they don't use it either

What do you think the difference is?

 

[Stiff]

Actually i think its def a reflection of internalized racism.

Our brothers in South Africa were called kaffirs (which has the same connotation as nigger) and they actually banned it, they never tried to identify themselves as kaffirs

South Africa:

Act No. 4 of 2000: Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act.

10. (1) Subject to the proviso in section 12. no person may publish, propagate, advocate or communicate words based on one or more of the prohibited grounds, against any person, that could reasonably be construed to demonstrate a clear intention to -

(a) be hurtful;

(b) be harmful or to incite harm;

(c) promote or propagate hatred.

Not the same bro. The South African word Kafir comes from the arabic word "Kafir" which means infidel or outsider. So when whites in South Africa called blacks "kafir" they were essentially calling them outsiders in their own homeland. A word like that could never be flipped because it represents in it's essence how white people came from Europe, took over and then pushed the native people to the bottom of society.

Like I said, nigger comes from nigre which means Black in latin. Before it was a slur it was a neutral term for Blacks. We also can't ignore connotation. The only reason "nigger" is an insult is because we're told that it is. It'd be different if Black people were walking around calling each other porch monkeys--then I'd see your point about internalized racism.

If its not internalized racism why dont other English speaking people of African descent use it to describe themselves

Like who? Black Canadians do, Caribbean people that I've met here do

Only the ones obsessed with american culture/hip hop

In the islands they dont use that to describe themselves in English speaking africa they don't use it either

What do you think the difference is?

History and difference in culture. Every English speaking country today besides America was a British colony up into the mid 20th century(with a few exceptions maybe). I could ask you the same question: If it's internalized racism then how come only American Blacks use the term? Blacks worldwide were oppressed under similar conditions. I just think American Blacks reacted differently then Blacks that were under the British sphere of influence, but I don't believe Blacks in America have lower self-esteem than Blacks elsewhere.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Actually i think its def a reflection of internalized racism.

Our brothers in South Africa were called kaffirs (which has the same connotation as nigger) and they actually banned it, they never tried to identify themselves as kaffirs

South Africa:

Act No. 4 of 2000: Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act.

10. (1) Subject to the proviso in section 12. no person may publish, propagate, advocate or communicate words based on one or more of the prohibited grounds, against any person, that could reasonably be construed to demonstrate a clear intention to -

(a) be hurtful;

(b) be harmful or to incite harm;

(c) promote or propagate hatred.

Not the same bro. The South African word Kafir comes from the arabic word "Kafir" which means infidel or outsider. So when whites in South Africa called blacks "kafir" they were essentially calling them outsiders in their own homeland. A word like that could never be flipped because it represents in it's essence how white people came from Europe, took over and then pushed the native people to the bottom of society.

Like I said, nigger comes from nigre which means Black in latin. Before it was a slur it was a neutral term for Blacks. We also can't ignore connotation. The only reason "nigger" is an insult is because we're told that it is. It'd be different if Black people were walking around calling each other porch monkeys--then I'd see your point about internalized racism.

If its not internalized racism why dont other English speaking people of African descent use it to describe themselves

Like who? Black Canadians do, Caribbean people that I've met here do

Only the ones obsessed with american culture/hip hop

In the islands they dont use that to describe themselves in English speaking africa they don't use it either

What do you think the difference is?

History and difference in culture. Every English speaking country today besides America was a British colony up into the mid 20th century(with a few exceptions maybe). I could ask you the same question: If it's internalized racism then how come only American Blacks use the term? Blacks worldwide were oppressed under similar conditions. I just think American Blacks reacted differently then Blacks that were under the British sphere of influence, but I don't believe Blacks in America have lower self-esteem than Blacks elsewhere.

Every nation in the western hemisphere had slavery yet only american blacks use slurs to identify themselves. Nigger is a slur on all English speaking countries.

And honestly do believe that african -americans have more successfully internalized white supremacy than other groups due to differences in the type of slavery in america

 

[Stiff]

Actually i think its def a reflection of internalized racism.

