USC Student Says She Was Raped, The Nightclub Video Determined That Was A Lie

[The Lonious Monk]

and the MRA act and some posters act as though false accusations are widespread, omnipresent thing no one cares about

which is false

there has, is been a push to take all claims of sexual offences as face value and operate on the assumption that they are true because there is evidence that we as a society including law enforcement have failed alleged victims

a lot of this, unfortunately, is just chickens coming home to roost

Again, rape is a hard crime to prosecute. Law enforcement probably has done a poor job handling it over the years, but even if they did their job right, it would still be hard to get those cases right.

Feminists like acting like rapes go unpunished because no one gives a fuck. That's not really true though. Rapes largely go unpunished because someone accusing someone else of something is typically not enough to erode all reasonable doubt.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

and the MRA act and some posters act as though false accusations are widespread, omnipresent thing no one cares about

which is false

there has, is been a push to take all claims of sexual offences as face value and operate on the assumption that they are true because there is evidence that we as a society including law enforcement have failed alleged victims

a lot of this, unfortunately, is just chickens coming home to roost

Again, rape is a hard crime to prosecute. Law enforcement probably has done a poor job handling it over the years, but even if they did their job right, it would still be hard to get those cases right.

Feminists like acting like rapes go unpunished because no one gives a fuck. That's not really true though. Rapes largely go unpunished because someone accusing someone else of something is typically not enough to erode all reasonable doubt.

bruh

i'm mainly referring to victim blaming

bad policy...i.e. accuser not being notified of when the rape kit is being destroyed

law enforcement not doing their jobs...cases where the police don't even bother to speak with the accused or classifying the claim as unfounded within hours of the report

according to the DOJ these infractions are common in places like baltimore

you think it only happens there?

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

I don't see how this proves she lied about rape. This is the judges opinion based on events from a different time of the night.

I'm assuming she accused him of rape, said she was too drunk to consent, but the video shows not only did that she initiated the encounter (pulling him out of the bar and everywhere else), with a predetermined motive to have sex with him (the sex gesture to her friend), couldn't be too drunk (signing him into the building), etc...

She wanted it to be one way... but the video showed it to be the other way.

The video doesn't contradict lack of consent. Even if she led him to her room it still doesn't equal consent.

Her statement wasn't just lack of consent though. Her statement was that she didn't remember what happened and thus she didn't consent. That's not even a logically sound statement. The guy she accused said from the start that she was the initiator of the sex, so the consent was implicit. The video doesn't show them commencing with the sex, but it does show that she was the one initiating and is more supportive of the accused than the accuser.

Of course the ruling is based on the judge's opinion. All rulings are based on the judge's opinion.

This hurts her claim

The video isnt then enough to conclude she is lying without a doubt though

Otherwise lying about rape is and should be a punishable crime that could warrant jail/prison time

Lying about rape hardly is punishable and when a lying cunt is charged it's for wasting police resources or obstruction or some other misdemeanor offense.

when law enforcement agencies learn of false police reports, they usually charge the person making the report with a crime or false reporting or false swearing, depending on how the laws ....prosecution can result in a misdemeanor or felony conviction, again depending on the applicable laws and the nature of the false report

so what changes do you want to see? just harsher penalties?

because an allegation of rape is a very serious issue, i believe unfounded charges need to be publicized just as much as convictions and criminal charges pursued against anyone who is found to have knowingly made a false statement

and before you start "... our unwillingness to name victims, while at the same time being willing to name the accused is ... " as i've repeatedly mentioned this is not a matter of law, but rather a convention that the media adheres to. the "rape shield" laws cover what can be admitted in court, not what can be published in the press. the press has collectively decided that it is ethical to publish the name of the accused (as long as they use "alleged") but unethical to publish the names of the accusers in these cases

that said, not all reports classified as unfounded means that the accuser lied..

false rape claim are rarely pursued and or successfully persecuted because of by their very nature they are often difficult to positively show as false....usually we have a reasonable suspicion but not the strong evidence to show it was false

and there is evidence that law enforcement do little to address reports of sexual assault, rape

there have been cases where rape kits were destroyed for no good reason; police didn't bother to talk to the accused; and cases where the case was marked as "unfounded" within hours of talking with the accuser
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...bs-md-rape-investigations-20161203-story.html
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/baltimore-doj-report-sexual-assault/

this shit doesn't just happen in maryland, it happens everywhere

here in michigan we had thousands and thousands of rape kits that have gone untested

we got cases were a person admits to rape but only gets a slap on the wrist

we are still far from the day when every woman who makes a rape accusation gets a proper police investigation and a fair hearing

so this idea that the system coddles women.... and that there are thousands and thousands of women who are working the system to their advantage is largely unfounded and i argue is bullshit

conversely the idea that any level of intoxication renders consent invalid, as many college campus programs are teaching today is problematic. though it is also good to also note this is far from the legal standard for incapacitation required in a criminal finding of sexual assault

and let's talk about the MRA and what they did was take the low bar for rape set in an attempt to address date rape and leap over it. by redefining what is means to be raped by conflating rape down to mean every bad sexual experience and then claim men are equally victimized by it

it's a lot of hypocrisy to go around...and you nigga are no better than the feminist you claim to hate lol

Let me sum up your post

'Jake shot a black man'

'But what about black on black crime ?'

your vision is blurred. You keep on picking side whereas most of the male posters advocating for a CONCENSUS. Its not about the gender of the liar its about SOCIAL RELATIONS. There are no social benefits to this fuckery on both sides. RAPISTS AND THOSE WHO LIE ABOUT IT NEED TO BE OUTCAST.

None of them are doing something good to our society. The repercussions of rape are felt on a social scale.

The consequences are a DEHUMANIZED SOCIETY. The trust flame is fading away. To the benefits of

Virtual reality

Sexbots

There is no logic in protecting LIARS. I cant trust a system who protect liars. And as a man if the system protects females when they lie blatantly about rape then i wont approach them in normal public space.

I wont have my name on the news for having DRUNKEN SEX WITH A WILLING DRUNK WOMAN.

Std risks

Unwanted pregnancy risk, plus in that case THE FEMALE HAS 100% OF THE ABORTION DECISION AKA CHILD SUPPORT.

FALSE RAPE ACCUSATION WITHOUT A DAMN REPERCUSSION

For which reward? 5mn of sexual pleasure.

my vision is blurred? lol

no...

in all seriousness

i'm speaking of the hypocrisy on both sides of the aisle

and how this need to demonize each other, both sides have failed to acknowledge the ways in which the system has failed both the accused and accusers

yes, lying is bad and the consequences should be fitting of the crime...i have said as much multiple times

but false rape claims are rarely pursued and or successfully persecuted because of by their very nature they are often difficult to positively show as false...same as rape claims

it's not because "the system protects females when they lie blatantly about rape ".... you are either over simplifying the matter, ignorant and or being antagonistic

i could very well say "the system is deliberately aiding accusers" because in some places the accuser has to help pay for the kit....or because rape kits systemically go untested and or destroyed.... but that would be dismissing the very legitimate concerns you and others have raised

 

[anduin]

Thanks to these liars they will put even more CAMERAS.

Liars destroy societal trust, and force society to HAVE AN EYE ON EVERY MOVE.

Everything related to intimacy will be eventually recorded. Imagine your life destroyed because somebody lied about an intimate moment...

Thats how im gonna sell the sex tape with my woman.

"Baby I gotta have proof you gave consent, you crazy bitch you"

 

[MR.CJ]

She don't want to be a thot so she claimed rape