Our brothers in South Africa were called kaffirs (which has the same connotation as nigger) and they actually banned it, they never tried to identify themselves as kaffirs

South Africa:

Act No. 4 of 2000: Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act.

10. (1) Subject to the proviso in section 12. no person may publish, propagate, advocate or communicate words based on one or more of the prohibited grounds, against any person, that could reasonably be construed to demonstrate a clear intention to -

(a) be hurtful;

(b) be harmful or to incite harm;

(c) promote or propagate hatred.

Not the same bro. The South African word Kafir comes from the arabic word "Kafir" which means infidel or outsider. So when whites in South Africa called blacks "kafir" they were essentially calling them outsiders in their own homeland. A word like that could never be flipped because it represents in it's essence how white people came from Europe, took over and then pushed the native people to the bottom of society.

Like I said, nigger comes from nigre which means Black in latin. Before it was a slur it was a neutral term for Blacks. We also can't ignore connotation. The only reason "nigger" is an insult is because we're told that it is. It'd be different if Black people were walking around calling each other porch monkeys--then I'd see your point about internalized racism.

If its not internalized racism why dont other English speaking people of African descent use it to describe themselves

Like who? Black Canadians do, Caribbean people that I've met here do

Only the ones obsessed with american culture/hip hop

In the islands they dont use that to describe themselves in English speaking africa they don't use it either

What do you think the difference is?

History and difference in culture. Every English speaking country today besides America was a British colony up into the mid 20th century(with a few exceptions maybe). I could ask you the same question: If it's internalized racism then how come only American Blacks use the term? Blacks worldwide were oppressed under similar conditions. I just think American Blacks reacted differently then Blacks that were under the British sphere of influence, but I don't believe Blacks in America have lower self-esteem than Blacks elsewhere.

Every nation in the western hemisphere had slavery yet only american blacks use slurs to identify themselves. Nigger is a slur on all English speaking countries.

And honestly do believe that african -americans have more successfully internalized white supremacy than other groups due to differences in the type of slavery in america

If that's the case then why don't blacks call ourselves porch monkeys, jiggaboos, or spades as well?

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Actually i think its def a reflection of internalized racism.

Our brothers in South Africa were called kaffirs (which has the same connotation as nigger) and they actually banned it, they never tried to identify themselves as kaffirs

South Africa:

Act No. 4 of 2000: Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act.

10. (1) Subject to the proviso in section 12. no person may publish, propagate, advocate or communicate words based on one or more of the prohibited grounds, against any person, that could reasonably be construed to demonstrate a clear intention to -

(a) be hurtful;

(b) be harmful or to incite harm;

(c) promote or propagate hatred.

Not the same bro. The South African word Kafir comes from the arabic word "Kafir" which means infidel or outsider. So when whites in South Africa called blacks "kafir" they were essentially calling them outsiders in their own homeland. A word like that could never be flipped because it represents in it's essence how white people came from Europe, took over and then pushed the native people to the bottom of society.

Like I said, nigger comes from nigre which means Black in latin. Before it was a slur it was a neutral term for Blacks. We also can't ignore connotation. The only reason "nigger" is an insult is because we're told that it is. It'd be different if Black people were walking around calling each other porch monkeys--then I'd see your point about internalized racism.

If its not internalized racism why dont other English speaking people of African descent use it to describe themselves

Like who? Black Canadians do, Caribbean people that I've met here do

Only the ones obsessed with american culture/hip hop

In the islands they dont use that to describe themselves in English speaking africa they don't use it either

What do you think the difference is?

History and difference in culture. Every English speaking country today besides America was a British colony up into the mid 20th century(with a few exceptions maybe). I could ask you the same question: If it's internalized racism then how come only American Blacks use the term? Blacks worldwide were oppressed under similar conditions. I just think American Blacks reacted differently then Blacks that were under the British sphere of influence, but I don't believe Blacks in America have lower self-esteem than Blacks elsewhere.

Every nation in the western hemisphere had slavery yet only american blacks use slurs to identify themselves. Nigger is a slur on all English speaking countries.

And honestly do believe that african -americans have more successfully internalized white supremacy than other groups due to differences in the type of slavery in america

If that's the case then why don't blacks call ourselves porch monkeys, jiggaboos, or spades as well?

Those were never as commonplace as nigger, black people do you other racially charged words to insult each other and one of biggest rappers calls himself jigga

sidenote: even in spanish speaking countries they don't use the racial slurs to describe themselves

 

[Stiff]

Actually i think its def a reflection of internalized racism.

Our brothers in South Africa were called kaffirs (which has the same connotation as nigger) and they actually banned it, they never tried to identify themselves as kaffirs

South Africa:

Act No. 4 of 2000: Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act.

10. (1) Subject to the proviso in section 12. no person may publish, propagate, advocate or communicate words based on one or more of the prohibited grounds, against any person, that could reasonably be construed to demonstrate a clear intention to -

(a) be hurtful;

(b) be harmful or to incite harm;

(c) promote or propagate hatred.

Not the same bro. The South African word Kafir comes from the arabic word "Kafir" which means infidel or outsider. So when whites in South Africa called blacks "kafir" they were essentially calling them outsiders in their own homeland. A word like that could never be flipped because it represents in it's essence how white people came from Europe, took over and then pushed the native people to the bottom of society.

Like I said, nigger comes from nigre which means Black in latin. Before it was a slur it was a neutral term for Blacks. We also can't ignore connotation. The only reason "nigger" is an insult is because we're told that it is. It'd be different if Black people were walking around calling each other porch monkeys--then I'd see your point about internalized racism.

If its not internalized racism why dont other English speaking people of African descent use it to describe themselves

Like who? Black Canadians do, Caribbean people that I've met here do

Only the ones obsessed with american culture/hip hop

In the islands they dont use that to describe themselves in English speaking africa they don't use it either

What do you think the difference is?

History and difference in culture. Every English speaking country today besides America was a British colony up into the mid 20th century(with a few exceptions maybe). I could ask you the same question: If it's internalized racism then how come only American Blacks use the term? Blacks worldwide were oppressed under similar conditions. I just think American Blacks reacted differently then Blacks that were under the British sphere of influence, but I don't believe Blacks in America have lower self-esteem than Blacks elsewhere.

Every nation in the western hemisphere had slavery yet only american blacks use slurs to identify themselves. Nigger is a slur on all English speaking countries.

And honestly do believe that african -americans have more successfully internalized white supremacy than other groups due to differences in the type of slavery in america

If that's the case then why don't blacks call ourselves porch monkeys, jiggaboos, or spades as well?

Those were never as commonplace as nigger, black people do you other racially charged words to insult each other and one of biggest rappers calls himself jigga

sidenote: even in spanish speaking countries they don't use the racial slurs to describe themselves

There were plenty of racial slurs that were just as commonplace as nigger for a time, they just didn't endure and fell out of common usage. And when blacks use racially charged terms to insult each other it's usually for sucking up to whites or serving white's interests (sambo, coon).

I don't know the origin of Jay-Z's "Jigga" but I doubt he's saying it to demean himself or black people. And in regards to spanish speaking countries not using the racial slurs, that's my point. Blacks don't use racial slurs to describe themselves either because "nigger" wasn't originally a racial slur, it was just a name to describe any peoples with darker skin.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Actually i think its def a reflection of internalized racism.

Our brothers in South Africa were called kaffirs (which has the same connotation as nigger) and they actually banned it, they never tried to identify themselves as kaffirs

South Africa:

Act No. 4 of 2000: Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act.

10. (1) Subject to the proviso in section 12. no person may publish, propagate, advocate or communicate words based on one or more of the prohibited grounds, against any person, that could reasonably be construed to demonstrate a clear intention to -

(a) be hurtful;

(b) be harmful or to incite harm;

(c) promote or propagate hatred.

Not the same bro. The South African word Kafir comes from the arabic word "Kafir" which means infidel or outsider. So when whites in South Africa called blacks "kafir" they were essentially calling them outsiders in their own homeland. A word like that could never be flipped because it represents in it's essence how white people came from Europe, took over and then pushed the native people to the bottom of society.

Like I said, nigger comes from nigre which means Black in latin. Before it was a slur it was a neutral term for Blacks. We also can't ignore connotation. The only reason "nigger" is an insult is because we're told that it is. It'd be different if Black people were walking around calling each other porch monkeys--then I'd see your point about internalized racism.

If its not internalized racism why dont other English speaking people of African descent use it to describe themselves

Like who? Black Canadians do, Caribbean people that I've met here do

Only the ones obsessed with american culture/hip hop

In the islands they dont use that to describe themselves in English speaking africa they don't use it either

What do you think the difference is?

History and difference in culture. Every English speaking country today besides America was a British colony up into the mid 20th century(with a few exceptions maybe). I could ask you the same question: If it's internalized racism then how come only American Blacks use the term? Blacks worldwide were oppressed under similar conditions. I just think American Blacks reacted differently then Blacks that were under the British sphere of influence, but I don't believe Blacks in America have lower self-esteem than Blacks elsewhere.

Every nation in the western hemisphere had slavery yet only american blacks use slurs to identify themselves. Nigger is a slur on all English speaking countries.

And honestly do believe that african -americans have more successfully internalized white supremacy than other groups due to differences in the type of slavery in america

If that's the case then why don't blacks call ourselves porch monkeys, jiggaboos, or spades as well?

Those were never as commonplace as nigger, black people do you other racially charged words to insult each other and one of biggest rappers calls himself jigga

sidenote: even in spanish speaking countries they don't use the racial slurs to describe themselves

There were plenty of racial slurs that were just as commonplace as nigger for a time, they just didn't endure and fell out of common usage. And when blacks use racially charged terms to insult each other it's usually for sucking up to whites or serving white's interests (sambo, coon).

I don't know the origin of Jay-Z's "Jigga" but I doubt he's saying it to demean himself or black people. And in regards to spanish speaking countries not using the racial slurs, that's my point. Blacks don't use racial slurs to describe themselves either because "nigger" wasn't originally a racial slur, it was just a name to describe any peoples with darker skin.

Would you be offended if someone called you a nigger?

 

[1of1]

Actually i think its def a reflection of internalized racism.

Our brothers in South Africa were called kaffirs (which has the same connotation as nigger) and they actually banned it, they never tried to identify themselves as kaffirs

South Africa:

Act No. 4 of 2000: Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act.

10. (1) Subject to the proviso in section 12. no person may publish, propagate, advocate or communicate words based on one or more of the prohibited grounds, against any person, that could reasonably be construed to demonstrate a clear intention to -

(a) be hurtful;

(b) be harmful or to incite harm;

(c) promote or propagate hatred.

Not the same bro. The South African word Kafir comes from the arabic word "Kafir" which means infidel or outsider. So when whites in South Africa called blacks "kafir" they were essentially calling them outsiders in their own homeland. A word like that could never be flipped because it represents in it's essence how white people came from Europe, took over and then pushed the native people to the bottom of society.

Like I said, nigger comes from nigre which means Black in latin. Before it was a slur it was a neutral term for Blacks. We also can't ignore connotation. The only reason "nigger" is an insult is because we're told that it is. It'd be different if Black people were walking around calling each other porch monkeys--then I'd see your point about internalized racism.

If its not internalized racism why dont other English speaking people of African descent use it to describe themselves

Like who? Black Canadians do, Caribbean people that I've met here do

Only the ones obsessed with american culture/hip hop

In the islands they dont use that to describe themselves in English speaking africa they don't use it either

What do you think the difference is?

History and difference in culture. Every English speaking country today besides America was a British colony up into the mid 20th century(with a few exceptions maybe). I could ask you the same question: If it's internalized racism then how come only American Blacks use the term? Blacks worldwide were oppressed under similar conditions. I just think American Blacks reacted differently then Blacks that were under the British sphere of influence, but I don't believe Blacks in America have lower self-esteem than Blacks elsewhere.

Every nation in the western hemisphere had slavery yet only american blacks use slurs to identify themselves. Nigger is a slur on all English speaking countries.

And honestly do believe that african -americans have more successfully internalized white supremacy than other groups due to differences in the type of slavery in america

If that's the case then why don't blacks call ourselves porch monkeys, jiggaboos, or spades as well?

Those were never as commonplace as nigger, black people do you other racially charged words to insult each other and one of biggest rappers calls himself jigga

sidenote: even in spanish speaking countries they don't use the racial slurs to describe themselves

Jigga is more representative of the era he came up in...the style he entered the game with. "JiggadaJayZ my my partner...G-G-G-Get in the mic..."

It has nothing to do w/ "n****" or "jiggaboo"

 

[Stiff]

Actually i think its def a reflection of internalized racism.

Our brothers in South Africa were called kaffirs (which has the same connotation as nigger) and they actually banned it, they never tried to identify themselves as kaffirs

South Africa:

Act No. 4 of 2000: Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act.

10. (1) Subject to the proviso in section 12. no person may publish, propagate, advocate or communicate words based on one or more of the prohibited grounds, against any person, that could reasonably be construed to demonstrate a clear intention to -

(a) be hurtful;

(b) be harmful or to incite harm;

(c) promote or propagate hatred.

Not the same bro. The South African word Kafir comes from the arabic word "Kafir" which means infidel or outsider. So when whites in South Africa called blacks "kafir" they were essentially calling them outsiders in their own homeland. A word like that could never be flipped because it represents in it's essence how white people came from Europe, took over and then pushed the native people to the bottom of society.

Like I said, nigger comes from nigre which means Black in latin. Before it was a slur it was a neutral term for Blacks. We also can't ignore connotation. The only reason "nigger" is an insult is because we're told that it is. It'd be different if Black people were walking around calling each other porch monkeys--then I'd see your point about internalized racism.

If its not internalized racism why dont other English speaking people of African descent use it to describe themselves

Like who? Black Canadians do, Caribbean people that I've met here do

Only the ones obsessed with american culture/hip hop

In the islands they dont use that to describe themselves in English speaking africa they don't use it either

What do you think the difference is?

History and difference in culture. Every English speaking country today besides America was a British colony up into the mid 20th century(with a few exceptions maybe). I could ask you the same question: If it's internalized racism then how come only American Blacks use the term? Blacks worldwide were oppressed under similar conditions. I just think American Blacks reacted differently then Blacks that were under the British sphere of influence, but I don't believe Blacks in America have lower self-esteem than Blacks elsewhere.

Every nation in the western hemisphere had slavery yet only american blacks use slurs to identify themselves. Nigger is a slur on all English speaking countries.

And honestly do believe that african -americans have more successfully internalized white supremacy than other groups due to differences in the type of slavery in america

If that's the case then why don't blacks call ourselves porch monkeys, jiggaboos, or spades as well?

Those were never as commonplace as nigger, black people do you other racially charged words to insult each other and one of biggest rappers calls himself jigga

sidenote: even in spanish speaking countries they don't use the racial slurs to describe themselves

There were plenty of racial slurs that were just as commonplace as nigger for a time, they just didn't endure and fell out of common usage. And when blacks use racially charged terms to insult each other it's usually for sucking up to whites or serving white's interests (sambo, coon).

I don't know the origin of Jay-Z's "Jigga" but I doubt he's saying it to demean himself or black people. And in regards to spanish speaking countries not using the racial slurs, that's my point. Blacks don't use racial slurs to describe themselves either because "nigger" wasn't originally a racial slur, it was just a name to describe any peoples with darker skin.

Would you be offended if someone called you a nigger?

I'd be offended by anybody calling me anything with the intent to offend/disrespect/demean me. I could be offended if someone called me an apple depending on what they're trying to say.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Actually i think its def a reflection of internalized racism.

Our brothers in South Africa were called kaffirs (which has the same connotation as nigger) and they actually banned it, they never tried to identify themselves as kaffirs

South Africa:

Act No. 4 of 2000: Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act.

10. (1) Subject to the proviso in section 12. no person may publish, propagate, advocate or communicate words based on one or more of the prohibited grounds, against any person, that could reasonably be construed to demonstrate a clear intention to -

(a) be hurtful;

(b) be harmful or to incite harm;

(c) promote or propagate hatred.

Not the same bro. The South African word Kafir comes from the arabic word "Kafir" which means infidel or outsider. So when whites in South Africa called blacks "kafir" they were essentially calling them outsiders in their own homeland. A word like that could never be flipped because it represents in it's essence how white people came from Europe, took over and then pushed the native people to the bottom of society.

Like I said, nigger comes from nigre which means Black in latin. Before it was a slur it was a neutral term for Blacks. We also can't ignore connotation. The only reason "nigger" is an insult is because we're told that it is. It'd be different if Black people were walking around calling each other porch monkeys--then I'd see your point about internalized racism.

If its not internalized racism why dont other English speaking people of African descent use it to describe themselves

Like who? Black Canadians do, Caribbean people that I've met here do

Only the ones obsessed with american culture/hip hop

In the islands they dont use that to describe themselves in English speaking africa they don't use it either

What do you think the difference is?

History and difference in culture. Every English speaking country today besides America was a British colony up into the mid 20th century(with a few exceptions maybe). I could ask you the same question: If it's internalized racism then how come only American Blacks use the term? Blacks worldwide were oppressed under similar conditions. I just think American Blacks reacted differently then Blacks that were under the British sphere of influence, but I don't believe Blacks in America have lower self-esteem than Blacks elsewhere.

Every nation in the western hemisphere had slavery yet only american blacks use slurs to identify themselves. Nigger is a slur on all English speaking countries.

And honestly do believe that african -americans have more successfully internalized white supremacy than other groups due to differences in the type of slavery in america

If that's the case then why don't blacks call ourselves porch monkeys, jiggaboos, or spades as well?

Those were never as commonplace as nigger, black people do you other racially charged words to insult each other and one of biggest rappers calls himself jigga

sidenote: even in spanish speaking countries they don't use the racial slurs to describe themselves

There were plenty of racial slurs that were just as commonplace as nigger for a time, they just didn't endure and fell out of common usage. And when blacks use racially charged terms to insult each other it's usually for sucking up to whites or serving white's interests (sambo, coon).

I don't know the origin of Jay-Z's "Jigga" but I doubt he's saying it to demean himself or black people. And in regards to spanish speaking countries not using the racial slurs, that's my point. Blacks don't use racial slurs to describe themselves either because "nigger" wasn't originally a racial slur, it was just a name to describe any peoples with darker skin.

Would you be offended if someone called you a nigger?

I'd be offended by anybody calling me anything with the intent to offend/disrespect/demean me. I could be offended if someone called me an apple depending on what they're trying to say.

What about the use of a commonly used slur in a positive way?

 

[Stiff]

Actually i think its def a reflection of internalized racism.

Our brothers in South Africa were called kaffirs (which has the same connotation as nigger) and they actually banned it, they never tried to identify themselves as kaffirs

South Africa:

Act No. 4 of 2000: Promotion of Equality and Prevention of Unfair Discrimination Act.

10. (1) Subject to the proviso in section 12. no person may publish, propagate, advocate or communicate words based on one or more of the prohibited grounds, against any person, that could reasonably be construed to demonstrate a clear intention to -

(a) be hurtful;

(b) be harmful or to incite harm;

(c) promote or propagate hatred.

Not the same bro. The South African word Kafir comes from the arabic word "Kafir" which means infidel or outsider. So when whites in South Africa called blacks "kafir" they were essentially calling them outsiders in their own homeland. A word like that could never be flipped because it represents in it's essence how white people came from Europe, took over and then pushed the native people to the bottom of society.

Like I said, nigger comes from nigre which means Black in latin. Before it was a slur it was a neutral term for Blacks. We also can't ignore connotation. The only reason "nigger" is an insult is because we're told that it is. It'd be different if Black people were walking around calling each other porch monkeys--then I'd see your point about internalized racism.

If its not internalized racism why dont other English speaking people of African descent use it to describe themselves

Like who? Black Canadians do, Caribbean people that I've met here do

Only the ones obsessed with american culture/hip hop

In the islands they dont use that to describe themselves in English speaking africa they don't use it either

What do you think the difference is?

History and difference in culture. Every English speaking country today besides America was a British colony up into the mid 20th century(with a few exceptions maybe). I could ask you the same question: If it's internalized racism then how come only American Blacks use the term? Blacks worldwide were oppressed under similar conditions. I just think American Blacks reacted differently then Blacks that were under the British sphere of influence, but I don't believe Blacks in America have lower self-esteem than Blacks elsewhere.

Every nation in the western hemisphere had slavery yet only american blacks use slurs to identify themselves. Nigger is a slur on all English speaking countries.

And honestly do believe that african -americans have more successfully internalized white supremacy than other groups due to differences in the type of slavery in america

If that's the case then why don't blacks call ourselves porch monkeys, jiggaboos, or spades as well?

Those were never as commonplace as nigger, black people do you other racially charged words to insult each other and one of biggest rappers calls himself jigga

sidenote: even in spanish speaking countries they don't use the racial slurs to describe themselves

There were plenty of racial slurs that were just as commonplace as nigger for a time, they just didn't endure and fell out of common usage. And when blacks use racially charged terms to insult each other it's usually for sucking up to whites or serving white's interests (sambo, coon).

I don't know the origin of Jay-Z's "Jigga" but I doubt he's saying it to demean himself or black people. And in regards to spanish speaking countries not using the racial slurs, that's my point. Blacks don't use racial slurs to describe themselves either because "nigger" wasn't originally a racial slur, it was just a name to describe any peoples with darker skin.

Would you be offended if someone called you a nigger?

I'd be offended by anybody calling me anything with the intent to offend/disrespect/demean me. I could be offended if someone called me an apple depending on what they're trying to say.

What about the use of a commonly used slur in a positive way?

If I'm part of a social group that has collectively decided that a word has a different meaning than when that same word is used by another group then that's just what it is. Words by themselves are useless; it's about the meaning. Hypothetically speaking, if we've decided in our group that when they use it the word is a slur, but when we say it it means "king" then I'll be offended when they say it and honored when we say it.

 

[DarcSkies]

YOu dont call older people nigga out of respect. They dont really understand why we'd say it to each other. Its about context.

 

[SneakDZA]

this guy is really in here arguing that nigger isn't an offensive word and it just means "black"?

sounds like a prime candidate for the pseudo-intellectual thread.

 

[kingblaze84]

I've said it once and I'll say it again, it's time we Black people use the word LESS. I understand the word is gonna slip out some days and maybe even a lot but we should ALL, people of all races, use the word less from this point on. I think way too many of us are overusing the word. Let's all make this effort.

 

[jono]

this guy is really in here arguing that nigger isn't an offensive word and it just means "black"?

sounds like a prime candidate for the pseudo-intellectual thread.

Not entirely. He's arguing that the word's original meaning was neutral and the derivative terms are negative mostly through context and not the word itself.

 

[Turfaholic]

I've said it once and I'll say it again, it's time we Black people use the word LESS. I understand the word is gonna slip out some days and maybe even a lot but we should ALL, people of all races, use the word less from this point on. I think way too many of us are overusing the word. Let's all make this effort.

Shut up nigga

 

[jono]

I've said it once and I'll say it again, it's time we Black people use the word LESS. I understand the word is gonna slip out some days and maybe even a lot but we should ALL, people of all races, use the word less from this point on. I think way too many of us are overusing the word. Let's all make this effort.

Why?

 

[Stiff]

this guy is really in here arguing that nigger isn't an offensive word and it just means "black"?

sounds like a prime candidate for the pseudo-intellectual thread.

Not entirely. He's arguing that the word's original meaning was neutral and the derivative terms are negative mostly through context and not the word itself.

Exactly.